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Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.07.28 21:36:00 - [61] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: Lurchasaurus wrote: every complaint people have about tanks is irrelevant since we are in beta WHICH MEANS no orbital strikes, mtacs, vtols, artillery, etc......in game yet how are you gonna feel when you attack a funded corporation and they throw money at you in order to keep their planets? Probably won't bother thanks. But that's ok because EvE corps are pussies who hardly attack each other. Factional war will be where it's at. Edit: most EvE corps that is. I am making huge generalisations with that statement. Either you are a troll, or a ******. (ok, why is drater (spelled backwards here) censored?) EVE Corps hardly attack each other? More ships are killed every hour in wars between EVE corps, than anywhere else in EVE.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.07.28 21:40:00 - [62] - Quote More kills in 1 game of MAG than in a full day of EvE. It's because your ISk, and your ships mean so much to you. Which is fair enough for EvE players. Edit: more to EvE than face shooting too.
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.07.28 21:45:00 - [63] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: More kills in 1 game of MAG than in a full day of EvE. It's because your ISk, and your ships mean so much to you. Which is fair enough for EvE players. Edit: more to EvE than face shooting too. EVE is unique especially because ships cost as much as they do, and unlike lesser games, we don't just respawn free of charge.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.07.28 22:03:00 - [64] - Quote Quote: EVE is unique especially because ships cost as much as they do, and unlike lesser games, we don't just respawn free of charge. I know. But that's kinda my point. Dust won't have that aspect. When is the last time 1million kills were made on EvE. We did that here on Dust the other weekend. Factional war will be more fun than null sec UNLESS you already have ties with EvE. Edit: avoid calling all other games "lesser games". Makes you sound a bit of a tit.
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.07.29 04:20:00 - [65] - Quote it WILL have that aspect tho....yes it will be at a way faster pace than EVE, rightly so...its down in the dust rather than on huge ships. The game wont play like COD tho were you just spawn throw your nades and die....(not that thats what i do...) Prices will be much higher than they are now and you will have to give a **** cause not everyone will be able to afford proto gear, regardless of how bad they want to use it... get ready for those whiny posts down the road..... Anyway, Battles are at the corporation level in high stakes battles and it will be fast paced and very costly. Playing proto suits in PvE and arena should not be economical
Xocoyol Zaraoul Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 259	Posted - 2012.07.29 04:35:00 - [66] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: More kills in 1 game of MAG than in a full day of EvE. I had no idea that an average of 13-14 thousand MAG players die in an average match in MAG. That is extremely impressive of a figure. April alone had 406,790 lost PC ships (This number does not include rookie ships or ships killed by CONCORD). Player ships lost to PvP Total GÇô 248,610 High sec GÇô 61,790 Low sec GÇô 63,903 Null sec GÇô 108,317 Wormhole GÇô 18,829 Player ships lost to PvE Total GÇô 158,180 High sec GÇô 138,880 Low sec GÇô 6,595 Null sec GÇô 8,486 Wormhole GÇô 4,229 Top killing alliances in high sec RvB Blue Republic GÇô 11,444 RvB Red Federation GÇô 10,442 Goonswarm Federation GÇô 1,028 Top killing alliances in low sec Heretic Nation GÇô 1492 Negative Ten. GÇô 1265 Shadow Cartel GÇô 1180 Top killing alliances in null sec Against ALL Authorities GÇô 5402 Northern Coalition. GÇô 3927 Goonswarm Federation GÇô 3281 Top killing alliances in wormhole space Exhale. GÇô 239 Transmission Lost GÇô 207 Adhocracy GÇô 128 Narwhals Ate My Duck GÇô 113 Stats can be found here: https://twitter.com/ccp_diagoras Even only counting PVP, that is over 8,000 PC ships lost daily in pure PvP (Again, not counting any rookie ships). Real nul-sec PvPers go into battle expecting to lose their ships as you can't fight if you are afraid of losing your toy. Some people even deliberately lose their ships in the art of "Suicide Ganking" where you prove even to High-Sec players that truly no where you are safe.
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.07.29 04:38:00 - [67] - Quote numbers?!....what are you gonna do now? looks to the opposition
Xocoyol Zaraoul Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 259	Posted - 2012.07.29 04:56:00 - [68] - Quote For anyone curious on CONCORD kills on the suicide gankers (More PvP related losses) and would-be criminals: CONCORD/Police/Sentries destroyed 26,292 ships (not rookie ships or shuttles) in April. I should also add that April was a slow month.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.07.29 04:59:00 - [69] - Quote Give up trying to reason with EvEtards. More ships were killed by NPC's in high sec than died in PvP null sec. Edit: half the null sec kills will be capsules anyway. 50thousand in a busy month is about 1.5k a day. That's about the same as 1 game of MAG. Tbh 2-3k kills in MAG is quite possible.
Crimson MoonV Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 658	Posted - 2012.07.29 05:06:00 - [70] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: Give up trying to reason with EvEtards. More ships were killed by NPC's in high sec than died in PvP null sec. Evetards just want to camp in vehicles like they do they do in eve. I hate to break it to you. This is not eve. You might actually have to use your gun.

Xocoyol Zaraoul Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 259	Posted - 2012.07.29 05:07:00 - [71] - Quote Yes, and significantly more people losing ships to players then NPCs so supports your "Eve corps hardly attack each other" theory. Indeed, I too am so shocked that more new players lose their ships learning how to fight in high sec, then vets lose their ships fighting each other in null-sec. Looking at the totals though, it seems like people are dying much faster to each other then to NPCs. Crazy, right? These are not 30 second fights, these are typically extended engagements, there is constant fighting going on in virtually every system at all times.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.07.29 05:23:00 - [72] - Quote Actually my point was that null sec is full of lame arses. Your stats say that too. Just tally up the high and low sec kills. My point was I have very little time for playing dust to please some one who claims all other games are "lesser games"
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.07.29 05:29:00 - [73] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: Evetards just want to camp in vehicles like they do they do in eve. I hate to break it to you. This is not eve. You might actually have to use your gun. #1 - scroll up and tell me what it says above the Dust 514 logo on the site. #2 - Nah, I probably wont have to use my gun, cause while your standing there telling me ima scrub and that vehicles are for noobs, ima make you splode with my tank, then my corp buds are gonna chase you down and kill ya with whatever they got, followed by the rest of your team telling you to go back to COD. #3 - I use my gun plenty. Love trompin round with my Forge gun wreaking havok and them pulling out my smg to mow down the idiots thinking im an easy kill cause of my primary wep. Are you a better rifleman than i am? Maybe. Are you better than my teammates with their rifles? Nope. (Speaking about Corp battles) Battles are run at the team level and the successful teams will operate on a more complex level than individuals coming from other games are used to. Its fine, its a complex game. Why do you feel its necessary to **** on people using vehicles in a game that uses vehicles? If you really dont like it, go play a game that doesnt have them. edit: Im not an Evetard, i actually dont have that much game time on that game an am not currently active on it. If you dont like people from Eve, why are you playing a game directly tied into the game and for the most part, just an extension of it?
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.07.29 05:34:00 - [74] - Quote Lurchasaurus, take your head out of the sand sometime. And stop telling people to play other games. We do already.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 259	Posted - 2012.07.29 05:36:00 - [75] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: Actually my point was that null sec is full of lame arses. Your stats say that too. Just tally up the high and low sec kills. My point was I have very little time for playing dust to please some one who claims all other games are "lesser games" Population Distribution High sec 71.5% Low sec 8.2% Null sec 15% Wormhole space 5.4% Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MZD6-vGQms Seems like Null-sec is full of the bloodthirsty folk actually. It also seems like you are really just perpetuating that just as many Mag players act like Magtards as Eve players act like Evetards. You are not exactly posting any higher quality of arguments then the so-called Evetards are or showing any better of clarity of mind nor sanity with so many baseless accusations.
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.07.29 05:41:00 - [76] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: Lurchasaurus, take your head out of the sand sometime. And stop telling people to play other games. We do already. my head's in the sand? k I tell no one to leave Dust for another game. I simply imply they would have so much more fun playing them based on their complaints right now about the current test build. I want CCP to do well, which they will, and if anything encourage more people to come play. hold off on the flaming reponses for about a minute, ima go grab a drink
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.07.29 05:44:00 - [77] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: [ This is not eve. Your right, its Dust, an extension of EVE. go ahead an look at this image and tell me what the two words and number say. It even says it twice for ya in case you didnt see it the first time http://gamerant.com/dust-514-eve-online-integration-robk-143280/ edit: im not trying to say this game is EVE or should be exactly the same. Just realize there might be some similarities.....ya know, same company and all...
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.07.29 05:49:00 - [78] - Quote My point stands. Null sec will be lame as a Dust Merc.
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.07.29 05:51:00 - [79] - Quote xAckie wrote: It was the same game you were in. And what you throughout that game was orgasm about that tank and say I have to message the guy and find out his build. Nope. I didn't do that. must be your imagination. Really. Don't "dumb" people down by inventing dumb things, claiming they said it.
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.07.29 05:56:00 - [80] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: My point stands. Null sec will be lame as a Dust Merc. fair enough. im expecting it to be pretty busy since the corps of EVE are pretty ruthless and are always trying to get a leg up. Also, by your posts im assuming you dont know too much about eve, so you probably dont know that they have a LOT of money. Like billions is not uncommon. If you could get your hands on some of that money im sure even you would be willing to go into null sec for a lil bit, right?

Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.07.29 13:39:00 - [81] - Quote Not really. Hi sec corps have billions too. Null sec is just full of people like your self who think ISK actually matters to people. Guess what the stress test showed? Out of around 20k people who were bothered enough to get a code, and the untold numbers of temp keys less than 5% showed up. No-one cares about ISK or SP.They want a good fun game. Fighting againt 50000 marauders isn't fun. Really, I'll be making plenty of ISK in hisec. Money won't have me working for arrogant idiot EvE players. I think you'll find your OP is exactly the attitude I'm referring to. "your going to get outclassed, out gunned and out supplied, so FO and play CoD if you don't want to be an EvEtards *****" Get real yeah?
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.07.29 17:05:00 - [82] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: Not really. Hi sec corps have billions too. Null sec is just full of people like your self who think ISK actually matters to people. Guess what the stress test showed? Out of around 20k people who were bothered enough to get a code, and the untold numbers of temp keys less than 5% showed up. No-one cares about ISK or SP.They want a good fun game. Fighting againt 50000 marauders isn't fun. Really, I'll be making plenty of ISK in hisec. Money won't have me working for arrogant idiot EvE players. I think you'll find your OP is exactly the attitude I'm referring to. "your going to get outclassed, out gunned and out supplied, so FO and play CoD if you don't want to be an EvEtards *****" Get real yeah? ...your really gonna base the success of the game on one day of a beta test? You keep making all these generalizations about the playerbase n them not wanting to play this game simply because you dont like it.......disappointing
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.07.29 17:15:00 - [83] - Quote If you think I play for 1 day, check the leaderboards. You were about 3-4 spots below me last I checked. But yeah, I'm playing other games and having bbq's. Because it's tiring leadin the blind.
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.07.29 17:32:00 - [84] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: If you think I play for 1 day, check the leaderboards. You were about 3-4 spots below me last I checked. But yeah, I'm playing other games and having bbq's. Because it's tiring leadin the blind. lol ouch the only part of the leaderboards that i care about are war points and i assure you the only reason your a spot or two above me is because i havent been playing as much lately...... but.....words are words. doesnt really matter where we are tho, clearly both of us know what we are doing since we're even on the boards im certainly not gonna be butthurt cause your on the boards
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.07.29 17:55:00 - [85] - Quote The boards are just an easy way to check who actually plays. I fixed a gunloggi. 16-0 16-0 16-0 for me and both other guys. Militia swarm (I assume) did 13% shield damage. Tanks are OP. having an infinate supply facing you is not fun. Get over it. I don't see why you keep posting stuff which has nothing to do with your own topic
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.07.29 18:02:00 - [86] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: The boards are just an easy way to check who actually plays. I fixed a gunloggi. 16-0 16-0 16-0 for me and both other guys. Militia swarm (I assume) did 13% shield damage. Tanks are OP. having an infinate supply facing you is not fun. Get over it. I don't see why you keep posting stuff which has nothing to do with your own topic because that is where the topic has shifted? its my thread, ill talk about whatever i please lol Tell me tanks are OP after EW orbital strikes, MTACS, VTOLS, sticky AV grenades, group play, etc. THEN I'll consider it, but until that happens, your whining. Tanks are doing what tanks do. Get over it.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.07.29 18:05:00 - [87] - Quote Like I say, it's tiring leading the blind. Hop out of your tank sometime, get some perspective.
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.07.29 18:11:00 - [88] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: Like I say, it's tiring leading the blind. Hop out of your tank sometime, get some perspective. k, while i get some perspective, go learn about just what kind of company CCP is and what kind of game they're actually making. God forbid Dust 514 should have gameplay elements of EVE. Also, I do just fine outside of my tank. I DO however work more efficiently in my tank, so ill do what gives us the best chance of winning, which is the only thing that matters in the end
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.07.29 18:49:00 - [89] - Quote Hilmar on what Dust is/will be from earlier this year. http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/04/29/dust-514-promises-to-be-a-game-changer-an-interview-with-ccp-games-ceo-hilmar-petersson/ I think you may be under the illusion that Dust is not here to get a large population on players who currently have little to no interest in EvE. Seriously get over yourself. Dust is for a new audience.
xprotoman23 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1452	Posted - 2012.07.29 19:00:00 - [90] - Quote I sense the fanboy in this thread is strong



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