IronWolfSaber found this video, explains everything for "why those who say tanks are not OP"

Nice find Saber, golden.

PROOF

http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/perfect-imbalance

TLDR? Skip to 5:27

Did you watch to the end?
I won't quote, but it goes along the lines of: If people are asking for a different nerf later, then it was never OP...
The thing is, people have been asking for nerfs to HAVs since this build started, which means it is, in fact, OP.

The other day I watched a team of 12 heavies with swarm launchers try to destroy one tank manned by one man. They couldn't even break his shields, even when the majority of the 12 heavies hit the tank at the same time. The tank driver went 25 and 0 that map, and his team won. I feel like I'm beating a dead horse about the tanks being OP, but just thought I'd give my useless two bits on the subject. Other vehicles are nice and balanced, though, really like the implementation of the air vehicles, works great when you have a half decent pilot.

my tank can dodge swarms and forge guns wont hit me more then twice when I pass to one shot any poor infantry guy that dares to come in my line of sight. 2 seconds later I am out of sight and you cant hit me anymore while you barely scratched my shield. 10 seconds later I crossed the map with the tanks super fast speed, recovered the shield hp I lost and pass you again as you spawn just to one shot you again. oh and my tank has 15k effective shield hp. if you never stop with the tank and only kill stuff while you pass it then your tank will never die and the best is, you can dodge swarms like a ninja because the rockets will hit the ground and obstacles

yeah it is not broken in any form, cool story

Did you watch to the end?
I won't quote, but it goes along the lines of: If people are asking for a different nerf later, then it was never OP...
The thing is, people have been asking for nerfs to HAVs since this build started, which means it is, in fact, OP.

Tank isnt OP against 12 morons who are dumb as a lamp post

Go kill pedobear snake. I havent seen you doing naff all as AV. You didn't even take AV grenades until I told you that you sucked for it. Now you have a tank, you are backing them as not OP. Weird how tankers don't see them as Op. Same people saying "you can always avoid being redlined, it's your fault for playing badly." (dumbarses then rage quit when the reverse happens).
People do talk a lot of twaddle.

@Op
What about when the best anti vehicle weapon is mounted in a vehicle? (large railgun). That kinda skews it chronically.

THIS. Everyone who has an opinion about tanks SHOULD watch this.


Weapon A is the Assault Rifle
Weapon B is the Tank
Weapon C is Anti-Vehicle


Discuss.

I believe I've already personally taken out EnglishSnake's tank a few times. He can claim they aren't OP because he does lose them. Losing them means people are countering them well. At least in his case.

Uh-huh. Keep telling yourself that snake. At 16mil or so SP you couldn't scratch a tank. I just say it how it is. So go ahead and justify the 1.5 damage mod which allows you to kill heavies MUCH faster than they'll ever kill you. Except for shooting the MCC or another HAV it's insane.

Uh-huh. Keep telling yourself that snake. At 16mil or so SP you couldn't scratch a tank. I just say it how it is. So go ahead and justify the 1.5 damage mod which allows you to kill heavies MUCH faster than they'll ever kill you. Except for shooting the MCC or another HAV it's insane.

1. Wait for bigger maps (Precursor build).
2. Wait for the vehicle spam mode to be taken out (Precursor build).
3. I only have about 8M SP and I hunt down top tier tanks. It can be done and is being done by many.

I do agree with you that tanks in Dust are much stronger than they are in most FPS's. I don't agree with you that it's wrong.
The reason I came to Dust and have been excited about it since early 2010 was for the complex mechanics and realism CCP do so well. It's not for everyone (yet. They'll learn), I agree. But it is very good for those who want it. And they are growing in numbers.

Forgegun > Dropship

Has anyone realised the game will turn into Tanks & Heavy suits with forge & SMG? That IT. No scouts (why bother, I don't get scouts even now) and maybe a couple of Logi's/Assaults for equipment. I don't really see EWAR changing that...

The problem I have is getting nubs to get in my damn drop ship quickly before I get shot out of the sky. Then getting gunners to target the vehicles is another thing altogether. I have to look where the damn guns are pointed and make sure the tanks are pointed right in their line of sight so they start to target them, usually at this point I get shot out of the sky by the AV crews. 21st should fix most of my issues by allowing groups.

Doesn't matter about speed grit. Once these guys put a HAV with 2 heavies at each objective, you'll never shift them. And there's the 4th one roaming, breaking up your groups ect. I can't see anything that'd change this.

I randomly group up a match with players equipped with Swarm Launchers, and not a single would dare to use any kind of vehicle because they'll get destroyed.

Tank isnt OP against 12 morons who are dumb as a lamp post

I think that tactic is very static. It would be easy to counter with a very dynamic team and hit-and-run attacks.

Forgegus do more than rails. Until you add the marauder 1.5 damage mod which lets me 1hit kill most assault and all scouts with splash damage, and 1 hit kill any heavy. KILLING TANKS ISN'T HARD. It's not being killed 10 times before you do it.
Cba to reply snake. 16mil with no AV is a bad build. You know it as well as I do, you just don't want to give a monkeys and soun cool on the forums. Gz.

You'll notice I'm not saying Nerf them. Just that we should recognise how devastating they are. Nerfs after black ops invisi-tank.

Hell, the lamp posts in this game are serious killers!

THIS. Everyone who has an opinion about tanks SHOULD watch this.


Weapon A is the Assault Rifle
Weapon B is the Tank
Weapon C is Anti-Vehicle


Discuss.

Did you watch to the end?
I won't quote, but it goes along the lines of: If people are asking for a different nerf later, then it was never OP...
The thing is, people have been asking for nerfs to HAVs since this build started, which means it is, in fact, OP.

Imho, AV's should be heavies, not simply because AV weapons themselves should be heavy, but also because then you would be able to close the circle. A > B > C > A...

The cirlce isnt designed to be closed.

Has anyone realised the game will turn into Tanks & Heavy suits with forge & SMG? That IT. No scouts (why bother, I don't get scouts even now) and maybe a couple of Logi's/Assaults for equipment. I don't really see EWAR changing that...

Imho, AV's should be heavies, not simply because AV weapons themselves should be heavy, but also because then you would be able to close the circle. A > B > C > A...

Well Swarm Launchers are great on scouts, and Forge Guns ARE heavies, and both are killable pretty easily by other ground combat infantry. i'm not sure how FG Heavies go against AR Assault, but AR Assault devastate Scouts if they can get first fire on them.

Tank isnt OP against 12 morons who are dumb as a lamp post