Not even going to read this wall of text. No one cares about your qq.

Not even going to read this wall of text. No one cares about your qq.

Taking things with skepticism is fine, just dont be a bitter salty angry vet. It's annoying, and it certainly doesn't help anything. Just keep a level head, wait, and see what's to come. Trust me.

Hop in Pokey's Boundless Optimism train !

I am a realist when it comes to any games these days

Hey its a lot more fun that being bitter and salty, I can tell you that.

Taking things with skepticism is fine, just dont be a bitter salty angry vet. It's annoying, and it certainly doesn't help anything. Just keep a level head, wait, and see what's to come. Trust me.

You mean you're a pessimist in denial.

DUST514 is not complete and got the plug pulled and now 6 years later Nova is announced, not with a fanfare but a whimper, Hilmar didn't look too impressed and in the same breath said that CCP would not be afraid to axe failing projects which is a red flag to me since we know that CCP were not happy with DUST and Nova is still a unlit project.

Hilmar has always given 0 **** about the whole FPS idea, that's nothing new. What means is we have to provide enough support to the project to show its worth investing in.

What i saw was labeled as a 'tech demo' to showcase the game at its core and how it is going back to its roots as an FPS to fix the basic mechanics which is all well and good but if other mechanics are missing or just outright bad then you end up like MGO3 with great mechanics but shite gameplay.

Yeah a 'tech demo' means it's bare bones, it show cases the engine and core gameplay as a form of proof of concept. The concept being a solid space shooter. Other mechanics physically haven't been implemented yet. Like the fact a single map was played with no between lobby or anything else.

The demo was very basic, the map was small and no longer on a planet so that hinted at arena type maps and not open world which also means no vehicles or AV.

Of course the demo was basic, it's a demo, that's what demos are. A lot of people complained that DUST maps were to big. You spent too much time traipsing across flat open terrain between modules and objectives.

As for open air, Rattati has already confirmed that planets will be back and Asteroid Stations and other places will be available when it makes thematic sense. As for vehicles, yes for the time being they are gone until they are happy with the pure FPS side.

Players can quickly jump into a match but dev comments after stated that you can unlock more things for it the more you play that role, this is a bad decision and a dumbing down of the game and a forced restriction of the player choices. SP and skillbooks allow you to train up many skills which can improve your role even if you for a logi suit to be a slayer, look at EVE for direction again freedom to do what you want and how to do it.

As has been discussed to death, giving people complete control straight off the bat is a bad design choice for an FPS.

The idea is to ease players into a role before they start customising it. In DUST if you stack Shield extenders on a gallante you are going to die, a lot. If your new you won't understand why, you'll just assume the game is **** and leave. The same if you get in a Scout and put an Assault Rifle on it and charge headfirst into an objective.

By reducing the amount of initial choice, blame isn't placed on mechanics you are unaware, instead you blame yourself for being an inexperienced player, then you level up and get better and enjoy the game.

32 roles? I had more with my vehicles and even so the 4 different factions which will have the 3 different suits split up twice really does mean 8 roles which will be the same for the 4 factions so it is not really 32 roles if Logi features 4 times.

I'm sorry but that's a load of rubbish. 32 fittings is not 32 roles. Vehicles had at most 4 roles (Anti-Personnel, Anti-Vehicle, Mobile Spawn Point, Troop Transport) The point is that there are 3 weight classes, each with 2 base roles ( or 8 between them) each with 4 racial specialisations. Now in reality in terms of end of tree we are looking at one more class than we had.

Jump jets, talk about not learning from the myo problem where we currently have scouts jumping around like they are on the moon.

Slightly different, in that one is equipment and not stackable, the other is.

16v16 on PC for a supposedly MMO, we have had 16v16 on PS3 for 6 years where is the ambition? EVE has stupidly massive fleet fights, your novels and stories has massive fights in both space and ground so why not Nova?.

Baby Steps

A roundtable was nonexistant, no other information relating to the game was released or even expanded upon, very vauge statements released to gaming websites in which i have heard before many times years ago when DUST was around in that the game is looking to do x and we want to do y.

Welcome to Hilmar's attitude

I am a realist when it comes to any games these days, i know that EA will shaft you and that Ubisoft will rush something half finished and that CCP thinks big but fails to deliver unless it is EVE.

The Division waves from Ubisofts Corner, Mass Effect from EA's.

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32 roles? I had more with my vehicles and even so the 4 different factions which will have the 3 different suits split up twice really does mean 8 roles which will be the same for the 4 factions so it is not really 32 roles if Logi features 4 times.

CEO does not care so what does that say for the game? Nothing good

So don't vindicate his position by whining. All your doing is showing him it's not worth the effort to invest because all your gonna do is complain.

Complete control over a role is better than forcing you to play that role to get other things, that complete control could easily be limited in tutorials and be expanded upon.

Complete Control is only good if you know what you are doing, how is it that you learn about what you should be doing . . . . . .experience, pish posh right? Who cares about new player experience or player retention right?


32 fittings can easily be 32 roles, the amount i had which did something different was staggering, while even one module may have been different it would mean that i would have to play differently with that fit.

Please list them then, every "role" and we will see if they can't be categorized into one of the 4 I gave you?

Jump jets are bad end of.
End of what? Opinion isn't fact. Jump jets are great for locomotion it also allows for shortcuts and other tactical play that not having them doesn't offer.

Baby steps was 6 years of DUST
Except it wasn't DUST was a giant leap too far into the Abyss, and even 6 years wasn't enough to correct all those initial mistakes.

As for the tech demo, yes bare bones but why not a bare bones for vehicles on an open world map? show that they are still there for the full MMO experience and possibly a simple video on SP and skills and possible future progression.

I don't think you understand what bare bones means. Vehicles are a whole level of extra complexity, if it's not showing modules or Loadout what makes you think they will include vehicles.

The division is ****, have you seen the end game? it does not exist because it gets to a point where you have enough health and recharge that you cannot kill them.

Yeah I'm in the End Game, I'm loving it. With the right gear I can still kill enemies pretty well, but Dark Zone extractions solo are still challenging.

ME where the end of the game is DLC.
Oh you mean the directors cut? You almost make it sound like the game didn't physically come with an ending, or that the rest of the franchise was ruined by it.

Great game examples proving my point.
If anything you are proving my point by whining about highly rated and revered games by pretty much most other people.

Doesn't help being a blind fanboy either, no criticism and they continue down the wrong road.

It's fun when you turn out to be right, you mean.

Alright then.

Quote like a normal person ffs.

CEO is not impressed by his own product, forget about what i think of it or the general playerbase should the CEO have confidence in what they are producing above all else?

I guess you missed the part where i said tutorials.
Tutorials aren't enough, given the games you play I should not have to explain that to you. In WOT you have to play to unlock better Loadout options, are you not contradicting yourself?

I would list them but that was 3 years ago when vehicles were useful and i have alot more modules/skills/turrets/hulls etc.
So no then Go Figure. 3 years ago I had 5 roles, Demolitions, Assault, Anti-Vehicle, Logistics Support and Close Air Ground Support. I had in total 26 fits which while each played differently but still only fulfilled one of those 5 roles.

Jump jets will get abused, anything with extra jumping gets abused.
Opinion, double jump is considerably better than bunny hoping or chop strafing and is much more predictable. Take Destiny for example, Vanguards with increased height is one of my favorite easy kills

DUST was 16v16 on PS3, on a more powerful system they still looking at 16v16 why not say that they would like to expand that, not even a hint just that 6v6 for testing then back to 16v16.
Because it's not a case of system power that's the problem. It's complexity, though if memory serves, Rattatai has been quoted for wanting to get above 16v16 eventually.

They did barebones for FPS infantry why not for vehicles, hell i would have been content with a simple video.
You are really struggling with this whole "bare bones" thing aren't you.

Quote:

bare-bones
adjective
adjective: bare-bones; adjective: barebones
reduced to or comprising only the basic or essential elements of something.
"a bare-bones version of the story"

Vehicles are not a basic or essential part of an FPS, therefore they will not be included in "Bare Bones" demo of an FPS game. I don't think I can make it any easier to understand.




Just because the majority enjoy said games does not mean that they are good.
Can we take a moment to appreciate that logic right there, it doesn't matter how many people like it, or enjoy it, it doesn't mean it's good. If only there were someway to quantify how good a game is . . . . .

the divisions lack of end game makes it like destiny
I don't think you understand the point, or meaning of "End Game"

and ME with its half an ending and then DLC content added on was a typical EA move,
It shows how much you know then the ending was Bioware, EA release the DLC version because people were up in arms about it, then stated that they wouldn't take down online footage of the ending.

it would be like if konami released the cut 51mission as DLC for MGS.
They might well do, nothing like a little extra money to line the pockets.

There is very little to be happy with concerning Nova, the only real thing i can be happy with is that it is on PC which allows for infinte possibilities and looking at EVE which is a damn good game that i do at times wish i still played and just do wish that Nova is the FPS version of EVE with all the skills/modules/vehicles/suits/weapons etc which allows of absolute freedom at the solo and corp level.
There is plenty to be happy about, we are finally in freaking spaceships, like we asked for. We have a full suit Roster with a 5th faction, plus the possibility for more.

Enjoying WOWs a hell of alot, WOT have not touched for a while, ETS2 for comfy moments, XCOM2 but need some key mods, XCOM EW for lolz, even old games like PES2010 and NHL08. I just find that new releases such as MGSV have been let downs and hype gets crushed hard.

Taking things with skepticism is fine, just dont be a bitter salty angry vet. It's annoying, and it certainly doesn't help anything. Just keep a level head, wait, and see what's to come. Trust me.

The demo was very basic, the map was small and no longer on a planet so that hinted at arena type maps and not open world which also means no vehicles or AV.

32 roles? I had more with my vehicles

Found the tanker, guys! Would you like some more salt in your Kool Aid?

Boundless motherf*ckin' optimism right here.

Does anyone care about your opinion Takahiro?

Nah.