While I am here, I have noticed something that I wanted to bring up and hear some opinions...

Most of you have moved on to new games. I see AE/OH on World of Tanks, along with ESO and others. Now so many are on Division.

Let me ask you guys this. You all sit here and talk about who was the greatest, is the greatest, whatever. Best shooters and gun game. Where are all you scrubs on Rainbow? on Rocket? These dust stories and web series, you guys say nothing matters after the vets left. I challenge that wholeheartedly. Dust was/is an mmorpg. Things are OP, based on skill/grinding/gear/etc. How come none of you can transfer this "skill" you claim to have, to a game that does not allow you to grind your way to having a clear competitive advantage over your opponents? Instead, you move on to another mmorpg, where you can smash hobby noobs who simply don't have the time to get what you have. Or you can devise an OP setup that puts you in front of someone who, in fact, is skillfully better than you.

After getting away from Dust and returning to my Gamebattles/MLG roots, it dawned on me how much time I wasted on a game that was not based on skill - but on time, on meta. Obviously skill plays a role, but seriously? I really expected to see many of the titans from Dust flock to what is clearly the most evenly-matched competitive titles out there. But sadly, I see none.

When I say I played Dust514 to a competitive gamer, am I pretty much saying I played World of Tanks for 2 1/2 years? I spent $60 on Division....made it to like level 20. Garbage gear grind. Grand Theft Assassin's Borderland Destiny.

The time will come when an actual good FPS game comes out in two months.

While you were bragging about how MLG you are you forgot to mention your losing record in said "gamebattles" and the fact that you get dunked on by DK in rocket league.

TLDR: piked

Difference is when the vets played the playing field was closer..I had 6m sp now 82..the disparity in sp you see now wasn't a big deal back then.. I do fine in most games but seeing as siege is team based a soloist such as myself doesn't enjoy it, guess that means I lack skill

Destiny is all about what is fotm for pvp so not much of a difference from dust

I see what you're saying at this point dust takes no skill but as for gaming I really don't anymore..there's nothing I enjoy anymore..=ƒÿ¡

I'm confused here.....DOOM?

While I am here, I have noticed something that I wanted to bring up and hear some opinions...

Most of you have moved on to new games. I see AE/OH on World of Tanks, along with ESO and others. Now so many are on Division.

Let me ask you guys this. You all sit here and talk about who was the greatest, is the greatest, whatever. Best shooters and gun game. Where are all you scrubs on Rainbow? on Rocket? These dust stories and web series, you guys say nothing matters after the vets left. I challenge that wholeheartedly. Dust was/is an mmorpg. Things are OP, based on skill/grinding/gear/etc. How come none of you can transfer this "skill" you claim to have, to a game that does not allow you to grind your way to having a clear competitive advantage over your opponents? Instead, you move on to another mmorpg, where you can smash hobby noobs who simply don't have the time to get what you have. Or you can devise an OP setup that puts you in front of someone who, in fact, is skillfully better than you.

After getting away from Dust and returning to my Gamebattles/MLG roots, it dawned on me how much time I wasted on a game that was not based on skill - but on time, on meta. Obviously skill plays a role, but seriously? I really expected to see many of the titans from Dust flock to what is clearly the most evenly-matched competitive titles out there. But sadly, I see none.

When I say I played Dust514 to a competitive gamer, am I pretty much saying I played World of Tanks for 2 1/2 years? I spent $60 on Division....made it to like level 20. Garbage gear grind. Grand Theft Assassin's Borderland Destiny.

The time will come when an actual good FPS game comes out in two months.

Ah COD.

Amazingly built FPS game.

Never been a fan of it. For multiple and various reasons.

Ah COD.

Amazingly built FPS game.

Never been a fan of it. For multiple and various reasons.

Plat 3/Diamond on Siege Kaisar, over 100 hours logged as sledge. Check out my youtube channel for hammer kills in ranked matches. I've got tons of footage I still need to trim/upload, but the link below will give you an idea. College definitely takes time away, I'm pretty much in the same boat.

Hammer of Justice

For Rocket Badger, Silver ranked last season...just placed Challenger III for Doubles/Standard. About to hit Master neckbeard. I'll add you later, long as you aren't a penguin

Kalante check out the DOOM freeze-tag MP gamemode....enjoy

Agreed though OP, it just made sense to see gun-game inclined players transfer to the next tier. Sigh, I digress.

Difference is when the vets played the playing field was closer..I had 6m sp now 82..the disparity in sp you see now wasn't a big deal back then.. I do fine in most games but seeing as siege is team based a soloist such as myself doesn't enjoy it, guess that means I lack skill

Destiny is all about what is fotm for pvp so not much of a difference from dust

I see what you're saying at this point dust takes no skill but as for gaming I really don't anymore..there's nothing I enjoy anymore..=ƒÿ¡

What you on about?

Back when dust first came out it would take you a months to get 6mil sp and into a proto suit.

Now you can get into a protosuit and 6mil SP in 1 day. With virtually no SP limit cap for a week and triple stacking booster.


It was much harder to compete when dust first came out because you had to grind so much to get into a proto suit then you would just beat the sh*t out of the people who did not.


I would much rather have 20mil sp and take on someone with 100mil sp, f*ck make it 1bil sp now. Rather than when dust was young and have 1mil sp and go up against someone with 10mil sp. Back when "Vets" played the difference between 1mil sp and 10mil SP was weeks(Months) of grinding and a militia suit and proto suit.


"Vet" titles make me sick and i started playing before most others.

Yeaaa sorry heim/dubbs...but vik is 100% correct.

Vets back when I started in Uprising had 6 months advantage on me. My dragonfly assault was wet paper to proCal + DuvTac. I wouldn't say I was on near-level playing field until about Christmas of that year (2013). The gap was atrocious.

We think this game provides us with drama....any competition is drama. Hell, I'm starting to recognize all the top-tier diamond ranked rainbow players, because we play them regularly. The top tiers are always a smaller neckbeard community that will start to get involved within itself = drama. The MLG ladder sees many teams fold and merge or start anew, just like dust. Except for the fact that its no longer about gear grinding.

Loldivision. Wish I had purchased the hard copy, so I could at least trade it in for a controller or some sh!t.

I think the spirit of what he's trying to say is that if people were such FPS gods, why hasn't he seen a similar performance from those players on other game?

Which is a valid observation.

There are multiple things you could draw from this, none are mutually exclusive.

1. Dust "vets" prefer niche FPS games, and thus you don't see them in other titles

2. Dust "vets" are one trick ponies, who were only good at dust and not other games.

etc etc

At the end of the day, not much really matters. Top tier in dust was always a kind of misnomer with the small community. The smaller the pool (especially with large teams), the greater the deviation for the top tier.

The reason why you have not been seeing similar performance levels on other games is because DUST was a pretty simple FPS with a very small community in comparison to other video games of it's category.

Some of the vets I've spoken to have noted that Regnyum is amazing at DUST, easily one of the top players, but when playing COD (I think COD was the specific game mentioned by this person) Regnyum wasn't nearly at the same performance level compared to DUST.

That's just a great example and quote from one of the older well respected vets in the game.

Yeaaa sorry heim/dubbs...but vik is 100% correct.

Vets back when I started in Uprising had 6 months advantage on me. My dragonfly assault was wet paper to proCal + DuvTac. I wouldn't say I was on near-level playing field until about Christmas of that year (2013). The gap was atrocious.

We think this game provides us with drama....any competition is drama. Hell, I'm starting to recognize all the top-tier diamond ranked rainbow players, because we play them regularly. The top tiers are always a smaller neckbeard community that will start to get involved within itself = drama. The MLG ladder sees many teams fold and merge or start anew, just like dust. Except for the fact that its no longer about gear grinding.

Loldivision. Wish I had purchased the hard copy, so I could at least trade it in for a controller or some sh!t.

Why are you using an alt when the game is literally dying in a couple of months?

I think the spirit of what he's trying to say is that if people were such FPS gods, why hasn't he seen a similar performance from those players on other game?

Which is a valid observation.

There are multiple things you could draw from this, none are mutually exclusive.

1. Dust "vets" prefer niche FPS games, and thus you don't see them in other titles

2. Dust "vets" are one trick ponies, who were only good at dust and not other games.

etc etc

At the end of the day, not much really matters. Top tier in dust was always a kind of misnomer with the small community. The smaller the pool (especially with large teams), the greater the deviation for the top tier.
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My point was for the competition in PC, it was all similar back then..I don't feel like naming corps so Eon/NF/Rofl/Bunnies/cronos/Loi/Orion...this was the competition sure if you joined late you'd get bent but that's how Eve games work

Vet isn't skill it's how long you've been here

What vets are you guys referring to? Cause the vets that i know that left the game are beasts in every game that I've seen them in. MAG, BF (any of em), PS2, etc. I can go on.....players just need to accept what is.

What players left dust and are trash elsewhere? Name them...please

What vets are you guys referring to? Cause the vets that i know that left the game are beasts in every game that I've seen them in. MAG, BF (any of em), PS2, etc. I can go on.....players just need to accept what is.

What players left dust and are trash elsewhere? Name them...please

Aren't we all supposed to be playing video games to have fun anyways?

Perhaps the reason that someone is performing poorly in another game (compared to another game) is because they are not enjoying playing that game and not because they are "trash".

Wasn't taking shots, just simply stating what appears to be fact - as literally no one has replied with a PSN/GB team, or even an acknowledgement/vouch for someone who IS participating at a high level elsewhere.

Although I know many probably don't check these forums at this point, I thought I would have at least ran into people on other titles competing.

I understand your point dubbs on the cap being lower, but think about it....beta players had from, what does dustboard say, January 11th??? to neckbeard that cap weekly until Uprising (May something). That's nearly 6 months, amounting to roughly 5-6mil sp: an enormous gap between that and 500k.

Ghost hit it perfectly. Albeit we can all agree I wasn't anything special on Dust, I would love to see how my old rivals stack up now.

The reason why you have not been seeing similar performance levels on other games is because DUST was a pretty simple FPS with a very small community in comparison to other video games of it's category.

Some of the vets I've spoken to have noted that Regnyum is amazing at DUST, easily one of the top players, but when playing COD (I think COD was the specific game mentioned by this person) Regnyum wasn't nearly at the same performance level compared to DUST.

That's just a great example and quote from one of the older well respected vets in the game.

Plat 3/Diamond on Siege Kaisar, over 100 hours logged as sledge. Check out my youtube channel for hammer kills in ranked matches. I've got tons of footage I still need to trim/upload, but the link below will give you an idea. College definitely takes time away, I'm pretty much in the same boat.

Hammer of Justice

For Rocket Badger, Silver ranked last season...just placed Challenger III for Doubles/Standard. About to hit Master neckbeard. I'll add you later, long as you aren't a penguin

Kalante check out the DOOM freeze-tag MP gamemode....enjoy

Agreed though OP, it just made sense to see gun-game inclined players transfer to the next tier. Sigh, I digress.

The vet title isnt one earned from skill or a badge of privilege. It is just stating a mere fact. If you were here at a certain timeline then you are a vet.....and nothing can be changed about it. Would be like saying youre not in the 1% if you were worth $30B.

@ Heim....i'm with you...there is no game that is enjoyable enough for me to keep my attention. I'm not going to play a game that i dont like for **** measuring puposes.

Appreciate the compliment, whoever you are.

Honestly, this is one guy I would have liked to see on level field....considering the insurmountable amount of sh!t he talked about/towards my organization when he was a member of the incumbent. Between us two, if this is indeed true, it explains alot....as it would with many others (again, reference Kaiser "one-trick pony"). Even some of my own friends who were DUST legends admit how badly they get rekt on rainbow.

Don't mistake my competitive spirit for bitterness - it is simply comical too see how loud a rooster crows, when surrounded by mere hens.

One cool takeaway from all this is the transfer over from DUST. Our team consists of 90% players from DUST (Kalash, Silver, Alias, MMG, Solar, Zstorm, DK), the remainder some old GB friends. Our name is a respectful nod to the trials and tribulations we all faced for 3 years - Working As Intended. Hopefully we can climb out of our current Bad News Bears status on the team ladder. As much BS as we all put up with from CCP, the bonds made are invaluable.

Here's the MLG shepherd grey going 1-10 in his ADS.

http://imgur.com/04AwmMJ

Garbage pail player.

That was also from the match that produced this gem.

http://youtu.be/c3Wz8CiCSFg

While I am here, I have noticed something that I wanted to bring up and hear some opinions...

Most of you have moved on to new games. I see AE/OH on World of Tanks, along with ESO and others. Now so many are on Division.

Let me ask you guys this. You all sit here and talk about who was the greatest, is the greatest, whatever. Best shooters and gun game. Where are all you scrubs on Rainbow? on Rocket? These dust stories and web series, you guys say nothing matters after the vets left. I challenge that wholeheartedly. Dust was/is an mmorpg. Things are OP, based on skill/grinding/gear/etc. How come none of you can transfer this "skill" you claim to have, to a game that does not allow you to grind your way to having a clear competitive advantage over your opponents? Instead, you move on to another mmorpg, where you can smash hobby noobs who simply don't have the time to get what you have. Or you can devise an OP setup that puts you in front of someone who, in fact, is skillfully better than you.

After getting away from Dust and returning to my Gamebattles/MLG roots, it dawned on me how much time I wasted on a game that was not based on skill - but on time, on meta. Obviously skill plays a role, but seriously? I really expected to see many of the titans from Dust flock to what is clearly the most evenly-matched competitive titles out there. But sadly, I see none.

When I say I played Dust514 to a competitive gamer, am I pretty much saying I played World of Tanks for 2 1/2 years? I spent $60 on Division....made it to like level 20. Garbage gear grind. Grand Theft Assassin's Borderland Destiny.

Here's the MLG shepherd grey going 1-10 in his ADS.

http://imgur.com/04AwmMJ

Garbage pail player.

That was also from the match that produced this gem.

http://youtu.be/c3Wz8CiCSFg

Noneck....would be top 5 choice, for me, if I was building the ultimate team. Only played with him a little bit enough to know his rage and side comments are insane though.

Against SOG? Wish I could have watched the entire match to see if he was the only one pushing..I've had those pc's..not very fun

While I agree 100% that meta and not skill plays one of the biggest roles in deciding victorys, how do you know what games everyone is currently playing? I don't use 7thGÇÖs name in any other game, and my gamer tag does not say 7th anything. Your also assuming everyone got the exact same hardware and games you do, or that some players did'nt even upgrade yet.

While I agree 100% that meta and not skill plays one of the biggest roles in deciding victorys, how do you know what games everyone is currently playing? I don't use 7thGÇÖs name in any other game, and my gamer tag does not say 7th anything. Your also assuming everyone got the exact same hardware and games you do, or that some players did'nt even upgrade yet.