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Marston VC
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Posted - 2016.04.30 03:14:00 -
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This is a time that should be filled with optimism. We should be encouraging ccp to green light the game. Not complaining about features ccp has said will eventually make it in just not right from the start. I want this game to happen first. And that's only going to happen if we encourage them to make it.
When we sit back and say things like "omg it's going to be a generic lobby cqc shooter" and then follow that up with "I know they plan to add all this extra stuff after they nail down the core shooter aspects" it just sounds like complaining for the sake of complaining. Your feelings are hurt that they didn't just port dust to pc which would have apparently been the only way to satisfy everyone! Except even then people would have still found reason to complain.....
Anyway. My point is this. We aren't going to even have a generic fps version of dust, let alone all the extra stuff they said would come after that IF the project doesn't get green lit. And what would make it so the project doesn't get green lit?? People bitching and moaning about the game before it's even out of the conceptual development stage.
So let's try to get the game green lit. And then in closed beta. And then start complaining about what it lacks. Rather then just complain complain and complain and then complain some more when for some reason they can the project again......
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Marston VC
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Posted - 2016.04.30 03:57:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:Marston VC wrote:This is a time that should be filled with optimism. We should be encouraging ccp to green light the game. Not complaining about features ccp has said will eventually make it in just not right from the start. I want this game to happen first. And that's only going to happen if we encourage them to make it.
When we sit back and say things like "omg it's going to be a generic lobby cqc shooter" and then follow that up with "I know they plan to add all this extra stuff after they nail down the core shooter aspects" it just sounds like complaining for the sake of complaining. Your feelings are hurt that they didn't just port dust to pc which would have apparently been the only way to satisfy everyone! Except even then people would have still found reason to complain.....
Anyway. My point is this. We aren't going to even have a generic fps version of dust, let alone all the extra stuff they said would come after that IF the project doesn't get green lit. And what would make it so the project doesn't get green lit?? People bitching and moaning about the game before it's even out of the conceptual development stage.
So let's try to get the game green lit. And then in closed beta. And then start complaining about what it lacks. Rather then just complain complain and complain and then complain some more when for some reason they can the project again...... My mindset right now is "no they are never going to add what i wanted in dust into nova" that is why i made this thread,if i had the thought in my head that they were going to add the things in the future then i wouldnt have made this thread plain and simple. bitching and moaning like it or not is a form of feedback , cpp could have shut down dust and went through this tech demo, static fps, greenlight, testing, and other phases years ago when many people including myself kept telling ccp that what they wanted to do with dust just was not going to work out on the ps3 and that they should move it to the pc. but what did they do? they decided not too listen and instead continue to try to do the impossible which was foolish then they went the path of milking money from its playerbase that was left. Bleh better late than never i gues..........
One of the interviews pretty much said that this game is eventually going to be exactly what we wanted dust to be and it was the executive producer who said it. Of course he didn't say it that way specifically, he just detailed all the things we wanted dust to be and how they were eventually going to be acheived through nova. Your disappointed now? I can't imagine how hurt your feelings will be when they can the project and your sitting there wondering why.....
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Marston VC
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Posted - 2016.04.30 04:08:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Marston VC wrote:So let's try to get the game green lit. THIS. This right here is what ******* triggers me so god damn ******* hard. It wasn't bad enough we had a 10 year laser focused plan for this game with zero chance of a DUST 2. This game seriously has the most dedicated ******* playerbase I've ever seen, even if it is a small one. Sure there a few outspoken impossible to please people like myself, but this community has gone through ******* hell and back for this game, and we STILL can't get the go ahead from Hilmar? We're STILL looking at Soon (TM)? How the **** does this not **** anyone else off? Why the **** should I have to rub CCPs ego to get this thing ******* approved? How the **** is it not a given by this point?
The concept is old but this game specifically is not. This game is only 6 months old. Legion got canned because they weren't pleased with how it was being received. 8 years late is better then 12 years late. Which is what will be looking at if they can the project a third time with nova.
I don't think I'm particularly dedicated. I'm just not the one who's going to be the reason they can this game again. if anything, I'll be one of the many responsible for making it become green lit because I'm not shitting on the pre alpha constantly.
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Marston VC
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Posted - 2016.04.30 04:20:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Marston VC wrote: if anything, I'll be one of the many responsible for making it become green lit because I'm not shitting on the pre alpha constantly. And you are more than welcome to pat yourself on the back for your efforts. If CCP can't stomach some negative feedback for the second iteration of a game that isn't even out yet then I'm not sure what to say. Most of us do it out of love. A sick, twisted, deformed and unholy love, but love all the same.
You might be doing it out of dedication. Your ranting at least seems reasonable. Most of everyone else is being a big old bbbbbbbbbbbbbbitcchhhhhh
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Marston VC
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Posted - 2016.04.30 06:45:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Nstomper wrote:going off of my experience with ccp here when i see those words in his quotes in that thread mean nothing at this moment, they are just words. His words do not make me excited or hopeful because looking at the past and their words as opposed to what actually did or didnt happen surely you will understand what im trying to say. first day back on forums i did not feel like searching through pages for this and other threads similar to mine. with ccp now and many other games i base things off of what i see shown in videos, in patch notes, and dev live letters, not words from devs about what may or my not come in the future especially with a ccp game This is Rattati we're talking about here. Unlike the past leadership, he actually has a solid record of delivering his promises. But Hilmar is still the one calling the shots, and he looks even less enthused now than he did before. I'm certain the game will be greenlit at this point, but I'm also pretty certain it will retain its minimal team and funding. If Rattati does well enough, and judging from the tech demo we saw of Project Nova he likely might, Hilmar might start warming up a little more. Looks like I have been hit by someone's Boundless Optimism. That weapon is OP, yo.
OPTIMISM
#HYPE
Marston VC, STB Director
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Marston VC
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Posted - 2016.04.30 06:50:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Nstomper wrote:going off of my experience with ccp here when i see those words in his quotes in that thread mean nothing at this moment, they are just words. His words do not make me excited or hopeful because looking at the past and their words as opposed to what actually did or didnt happen surely you will understand what im trying to say. first day back on forums i did not feel like searching through pages for this and other threads similar to mine. with ccp now and many other games i base things off of what i see shown in videos, in patch notes, and dev live letters, not words from devs about what may or my not come in the future especially with a ccp game This is Rattati we're talking about here. Unlike the past leadership, he actually has a solid record of delivering his promises. But Hilmar is still the one calling the shots, and he looks even less enthused now than he did before. I'm certain the game will be greenlit at this point, but I'm also pretty certain it will retain its minimal team and funding.
You can help change his mind. Go to Twitter and tweet him that you really want the game. I did and I convinced a few others too. The more popularity we give the game, the more excited he'll be. And honestly I don't blame him much. He was just as sold on dust as the rest of us but the old leadership put a sour taste in his mouth when they failed. Ratatti and frame have done good by us in trying to keep a sinking ship up, but it's now time to move into the next game!
I think he is just coming in reserved for this one. Not expecting much is a sure fire way of not being let down. So let's do our part in proving him wrong! To Twitter my friend!
Marston VC, STB Director
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