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Lurchasaurus
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Posted - 2012.07.27 05:51:00 -
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Very simple....
If a corp wants to fund a bajillion tanks, fine. Its coming out of their wallet.
If you dont like how tanks kill infantry so easily, fine. Go look up 'tank" on wikipedia.
If you dont like how some guy keeps killing you with X or Y weapon, fine. Its not called imbalanced, its called losing to a guy with a proper counter to your current fitting/tactics/play style.
If you think EVE wont last because its not COD, fine. You underestimate CCP, their staying power, and what this game is about.
If you dont like any of these points or dont like the fact that the meta game will have a profound impact on the way this game is played, fine. Unfortunately, this game isnt for you, nor will it change to mimic what you want. CCP has a vision for their baby and they will see it through. Please go find another game as there are many others which would suit your likings much better.
You dont have to feel bad about it, Dust 514 just isnt for you...
(Dust 514 is everything ive ever hoped for in a game and ill be damned if some of the narrow-minded run-n-guns turn it into another COD...I have faith in CCP tho ) |
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Posted - 2012.07.27 05:55:00 -
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Sandromin Hes wrote:Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
Gimme the number of the guy that sells you your devil's lettuce please, ill put him on speed dial. |
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Posted - 2012.07.27 06:02:00 -
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It was a funny joke at first, but please stop filling my thread with trash. Was trying to have a good convo here with my fellow mercs
even gave a +1 to be a good sport |
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Posted - 2012.07.27 06:19:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Hand-waving away balance issues because of something wikipedia says isn't a good answer either, though. Not to say tanks are overpowered, just that people have complaints for a reason. The issues don't materialize in a vacuum. The sensible answer would be to accept the complaints people have and judge them fairly. Although it's great that Dust isn't the same as other FPS games, it doesn't absolve CCP of the responsibility to make a good, fun game.
well said. however, i feel it would be foolish to think that CCP should nerf a tank because a guy feels he cant single handedly take one out. They are made to be tanks for a reason.
I would be bold enough as to say a mojority of the people who say tanks are OP cant be bothered to switch to an AV fit (documented PDIGGY saying this before he comes in guns blazing, so his opinion on this is irrelevant) and repeatedly die to fully manned tanks because they run right by them to the objective, only to whine cause their proto assault suits cant tank railguns or missile launchers.
You wouldnt believe how many idiots waste half a clip of small arms fire on me as i drive by, only to meet my railgun...Its better than a radar.
You would think at some point they would realize an assault rifle wasnt meant for AV uses.... |
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Posted - 2012.07.27 06:26:00 -
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also, you say CCP has an obligation to make a good game....
the many COD games out are redundant and boring now.
What i see in the beta is fantastic and to me, this is a way better game than any of the others, and its only in testing with only a small amount of content.
The good game argument is subjective and while some may say a run-n-gun is better, i say this is better.
Difference is, there are many run-n-guns for them to play. Dust isnt one of em and i will stay here and revel in the game that CCP has in mind for me.
Obviously, as beta testers our opinions matter and shape the game, but it IS CCP's game. We find bugs, break things so CCP knows how to fix them, test mechanics, etc.
However, in the end, CCP knows what kind of game they want to make and if its not what some people were hoping for, i.e. another arcade FPS, then they souldnt be playing a game like Dust that is trying to break the mold and do something different. |
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Posted - 2012.07.27 06:48:00 -
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i lol'd
awesome post |
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Posted - 2012.07.28 04:52:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:7 people to kill 1. Gz. Tanks aren't OP at all ;)
your point is ridiculous and irrelevant....
of course a tank will be stronger than only a few infantry.....
ive put millions of sp into my tanks and i spend a lot of money and effort to keep them running. i do the best i can to help my team and id rather go 6/0 than lose and go 25/0.
im tired of seeing people complain about a tank doing what a tank is meant to do... |
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Posted - 2012.07.28 05:19:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Tony Calif wrote:7 people to kill 1. Gz. Tanks aren't OP at all ;) 7 people to kill 1 tank WITH 3 PEOPLE IN IT, and 5 or so infantry who were also nearby. Sounds fair to me.
^voice of reason |
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Posted - 2012.07.28 06:20:00 -
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Arcushek Dion wrote:I love getting 3 dings when I kill a tank. Most I ever got though was killing a dropship. 5 kills 1 forge gun shot. Heh I never get discouraged when the enemy fields lots of vehicles. Hell I'll go suicide in my proto AR fit just to switch to AV cause I know I'll make at least 300K at the end of the match.
hey man, if you are able to kill me in my tank, please get paid however much you get, youve earned it. seriously. |
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Posted - 2012.07.28 07:01:00 -
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DON RODIE II wrote:I hate cod
COD is a good game, and it has done a lot of good things. It is unfortunate however that the company doesnt care about the game, just a monthly paycheck.
I like Dust for all the reasons that its different from COD |
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Posted - 2012.07.28 08:07:00 -
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every complaint people have about tanks is irrelevant since we are in beta WHICH MEANS
no orbital strikes, mtacs, vtols, artillery, etc......in game yet
how are you gonna feel when you attack a funded corporation and they throw money at you in order to keep their planets? |
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Posted - 2012.07.28 17:47:00 -
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very true
these guys complain about spawn camping at base cause they played at a level deserving of a redline, and even tho they deserve to lose, they eventually will be able to call in strikes, so its all good....
we dont even have EW yet |
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Posted - 2012.07.28 18:19:00 -
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Mister Hunt wrote:Tony Calif wrote:7 people to kill 1. Gz. Tanks aren't OP at all ;) So you should be able to solo it with your AR then? This isn't COD, it is a byproduct of EvE, where a frigate is NOT going to solo a Carrier, so a solo soldier should not be able to take down a tank.
again, well said.
These people dont think about where this game is coming from, or what CCP actually envisions it as being in the future. They liken it to BF3 or COD and cry nerf or buff based on those games. this is incomparable. |
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Posted - 2012.07.29 04:20:00 -
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it WILL have that aspect tho....yes it will be at a way faster pace than EVE, rightly so...its down in the dust rather than on huge ships. The game wont play like COD tho were you just spawn throw your nades and die....(not that thats what i do...) Prices will be much higher than they are now and you will have to give a **** cause not everyone will be able to afford proto gear, regardless of how bad they want to use it...
get ready for those whiny posts down the road.....
Anyway, Battles are at the corporation level in high stakes battles and it will be fast paced and very costly.
Playing proto suits in PvE and arena should not be economical |
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Posted - 2012.07.29 04:38:00 -
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numbers?!....what are you gonna do now?
*looks to the opposition* |
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Posted - 2012.07.29 05:29:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:Evetards just want to camp in vehicles like they do they do in eve. I hate to break it to you. This is not eve. You might actually have to use your gun.
#1 - scroll up and tell me what it says above the Dust 514 logo on the site.
#2 - Nah, I probably wont have to use my gun, cause while your standing there telling me ima scrub and that vehicles are for noobs, ima make you splode with my tank, then my corp buds are gonna chase you down and kill ya with whatever they got, followed by the rest of your team telling you to go back to COD.
#3 - I use my gun plenty. Love trompin round with my Forge gun wreaking havok and them pulling out my smg to mow down the idiots thinking im an easy kill cause of my primary wep. Are you a better rifleman than i am? Maybe. Are you better than my teammates with their rifles? Nope.
(Speaking about Corp battles)
Battles are run at the team level and the successful teams will operate on a more complex level than individuals coming from other games are used to. Its fine, its a complex game.
Why do you feel its necessary to **** on people using vehicles in a game that uses vehicles? If you really dont like it, go play a game that doesnt have them.
edit: Im not an Evetard, i actually dont have that much game time on that game an am not currently active on it. If you dont like people from Eve, why are you playing a game directly tied into the game and for the most part, just an extension of it? |
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Posted - 2012.07.29 05:41:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Lurchasaurus, take your head out of the sand sometime.
And stop telling people to play other games. We do already.
my head's in the sand? k
I tell no one to leave Dust for another game. I simply imply they would have so much more fun playing them based on their complaints right now about the current test build. I want CCP to do well, which they will, and if anything encourage more people to come play.
hold off on the flaming reponses for about a minute, ima go grab a drink |
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Posted - 2012.07.29 05:44:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:[ This is not eve.
Your right, its Dust, an extension of EVE.
go ahead an look at this image and tell me what the two words and number say. It even says it twice for ya in case you didnt see it the first time
http://gamerant.com/dust-514-eve-online-integration-robk-143280/
edit: im not trying to say this game is EVE or should be exactly the same. Just realize there might be some similarities.....ya know, same company and all... |
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Posted - 2012.07.29 05:56:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:My point stands. Null sec will be lame as a Dust Merc.
fair enough. im expecting it to be pretty busy since the corps of EVE are pretty ruthless and are always trying to get a leg up. Also, by your posts im assuming you dont know too much about eve, so you probably dont know that they have a LOT of money. Like billions is not uncommon.
If you could get your hands on some of that money im sure even you would be willing to go into null sec for a lil bit, right? |
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Posted - 2012.07.29 17:05:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Not really. Hi sec corps have billions too. Null sec is just full of people like your self who think ISK actually matters to people. Guess what the stress test showed? Out of around 20k people who were bothered enough to get a code, and the untold numbers of temp keys less than 5% showed up. No-one cares about ISK or SP.They want a good fun game. Fighting againt 50000 marauders isn't fun. Really, I'll be making plenty of ISK in hisec. Money won't have me working for arrogant idiot EvE players. I think you'll find your OP is exactly the attitude I'm referring to.
"your going to get outclassed, out gunned and out supplied, so FO and play CoD if you don't want to be an EvEtards *****"
Get real yeah?
...your really gonna base the success of the game on one day of a beta test?
You keep making all these generalizations about the playerbase n them not wanting to play this game simply because you dont like it.......disappointing |
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Posted - 2012.07.29 17:32:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:If you think I play for 1 day, check the leaderboards. You were about 3-4 spots below me last I checked. But yeah, I'm playing other games and having bbq's.
Because it's tiring leadin the blind.
lol ouch
the only part of the leaderboards that i care about are war points and i assure you the only reason your a spot or two above me is because i havent been playing as much lately......
but.....words are words. doesnt really matter where we are tho, clearly both of us know what we are doing since we're even on the boards
im certainly not gonna be butthurt cause your on the boards |
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Posted - 2012.07.29 18:02:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:The boards are just an easy way to check who actually plays.
I fixed a gunloggi. 16-0 16-0 16-0 for me and both other guys. Militia swarm (I assume) did 13% shield damage. Tanks are OP. having an infinate supply facing you is not fun. Get over it. I don't see why you keep posting stuff which has nothing to do with your own topic
because that is where the topic has shifted? its my thread, ill talk about whatever i please lol
Tell me tanks are OP after EW orbital strikes, MTACS, VTOLS, sticky AV grenades, group play, etc.
THEN I'll consider it, but until that happens, your whining.
Tanks are doing what tanks do. Get over it. |
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Posted - 2012.07.29 18:11:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Like I say, it's tiring leading the blind. Hop out of your tank sometime, get some perspective.
k, while i get some perspective, go learn about just what kind of company CCP is and what kind of game they're actually making. God forbid Dust 514 should have gameplay elements of EVE.
Also, I do just fine outside of my tank. I DO however work more efficiently in my tank, so ill do what gives us the best chance of winning, which is the only thing that matters in the end |
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