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Mr TamiyaCowboy
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.20 15:38:00 -
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Any chance rolling out the Solo player side ? getting bored just being a meatshield, insta killed etc etc camped by retards in tanks etc etc. squashed by kiddies flying dropships yadda yadda yadda
give us some NCP stuff please, or is Dust514 a CO-OP only game ?
maybe solo player mode will help with my lag problems, the rubbish control system the gunnery aim thats more wild that 2 hot chicks naked in a hottub.
i will only die so many times before i delete/sell a game i find boring and none fun, dust is becoming one of those games CCP |
tarbleaune
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.20 15:40:00 -
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Why would you join a BETA ???? |
Drake Lyons
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.20 15:40:00 -
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Well...it's an MMOFPS.
MMO means Massively Multiplayer Online...
So I imagine the single player side of things will be pretty limited... |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2012.07.20 15:52:00 -
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Did you even look at what you signed up for?
Seriously?
If there's single player, we've been lied to... |
Sephoran Griffith
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
96
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Posted - 2012.07.20 15:54:00 -
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Mr TamiyaCowboy wrote:
Any chance rolling out the Solo player side ? getting bored just being a meatshield, insta killed etc etc camped by retards in tanks etc etc. squashed by kiddies flying dropships yadda yadda yadda
give us some NCP stuff please, or is Dust514 a CO-OP only game ?
maybe solo player mode will help with my lag problems, the rubbish control system the gunnery aim thats more wild that 2 hot chicks naked in a hottub.
i will only die so many times before i delete/sell a game i find boring and none fun, dust is becoming one of those games CCP
I heard Gamestop is giving good trade in credit for DUST 514. You should call them. |
Sohkar Adelis
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
61
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Posted - 2012.07.20 15:55:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Did you even look at what you signed up for?
Seriously?
If there's single player, we've been lied to...
LOL unless this game wants to be an exact replica of DC Online, there should be some semblance of singleplayer short story.
To at least give us a sexy backdrop of the incredible massive storyline that is EVE of course.
3-4 pointless missions and awesome cutscenes would satiate me. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.07.20 15:56:00 -
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>Joins beta for an MMO >Wants single player missions to avoid playing with other players wat |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.07.20 16:10:00 -
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Sohkar Adelis wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Did you even look at what you signed up for?
Seriously?
If there's single player, we've been lied to... LOL unless this game wants to be an exact replica of DC Online, there should be some semblance of singleplayer short story. To at least give us a sexy backdrop of the incredible massive storyline that is EVE of course. 3-4 pointless missions and awesome cutscenes would satiate me. Name one MMO that has single player content, and I'll name one that doesn't. I can guarantee you'll run out first.
Content that CAN be done solo, but also allows for co-op play doesn't count. By the way, the "Rogue Drones" mode will probably be playable solo... although that will probably be an incredibly stupid idea... |
Grit Breather
BetaMax.
660
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Posted - 2012.07.20 16:17:00 -
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I think the "solo" part of Dust will be (well, if you can even call it solo) target practice in a corp arena once those are released. So sure, come play target practice as long as you want! Just keep in mind you'll have to pay a corp for your time doing it. |
Shadoe Wolf
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
80
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Posted - 2012.07.20 16:17:00 -
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I think that the rogue drones will be good for new players. Will give them a chance to get a feel for how this game works rather than starting in a spawn camp match and rage quitting. |
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Ferocitan
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Posted - 2012.07.20 16:20:00 -
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Solo play is when you get a character creator to look at half nude women character. You can figure out the solo part in that ;)
-This msg is not good for anything- |
Sohkar Adelis
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
61
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Posted - 2012.07.20 16:26:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Sohkar Adelis wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Did you even look at what you signed up for?
Seriously?
If there's single player, we've been lied to... LOL unless this game wants to be an exact replica of DC Online, there should be some semblance of singleplayer short story. To at least give us a sexy backdrop of the incredible massive storyline that is EVE of course. 3-4 pointless missions and awesome cutscenes would satiate me. Name one MMO that has single player content, and I'll name one that doesn't. I can guarantee you'll run out first. Content that CAN be done solo, but also allows for co-op play doesn't count. By the way, the "Rogue Drones" mode will probably be playable solo... although that will probably be an incredibly stupid idea...
not to be mean bud, but the rules of what an MMO is changes when it comes to console games.
COD ( has the larget multiplayer base in gaming history) I really don't need to bother typing anymore as COD has a very expansive and expressive solo campaign in every damn game. |
Iceyburnz
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Posted - 2012.07.20 16:28:00 -
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Play a sniper? |
Grit Breather
BetaMax.
660
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Posted - 2012.07.20 16:30:00 -
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Sohkar Adelis wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Sohkar Adelis wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Did you even look at what you signed up for?
Seriously?
If there's single player, we've been lied to... LOL unless this game wants to be an exact replica of DC Online, there should be some semblance of singleplayer short story. To at least give us a sexy backdrop of the incredible massive storyline that is EVE of course. 3-4 pointless missions and awesome cutscenes would satiate me. Name one MMO that has single player content, and I'll name one that doesn't. I can guarantee you'll run out first. Content that CAN be done solo, but also allows for co-op play doesn't count. By the way, the "Rogue Drones" mode will probably be playable solo... although that will probably be an incredibly stupid idea... not to be mean bud, but the rules of what an MMO is changes when it comes to console games. COD ( has the larget multiplayer base in gaming history) I really don't need to bother typing anymore as COD has a very expansive and expressive solo campaign in every damn game. CoD, BF3 or whatever else other example you want to bring don't live in a persistent world. They aren't tied into any other games and aren't constantly changing due to PLAYER ACTIONS.
So no. Your example is invalid. And btw, they aren't good examples of an MMO. You want an example for an MMO, try World of Warcraft. While it's far from the same as EVE/Dust, it's the closest thing I can think of. |
jenza aranda
BetaMax.
1005
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Posted - 2012.07.20 16:33:00 -
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there will be a PvE mode. |
Sohkar Adelis
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
61
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Posted - 2012.07.20 16:33:00 -
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Grit Breather wrote:Sohkar Adelis wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Sohkar Adelis wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Did you even look at what you signed up for?
Seriously?
If there's single player, we've been lied to... LOL unless this game wants to be an exact replica of DC Online, there should be some semblance of singleplayer short story. To at least give us a sexy backdrop of the incredible massive storyline that is EVE of course. 3-4 pointless missions and awesome cutscenes would satiate me. Name one MMO that has single player content, and I'll name one that doesn't. I can guarantee you'll run out first. Content that CAN be done solo, but also allows for co-op play doesn't count. By the way, the "Rogue Drones" mode will probably be playable solo... although that will probably be an incredibly stupid idea... not to be mean bud, but the rules of what an MMO is changes when it comes to console games. COD ( has the larget multiplayer base in gaming history) I really don't need to bother typing anymore as COD has a very expansive and expressive solo campaign in every damn game. CoD, BF3 or whatever else other example you want to bring don't live in a persistent world. They aren't tied into any other games and aren't constantly changing due to PLAYER ACTIONS. So no. Your example is invalid. And btw, they aren't good examples of an MMO. You want an example for an MMO, try World of Warcraft. While it's far from the same as EVE/Dust, it's the closest thing I can think of.
the only MMO that really exists on a "console" is DC online, take a second and look up how crappy a game that is.
every MMO you can think of exists on platforms outside of consoles. Consoles by nature are usually single player non-MMO games, as you like to call them.
Hell even Starhawk had a crappy single player campaign to expand its player base ( for those that don't know the game was designed to be a sole multiplayer game, but due to poor feedback they added a short campaign)
Good games evolve as do players. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.07.20 16:34:00 -
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A Solo Mission Campaign using the gear you have earned in multiplayer to beat it? That I'd pay to DLC and imo it would be a perfectly acceptable DLC-able content if its made high quality enough with good story, voice, and game engine powered cinmatics/scenes. |
Grit Breather
BetaMax.
660
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Posted - 2012.07.20 16:39:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:A Solo Mission Campaign using the gear you have earned in multiplayer to beat it? That I'd pay to DLC and imo it would be a perfectly acceptable DLC-able content if its made high quality enough with good story, voice, and game engine powered cinmatics/scenes. In EVE there are many "solo" missions and even a slight storyline. That's when you play PvE and not PvP. For those who don't know EVE, what you basically do is fly around looking for agents and then they give you missions. These missions earn you ISK and credit with the corporation that agent belongs to. The more credit you have, the higher up an agent you can speak with and the more profitable the missions you get are.
That will also exist in Dust in one way or another. So if you want to call that a solo campaign, be my guest. |
Mr TamiyaCowboy
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
121
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Posted - 2012.07.20 17:00:00 -
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tarbleaune wrote:Why would you join a BETA ????
because my hard earned cash goes towards making dust, and as a very long term eve player i care what goes on, and how it will affect my life in eve-online. some idiot upsets you in dust be damn sure he has some more might guns at hand in space ready to bring the pain , and plenty of isk to throw are just for squits n giggless
also 7+yrs playing eve one should have a break from the norm and try other things. why did you join a beta ?
not all of us are testosterone filled teenagers with a penance to camping and c*** so best way to get away from that pony and trap is to do stuff solo.
and before you pipe up more, in eve i have done nearly all, dust was/is an extention to that |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.07.20 17:04:00 -
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Sohkar Adelis wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Sohkar Adelis wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Did you even look at what you signed up for?
Seriously?
If there's single player, we've been lied to... LOL unless this game wants to be an exact replica of DC Online, there should be some semblance of singleplayer short story. To at least give us a sexy backdrop of the incredible massive storyline that is EVE of course. 3-4 pointless missions and awesome cutscenes would satiate me. Name one MMO that has single player content, and I'll name one that doesn't. I can guarantee you'll run out first. Content that CAN be done solo, but also allows for co-op play doesn't count. By the way, the "Rogue Drones" mode will probably be playable solo... although that will probably be an incredibly stupid idea... not to be mean bud, but the rules of what an MMO is changes when it comes to console games. COD ( has the larget multiplayer base in gaming history) I really don't need to bother typing anymore as COD has a very expansive and expressive solo campaign in every damn game. Not to be mean, bud, but the definition of MMO doesn't change by platform. Proper MMO gameplay doesn't happen very much on consoles, but that doesn't mean any game with lots of players automatically qualifies. If you WANT to limit yourself to console games only, and actually use a legitimate definition of MMO, you have Tom Clancy's Endwar with its Theater Of War online mode that counted as MMO with single player as well. On the other hand, I have DCUO, Free Realms, and arguably Playstation Home, as well as the few browser-based ones that actually run in the PS3 browser.
But just for fun, I'll play along with your delusion, and pretend that you can actually count CoD as being MMO in spite of how obviously failtastic that attempt at logic was. Because most MMO expansions result in more change than most CoD sequels, I think it's fair to treat the series' iterative nature as making it a single example with a series of expansions. As a result, I only need one example to counter that, as per my previous challenge to you. DCUO has already been brought up, so lets run with that. It's your turn. Good luck. |
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EnIgMa99
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
219
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Posted - 2012.07.20 17:07:00 -
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i wouldnt be opposed to single player, like in an expantion or something. I want a complete multiplayer and coop first, and of course null sec take over shizm. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.07.20 17:10:00 -
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Mr TamiyaCowboy wrote:tarbleaune wrote:Why would you join a BETA ???? because my hard earned cash goes towards making dust, and as a very long term eve player i care what goes on, and how it will affect my life in eve-online. also 7+yrs playing eve one should have a break from the norm and try other things. why did you join a beta ? not all of us are testosterone filled teenagers with a penance to camping and c*** so best way to get away from that pony and trap is to do stuff solo. and before you pipe up more, in eve i have done nearly all, dust was/is an extention to that So you play EVE... which means you know what MMO means, which means... how did you miss that this is the same thing?
Sure you can go off alone, in EVE or DUST... but there isn't any scripted single player content, just content that CAN be done alone if you really want to. |
Fuma Centuri
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
107
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Posted - 2012.07.20 17:14:00 -
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Drake Lyons wrote:Well...it's an MMOFPS.
MMO means Massively Multiplayer Online...
To be fair. If this beta is an MMO, then call of duty is also an MMOFPS because random people play matches and get persistent exp for playing.... |
Mr TamiyaCowboy
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
121
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Posted - 2012.07.20 17:19:00 -
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here is another point
MW3 and the likes have a solo mode, to try out shizzle and likes, get used to controls and everything the game kinda offers. if not other shooters give you a training ground yadda yadda yadda, its solo player mode, its just person V enviroment (PVE). with progressive states of higher AI ( if you can call it that lol)
hey ccp devs, throw in some sleeper AI to a PVE mode ( you know it makes good sense and some funny shizzle tears like it did on TQ)
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The Rohypnol Kid
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.07.20 17:22:00 -
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Turn coms chat off, voiala solo player |
Sohkar Adelis
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
61
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Posted - 2012.07.20 17:23:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote: Not to be mean, bud, but the definition of MMO doesn't change by platform. Proper MMO gameplay doesn't happen very much on consoles, but that doesn't mean any game with lots of players automatically qualifies. If you WANT to limit yourself to console games only, and actually use a legitimate definition of MMO, you have Tom Clancy's Endwar with its Theater Of War online mode that counted as MMO with single player as well. On the other hand, I have DCUO, Free Realms, and arguably Playstation Home, as well as the few browser-based ones that actually run in the PS3 browser.
But just for fun, I'll play along with your delusion, and pretend that you can actually count CoD as being MMO in spite of how obviously failtastic that attempt at logic was. Because most MMO expansions result in more change than most CoD sequels, I think it's fair to treat the series' iterative nature as making it a single example with a series of expansions. As a result, I only need one example to counter that, as per my previous challenge to you. DCUO has already been brought up, so lets run with that. It's your turn. Good luck.
Well aren't you a fun character, let my simplify this a bit better.
a semblance of single player works wonders for a game that is already specced to break barriers. CCP no doubt has alot riding on whether this game becomes legendary or dies in an alley. As stated above EVE already has small single player missions of sorts. You so easily scoff at the idea of a small campaign that would have no bearing to the main game simply because its breaks your 'tradition' of an MMO. Hell, even World of Warcraft is based on single player crap (minus raiding and PVP of course).
I seriously hope you do not speak for all MMO players. You are quite loudly refusing to evolve simply because EVE has nothing that is single player worthy. I doubt you would even allow a single mission simply to set the stage for the sheer magnitude that is the EVE universe.Every good game in history has a sh*tload of story to it. Dust should aswell, how quickly will this game become dry if we can only shoot guy #5 and reclaim planet #7 for the 43rd time this week?
Story makes good games - we need to see that in the game to a fashion. Not read/watch it outside of it.
If your saying that Dust shoudn't have these things, then perhaps my time and money is best spent on other games.
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Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
153
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Posted - 2012.07.20 17:25:00 -
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Mr TamiyaCowboy wrote: because my hard earned cash goes towards making dust, and as a very long term eve player i care what goes on, and how it will affect my life in eve-online. some idiot upsets you in dust be damn sure he has some more might guns at hand in space ready to bring the pain , and plenty of isk to throw are just for squits n giggless
also 7+yrs playing eve one should have a break from the norm and try other things. why did you join a beta ?
not all of us are testosterone filled teenagers with a penance to camping and c*** so best way to get away from that pony and trap is to do stuff solo.
and before you pipe up more, in eve i have done nearly all, dust was/is an extention to that
No, DUST is not an extension of EVE Online. It's a standalone game. You can play DUST without ever having to interact with EVE players (in highsec). It is a standalone game, with integration into the same universe (and as both will be MMO's, there will be interactions between the two).
Also, CCP have no obligation to provide you with a PVE mode. While I understand there are plans to make a PVE mode, this is THEIR beta (for you to test, NOT to have fun), and the best way to test their game is by having multiplayer PVP maps. That tests balance, controls, and general gameplay.
Frankly, PvE won't be a very large part of the game, so they won't be too concerned with it.
Finally, anyone who's comparing this to MW is, frankly, idiotic. They are in no way (apart from the FPS part) similar. Yes, MW is online. Yes, it's multiplayer. But it's not massive. It's limited to, what, 12 players on each team? DUST will have 48 player maps, and will expand to more. That's what makes DUST, and not COD, an MMO. |
Solarisjock
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2012.07.20 17:28:00 -
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Sohkar Adelis wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote: Not to be mean, bud, but the definition of MMO doesn't change by platform. Proper MMO gameplay doesn't happen very much on consoles, but that doesn't mean any game with lots of players automatically qualifies. If you WANT to limit yourself to console games only, and actually use a legitimate definition of MMO, you have Tom Clancy's Endwar with its Theater Of War online mode that counted as MMO with single player as well. On the other hand, I have DCUO, Free Realms, and arguably Playstation Home, as well as the few browser-based ones that actually run in the PS3 browser.
But just for fun, I'll play along with your delusion, and pretend that you can actually count CoD as being MMO in spite of how obviously failtastic that attempt at logic was. Because most MMO expansions result in more change than most CoD sequels, I think it's fair to treat the series' iterative nature as making it a single example with a series of expansions. As a result, I only need one example to counter that, as per my previous challenge to you. DCUO has already been brought up, so lets run with that. It's your turn. Good luck.
Well aren't you a fun character, let my simplify this a bit better. a semblance of single player works wonders for a game that is already specced to break barriers. CCP no doubt has alot riding on whether this game becomes legendary or dies in an alley. As stated above EVE already has small single player missions of sorts. You so easily scoff at the idea of a small campaign that would have no bearing to the main game simply because its breaks your 'tradition' of an MMO. Hell, even World of Warcraft is based on single player crap (minus raiding and PVP of course). I seriously hope you do not speak for all MMO players. You are quite loudly refusing to evolve simply because EVE has nothing that is single player worthy. I doubt you would even allow a single mission simply to set the stage for the sheer magnitude that is the EVE universe.Every good game in history has a sh*tload of story to it. Dust should aswell, how quickly will this game become dry if we can only shoot guy #5 and reclaim planet #7 for the 43rd time this week? Story makes good games - we need to see that in the game to a fashion. Not read/watch it outside of it. If your saying that Dust shoudn't have these things, then perhaps my time and money is best spent on other games.
key thing is that in the "solo" player missions of EVE, you are solo by choice, not world, you can be innocently sitting there shooting rats, when boosh, a ninja salvager warps in and starts salvaging your ****, you shout at him, and eventually you shoot him cause he stole something. 30 seconds later his buddy warps in and kills you, they salvage the rest of your wrecks, take your frozen corpse, and leave. that is the solo part of EVE.
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Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
153
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Posted - 2012.07.20 17:30:00 -
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Sohkar Adelis wrote:Dust should aswell, how quickly will this game become dry if we can only shoot guy #5 and reclaim planet #7 for the 43rd time this week?
Oh dear. Oh, how you completely fail to grasp the concept of the integration with EVE.
There will be a story. Whether you join a merc corp or a corp in a sov holding alliance, you WILL be fighting in a war. Join the goons? You'll want to fight for your territory. You'll fight, and in doing so, will generate a story AND change the course of EVE. For example, AAA and Goons get into a war again. Both hire mercs to fight over planets, but the Goons bribe the AAA mercs to not fight, and cede control of x number of planets to the Goons. That puts AAA on the backfoot, since they won't have anyone on the ground fighting for them.
This could lead to the downfall of an empire. What greater story do you want? This is the same in EVE. Player-generated story, with massively addictive goodness.
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Sohkar Adelis
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
61
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Posted - 2012.07.20 17:35:00 -
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Laheon wrote: Oh dear. Oh, how you completely fail to grasp the concept of the integration with EVE.
There will be a story. Whether you join a merc corp or a corp in a sov holding alliance, you WILL be fighting in a war. Join the goons? You'll want to fight for your territory. You'll fight, and in doing so, will generate a story AND change the course of EVE. For example, AAA and Goons get into a war again. Both hire mercs to fight over planets, but the Goons bribe the AAA mercs to not fight, and cede control of x number of planets to the Goons. That puts AAA on the backfoot, since they won't have anyone on the ground fighting for them.
This could lead to the downfall of an empire. What greater story do you want? This is the same in EVE. Player-generated story, with massively addictive goodness.
Is that a story? sounds more like a line of text in a mass drive a millions of similar texts. Thats not a story its a declaration that something that happened last week, happened again.
If this game is goina be exactly like EVE in that capacity. Then I better break out some old games and actually delve into some real storyline that changes and doesn't repeat itself into oblivion. |
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