swarm launcher will never kill you solo unless he manages to come close enough (due to the trajectory it is REALLY CLOSE) and spam all rockets in your tanks flank. even if that happens the chance to kill you is still unlikely because you are faster then then dropsuit and can just drive away + the swarm launcher trajectory makes it really hard to actually hit. the lock on takes time thus with lock on you do not have enough dps to bring a sagaris down. you are really bad if that happens when you are at full shields.

you killed a bad fit and poorly driven sagaris? congratulations

properly fit sagaris shields will easily endure your lock on dps and repair alot of shields before the next volley hits. a well driven sagaris will also retreat for repairs. beside that, a well driven tank will stay back, close to an object, as soon as you shoot him he retreats and all your locked missiles will hit the object or he will kill your suit at range before you can actually fire.

if someone use a tank to rambo then he sucks, tanks should be used to zone infantry at range where they cant fight back effectively.

Congratulations. Wouldn't expect anything less from you. The Sagaris isn't as all powerful as you'd like to believe. They tried to retreat and repair, I just don't let them get that chance and a skilled demo man won't miss even with objects in his wake. Oh and FYI another "properly outfitted tank and well driven Sagaris" also dropped in about three shots after a quick double lob of AV grenades. That was one of the most satisfying.

congratulations you officially made your self look really stupid
more cool stories bro
how do you make your swarm launcher rockets magically fly around objects that is too far away to curve the trajectory?
how do you lob a grenade at a tank that is too far away?
how do you cover from a sniper headshot?
oh wait you cant. you are just pulling out phantasms our of your arse.
a skilled "demo" haha. you dont even know the concept of zoning in a FPS and you think you are skilled? the sooner you accept the fact that you killed the same noob in a fail fit over and over, the better for you.

Yep that sounds about right. I'm just going to go and keep killing those tanks you seem to have a complete love interest in.

what happened, are your out of "arguments", Mr. Skilled Demo? I show how to properly abuse the tanks abilities in a objective based gameplay by a simple concept called "zoning" (which obviously you dont know) and all you can do is to throw in this pathetic post? your credibility just crumbled into dust.

Yep you got me pretty much with your concepts and so forth 'bro'.

The tanks are fine.
When anti tank mines, flux grenades, and other things come into play you won't be going 20-0.

could you please tell me how those grenades and mines are useful when the tank driver sits back at range to have the whole battlefield in his sight thus he can shoot anyone that appears on his screen?

You seem disgruntled. I don't know what to tell you.

I kill well fit Sagaris and Surya tanks all the time.
As for them sitting there, once you put a couple 2000+ dmg rounds into them they usually pull up their skirts and run.

could you please tell me how those grenades and mines are useful when the tank driver sits back at range to have the whole battlefield in his sight thus he can shoot anyone that appears on his screen?

There are certain ways for a tank to remain nye indestructible... Hiding in the spawn behind a large obstacle with a huge field between you and all your enemies is one way... Congratulations you just described how to be a totally impenetrable and relatively useless Sagaris driver. Granted you give your team a nice staging area and all the opportunity in the world to spawn in safety this way, which is a perk, and one that I guess only a really expensive tank niche might fill, and I guess you could call that broken... Me personally since it does little to advance the role of the game i disagree...

On the split side, AS SOON as the drive actually moves into a position where he has any chance at all of actually helping take capture points, your strategy goes to ****. Fact is there are enough obstacles that with proper teamwork and scouting the opposing team can keep the area clear enough to set up so one demo guy can get behind the tank,. drop his AV grenades and do his locks on the tank from an angle where it has to TOTALLY retreat the area , and not just move behind its cover to survive... Now granted if your quick on your turret, and fast at recognizing what's going on, you still might be able to survive that scenario of perfect planning in a Sagaris, but it generally makes the odds about equal of him dying or you dying, and for a 1 on 1 scenario that's the best you can hope for against anything that cost 350,000 ISK.

Point is... I'm guessing the guy your criticizing can take out any Sagaris tanker who actually aids his team in capturing positions on a map... Maybe not the one who just sits in his spawn, but the useful ones, and that's all that really matters. Skill plays a part, but you saying "NUH UH EVERYONE YOU KILLED SUCKED!", is by far the worst argument I've heard on these threads thus far for why to nerf anything...

Does that mean they don't need to be nerfed? I didn't say that maybe they do, but I still hold that if tanks are nerfed so too should be Forge Guns and Swarm Launchers. and possibly AV grenades... Never mind how new weapons when introduced will effect the battlefield.

*Sigh*

Okay tad disgruntled, I will admit. Frankly maybe you're the Elite of the Sagaris Drivers.. If so and if there really is NO AV Merc in this game who can take you out, then maybe they need a nerf... I say maybe because your skill doesn't speak to the skill of all other drivers... I for one actually want to see you in a match and with hold judgement until then, but based on what Ive seen and the majority of those AV Mercs I've spoken to, who have reached prototype skill, its balanced fine...

Guess we'll just wait and see.

HAV's can't shoot straight up.

Dropships can shoot straight down.

When I see a hull down tank pickling off rounds from afar, I bring my happy little dropship over and get right on top of him and let my gunners go to work.

Without a supporting swarm launcher or second tank, they go down.

No need to nerf them, they have counters.

Depends, personally, I use the Surya (armor tanking version of the marauders). I've had some really heart-beating fights with Sagaris drivers, and i've had some who really are just terrible.
For example, I broke my record a on Wedsneday with a total of 3 sagaris kills and 2 madrugar kills, in one match. If i'm fighting a well fitted, well skilled sagaris, the fight tends to come down to the skin of teeth, with whoever can maneuver the better and who had support from their team. But I wouldn't exactly class them as OP, they cost alot of money to call into the battlefield, one lone guy running at you shouldn't be able to take you down to half health, oh, and if you're fighting a competent forge gun user or team of swarm launchers? You better be able to take them out quickly or back out of there as soon as possible.

i think all these epic tankers are making people think twice about spec'ing in to swarms or forge guns