Good, tanks are way too cheap this build and need to be destroyed

mine costs around 300k. You think that is cheap?

That is 5 of my dropsuits so yea and btw next build a bare tank is 1.2 mil.

That is 5 of my dropsuits so yea and btw next build a bare tank is 1.2 mil.

WTF IS SHOOTING ME??! WHERE IS IT?!?!

exactly. unless you happen to look right at it, you have no indication that there is a forge gun, or even where. You can hear them if they are close, but that is it, there are no direction indicator hinting where you need to focus your fire.
At all.

Swarm launchers I can usually deal with. I take off at full tilt, try to get behind cover, and outrun the missiles long enough to recover enough shield to take the hit.

Forge guns, especially if there are 2 or 3, I just die with little to no warning, and little to no way to avoid the damage.

True, unless you or your two other gunners spot the slow lumbering heavies with your combined ability to very easily have a 360 degree field of view then of course they are dead in 1 or 2 hits, but other than that you have absolutely no way of avoiding forge guns in you tank that is WAY FASTER than a heavy. Also a Sagaris Tank user told me he had effectively over 10000 total shield and armor and 50% reduction in damage taken, huh that would make a single assault forge gun do 630 damage I wonder how many shots it would take to kill that tank. I guess Needing 15+ shots to kill a tank definitely would not give them enough to time to react, I guess they need to get beefed up, hey CCP give tanks more armor, sheld, and speed the forge guns are way too OP towards them.

How much damage they do is not the issue. The issue is how identifiable the damage is.

There should be a clear indication of the direction of the damage, and the source of the damage.

The forge gun should leave a clearly visible trail.

It SHOULD take multiple hits and coordination to take down heavy vehicles.

There should be other methods for dealing with tanks like mines and tank traps to help take down monster Sagaris.

Pyramid

(I don't know have many high powered slots prototype heavy suits have)

Another example of damage notification failing is how the only way to tell between friendly fire and enemy fire is to look at your health bar.

[quote=Umallon Macross]
WTF IS SHOOTING ME??! WHERE IS IT?!?!

Prototype Heavy suit(for isk) had 3 medium slot in previous build. Right now it's hard to tell exactly wat % bonus dmg mods are giving because they have penalyty(no clue how big one, but for sure from 3 mods you can get less dmg then 30%).

That won't help once friendly fire is enabled though....

True, unless you or your two other gunners spot the slow lumbering heavies with your combined ability to very easily have a 360 degree field of view then of course they are dead in 1 or 2 hits, but other than that you have absolutely no way of avoiding forge guns in you tank that is WAY FASTER than a heavy. Also a Sagaris Tank user told me he had effectively over 10000 total shield and armor and 50% reduction in damage taken, huh that would make a single assault forge gun do 630 damage I wonder how many shots it would take to kill that tank. I guess Needing 15+ shots to kill a tank definitely would not give them enough to time to react, I guess they need to get beefed up, hey CCP give tanks more armor, sheld, and speed the forge guns are way too OP towards them.

as said in the subject.

The only indication a tank gets when hit by a forge gun is that the shield or armor go down.
Not even the red flash indicating that you got hit.

.....you mean you don't watch your health bar constantly while driving a tank? I bet you get blown up a lot huh...

So there is a trail I see forge shots fly through the air all the time. Anyway a prototype forge gun is 1512 damage but with weaponry V and the operation V and I guess 2 complex damage mods (I don't know have many high powered slots prototype heavy suits have) It would to 2250 damage but with that 50% damage reduction he had it would be 1125. That would give him 9 SHOTS to try to find the prototype forge gun, I think that is plenty of time even without hit direction indicators to find the culprit.

Well, what can I say-- you're wrong :)
Experience has shown that much of the time it is nearly impossible to find the forge gunner.

Mind you, you can't even look around quickly in the tank, so looking about to find him isn't easy in the first place, and a good toon will hide when the turret is pointed towards him.

Ignoring issues of game balance, there is a bug here. The bug is that there is not indication of the direction from which a vehicle is shot when being shot by a forge gun.

Pyramid

They really need to balance the ISK rewards for dropships vs tanks

A Sagaris will easily pay for itself once or twice over, so if you lose one or even 2 you can still break even.

I can afford 1 Eryx per match.

If 4 guys salvo me with swarms, or if a couple of forge gunners whose WEAPON TRAILS I CANT SEE take potshots at me, thats it. I'm useless for the rest of the match because I'm fully specced for dropships, and I can only afford one per game.

Its either that or I take a complete support role, and avoid combat at all costs. But of course then I get NO rewards at all.

*COUGH* Say what??

once or twice over?

If lucky, and you have a really good round, a fitted Marauder will set you back more than you earn that round if you lose it.

The Marauder hull itself is 65000 ISK this round, but in the previous build it was 120000 ISK. Full fittings easily add another 100K ISK, so please come down to reality. Marauders can afford losing their tanks no more than a top tier drop ship pilot can.

Another example of damage notification failing is how the only way to tell between friendly fire and enemy fire is to look at your health bar.