breach is definately over powered, has very good range too it seems

Breach isn't overpowered, imo. You have to remember that by now, people have trained up their Assault Rifle Proficiency to lvl 4 or 5 which give +5% damage per lvl plus they have damage mods (sometimes double stacked). With Light Weapon Sharpshooter to lvl5, the Breach can be a pretty deadly weapon...

Breach's are too powerful: they have incredible range, super high dps and no spread or recoil whatsoever.
They beat snipers at long range, they beat smg's and close range and to me, thats too powerfull.

Breach isn't overpowered, imo. You have to remember that by now, people have trained up their Assault Rifle Proficiency to lvl 4 or 5 which give +5% damage per lvl plus they have damage mods (sometimes double stacked). With Light Weapon Sharpshooter to lvl5, the Breach can be a pretty deadly weapon...

tac should do like 75-90 damage with some moderate recoil

Hes right....please dont get me started on the Creon Dreo and how awesome it is when its dominating me over and over and over....I have a Stormside and I have to solidly acquire and empty the whole clip into a proto to take it down.
I heard this like i said I think the people that complain about the breach just dont want another wep on the battlefield as powerful as there Creon AR's.

I think we should wait till they fix the hit detection before tweaking the guns.

The breach is overall better than a weapon in the same class. It needs tweaking regardless

I disagree I use both the duvole and credon ars and have found the duvole is better at close quarters and credon better at mid to long range.

The creo SHOULD be better than the duvolle, it's much more expensive.

Did you detect any traces of duct tape on the Breach weapons? This may explain why they are so OP.....

Nah...no duct tape here. They are plasma weapons, which technically makes them of the Hybrid class, specifically the blaster subclass of the Hybrid class, which makes them Gallente.

Caldari - Sniper rifle (railgun), swarm launcher (missiles)
Gallente - AR, Shotgun, Nanohives (drones)
Minmatar - HMG, Mass Driver?, Scrambler pistol (I think), SMG? (I think it's projectile, could be a blaster too though, which would be Gallente
Amarr - Nothing currently, laser weapons when we get them
Deep Core Mining - Forge gun (Its a modified mining laser used to accelerate a really big hunk of something heavy)

breach is fine. tactical could use a buff, though. i havent beem killed by a tactical ever.

Im less concerned about the breech.

The creodon breech assault rifle two or three shots anything. Thats a little overkill.

my only problem with the breach weapons is the enhanced hipfire.

having a long range, low recoil weapon, that trades DPS is perfectly valid. every videogame in the world has guns like this. the thing you think of as "better at range, worse up close"

the problem is that with the improved hipfire, it's arguably better up close.



also, just **** the tactical, remove it. semi-autos just end up being ignored by 95% of the playerbase, abused by 4.9% with modded controllers, and used legit by .1% for no reason other than that they are special snowflakes and want to be different.

alternately you could use a firecap, but the .01% hate those, and you need to cap it low enough to balance its dps with normal rifles or else it will still be abused.

i find breach hard to scope in with because its so different and if you're close enough when sniping to be seen and aimed at before you can aim at said enemy you deserve to be killed

althogh i argee about tactical weapons maby larger mags would fix it