This is Rattati we're talking about here. Unlike the past leadership, he actually has a solid record of delivering his promises.

This is a time that should be filled with optimism. We should be encouraging ccp to green light the game. Not complaining about features ccp has said will eventually make it in just not right from the start. I want this game to happen first. And that's only going to happen if we encourage them to make it.

When we sit back and say things like "omg it's going to be a generic lobby cqc shooter" and then follow that up with "I know they plan to add all this extra stuff after they nail down the core shooter aspects" it just sounds like complaining for the sake of complaining. Your feelings are hurt that they didn't just port dust to pc which would have apparently been the only way to satisfy everyone! Except even then people would have still found reason to complain.....

Anyway. My point is this. We aren't going to even have a generic fps version of dust, let alone all the extra stuff they said would come after that IF the project doesn't get green lit. And what would make it so the project doesn't get green lit?? People bitching and moaning about the game before it's even out of the conceptual development stage.

So let's try to get the game green lit. And then in closed beta. And then start complaining about what it lacks. Rather then just complain complain and complain and then complain some more when for some reason they can the project again......

My mindset right now is "no they are never going to add what i wanted in dust into nova" that is why i made this thread,if i had the thought in my head that they were going to add the things in the future then i wouldnt have made this thread plain and simple.

bitching and moaning like it or not is a form of feedback , cpp could have shut down dust and went through this tech demo, static fps, greenlight, testing, and other phases years ago when many people including myself kept telling ccp that what they wanted to do with dust just was not going to work out on the ps3 and that they should move it to the pc. but what did they do? they decided not too listen and instead continue to try to do the impossible which was foolish then they went the path of milking money from its playerbase that was left.

Bleh better late than never i gues..........

If you have been around for any length of time you know that CCP is the absolute worst company at communication. If you are basing your views on the ramblings of one member of CCP you are most assuredly developing the wrong picture.

If you want to follow a game with open development, join Star Citizen. They have hours of video and dozens of posts WEEKLY.
If SC is Niagra Falls, CCP is that annoying leaky faucet that drips once every couple minutes. Don't expect to have any clue what their intentions are until you actually see the gameplay.

Stop complaining and wait to see what they come out with. Not two months ago we were sure there wasn't going to be a successor to DUST, so be happy there is something, anything coming.

My mindset right now is "no they are never going to add what i wanted in dust into nova" that is why i made this thread,if i had the thought in my head that they were going to add the things in the future then i wouldnt have made this thread plain and simple.

bitching and moaning like it or not is a form of feedback , cpp could have shut down dust and went through this tech demo, static fps, greenlight, testing, and other phases years ago when many people including myself kept telling ccp that what they wanted to do with dust just was not going to work out on the ps3 and that they should move it to the pc. but what did they do? they decided not too listen and instead continue to try to do the impossible which was foolish then they went the path of milking money from its playerbase that was left.

Bleh better late than never i gues..........

Pictured: ambition

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Let's stick to properly paced development and caution, something CCP has proven they do better than hotheaded ambition.

If you have been around for any length of time you know that CCP is the absolute worst company at communication. If you are basing your views on the ramblings of one member of CCP you are most assuredly developing the wrong picture.

If you want to follow a game with open development, join Star Citizen. They have hours of video and dozens of posts WEEKLY.
If SC is Niagra Falls, CCP is that annoying leaky faucet that drips once every couple minutes. Don't expect to have any clue what their intentions are until you actually see the gameplay.

Stop complaining and wait to see what they come out with. Not two months ago we were sure there wasn't going to be a successor to DUST, so be happy there is something, anything coming.

sir they had years to do this , they definitely have not proved that they do better sticking to a properly paced development (thats even if they can freaking stick to one) especially not after dust. if they did they would have listened to the fans that were telling them to put it on pc years ago, they could have avoided many of dust's failures and failures with their team if they would have listened.

For the record, I don't think that the developers of Star Citizen have any intention to directly compete with the likes of Eve Online. They just want to be their own different game.

sir they had years to do this , they definitely have not proved that they do better sticking to a properly paced development (thats even if they can freaking stick to one) especially not after dust. if they did they would have listened to the fans that were telling them to put it on pc years ago, they could have avoided many of dust's failures and failures with their team if they would have listened.

Lol, EVE 2003 to now. You must not EVE.

My mindset right now, is that like they didn't do the things that they said they would in Dust, they likewise won't do them in Nova. There's not even the first inkling that they will.

I'm talking walking in stations, open combat between as many combatants on as many different sides as we like, being able to open that damned door to the station from my Captains Quarters, and with my EvE main, Nalianna, take up a rifle and join in the fight.

There are so many things that were supposed to happen with Dust and didn't. I won't be happy until Nova does them. And I'm pretty close to certain it never will.

If you want that door to open so you can go walking out into the station or have a FPS battle on your bridge you are playing the wrong game because it is never going to happen. It's not because CCP lacks the will, it's because of the code and architecture restrictions. EO is a single threaded Mainframe application that runs the entire EO universe. If too much occurs at once it slows down and you get TD. That won't work for an FPS. You won't ever get mixed fleet operations and FPS in one experience. That's why Valkarie will never be linked to EO in realtime. CCP would have to completely rewrite the EO code under a new architecture and that's not going to happen.

Valkarie and Nova may get linked economically because it isn't done in realtime, but that is the most you can expect.

RSI is building exactly that game in Star Citizen. It is using a distributed architecture for all the code, capital ships, single seat fighters, and FPS. They can do this because they are starting from scratch with that plan. It's not something you can retrofit to the EVE Universe.