Dewie, I have to say, a couple of games ago, I think you were in a Surya..? I was the one who kept trying to blow you up with a swarm launcher. And dying to you.

Well played, sir. A smart tank driver won't die, where a stupid one will :)

High sec prob have limits

Low and null drop 50 tanks on your foot so adapt or die

Vehicle ratios actually have to be addressed because when in matches there's absolutely no reason as to why 3 out of the 11 players in the match are actually on the ground playing the game while everybody else is off jerking each other.

Once again, there is no need to have arbitrary limits on the numbers of tanks.

Tanks are vulnerable to infantry when they have no infantry support of their own. The turrets can't track fast enough or all the way around well enough to stop infantry from killing you if they get in close.

IF a whole team is running around in tanks, go get an AV setup and **** them cause they dont have support. Or when EWAR is implemented and tracking is disrupted, tanks are slowed, sensors are off etc, tanks will be sitting ducks without support. Thats how you limit the number of tanks. Not with an arbitrary rule that says "Max number of tanks per match is X" but with gameplay mechanics that make it very very risky to use all tanks.

Now please for the love of all that is Holy, STOP asking for arbitrary rules.

Wrong. In nearly every way.

Tons of tanks on the field means you should go get some AV fits and drink their tears.

An arbitrary limit, by definition, LIMITS strategies by forcing players to have a certain KIND of gameplay experience.

If you think that having 12 tanks on your 12 person team is viable, then the answer is NOT to limit the number of tanks, but buff AV or nerf armor or some other method to limit the effectiveness of the tanks in large numbers against infantry.

Please stop saying the same thing over and over again. 'If there are 50 tanks on the field go get AV.' Yeah we get it. No amount of AV will stop 50 tanks shooting you in the spawn. Point is moot.

I hate to break it to you guys but there already is a cap and it will be there come release time. Ccp knows what they are doing.

YOU NEED IT TO BE BALANCED IN ORDER FOR PEOPLE LIKE US TO PLAY! WE WILL GLADLY BE YOUR WORK HORSES FOR A VAST EMPIRE IF THE GAME IS GOOD META GAME MEANS NOTHING IF I CAN'T GET TO THE TOP WITH SKILL

Yea but dont expect in in low/null clan matches

Please stop saying the same thing over and over again. 'If there are 50 tanks on the field go get AV.' Yeah we get it. No amount of AV will stop 50 tanks shooting you in the spawn. Point is moot.

No, but any amount of Drop Uplinks will break a spawn camp. Maybe you should try using them?

I do use drop uplinks. o_0 That won't change the fact that there are still 5 tanks running around the map while my dumb team runs around like sheep to the slaughter. Its a clear imbalance that will drive some of the player base away come release time.

Kthxbia

The imbalance is that stupid people are stupid. Smart people being OP is not nerf-worthy.

Sorry.

Here is my GRAND IDEA that I bestow upon you...

High sec = vehicle cap. Since it will be Factional Warfare, maybe the message could be "higher command denied your request for the HAV/Dropship/LAV." So it isn't arbitrary.

Null and low sec? Drop as many tanks as you want bro!


Tbh, my new motto is that "Grouping needs to be added". Maybe going against a tank solo with a team full of idiots who aren't doing anything to help is not fun.

Try that when I got my corp and alliance backing me up.... if 50 tanks drop in, we are gonna switch to 50 swarm launchers/ forge guns.

NO LIMITS IN NULL SEC.
EXPLAINED LIMITS IN HIGH SEC AND eSPORTS!.

There we go... problem fixed. Shake and bake, Just add teamwork!

tanks 1 hit kill splash damage you literally don't have to aim which = no skill. it's almost like using a rocket launcher in mw2 tbqh with a jug suit.

YOU NEED IT TO BE BALANCED IN ORDER FOR PEOPLE LIKE US TO PLAY! WE WILL GLADLY BE YOUR WORK HORSES FOR A VAST EMPIRE IF THE GAME IS GOOD META GAME MEANS NOTHING IF I CAN'T GET TO THE TOP WITH SKILL

Skill is the only thing that matters. I, the other good players, the cod players, the battlefield players, the halo players, DO NOT give a $HIT about meta, we want a game that's FUN not a game about taking mindless orders from a leader or a game where strat's and numbers can conquer all, it's not balanced when you have so many numbers we can't protect ourselves, even you must realize that.

You keep mentioning "skills". What skills?
The skills for DUST are not the same as those for CoD, BF or MAG.

DUST don't give a **** about mediocre, run of the mill, strafing gun tooting FPS games out there already.
And I'm certain you are selling the other players short when you say they won't like it. Maybe, just MAYBE they are going to love DUST, BECAUSE it is different, BECAUSE it requires skills, real skills (with the brain), instead of just a autofire assisted trigger finger.

Rejoice. It's my understanding vehicle-free ambush is in the pipes.

There are a lot of ideas floating around. The devs have also hinted that there might be skill limited/tiered maps, so veterans can't gain easy SP in wholesale slaughter of new players. THAT would kill DUST, as the new players would never be able to gain traction, and nothing kill the joy of playing like being mowed down like cannon fodder to the tune of a 0/50 KDR for several rounds (exaggerating here, but the notion stands)

EVE universe:

Risk vs. Reward
"If you cant afford losing it, don't use it"


learn it, live it, love it

I do use drop uplinks. o_0 That won't change the fact that there are still 5 tanks running around the map while my dumb team runs around like sheep to the slaughter. Its a clear imbalance that will drive some of the player base away come release time.

Kthxbia

Here is my GRAND IDEA that I bestow upon you...

High sec = vehicle cap. Since it will be Factional Warfare, maybe the message could be "higher command denied your request for the HAV/Dropship/LAV." So it isn't arbitrary.

Null and low sec? Drop as many tanks as you want bro!


Tbh, my new motto is that "Grouping needs to be added". Maybe going against a tank solo with a team full of idiots who aren't doing anything to help is not fun.

Try that when I got my corp and alliance backing me up.... if 50 tanks drop in, we are gonna switch to 50 swarm launchers/ forge guns.

NO LIMITS IN NULL SEC.
EXPLAINED LIMITS IN HIGH SEC AND eSPORTS!.

There we go... problem fixed. Shake and bake, Just add teamwork!