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PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.26 13:11:00 -
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Not that I don't think they have a place in the game, just don't ask me to drive or be your gunner. I feel i'm more useful running around with a gun.
Anyone else just feel like a waste in a vehicle? |
ReGnUm DEl
Doomheim
622
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Posted - 2012.07.26 13:13:00 -
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PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:Not that I don't think they have a place in the game, just don't ask me to drive or be your gunner. I feel i'm more useful running around with a gun.
Anyone else just feel like a waste in a vehicle?
Sorry... but have you not herd DUST is the PS3 version of TANK WARS |
Jesse Jayne
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2012.07.26 13:14:00 -
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I feel the same way but I do remember you offering to share cookies with me if we were stranded on a dropship. I believe your hate from vehicles stems from you not wanting to share your cookies |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.07.26 13:15:00 -
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ReGnUm DEl wrote:PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:Not that I don't think they have a place in the game, just don't ask me to drive or be your gunner. I feel i'm more useful running around with a gun.
Anyone else just feel like a waste in a vehicle? Sorry... but have you not herd DUST is the PS3 version of TANK WARS
Tanks are not OP. They are just pretty hard to kill. With a little group effort, and not a whole lot of that even, they die pretty easily. |
ReGnUm DEl
Doomheim
622
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Posted - 2012.07.26 13:17:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:ReGnUm DEl wrote:PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:Not that I don't think they have a place in the game, just don't ask me to drive or be your gunner. I feel i'm more useful running around with a gun.
Anyone else just feel like a waste in a vehicle? Sorry... but have you not herd DUST is the PS3 version of TANK WARS Tanks are not OP. They are just pretty hard to kill. With a little group effort, and not a whole lot of that even, they die pretty easily.
LOL GROUP EFFORT |
Knarf Black
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.07.26 13:19:00 -
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It's a little depressing how much more SP I get gunning for tanks than running around using the skills I've trained up.
I was hit with a crazy bad case of lag last night and had to ride it out in a tank turret. Ended up being my best game of the evening.
Now I'm thinking they need to tweak the kill assist system for vehicle passengers. Why should the turrets get +25 for every kill the driver makes? I think it should be +25 to the driver for everything his crew does, and +15 for the crew's "assists". |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.07.26 13:19:00 -
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PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:Not that I don't think they have a place in the game, just don't ask me to drive or be your gunner. I feel i'm more useful running around with a gun.
Anyone else just feel like a waste in a vehicle? Every time I jump in a tank I think to myself "wait a minute I can run faster then this'. Then I jump out.
I will let the people with no gun game sit in the tanks. |
EnIgMa99
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
219
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Posted - 2012.07.26 13:20:00 -
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Good working mouse and keyboard man just wait till next build. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.07.26 13:21:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:Not that I don't think they have a place in the game, just don't ask me to drive or be your gunner. I feel i'm more useful running around with a gun.
Anyone else just feel like a waste in a vehicle? Every time I jump in a tank I think to myself "wait a minute I can run faster then this'. Then I jump out. I will let the people with no gun game sit in the tanks.
And I'll let the people with no tank skills and abilities run around, playing cannon fodder. |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.07.26 13:24:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:Not that I don't think they have a place in the game, just don't ask me to drive or be your gunner. I feel i'm more useful running around with a gun.
Anyone else just feel like a waste in a vehicle? Every time I jump in a tank I think to myself "wait a minute I can run faster then this'. Then I jump out. I will let the people with no gun game sit in the tanks. And I'll let the people with no tank skills and abilities run around, playing cannon fodder. You don't need tank skills to kill someone with a tank. Ive tried. You need gun game and skill to kill someone with a gun. |
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Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
153
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Posted - 2012.07.26 13:27:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:And I'll let the people with no tank skills and abilities run around, playing cannon fodder.
And I'll let you be forge gun fodder ;) |
VigSniper101
204
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Posted - 2012.07.26 13:28:00 -
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Strange...this is the first game that l hate being in tanks and actually enjoy Sniping.
{looks outside too see if its raining cats and dogs} |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.07.26 13:29:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:Dewie Cheecham wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:Not that I don't think they have a place in the game, just don't ask me to drive or be your gunner. I feel i'm more useful running around with a gun.
Anyone else just feel like a waste in a vehicle? Every time I jump in a tank I think to myself "wait a minute I can run faster then this'. Then I jump out. I will let the people with no gun game sit in the tanks. And I'll let the people with no tank skills and abilities run around, playing cannon fodder. You don't need tank skills to kill someone with a tank. Ive tried. You need gun game and skill to kill someone with a gun.
Militia tanks don't count. And I am hoping that they will fix the current bug that allows unskilled players to enter vehicles.
That said, it does take skill to survive in a tank. And even then we can fail, partially because of mistakes, partially because of bugs, and partially because infantry DO cooperate at times. |
ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS
99
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Posted - 2012.07.26 13:29:00 -
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Hey dewie have you actually tried anything other than tanks at all ? just curious. |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.07.26 13:34:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Dewie Cheecham wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:Not that I don't think they have a place in the game, just don't ask me to drive or be your gunner. I feel i'm more useful running around with a gun.
Anyone else just feel like a waste in a vehicle? Every time I jump in a tank I think to myself "wait a minute I can run faster then this'. Then I jump out. I will let the people with no gun game sit in the tanks. And I'll let the people with no tank skills and abilities run around, playing cannon fodder. You don't need tank skills to kill someone with a tank. Ive tried. You need gun game and skill to kill someone with a gun. Militia tanks don't count. And I am hoping that they will fix the current bug that allows unskilled players to enter vehicles. That said, it does take skill to survive in a tank. And even then we can fail, partially because of mistakes, partially because of bugs, and partially because infantry DO cooperate at times. Agreed, with two or three people shooting a tank with ARs from odd directions a tank will drop quickly. Tank skills are not a 'must' though. Every time I jump in a tank its easy kills and I have no tank skills. Just aim shoot and watch the +50s rack up. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.07.26 13:40:00 -
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I dont like the tank handling tbh, feels like **** and that i still have no control while it slides about
Also tho we dont have enough AV weapons to use yet and put tht together with epic missile spam with no reloading or anything it makes it worse espc with randoms
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Garma QUDA
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
468
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Posted - 2012.07.26 13:45:00 -
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EnIgMa99 wrote:Good working mouse and keyboard man just wait till next build.
That keyboard gonna give you console acess? |
Winscar Shinobi
50
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Posted - 2012.07.26 13:48:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:ReGnUm DEl wrote:PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:Not that I don't think they have a place in the game, just don't ask me to drive or be your gunner. I feel i'm more useful running around with a gun.
Anyone else just feel like a waste in a vehicle? Sorry... but have you not herd DUST is the PS3 version of TANK WARS Tanks are not OP. They are just pretty hard to kill. With a little group effort, and not a whole lot of that even, they die pretty easily.
That is the problem. You need group effort to take out 1 tank, while a tank can take out a group with no effort. Not really balanced...... Especially when I put 3 proto av grenades and 10 REs into one and it doesn't even get half the shield down.....
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Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.07.26 14:16:00 -
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Winscar Shinobi wrote:Dewie Cheecham wrote:ReGnUm DEl wrote:PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:Not that I don't think they have a place in the game, just don't ask me to drive or be your gunner. I feel i'm more useful running around with a gun.
Anyone else just feel like a waste in a vehicle? Sorry... but have you not herd DUST is the PS3 version of TANK WARS Tanks are not OP. They are just pretty hard to kill. With a little group effort, and not a whole lot of that even, they die pretty easily. That is the problem. You need group effort to take out 1 tank, while a tank can take out a group with no effort. Not really balanced...... Especially when I put 3 proto av grenades and 10 REs into one and it doesn't even get half the shield down.....
If you put THAT much down, it WILL die. 5 RE's do about 10k damage, a Sagaris have an EHP of 15k it is said.
And do you really think it is reasonable that one guy in a 20k suit, with barely a million SP should be able to kill a 250K+ ISK tank where the driver had to spend 10million SP or more that easily?
Remember the tanks have shield/armour repeirers on. So unless you deliver that much firepower in one go, it will survive. Btw, don't get used to your RE's They are getting fixed, so they are no longer a poor mans, no skill AV hand grenades. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.07.26 14:28:00 -
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5 RE do not do 10K damage |
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STB-stlcarlos989 EV
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
936
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Posted - 2012.07.26 14:31:00 -
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I think the OP was stating that a skilled killer is more useful to the team on the ground killing and taking objectives rather than sitting in a tank. Which is why I stay out of tanks, anyone that can consistently put up 20+ kills with a gun should not be a vehicle gunner. |
PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
781
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Posted - 2012.07.26 14:49:00 -
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STB-stlcarlos989 EV wrote:I think the OP was stating that a skilled killer is more useful to the team on the ground killing and taking objectives rather than sitting in a tank. Which is why I stay out of tanks, anyone that can consistently put up 20+ kills with a gun should not be a vehicle gunner.
Thanks Carlos.
I had a dropship pilot yell at me the other day because I didn't want to gun for him. I told him I'm more useful running around with my AR then I would be flying as a gunner.
Dude responds "pffft good luck getting kills"
I don't care how easy or hard it is to take down a tank rather I'm looking for people who share this sentiment.
The sentiment of "I'll go 30-1 without your stupid turret. let someone who is more vulnerable get in that vehicle" |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.07.26 14:56:00 -
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STB-stlcarlos989 EV wrote:I think the OP was stating that a skilled killer is more useful to the team on the ground killing and taking objectives rather than sitting in a tank. Which is why I stay out of tanks, anyone that can consistently put up 20+ kills with a gun should not be a vehicle gunner.
No. tanks are not being used as they should, because AV weapons kill us too fast if we do.
DEFENCE = Mobile artillery = having to stand your ground and protect an objective while it is being taken. IF a tanks does that, a forge gun or a swarm launcer kill us very fast, ergo tanks are being relegated to rolling infantry, and trust me, that is only fun for so long.
First off, most AV weapons take no skill, or very little of it. Second, they are either overpowered, or the tanks are under armoured. A standing tank is soon a dead tank. |
STB-stlcarlos989 EV
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
936
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Posted - 2012.07.26 15:03:00 -
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PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:STB-stlcarlos989 EV wrote:I think the OP was stating that a skilled killer is more useful to the team on the ground killing and taking objectives rather than sitting in a tank. Which is why I stay out of tanks, anyone that can consistently put up 20+ kills with a gun should not be a vehicle gunner. Thanks Carlos. I had a dropship pilot yell at me the other day because I didn't want to gun for him. I told him I'm more useful running around with my AR then I would be flying as a gunner. Dude responds "pffft good luck getting kills" I don't care how easy or hard it is to take down a tank rather I'm looking for people who share this sentiment. The sentiment of "I'll go 30-1 without your stupid turret. let someone who is more vulnerable get in that vehicle"
No problem, just helping add perspective. |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.07.26 15:12:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:STB-stlcarlos989 EV wrote:I think the OP was stating that a skilled killer is more useful to the team on the ground killing and taking objectives rather than sitting in a tank. Which is why I stay out of tanks, anyone that can consistently put up 20+ kills with a gun should not be a vehicle gunner. No. tanks are not being used as they should, because AV weapons kill us too fast if we do. DEFENCE = Mobile artillery = having to stand your ground and protect an objective while it is being taken. IF a tanks does that, a forge gun or a swarm launcer kill us very fast, ergo tanks are being relegated to rolling infantry, and trust me, that is only fun for so long. First off, most AV weapons take no skill, or very little of it. Second, they are either overpowered, or the tanks are under armoured. A standing tank is soon a dead tank. AV weapons are not overpowered.
The AV weapons do that much damage because of how overpowered the deathtanks are.
It balances itself out.
If you want to camp in an overpowered tank then you are going to die to overpowered AV weapons. Get over it. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.07.26 15:21:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:AV weapons are not overpowered. The AV weapons do that much damage because of how overpowered the deathtanks are. It balances itself out. If you want to camp in an overpowered tank then you are going to die to overpowered AV weapons. Get over it.
No it does not. and I've been on both sides of the equation. Killing tanks are far too easy, especially if you have a proto gun and damage mods.
And allow me to repeat what I've been saying all along:
It does not make sense that a HANDHELD weapon can do more DPS than a main gun on a tank. IF they can make a handheld gun that powerful, why not mount it on the tank as well? Trus me, non Caldari tank drivers would love the splash damage of the forge gun. |
Needless Sacermendor
98
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Posted - 2012.07.26 15:27:00 -
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I love how any thread that even remotely mentions tanks or turrets or AV rapidly devolves into an I'll kill your tank before your tank kills me ! Lmao, personally standing on both sides of the fence, the tank / AV argument is completely irrelevant at the moment since vehicles have been seeded into testing for free and ease, resulting in a large scale influx of prototype AV fits.
This build has given everyone the opportunity to try out the vehicles and the anti-vehicle tactics while giving CCP a lot of data they can use for fine tuning balances of both existing and that of future other race vehicles and possibly even different AV weaponry optIons. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.07.26 16:07:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:5 RE do not do 10K damage
Actually, now that I looked, we have no idea how much they do. I mistook them for the non standard AV grenade, which DO make in excess of 2k HP damage per blast.
But the RE damage is not stated. Anywhere.
What they DO have though, is a 500 meter blast radius.
FIVE HUNDRED METERS?????? |
STB-stlcarlos989 EV
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
936
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Posted - 2012.07.26 16:13:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:5 RE do not do 10K damage Actually, now that I looked, we have no idea how much they do. I mistook them for the non standard AV grenade, which DO make in excess of 2k HP damage per blast. But the RE damage is not stated. Anywhere. What they DO have though, is a 500 meter blast radius. FIVE HUNDRED METERS??????
LOL, I believe someone at CCP put the decimal in the wrong spot. |
Jak Teston
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
99
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Posted - 2012.07.26 16:20:00 -
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I look at it this way: If I think a particular tank is being a nuisance I switch to my AV load-out until the tank either pops or its driver decides to run away like the sissy he is (he's the one bringing 300k ISK of armor and guns to a fight against 10k dropsuits). If he thinks I'm being a nuisance he always has the option to switch to his anti-infantry load-out and come after me. So there's always balance for anyone looking for balance. Just don't expect you scissor to beat both rock and paper. |
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