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Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.07.27 08:27:00 -
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Are you done crying that CoD plays better? Or do more people have more tears to add... So bored of seeing people say "this game is not for you" like some kinda genius games guru. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.07.27 11:27:00 -
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Tbh, attitudes like the OP are putting me off playing more than the Beta being boring. I'll make a thread later explaining exactly why HAV's are completely out of balance with the rest of the game and even each other. Not nearly enough time while I work. But the short story is who dies to a Gunloggi, who dies to a Sagaris? |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.07.27 12:55:00 -
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19-0 in a sica. Tanks are OP if you are even half decent at driving. I even killed a surya 1vs1 in my sica. The problem is the 1.5 damage multiplier.
No-one says "gunnloggi's are broken" even when they can take pretty similar levels of damage. No-one cries because a couple of militia tanks are rolling about. The problem is not HAV's but marauders. The fact is if a marauder shoots at you, your dead.
MILITIA Small missile = 200 splash
That's 300 on a marauder. 1.6 seconds isn't even long enough to charge a forge gun/lock. 2 launchers do 1200 SPLASH damage in 1.6 seconds.
The damage output is insane. If a marauder sees you, you're dead. Unless the gunners are terrible. It's pathetic that the tankers dont realise this.
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Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.07.27 13:10:00 -
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They should look at tanks. 3 marauder is instant win if you have 3 people who will cap an objective. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.07.27 14:47:00 -
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So do tell me what the counter to it. Because your anecdotes about team work don't cut it. I killed a SURYA driving a SICA 1vs1 My story is better.
Now, I still don't see how you can argue... 3 Sagaris occupied your whole team. You didn't win. They lost. You killed 1. Gz.
Any marauder can kill the entire AV group in about 5 seconds. Half the time it would take to kill or seriously damage the HAV. Note that Gunloggi's can soak pretty much the same amount of damage. The problem isn't killing Marauders, it's killing them before they kill you and your whole team. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.07.27 15:13:00 -
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7 people to kill 1. Gz. Tanks aren't OP at all ;) |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.07.28 16:48:00 -
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You are all beyond help. 7vs1 is fair kknp.
I'll skill HAV's next build. Did them last build. But tbh 7vs1 won't cut it vs a PROPER Sagaris.
Until we have people prepared to go public with their HAV fit with 30k ehp as some guristas pirate was saying, it's tough to test. I'm skeptical at anything beyond 20k tbh |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.07.28 16:51:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:every complaint people have about tanks is irrelevant since we are in beta WHICH MEANS
no orbital strikes, mtacs, vtols, artillery, etc......in game yet
how are you gonna feel when you attack a funded corporation and they throw money at you in order to keep their planets?
Probably won't bother thanks. But that's ok because EvE corps are pussies who hardly attack each other.
Factional war will be where it's at.
Edit: most EvE corps that is. I am making huge generalisations with that statement. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.07.28 21:40:00 -
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More kills in 1 game of MAG than in a full day of EvE. It's because your ISk, and your ships mean so much to you. Which is fair enough for EvE players.
Edit: more to EvE than face shooting too. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.07.28 22:03:00 -
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Quote:
EVE is unique especially because ships cost as much as they do, and unlike lesser games, we don't just respawn free of charge.
I know. But that's kinda my point. Dust won't have that aspect. When is the last time 1million kills were made on EvE. We did that here on Dust the other weekend.
Factional war will be more fun than null sec UNLESS you already have ties with EvE.
Edit: avoid calling all other games "lesser games". Makes you sound a bit of a tit. |
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Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.07.29 04:59:00 -
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Give up trying to reason with EvEtards. More ships were killed by NPC's in high sec than died in PvP null sec.
Edit: half the null sec kills will be capsules anyway. 50thousand in a busy month is about 1.5k a day. That's about the same as 1 game of MAG. Tbh 2-3k kills in MAG is quite possible. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.07.29 05:23:00 -
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Actually my point was that null sec is full of lame arses. Your stats say that too. Just tally up the high and low sec kills. My point was I have very little time for playing dust to please some one who claims all other games are "lesser games" |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.07.29 05:34:00 -
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Lurchasaurus, take your head out of the sand sometime.
And stop telling people to play other games. We do already. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.07.29 05:49:00 -
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My point stands. Null sec will be lame as a Dust Merc. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.07.29 13:39:00 -
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Not really. Hi sec corps have billions too. Null sec is just full of people like your self who think ISK actually matters to people. Guess what the stress test showed? Out of around 20k people who were bothered enough to get a code, and the untold numbers of temp keys less than 5% showed up. No-one cares about ISK or SP.They want a good fun game. Fighting againt 50000 marauders isn't fun. Really, I'll be making plenty of ISK in hisec. Money won't have me working for arrogant idiot EvE players. I think you'll find your OP is exactly the attitude I'm referring to.
"your going to get outclassed, out gunned and out supplied, so FO and play CoD if you don't want to be an EvEtards *****"
Get real yeah? |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.07.29 17:15:00 -
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If you think I play for 1 day, check the leaderboards. You were about 3-4 spots below me last I checked. But yeah, I'm playing other games and having bbq's.
Because it's tiring leadin the blind. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.07.29 17:55:00 -
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The boards are just an easy way to check who actually plays.
I fixed a gunloggi. 16-0 16-0 16-0 for me and both other guys. Militia swarm (I assume) did 13% shield damage. Tanks are OP. having an infinate supply facing you is not fun. Get over it. I don't see why you keep posting stuff which has nothing to do with your own topic |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.07.29 18:05:00 -
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Like I say, it's tiring leading the blind. Hop out of your tank sometime, get some perspective. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.07.29 18:49:00 -
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Hilmar on what Dust is/will be from earlier this year.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/04/29/dust-514-promises-to-be-a-game-changer-an-interview-with-ccp-games-ceo-hilmar-petersson/
I think you may be under the illusion that Dust is not here to get a large population on players who currently have little to no interest in EvE.
Seriously get over yourself. Dust is for a new audience. |
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