Not sure how your coming up with your numbers mate. Some of us have done a much better job at this. I have something in the works, that will hopefully be online soon.

Maybe you should leave the numbers to the pros ;)

war points are just a measure of how much you do... you're basically comparing kills to hacks/repairs/assists . not a valid measure of skill imo. also kills give warpoints themselves (50 in most cases)

Well first I have to make sure posting the calculator on the net won't break the NDA, then I will provide a link and you can see for yourself.

by using the numbers provided, where is your "much better job" ?

Your formula directly penalizes support actions and is not a good measure of Kills/Time. The people who score highest on your list are people who are doing nothing except killing - no assists, no destroyed vehicles, no hacks. I won't say that makes them bad players, but I am not sure that makes them the best.

Well for one, we look at more than just kills, we take into account the type of game dust is, and well we know how to do math.

three stats can become nine, it's all in knowing how to use them.

which means all your doing is killing, not hacking, capping, or helping your team in anyway. this game isn't about just killing things, if that's all it was, nukes are the answer.

You sir, have no imagination, and that's why your numbers are useless.

Because you also earn 50 WP per kill. So K divided by WP is Kills/(50*Kills+Support WP). As support WP approaches 0, your "score" approaches 1, the max value on your system.

LOL prove i dont hack cap ect

ive won game being the only player to hack points

your numbers are garbage, bring your calculator back to wal mart.

so does everyone else, your point?

i'm still the best, and you wont convince me other wise.

Being the best on your scale means you are proportionally least likely to do ANY support actions. You proved it yourself.

Nobody wants to sit in that long ass walmart line doe

I have to agree with Noc, Willful Stupidity can not be cured, sorry.

You asked I answered. I can fix ignorance, I can't fix stupid.

fine you want a stat, .59

that is you sir, the second lowest score out of over 100 entries I have in my spread sheet. I'm done here, enjoy your tiny little world.

wow you made a number that means nothing LOL

2v2 gladiator arena, could we go 100-0 or better?

Why do you need him on your team? Is it because against disorganized, average-skill players you only have a 4.72 KDR?

diggehh a homie doe

need corp and arena matches now

Is that all you poor people care about? Bread and circuses?

Is that all you poor people care about? Bread and circuses?

your jokes are almost as pathetic as your game play

since war points are the closest thing to determining playing time, i decide to see where everyone would rank that is note worthy.

zitro 0.0131

carlos 0.0107

alexzx 0.0151

proto 0.015622

PDIGGY22 0.01587

noc tanker 0.00977




thoughts? am i the best?

If you divided kills by war points then the smaller the number is the more war points the player earns per kill. So 10 kills and 10 war points gives a 1.0 ratio and 10 kills to 10000 war points gives a 0.001 ratio. So by YOUR numbers listed you are the worst on that list (no offense) giving me the best ratio for NON-tank drivers.

Sorry if someone else pointed this out, I didn't read most of the posts.

only the one posted here truly matters, what do your stats prove?

fact: i average more kills per war points then anyone in this game

If you divided kills by war points then the smaller the number is the more war points the player earns per kill. So 10 kills and 10 war points gives a 1.0 ratio and 10 kills to 10000 war points gives a 0.001 ratio. So by YOUR numbers listed you are the worst on that list (no offense) giving me the best ratio for NON-tank drivers.

Sorry if someone else pointed this out, I didn't read most of the posts.

Now about this PDIGGY show your math and explain where you numbers came from in detail and maybe people will actually care. Until then you are just a troll with an ego. Since the leaderboards aren't on the forums you we can't see your numbers without getting into game. Post them and show your work.

I just killed you 3 times in-game the other day within 5 minutes. I don't know where you're getting your "facts."

Divide 1 by 50 to get WP per kill. That gives 0.20, assuming no bonuses from squad commands.

So, the closer to 0.2, the more kills you get compared to any other type of gameplay e.g. hacking, uplinks, etc.

We can safely assume that 75% of your game is killing.

1 divided by 50 is .02 and really only about 25% of this game is straight up killing, the rest assisting your team.

are you dumb? there are only 3 stats shown, it's not like i made a complex formula to determine kills per war points, i'm sure if your as smart as you try to be you can figure it out on your own..

Take your kills and multiply by 50.

Kills * 50 = Base War Points earned by kills

That's the base amount of War Points earned for kills. I'll shorten this to KWP.

Take the Total War Points (shortened to WP) and divide by the KWP:

WP / KWP

This will give you a number above (or in special cases exactly equal to) one.

In the result, "1" is an understood representation of war points earned through kills. So to get a value that is a reflection of war points outside of kills, subtract one from this number to get an adjusted war point value for actions outside of kills (shortened to Action War Points or AWP).

(WP / KWP) - 1 = AWP

The closer this number is to 0 (zero) the more heavily the individual relies on kills to earn war points.

As the number approaches 1 it suggests the individual earns almost equally the same amount of war points outside of kills as they do for kills. (If it's exactly 1 they earn an equal amount of war points for other actions as they do for kills)

Any number above 1 means they earn more war points for other actions than they do for kills. (More than 50% of their war points are other actions)


So in terms of placing things in perspective:


1. Omnipotens Zitro: (988,718 / 649,350) - 1 = .523

2. STB-sticarlos989 EV: (1,005,601 / 539,600) - 1 = .864

3. Alex-ZX: (597,621 / 452,850) - 1 = .320

4. xprotoman23: (566,878 / 442,650) - 1 = .281

5. Jim Bill 420Warrior: (1,152,277 / 417,400) -1 = 1.761

6. xspn187x: (593,740 / 412,600) -1 = .439

7. Sha Kharn Clone: (639,302 / 393,150) -1 = .626

8. YoUnGcUz: (680,968 / 387,200) -1 = .759

9. Ruthra25: (778,617 / 380,350) -1 = 1.047

10. Noc Tempre: (901,463 / 359,550) -1 = 1.507

31. PDIGGY22: (348,304 / 276,400) - 1 = .260

Myself (For my own humility): (224,791 / 101,500) - 1 = 1.215

Wow you missed the point. You are the one trying to prove you math is right pretend this is school and show your damn work or stfu. Otherwise you prove nothing as the rest of us have no basis to check your work. I just want to see you show your stats and then the order of operations you used to get your numbers.

You are the one intent on stroking your epeen just show us what numbers you used. Don't tell me show me. I have kids I can't just turn the game whenever I want to look up your stats. Just humor me unless of course you are afraid that you made a mistake in your math.

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BTW I am not dumb my IQ is probably 25 points higher than yours just based on the average compared to mine.

LOL those numbers are facts, im not doing more work than i already did just to satisfy you. you mean nothing, your opinion means nothing, hell i dont even read 90% of the posts directed towards me, I just dont care what you think, want or "know".

I pay little mind to the hoi polloi when they lash out against their betters.
They can't help being the way they are what with their substandard upbringing and low financial standing.

2. STB-sticarlos989 EV: (1,005,601 / 539,600) - 1 = .864
Sooooo explain how you have this many kills and you still cannot aim

Its okay someone posted the numbers for you now I just want to know did you divide kills by war points or war points by kill?

***** GETTING REAL PART II

***** GETTING REAL AGAIN!!!! IN 3D!

that doesnt prove anything tho as i can kill 30 people in a match and cap 5 letters and someone else can kill 10 people and cap 5 letters and your stat would favor the player with far less kills.

Obviously i'm not going to dispute the fact i get a LOT of kills, but the basis of skill in a shooter in killing people, not holding circle or throwing down a nanohive/uplink for free points, or playing not to die.

He pisses me off for some reason

BTW PDIGGY i agree with you 100%, however did you ever take into account for squad bonuses

PDIGGY

So your method is kills/WP.

5528/348304 = 0.0158 approx.
You know it really would not have been that difficult for you to fully show and explain your method. Killing the other team is however very important but if all you do is kill and not cap points ( I know you have said that you do cap the points often enough) your team will still lose. My point is that overemphasising kills doesn't win in skirmish or likely many other game modes in the future.

Since killing is not necessarily the most important aspect in this game it may not be the best way to determine who is the best player.

Perhaps going off of who has the most of both kills and war points. That could be done just by playing more then anyone else though. You want to be the best why don't you try waiting until the arenas are added and you can challenge anyone who wants to try to beat you.
Now by all means call me dumb again you pedantic and insignificant little turd. STFU.

Everyone knows that there is a direct correlation between the amount of e's in your name, and your skill in game.

come at me casuals.

Ben-jeh-men Helle-es
Forever stuck at level 6, damn you logic!

sorry bro your second to last of the players tested, the higher the better

These numbers people keep throwing around do not account for attacking vs defending. Whereas with defending there are far less to do when the enemy sits behind a redline and the highest kill total is 12.

Everyone knows that there is a direct correlation between the amount of e's in your name, and your skill in game.

come at me casuals.

No sorry bro, your math is right but your interpretation of the data is wrong. When dividing a small number (kills) by a large number (war points) it approaches zero. The closer the number gets to zero the larger the war points value was, conversely this also works for a lower kill total.

That is why tank drivers have a better ratio because they get kills and assist but also vehicle kills and assist for just being in the tank.

Sorry pdiggy you are wrong others have pointed this out you pulled out these numbers and you're the worst on the list. I'm not trying to be a **** but I'm pointing out fact.

ReGnUm DEl arena battles will be the true test. I use a prototype swarm launcher, prototype SMG, and repairing nano hives to help my team, I don't just play for kills I play for the win. So I consider this beef done until the Great Gladiator Arena Expansion of 2013.

you are terrible at math, and comprehension.

the higher the number the more kills per war points aka the better ratio, the lower the least amount of kills per war points aka the worse the ratio.

example, 10 kills divide by 100,000 wp =.0001

1000 kills divide by 100,000 wp= 0.01 the higher the better

you got a better chance of finding a mathematician named carlos then being statically better then me in a shooter

you got a better chance of finding a mathematician named carlos then being statically better then me in a shooter

No doubt in my mind that PDIGGY is a killer, a good FPS player, not just with kills, but he does do objectives. He has great gun game, much like Proto, and these guys do it in an assualt suit, not some glitchy recon suit or OP tank.
BUT, as for your logic and numbers.....

I can get 20 kills in a game which should equal 1000 WP, however, many times i am squad leader and I ensure objectives being marked so I can get 2500 WP, 125 wp per kill and 250 per objective taken. The point is, there are far too many variables to use WP as a basis of time spent within the game esp when we do not know how it is used to modify SP gained. If you wanted an ego boost just jump into a game and rack up some kills, and if that doesn't do it for you anymore, PDIGGY, you are a swell player, but an ass :)

thank you sir! agreed

Eh PDIGGY is a putz who barely knows how to write a sentence let alone make it coherent.

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I hate my smart phone sometimes.

k.

give up, the OP read "kills per war points" not sure how that is misleading

Because you don't specify that YOUR opinion is that having a majority of your WP be from kills makes you a more skilled player. Most players feel that getting WP from other aspects helps the team out more so than just kills. I feel that a person who gets kills, assists, hacks, and destroys vehicles is better than someone who only gets points from kills, assists, and hacks. So Therefore STB-stlcarlos989 EV >> PDIGGY22.

BTW in math terms ">>" means significantly greater than.

you cant prove you hack, assist, or any other thing besides kills, more then me.

Compare our Kill to WP ratios. As of 11:30pm CST.

PDIGGY22: 5,547 kills and 349,454 War Points
STB-stlcarlos989 EV: 11,075 kills and 1,030,784

For every kill PDIGGY22 averages 62.9987 War Points
For every kill STB-stlcarlos989 EV averages 93.0730 War Points

Point proven.

that just proves you kill less LOL

Yeah so your point is? Also you and I both know who wins our 1v1s.

You're a great player and I'd love to have you in my corp but the point you're arguing doesn't make sense.

Oh and in your example player B is the better player.

you are really dumb if you dont see his highly flawed math.

person A never kills anyone but hacks
person B kills a lot and hacks just as much as player A, who's going to average more war points per kill? exactly my point, back to school yo!

doesn't Jim whatever his name is have the most war points though?

Your math is equally flawed. By your math, and the deductions you make from it, bigger number=better yes? Scenario:

Player A: 20 kills 1000WP
Player B: 20 Kills 1500WP

Player A only killed other players. He hacked no objectives, killed no vehicles, nothing but killing. Player B hacked 5 objectives in addition to his killing. Using your math player A scores a .02 while player B scores a .013333, which by your math and logic makes player A the better player when he clearly was not.

thats under the assumption i never hack, which is wrong.

PDIGGY22 you tell yourself what you need to but the top guns who have faced us know who they would rather see on the other team.

Also I average 25+ kills a game and I've never seen you out kill me in a game, and I use a prototype SL and SMG so I sacrifice killing potential to destroy vehicles in order to help my team more so than just getting kills and hacks.

Turn your brain around and circle back, i do believe you missed the point. Or you didn't and now you're just trolling.

LOL

you have 3x the playing time i do, if i had an extra 5 mill or so in sp i'd have those guns too

Fact: i average more kills per war points then anybody in this beta

dont care about the rest, we wont be getting any more stats for this build.

PDIGGY22 you tell yourself what you need to but the top guns who have faced us know who they would rather see on the other team.

Also I average 25+ kills a game and I've never seen you out kill me in a game, and I use a prototype SL and SMG so I sacrifice killing potential to destroy vehicles in order to help my team more so than just getting kills and hacks.

Fact: i average more kills per war points then anybody in this beta

dont care about the rest, we wont be getting any more stats for this build.

Fact: learn to read

Fact: Your math proves the same amount of nothing as you think everyone elses does

it proves exactly what I wanted it to prove, thats why i posted it.

I know I average more kills per game than anyone in this beta, but there is no way to prove it but using kills per war points makes for a decent indicator.

Fact: i average more kills per war points then anybody in this beta

Fact: That means you have a higher percentage of war points from kills than all other actions which earn War Points.

Fact: That means you do more killing than anyone else for the amount of non-killing you do.

Fact: That still has NO bearing on how valuable you are to your team.

Conclusion: Rethink your math, and "learn to read" isn't a fact.

i never said any of the above were fact, your an idiot for taking things out of context.

Fact: i average the most kills per war points

Fact: That still doesn't actually mean anything

I know I average more kills per game than anyone in this beta, but there is no way to prove it but using kills per war points makes for a decent indicator.

Here's your mistake.

Kills per war points isn't relevant to what you're claiming it means unless you can confirm how many War Points you earn per match.

war points are an indicator of time, well more so then any stat currently available to us. Even as a variable it still holds some weight as most of the "top" players noted by the community have higher kills to war point ratios.

if you took it more then face value then LOL and most of you uber-smart-EVe-guys did.

war points are an indicator of time

where did i ever say it carried a lot of weight?

please show...

I must be drunk to have read this whole entire pointless thread. Damn!

*Bartender! Another shot of tequila to help me forget this idiocy!*

At least you now know to call the OP "Pidgey" when you see him in game... That's worth something, right?

since war points are the closest thing to determining playing time, i decide to see where everyone would rank that is note worthy.

zitro 0.0131

carlos 0.0107

alexzx 0.0151

proto 0.015622

PDIGGY22 0.01587

noc tanker 0.00977




thoughts? am i the best?

War points are not time based they are the points you get in game, i.e. +50 kill, +25 assist etc.

Jim420warrior or what ever his name is Warpoint Warrior tbh. Everybody else isn't on his point whoring level.

Too bad we don't have a profit per kill/WP stat.

Did I mention I have over 50 mil ISK in Dust?

Have I mentioned it today?

By my own formula which shows I do less helpful things per kill than others, I'm still the best, and you wont convince me other wise.