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Dewie Cheecham
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Posted - 2012.07.26 13:15:00 -
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ReGnUm DEl wrote:PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:Not that I don't think they have a place in the game, just don't ask me to drive or be your gunner. I feel i'm more useful running around with a gun.
Anyone else just feel like a waste in a vehicle? Sorry... but have you not herd DUST is the PS3 version of TANK WARS
Tanks are not OP. They are just pretty hard to kill. With a little group effort, and not a whole lot of that even, they die pretty easily. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.26 13:21:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:Not that I don't think they have a place in the game, just don't ask me to drive or be your gunner. I feel i'm more useful running around with a gun.
Anyone else just feel like a waste in a vehicle? Every time I jump in a tank I think to myself "wait a minute I can run faster then this'. Then I jump out. I will let the people with no gun game sit in the tanks. 
And I'll let the people with no tank skills and abilities run around, playing cannon fodder. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.26 13:29:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:Dewie Cheecham wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:Not that I don't think they have a place in the game, just don't ask me to drive or be your gunner. I feel i'm more useful running around with a gun.
Anyone else just feel like a waste in a vehicle? Every time I jump in a tank I think to myself "wait a minute I can run faster then this'. Then I jump out. I will let the people with no gun game sit in the tanks. And I'll let the people with no tank skills and abilities run around, playing cannon fodder. You don't need tank skills to kill someone with a tank. Ive tried. You need gun game and skill to kill someone with a gun.
Militia tanks don't count. And I am hoping that they will fix the current bug that allows unskilled players to enter vehicles.
That said, it does take skill to survive in a tank. And even then we can fail, partially because of mistakes, partially because of bugs, and partially because infantry DO cooperate at times. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.26 14:16:00 -
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Winscar Shinobi wrote:Dewie Cheecham wrote:ReGnUm DEl wrote:PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:Not that I don't think they have a place in the game, just don't ask me to drive or be your gunner. I feel i'm more useful running around with a gun.
Anyone else just feel like a waste in a vehicle? Sorry... but have you not herd DUST is the PS3 version of TANK WARS Tanks are not OP. They are just pretty hard to kill. With a little group effort, and not a whole lot of that even, they die pretty easily. That is the problem. You need group effort to take out 1 tank, while a tank can take out a group with no effort. Not really balanced...... Especially when I put 3 proto av grenades and 10 REs into one and it doesn't even get half the shield down.....
If you put THAT much down, it WILL die. 5 RE's do about 10k damage, a Sagaris have an EHP of 15k it is said.
And do you really think it is reasonable that one guy in a 20k suit, with barely a million SP should be able to kill a 250K+ ISK tank where the driver had to spend 10million SP or more that easily?
Remember the tanks have shield/armour repeirers on. So unless you deliver that much firepower in one go, it will survive.
Btw, don't get used to your RE's They are getting fixed, so they are no longer a poor mans, no skill AV hand grenades. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.26 14:56:00 -
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STB-stlcarlos989 EV wrote:I think the OP was stating that a skilled killer is more useful to the team on the ground killing and taking objectives rather than sitting in a tank. Which is why I stay out of tanks, anyone that can consistently put up 20+ kills with a gun should not be a vehicle gunner.
No. tanks are not being used as they should, because AV weapons kill us too fast if we do.
DEFENCE = Mobile artillery = having to stand your ground and protect an objective while it is being taken. IF a tanks does that, a forge gun or a swarm launcer kill us very fast, ergo tanks are being relegated to rolling infantry, and trust me, that is only fun for so long.
First off, most AV weapons take no skill, or very little of it. Second, they are either overpowered, or the tanks are under armoured. A standing tank is soon a dead tank. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.26 15:21:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:AV weapons are not overpowered. The AV weapons do that much damage because of how overpowered the deathtanks are.  It balances itself out. If you want to camp in an overpowered tank then you are going to die to overpowered AV weapons. Get over it.
No it does not. and I've been on both sides of the equation. Killing tanks are far too easy, especially if you have a proto gun and damage mods.
And allow me to repeat what I've been saying all along:
It does not make sense that a HANDHELD weapon can do more DPS than a main gun on a tank. IF they can make a handheld gun that powerful, why not mount it on the tank as well?
Trus me, non Caldari tank drivers would love the splash damage of the forge gun. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.07.26 16:07:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:5 RE do not do 10K damage
Actually, now that I looked, we have no idea how much they do. I mistook them for the non standard AV grenade, which DO make in excess of 2k HP damage per blast.
But the RE damage is not stated. Anywhere.
What they DO have though, is a 500 meter blast radius.
FIVE HUNDRED METERS?????? |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.26 16:28:00 -
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Jak Teston wrote:I look at it this way:
If I think a particular tank is being a nuisance I switch to my AV load-out until the tank either pops or its driver decides to run away like the sissy he is (he's the one bringing 300k ISK of armor and guns to a fight against 10k dropsuits). If he thinks I'm being a nuisance he always has the option to switch to his anti-infantry load-out and come after me. So there's always balance for anyone looking for balance. Just don't expect you scissor to beat both rock and paper.
You know what Jak? Calling tank driver sissies for doing the only thing they can to save their tank, go for cover, is not constructive. And who's the sissy for not being ballsy enough to actually take a risk?
Let me guess. you are also one of those A******* who then turn arousd calling tank drivers idiots for just "sitting there, dying"?
Never mind. I've given up pleasing idiots. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.26 16:56:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Because hiding in 17k of hp with the ability to regen like 5k is what people with balls do. Take a 100K assault/logi loadout girl, that's a risk. Because any tank can 1-2 shot me. But Helmar help you if you ever leave your tank ;)
(I don't mean this post to come across sexist, we all know Jenza has mad balls lol)
I drive a Surya. it does NOT have 17k EHP. Neither does the Sagaris, unless it fits every ounce of CPU and power on shield tanking, with very little left for guns.
I think my EHP is a little under 10k actually. And if I don't manade to coax my armour repairer to work in time, a Proto Forge Gun will kill it is three shots (one did today) The armour repairer activation glitched. Again. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.07.26 17:18:00 -
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VigSniper101 wrote:Dewie Cheecham wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:5 RE do not do 10K damage Actually, now that I looked, we have no idea how much they do. I mistook them for the non standard AV grenade, which DO make in excess of 2k HP damage per blast. But the RE damage is not stated. Anywhere. What they DO have though, is a 500 meter blast radius.
FIVE HUNDRED METERS?????? Its more like 5.
Check the attributes on RE's. it does say 500m :)
And I agree, it is probably a typo. |
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