DUST Search - Request: Compensation for paying to test the game.

Killface Rodeo wrote:

Commander Xtreme wrote:

Killface Rodeo wrote:

Quack Man wrote:

Why should you get anything extra? You didn't have to pay the $20.
You'll probably get whatever beta items the rest of us get, because we are all beta testers, no matter how we got in.

Well the 20 bucks I guess is the mercenary pack included with the closed beta access. This still feels ****** to me though. And yes I think anyone who paid SHOULD get something extra, because we are essentially paying to test their game. In the past testers got payed to test games, this is utter crap.

You would have a valid point, but we didn't HAVE to pay, nobody did. I paid, because I wanted to - I don't care if the Beta sucks, or if I will be addicted forever, I paid, accepted the terms and conditions and agreed to no refunds.
You made a conscious decision to put your money towards Beta access, regardless of what rumors were going around about PS+ players.
"because we are essentially paying to test their game" - that's not true either, Closed Beta = small numbers.
We're lucky CCP gave us the chance to pay to play it (and get DLC) - most closed Beta's are CLOSED, for sake of smaller numbers.

Lucky? You seriously think that? THEY NEED PEOPLE TO TEST THEIR GAME. They obviously don't have the resources for themselves. They need to see how the game will work in a natural environment. This is seriously where we are at as consumers? Where we should "feel lucky" for getting to pay to test an unfinished product?

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Killface Rodeo Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 7	Posted - 2012.07.04 16:22:00 - [1] - Quote I would like to know what sort of compensation you had in mind for the people that paid to get into your beta to ultimately test your game? I am already a PS+ member and a lot of PS+ members were under the impression that we would get free beta access. What will be made available upon release to those that shelled out 20 dollars to get in? This is already a huge slap in the face... paying to test a beta. It feels pretty ****** and sounds like it should be illegal in all honesty. I would like to know exactly how that money I spent will help me.
Paran Tadec Imperfects Negative-Feedback 902	Posted - 2012.07.04 16:23:00 - [2] - Quote I can have your stuff?
Quack Man Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 18	Posted - 2012.07.04 16:26:00 - [3] - Quote Why should you get anything extra? You didn't have to pay the $20. You'll probably get whatever beta items the rest of us get, because we are all beta testers, no matter how we got in.
Commander Xtreme Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 31	Posted - 2012.07.04 16:35:00 - [4] - Quote Quack Man wrote: Why should you get anything extra? You didn't have to pay the $20. You'll probably get whatever beta items the rest of us get, because we are all beta testers, no matter how we got in. EVE have loads of extra bonus for Beta/Collectors etc. I seem to remember a unique shuttle for some sort of collectors edition, i think it had 50m3 cargo. Regardless, I reckon we WILL get something for being such awesome Beta testers :D
jackbubu United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 24	Posted - 2012.07.04 16:42:00 - [5] - Quote Please point to where CCP said that PS+ members would have guaranteed acces, then complain again. if you bought the merc pack you will get compensation for that so idk what you are complaining about
Killface Rodeo Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 7	Posted - 2012.07.04 16:50:00 - [6] - Quote jackbubu wrote: Please point to where CCP said that PS+ members would have guaranteed acces, then complain again. if you bought the merc pack you will get compensation for that so idk what you are complaining about Did I ever say CCP? No, I didn't. This was one of the reasons to get a PS+ membership, one of their selling points was free beta access.
Quack Man Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 18	Posted - 2012.07.04 16:53:00 - [7] - Quote Killface Rodeo wrote: jackbubu wrote: Please point to where CCP said that PS+ members would have guaranteed acces, then complain again. if you bought the merc pack you will get compensation for that so idk what you are complaining about Did I ever say CCP? No, I didn't. This was one of the reasons to get a PS+ membership, one of their selling points was free beta access. Yes, but not for every beta there is. It is still up to the game companies to decide if they want their beta to be part of the PS+ program.
Killface Rodeo Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 7	Posted - 2012.07.04 16:54:00 - [8] - Quote Quack Man wrote: Why should you get anything extra? You didn't have to pay the $20. You'll probably get whatever beta items the rest of us get, because we are all beta testers, no matter how we got in. Well the 20 bucks I guess is the mercenary pack included with the closed beta access. This still feels ****** to me though. And yes I think anyone who paid SHOULD get something extra, because we are essentially paying to test their game. In the past testers got payed to test games, this is utter crap.
Commander Xtreme Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 31	Posted - 2012.07.04 16:56:00 - [9] - Quote Killface Rodeo wrote: Quack Man wrote: Why should you get anything extra? You didn't have to pay the $20. You'll probably get whatever beta items the rest of us get, because we are all beta testers, no matter how we got in. Well the 20 bucks I guess is the mercenary pack included with the closed beta access. This still feels ****** to me though. And yes I think anyone who paid SHOULD get something extra, because we are essentially paying to test their game. In the past testers got payed to test games, this is utter crap. You would have a valid point, but we didn't HAVE to pay, nobody did. I paid, because I wanted to - I don't care if the Beta sucks, or if I will be addicted forever, I paid, accepted the terms and conditions and agreed to no refunds. You made a conscious decision to put your money towards Beta access, regardless of what rumors were going around about PS+ players. "because we are essentially paying to test their game" - that's not true either, Closed Beta = small numbers. We're lucky CCP gave us the chance to pay to play it (and get DLC) - most closed Beta's are CLOSED, for sake of smaller numbers.
Skytt Syysch Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 235	Posted - 2012.07.04 16:56:00 - [10] - Quote Killface Rodeo wrote: I think anyone who paid SHOULD get something extra You get the items in the mercenary pack.

Killface Rodeo Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 7	Posted - 2012.07.04 17:05:00 - [11] - Quote Commander Xtreme wrote: Killface Rodeo wrote: Quack Man wrote: Why should you get anything extra? You didn't have to pay the $20. You'll probably get whatever beta items the rest of us get, because we are all beta testers, no matter how we got in. Well the 20 bucks I guess is the mercenary pack included with the closed beta access. This still feels ****** to me though. And yes I think anyone who paid SHOULD get something extra, because we are essentially paying to test their game. In the past testers got payed to test games, this is utter crap. You would have a valid point, but we didn't HAVE to pay, nobody did. I paid, because I wanted to - I don't care if the Beta sucks, or if I will be addicted forever, I paid, accepted the terms and conditions and agreed to no refunds. You made a conscious decision to put your money towards Beta access, regardless of what rumors were going around about PS+ players. "because we are essentially paying to test their game" - that's not true either, Closed Beta = small numbers. We're lucky CCP gave us the chance to pay to play it (and get DLC) - most closed Beta's are CLOSED, for sake of smaller numbers. Lucky? You seriously think that? THEY NEED PEOPLE TO TEST THEIR GAME. They obviously don't have the resources for themselves. They need to see how the game will work in a natural environment. This is seriously where we are at as consumers? Where we should "feel lucky" for getting to pay to test an unfinished product?
MrShooter01 Expert Intervention Caldari State 268	Posted - 2012.07.04 17:11:00 - [12] - Quote You seem to be pretty upset about the fact that you paid to be in the beta for an unfinished product perhaps you should not have done that if you do not like playing unfinished games
Lilianna Sentinel Bragian Order Amarr Empire 295	Posted - 2012.07.04 17:19:00 - [13] - Quote The merc pack will be refunded to you at launch. Giving you 20 dollars worth of Aurum, 30 days of 50% more SP and other goodies. There's your compensation.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.07.04 18:21:00 - [14] - Quote You don't pay to get into the beta. You sign up for a code to get into the beta. You pay to get Aurum (which is reset after the beta so you can re-use it in the release version), a bunch of extra items for the game (also given back when they reset the servers on release), and MORE TIME with the beta than people who don't pay. How are people still not getting that?
Ima Leet Imperfects Negative-Feedback 321	Posted - 2012.07.04 18:48:00 - [15] - Quote QQ get over it. you paid for 4000 AUR and specific items that are returned to you at release of game to respend. if not the same suits and gun then ones that are equivalent. you paid for privilege to play a F2P game early. i had a free all access pass, i was first round of testers picked in the US. i STILL bought this pack. STFU besides, did you ever own GT Prologue? yea, $60 for that beta, stop QQ
Maffia- Thug 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 62	Posted - 2012.07.04 18:59:00 - [16] - Quote Killface Rodeo wrote: Commander Xtreme wrote: Killface Rodeo wrote: Quack Man wrote: Why should you get anything extra? You didn't have to pay the $20. You'll probably get whatever beta items the rest of us get, because we are all beta testers, no matter how we got in. Well the 20 bucks I guess is the mercenary pack included with the closed beta access. This still feels ****** to me though. And yes I think anyone who paid SHOULD get something extra, because we are essentially paying to test their game. In the past testers got payed to test games, this is utter crap. You would have a valid point, but we didn't HAVE to pay, nobody did. I paid, because I wanted to - I don't care if the Beta sucks, or if I will be addicted forever, I paid, accepted the terms and conditions and agreed to no refunds. You made a conscious decision to put your money towards Beta access, regardless of what rumors were going around about PS+ players. "because we are essentially paying to test their game" - that's not true either, Closed Beta = small numbers. We're lucky CCP gave us the chance to pay to play it (and get DLC) - most closed Beta's are CLOSED, for sake of smaller numbers. Lucky? You seriously think that? THEY NEED PEOPLE TO TEST THEIR GAME. They obviously don't have the resources for themselves. They need to see how the game will work in a natural environment. This is seriously where we are at as consumers? Where we should "feel lucky" for getting to pay to test an unfinished product? Dude, seriously???? What do you do in your life, that makes this issue so important. You paid 20 bucks and got some stuff. When the game is released you will get all of those items. So, you didn't spend meaningless money. Also, as stated before, you chose to pay 20. Gaming is an enjoyment of technology. It's not a job. Should we get paid to wipe our asses with a new brand of toilet paper that we have never bought before? Come on man, quit trying to get something extra or free, just take pride in contributing to a potentially awesome game. And be proud of the fact that you had a part in helping with the devolpment of it. CCP made the game and spent the time and resources to create it, they don't owe any of us anything besides a great game. If you are unhappy with it, then don't play and leave the forums. If your wisdom is so much better.....go make your own damn game. I'm sick and tired of people like you.....quit trying to get something from everybody else and get it on your own.....or just enjoy yourself and play. Damn man.
Valen Alabas Bragian Order Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2012.07.04 19:22:00 - [17] - Quote You were not forced to buy the Pack. You done it on your own and will get stuff for it to use it twice. One time in the beta and the other time on release. You must notice, that you are in a Beta and that-¦s it. The Pack is the same worth on release. I am happy to participate in this beta. No one owns me something, because it is beta and i decide if i play or not. Don-¦t be so upset in the first place. You should have known better than that. Greetings Valen
Rafgas first BetaMax. 18	Posted - 2012.07.04 19:36:00 - [18] - Quote Killface Rodeo wrote: Quack Man wrote: Why should you get anything extra? You didn't have to pay the $20. You'll probably get whatever beta items the rest of us get, because we are all beta testers, no matter how we got in. Well the 20 bucks I guess is the mercenary pack included with the closed beta access. This still feels **** to me though. And yes I think anyone who paid SHOULD get something extra, because we are essentially paying to test their game. In the past testers got payed to test games, this is utter crap. you ARE getting some extra, not only are you getting 20$ worth of aurum only, but you are getting permanent stuff as well. And you get to re-use it when the game launches. stop being a entitled little ***
Seeker of Cheese Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 163	Posted - 2012.07.04 19:41:00 - [19] - Quote Killface Rodeo wrote: I am already a PS+ member and a lot of PS+ members were under the impression that we would get free beta access. Oh, so you were wrong, and now want CCP to give you something because you were wrong? I'm sure they'll get right on that.
Angel Vicious Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2012.07.04 19:51:00 - [20] - Quote The merc pack was what something like a 60 dollar value. And we (myself included) paid 20 dollars for it. You essentially got 40 dollars worth of stuff for free. Now you are asking for more compensation? Sorry to me that is just ungrateful. I understand that everyone may not see it that way but the merc pack was an amazing deal and opportunity. No matter who you are a 60 dollar value for 20 dollars is a good deal. Then on top of it you get exclusive access to a game prerelease. I say exclusive because those of us who paid get access on the off weekends when non payers do not get that access. Just my .02

Geirskoegul Soul-Strike 134	Posted - 2012.07.04 20:15:00 - [21] - Quote Speaking as a ps+ subscriber, an eve player of nearly a decade, a veteran of every major mmo from the first one with graohics (NWN as pay per hour on AOL in 1991) up until WoW destroyed the genre, and having participated in more betas than I can track (to the point i've picked up and played games and not realized i'd beta'd it until months later), this whole argument is pure bullshit. Ps+ said you might get some beta access. not to all, not without restriction, and not with any other guarantees. With ps+ you get many other things. i've subscribed since they had it go live, and it's more than paid for itself in discounts and free games. This is a beta. Resets happen, items are changed. CCP has promised that anyone that buys aurum or other dust-related stuff will receive the same or comparable value on release. Nothing questionable has taken place. As others have said, you CHOSE to pay. Quit your bitching, contibute usefully, or **** off and gb2WoW ___ This is Spork Witch in EVe, Deus Necare from my original Dust beta account
Hawk Von Draum Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 122	Posted - 2012.07.04 20:52:00 - [22] - Quote Killface Rodeo wrote: jackbubu wrote: Please point to where CCP said that PS+ members would have guaranteed acces, then complain again. if you bought the merc pack you will get compensation for that so idk what you are complaining about Did I ever say CCP? No, I didn't. This was one of the reasons to get a PS+ membership, one of their selling points was free beta access. your complaining on the wrong forums then!
RolyatDerTeufel D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 1648	Posted - 2012.07.04 22:11:00 - [23] - Quote what the hell are you complaining about?
Demonic Chaos Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 14	Posted - 2012.07.04 22:29:00 - [24] - Quote Merc pack is 50.00 worth of stuff for $20 I was already in beta and planning on getting some aurum to support ccp got merc pack instead also all stuff is returned after every wipe and when game goes live! I don't know what you are complaining about I've played other betas that were released on ps+ right before games were released that weren't half as good as dust and those werent f2p games that you will NEVER have to spend money on
Action Scientist Bragian Order Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2012.07.04 23:06:00 - [25] - Quote I was already in the Beta then got the Merc Pack as I enjoyed the beta and therefore wanted to support CCP's choice in making this game. So I didn't pay for the Beta because I was already in it, so I spent the same amount as you and got less and I am happy, why are you not?
D-Rock Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. 6	Posted - 2012.07.04 23:31:00 - [26] - Quote I only had a wknd beta key, for last wknd, and played the the first couple of days. I then made a concious decision to buy the merc pack to get an all access pass as I wanted to continue to be part of the development of the game. I felt as it was all returned after each wipe and then when the game goes live that was a very fair deal. Really don't see what the OP's gripe is apart from apparently trying to get something for nothing.
Nova Knife Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 789	Posted - 2012.07.05 00:16:00 - [27] - Quote You are misunderstanding what you paid for. You didn't pay to test the game. You paid for items you'd be getting at release and Aurum. Some of these items are BPO's. This is a -big deal- because there will be very few actual BPO's in dust at launch. The fact that this pack includes access to the beta is just an awesome bonus. You didn't need to pay anything, you could have just as easily signed up on dust514.com and waited for one of their weekly invite waves. No one in the beta to date has 'paid to play'. You pay for the items, playing earlier is just a bonus.
Darkz azurr Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 105	Posted - 2012.07.05 01:22:00 - [28] - Quote ^ nova is right
Mako LandSharkX Goggles Inc. 48	Posted - 2012.07.05 08:53:00 - [29] - Quote Killface Rodeo wrote: jackbubu wrote: Please point to where CCP said that PS+ members would have guaranteed acces, then complain again. if you bought the merc pack you will get compensation for that so idk what you are complaining about Did I ever say CCP? No, I didn't. This was one of the reasons to get a PS+ membership, one of their selling points was free beta access. First off, if that were true shouldn't you be on the playstation network forums asking them to compensate you for your Playstation Plus membership instead of here demanding more then what you paid for from CCP? http://us.playstation.com/psn/playstation-plus/ selling point quote: "Exclusive access to game betas, demos and features" that does not say ALL game betas, demos and features. Secondly, if you think it's so ridiculous to pay for beta access...you shouldn't have. Thirdly, what do you get at release? What you paid for, and then some. You paid 20 bucks and got 20 bucks worth of in-game currency (AUR). For doing it early you were gifted (that's a free favor from CCP to YOU) extra items and full access to their beta. When the game is live you will keep your 20 bucks worth of AUR (whatever spent in beta = reimbursed for launch) , the free items you got from Merc Pack (also reimbursed for launch), and the satisfaction of having been able to take part in making this game what it became at launch.
zeroknexus Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2012.07.05 10:01:00 - [30] - Quote To the care worker of the OP, Please take the PS3 away from him, he is obviously not capable of understanding what is going on with this beta and it would be better for everyone for him not to be involved. Also can you turn on the parental controls on his PC and block his access to this forum. So he cannot post any more ridiculous questions like he has. He has upset alot of people who probably do not know he has special needs. Try him out with Club Penquin, I think it will be more his sort of thing. Thank you



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