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Posted - 2012.08.01 05:31:00 -
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Posted - 2012.08.02 02:39:00 -
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Sandromin Hes wrote:That guy wrote:
Wikipedia can tell you how wrong you are. The thompson is an smg and the mac fires a larger round. Did you use cod stats for
research?
P90 has a higher velocity, due to the 9mm round and longer barrel. And you're an idiot. He was comparing Mac and P90. Thompson uses a .45 round, which is larger than a 9mm. You had no thoughts flowing, and your argument is invalid. Your invalidity is bad and you should feel bad. .45 round fires much slower than a 9mm, so it only hits with a thud, like a punch. The 9mm on the other hand fires at a much higher velocity, and can penetrate through multiple objects, so you could kill multiple people with one shot. The mac fires a 9mm, the P90 fires a 9mm, and the Thompson fires a .45 ACP. The biggest round has a different purpose. Shut up and take your invalidity elsewhere. Do your research next time, m'kay?
sigh......first of all, you just flamed him when you were just as bad....
9mm parabellum isnt penetrating multiple layers of anything..... in fact there are problems with a 9mm cause it is too weak and takes multiple shots to kill sometimes...
.45 ACP hits much harder than 9mm, and even though it has a slower velocity, it is in every way a superior round, except for recoil.
the P90 basically fires a special high velocity 9mm round (well basically an armor piercing 9mm round), very different from 9mm parabellum. actual size is 5.7x28mm
i speak from actual experience with these rounds and not from the stats page of COD or BF.
edit: to the above post, the FN 5.7x28mm round for the FN P90 actually was made for the purpose of being better than the 9mm parabellum. Better terminal ballistics for piercing body armor and certainly isnt any less lethal... |
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Posted - 2012.08.02 02:46:00 -
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no use of wikipedia here... |
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Posted - 2012.08.02 02:50:00 -
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well, the only thing i saw was you saying the FN 5.7x28mm having less stopping power than 9mm...while it does have a little less actual force, and by that i mean a minimal amount, the p90 cartridge is basically a rifle round, not a pistol round. The terminal ballistics because of that make it a superior cartridge and id say the increased penetration make it have more stopping power.....
was being really picky after seeing the idiots above you.
edit: ESPECIALLY after seeing the guy say a single 9mm round would penetrate and kill multiple bodies in one shot....... |
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Posted - 2012.08.02 02:53:00 -
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vermacht Doe wrote:Kira Lannister wrote:Silly Rabbit Wikipedia is edited by kids! I cross reference with more trusted sites
i fire the guns. |
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Posted - 2012.08.02 02:58:00 -
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vermacht Doe wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:well, the only thing i saw was you saying the FN 5.7x28mm having less stopping power than 9mm...while it does have a little less actual force, and by that i mean a minimal amount, the p90 cartridge is basically a rifle round, not a pistol round. The terminal ballistics because of that make it a superior cartridge and id say the increased penetration make it have more stopping power.....
was being really picky after seeing the idiots above you. Against unarmoured targets the 9m is superior because of it's larger cavitation but it is near useless against most body armor. Anyways thanks for backing me up and what is your psn name?
 PSN: Lurchasaurus
its secret, no one can no my real name tho.....so dont let anyone see.....
i appreciate your knowledge here and your willingness to shoo away the......shenanigans
im an avid gun guy and that really hits a nerve lol. People think they know it all after seeing COD. |
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Posted - 2012.08.02 03:05:00 -
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vermacht Doe wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:vermacht Doe wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:well, the only thing i saw was you saying the FN 5.7x28mm having less stopping power than 9mm...while it does have a little less actual force, and by that i mean a minimal amount, the p90 cartridge is basically a rifle round, not a pistol round. The terminal ballistics because of that make it a superior cartridge and id say the increased penetration make it have more stopping power.....
was being really picky after seeing the idiots above you. Against unarmoured targets the 9m is superior because of it's larger cavitation but it is near useless against most body armor. Anyways thanks for backing me up and what is your psn name? PSN: Lurchasaurus its secret, no one can no my real name tho.....so dont let anyone see..... i appreciate your knowledge here and your willingness to shoo away the......shenanigans im an avid gun guy and that really hits a nerve lol. People think they know it all after seeing COD. I have proven that cod is for kids. I let my 6 year old cousin play it for a while and he went over twenty kills each match Edit: do you have a headset
 im not surprised.
its funny looking at those stat sheets where they have the "power" of guns shown by a bar graph.....like you need 7 shots with an smg to kill a guy....where he can keep running away if you dont hit him enough..
if i shot a guy with my desert eagle i would blow his leg off.
edit: and people complain about single shot kills with a sniper rifle..........lol
even if your body armor stops a .308, your ribs are piercing your lungs and heart and you drown in your own blood. Dotn even get me started on .338 Lapua
but alas, this is a video game... |
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Posted - 2012.08.02 03:13:00 -
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Tbone322 wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:vermacht Doe wrote:Kira Lannister wrote:Silly Rabbit Wikipedia is edited by kids! I cross reference with more trusted sites i fire the guns. Have you fired a PS90? I'm thinking of picking one up after I finish my AR15 build i'm currently working on.
meh....ammo is scarce and its kinda a gimmick....i have had more fun shooting .223. again, finding 5.7 is kinda hard
im more of a rifle guy myself tho so dont let me dissuade you. Its a sleek gun and its fun to shoot something so compact for a change.
edit: if your looking at something for after your AR, take a look at H&K.....great stuff there if you havent already set your sights on a p90 |
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Posted - 2012.08.02 03:17:00 -
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vermacht Doe wrote:Which d eagle did you get. The standard or long barrel
I have a real desert eagle, its an imported IMI .41/.44 from back when they still exported the guns and you didnt have to get an American copy.
believe its a 6 in. but i could be wrong, dont know off the top of my head |
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Posted - 2012.08.02 03:22:00 -
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vermacht Doe wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:vermacht Doe wrote:Which d eagle did you get. The standard or long barrel I have a real desert eagle, its an imported IMI .41/.44 from back when they still exported the guns and you didnt have to get an American copy. believe its a 6 in. but i could be wrong, dont know off the top of my head It might be 7 in. Like the American copy but i don't know for sure
lol they dont make a 7 in.
my gun is an IMI from like the 70's. the gun statred being made in the US in 95, then briefly ent back to israel under IWI a couple years later. Now its back in the US tho. |
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Posted - 2012.08.02 03:29:00 -
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vermacht Doe wrote:I wasn't sure but i know they make a standard(6in.) And a long barrel (10in.)
they make a bunch of different variants now, and they arent all in large calibers. it a fun gun tho. |
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Posted - 2012.08.02 03:32:00 -
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Regis Mark V wrote:If SMG's go into the main slot then snipers are ****** in CQC. Making SMG a secondary is good but maybe it should only be for scouts. Or make semi and full auto pistols. That's the only way putting the SMG in the primary only spot reasonable!
bottom line, smg is a secondary for a reason. |
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Posted - 2012.08.02 04:09:00 -
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Ten-Sidhe wrote:p90 is a pdw(personal defense weapon), similar to smg but not the same.
smg(mac10, mp-5) fire pistol ammo, 9x19mm or .45 for example
pdw(p90, mp7) fire miniture rifle ammo,designed for pdw, 4.6x30mm or 5.7x28mm for example
assault rifle(ak-47,m-16) fire reduced power rifle rounds, 7.62x39mm or 5.62x45mm for example
battle rifle(m-14,m-1)(and many designated marksmen) fire full power rifle, 7.62x51mm or 7.62x54mm for example
i know?
was there a point there?
edit: cause if so, id love to talk about it |
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Posted - 2012.08.02 04:17:00 -
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vermacht Doe wrote:Pdw are compact rifles (pdw r) smgs are any automatic pistol caliber weapon
lol sorry dude.....a pdw is a pdw......compact rifles are called carbines...... |
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Posted - 2012.08.02 04:38:00 -
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pretty much in simple, generalized not too picky terms:
battle rifle - high powered rifle round
assault rifle - rifle rounds (ak rounds or .223)
carbine - just a shorter version of the same rifle, meant originally for calvary use, but then moved to any kind of non infantry stuffs like naval use
smg - pistol rounds
pdw - pistol round sized rifle rounds(new era hybrid round bullshit) |
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