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Veigar Mordekaiser Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 676	Posted - 2012.08.02 03:11:00 - [61] - Quote I'm so confused, how did this go from a discussion regarding in game weapons, to an information war about real life ballistics? o.o All I did was make a comparison, I seem to have started a war.
vermacht Doe 93	Posted - 2012.08.02 03:11:00 - [62] - Quote Which d eagle did you get. The standard or long barrel
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.08.02 03:13:00 - [63] - Quote Tbone322 wrote: Lurchasaurus wrote: vermacht Doe wrote: Kira Lannister wrote: Silly Rabbit Wikipedia is edited by kids! I cross reference with more trusted sites i fire the guns. Have you fired a PS90? I'm thinking of picking one up after I finish my AR15 build i'm currently working on. meh....ammo is scarce and its kinda a gimmick....i have had more fun shooting .223. again, finding 5.7 is kinda hard im more of a rifle guy myself tho so dont let me dissuade you. Its a sleek gun and its fun to shoot something so compact for a change. edit: if your looking at something for after your AR, take a look at H&K.....great stuff there if you havent already set your sights on a p90
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.08.02 03:17:00 - [64] - Quote vermacht Doe wrote: Which d eagle did you get. The standard or long barrel I have a real desert eagle, its an imported IMI .41/.44 from back when they still exported the guns and you didnt have to get an American copy. believe its a 6 in. but i could be wrong, dont know off the top of my head
Tbone322 D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 124	Posted - 2012.08.02 03:19:00 - [65] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: Tbone322 wrote: Lurchasaurus wrote: vermacht Doe wrote: Kira Lannister wrote: Silly Rabbit Wikipedia is edited by kids! I cross reference with more trusted sites i fire the guns. Have you fired a PS90? I'm thinking of picking one up after I finish my AR15 build i'm currently working on. meh....ammo is scarce and its kinda a gimmick....i have had more fun shooting .223. again, finding 5.7 is kinda hard im more of a rifle guy myself tho so dont let me dissuade you. Its a sleek gun and its fun to shoot something so compact for a change. edit: if your looking at something for after your AR, take a look at H&K.....great stuff there if you havent already set your sights on a p90 My cousins's a H&K guy so i may have to look at some of their stuff, I do know it's pretty pricey though... Sorry for hijacking the thread, so back on topic. The forge gunner in me really thinks I need that SMG to stay alive, but the dropship pilot in me would really like to see all those pesky swarm launcher's have to carry a pistol to sacrifice for the ability to blow me up. Either way I'm fine but I think i'm leaning towards keeping it as a sidearm.
vermacht Doe 93	Posted - 2012.08.02 03:20:00 - [66] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: vermacht Doe wrote: Which d eagle did you get. The standard or long barrel I have a real desert eagle, its an imported IMI .41/.44 from back when they still exported the guns and you didnt have to get an American copy. believe its a 6 in. but i could be wrong, dont know off the top of my head It might be 7 in. Like the American copy but i don't know for sure
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.08.02 03:22:00 - [67] - Quote vermacht Doe wrote: Lurchasaurus wrote: vermacht Doe wrote: Which d eagle did you get. The standard or long barrel I have a real desert eagle, its an imported IMI .41/.44 from back when they still exported the guns and you didnt have to get an American copy. believe its a 6 in. but i could be wrong, dont know off the top of my head It might be 7 in. Like the American copy but i don't know for sure lol they dont make a 7 in. my gun is an IMI from like the 70's. the gun statred being made in the US in 95, then briefly ent back to israel under IWI a couple years later. Now its back in the US tho.
vermacht Doe 93	Posted - 2012.08.02 03:26:00 - [68] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: vermacht Doe wrote: Lurchasaurus wrote: vermacht Doe wrote: Which d eagle did you get. The standard or long barrel I have a real desert eagle, its an imported IMI .41/.44 from back when they still exported the guns and you didnt have to get an American copy. believe its a 6 in. but i could be wrong, dont know off the top of my head It might be 7 in. Like the American copy but i don't know for sure lol they dont make a 7 in. my gun is an IMI from like the 70's. the gun statred being made in the US in 95, then briefly ent back to israel under IWI a couple years later. Now its back in the US tho. I wasn't sure but i know they make a standard(6in.) And a long barrel (10in.)
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.08.02 03:29:00 - [69] - Quote vermacht Doe wrote: I wasn't sure but i know they make a standard(6in.) And a long barrel (10in.) they make a bunch of different variants now, and they arent all in large calibers. it a fun gun tho.
Regis Mark V 249	Posted - 2012.08.02 03:29:00 - [70] - Quote If SMG's go into the main slot then snipers are ****** in CQC. Making SMG a secondary is good but maybe it should only be for scouts. Or make semi and full auto pistols. That's the only way putting the SMG in the primary only spot reasonable!

Veigar Mordekaiser Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 676	Posted - 2012.08.02 03:31:00 - [71] - Quote Regis Mark V wrote: If SMG's go into the main slot then snipers are ****** in CQC. Making SMG a secondary is good but maybe it should only be for scouts. Or make semi and full auto pistols. That's the only way putting the SMG in the primary only spot reasonable! Or, make variants for the primary slot? It's not like you can't have one without the other..
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.08.02 03:32:00 - [72] - Quote Regis Mark V wrote: If SMG's go into the main slot then snipers are ****** in CQC. Making SMG a secondary is good but maybe it should only be for scouts. Or make semi and full auto pistols. That's the only way putting the SMG in the primary only spot reasonable! bottom line, smg is a secondary for a reason.
Arceus Evoxazon Hikahotaru 119	Posted - 2012.08.02 03:48:00 - [73] - Quote My name is Arceus Evoxazon and this is my favorite thread on the Dust Forum. This time, I mean it.
Ten-Sidhe Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 414	Posted - 2012.08.02 04:07:00 - [74] - Quote p90 is a pdw(personal defense weapon), similar to smg but not the same. smg(mac10, mp-5) fire pistol ammo, 9x19mm or .45 for example pdw(p90, mp7) fire miniture rifle ammo,designed for pdw, 4.6x30mm or 5.7x28mm for example assault rifle(ak-47,m-16) fire reduced power rifle rounds, 7.62x39mm or 5.62x45mm for example battle rifle(m-14,m-1)(and many designated marksmen) fire full power rifle, 7.62x51mm or 7.62x54mm for example
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.08.02 04:09:00 - [75] - Quote Ten-Sidhe wrote: p90 is a pdw(personal defense weapon), similar to smg but not the same. smg(mac10, mp-5) fire pistol ammo, 9x19mm or .45 for example pdw(p90, mp7) fire miniture rifle ammo,designed for pdw, 4.6x30mm or 5.7x28mm for example assault rifle(ak-47,m-16) fire reduced power rifle rounds, 7.62x39mm or 5.62x45mm for example battle rifle(m-14,m-1)(and many designated marksmen) fire full power rifle, 7.62x51mm or 7.62x54mm for example i know? was there a point there? edit: cause if so, id love to talk about it
vermacht Doe 93	Posted - 2012.08.02 04:10:00 - [76] - Quote Pdw are compact rifles (pdw r) smgs are any automatic pistol caliber weapon
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.08.02 04:17:00 - [77] - Quote vermacht Doe wrote: Pdw are compact rifles (pdw r) smgs are any automatic pistol caliber weapon lol sorry dude.....a pdw is a pdw......compact rifles are called carbines......
vermacht Doe 93	Posted - 2012.08.02 04:33:00 - [78] - Quote My mistake i saw pdws as carbines with even shorter barrels
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.08.02 04:38:00 - [79] - Quote pretty much in simple, generalized not too picky terms: battle rifle - high powered rifle round assault rifle - rifle rounds (ak rounds or .223) carbine - just a shorter version of the same rifle, meant originally for calvary use, but then moved to any kind of non infantry stuffs like naval use smg - pistol rounds pdw - pistol round sized rifle rounds(new era hybrid round bullshit)
Sandromin Hes Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. 204	Posted - 2012.08.06 20:33:00 - [80] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: well, the only thing i saw was you saying the FN 5.7x28mm having less stopping power than 9mm...while it does have a little less actual force, and by that i mean a minimal amount, the p90 cartridge is basically a rifle round, not a pistol round. The terminal ballistics because of that make it a superior cartridge and id say the increased penetration make it have more stopping power..... was being really picky after seeing the idiots above you. edit: ESPECIALLY after seeing the guy say a single 9mm round would penetrate and kill multiple bodies in one shot....... I meant unarmored, sorry for the confusion. Yeah, the 9mm is useless against body armor because its impact is simply too small to penetrate body armor. It can however penetrate non-armored objects, which isn't optimal for some jobs; for example, Delta Force rejected the 9mm (which was in current use) because on something like an airplane during a hostage crisis, it could possibly go through the enemy and hit a civilian, thus they chose the .45 round (the grease gun and the m1911) because its stopping power was higher, and its velocity was slower (thus being safer in a CQ hostage crisis). Anyways, I forgot what the original argument was, probably something petty (I think it was mac10 is better than p90 that guy said? I might have misquoted too. Meh, it barely matters. Mac10 is by far inferior to the P90 and M1928 Thompson was all I was trying to say.)... Also, never played CoD so I actually have no clue what the guns, much less the stats, are. Sorry for misunderstandings.

Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 256	Posted - 2012.08.06 20:44:00 - [81] - Quote vermacht Doe wrote: Exactly what shotgun is a ohk against an equal tier armour Allotek Breach. When placed right, I can OHK a proto assault. Proto heavy requires 2 shots. SMG is fine. It's niche is in CQC, outside of that and the SMG effectiveness drops pretty quick.
Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2012.08.06 21:02:00 - [82] - Quote Lol yea lets do it. This would be the single greatest buff to my scout suit
Finn Kempers BetaMax. 222	Posted - 2012.08.06 22:11:00 - [83] - Quote My sniper build would be screwed if so because CQC with snipers leads to the quickest discussion with down below. In other words no. Or you can use single/burstfire pistols, though the burst fire ones are pants.


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