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aa324
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.03.24 23:29:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:I think the spirit of what he's trying to say is that if people were such FPS gods, why hasn't he seen a similar performance from those players on other game?
Which is a valid observation.
There are multiple things you could draw from this, none are mutually exclusive.
1. Dust "vets" prefer niche FPS games, and thus you don't see them in other titles
2. Dust "vets" are one trick ponies, who were only good at dust and not other games.
etc etc
At the end of the day, not much really matters. Top tier in dust was always a kind of misnomer with the small community. The smaller the pool (especially with large teams), the greater the deviation for the top tier. I
What vets are you guys referring to? Cause the vets that i know that left the game are beasts in every game that I've seen them in. MAG, BF (any of em), PS2, etc. I can go on.....players just need to accept what is. What players left dust and are trash elsewhere? Name them...please
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2016.03.24 23:59:00 -
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aa324 wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:I think the spirit of what he's trying to say is that if people were such FPS gods, why hasn't he seen a similar performance from those players on other game?
Which is a valid observation.
There are multiple things you could draw from this, none are mutually exclusive.
1. Dust "vets" prefer niche FPS games, and thus you don't see them in other titles
2. Dust "vets" are one trick ponies, who were only good at dust and not other games.
etc etc
At the end of the day, not much really matters. Top tier in dust was always a kind of misnomer with the small community. The smaller the pool (especially with large teams), the greater the deviation for the top tier. I
What vets are you guys referring to? Cause the vets that i know that left the game are beasts in every game that I've seen them in. MAG, BF (any of em), PS2, etc. I can go on.....players just need to accept what is. What players left dust and are trash elsewhere? Name them...please Aren't we all supposed to be playing video games to have fun anyways? Perhaps the reason that someone is performing poorly in another game (compared to another game) is because they are not enjoying playing that game and not because they are "trash".
I dont know about those players.....i could tell you that the vets we always bring up..that was running dust before they left are just as successful in other games. Its just like what Ghost said...fps skills transfer.
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Shepherd Grey
Capital Acquisitions LLC The-Office
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Posted - 2016.03.25 00:19:00 -
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Wasn't taking shots, just simply stating what appears to be fact - as literally no one has replied with a PSN/GB team, or even an acknowledgement/vouch for someone who IS participating at a high level elsewhere.
Although I know many probably don't check these forums at this point, I thought I would have at least ran into people on other titles competing.
I understand your point dubbs on the cap being lower, but think about it....beta players had from, what does dustboard say, January 11th??? to neckbeard that cap weekly until Uprising (May something). That's nearly 6 months, amounting to roughly 5-6mil sp: an enormous gap between that and 500k.
Ghost hit it perfectly. Albeit we can all agree I wasn't anything special on Dust, I would love to see how my old rivals stack up now.
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aa324
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.03.25 00:28:00 -
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Shepherd Grey wrote:Wasn't taking shots, just simply stating what appears to be fact - as literally no one has replied with a PSN/GB team, or even an acknowledgement/vouch for someone who IS participating at a high level elsewhere.
Although I know many probably don't check these forums at this point, I thought I would have at least ran into people on other titles competing.
I understand your point dubbs on the cap being lower, but think about it....beta players had from, what does dustboard say, January 11th??? to neckbeard that cap weekly until Uprising (May something). That's nearly 6 months, amounting to roughly 5-6mil sp: an enormous gap between that and 500k.
Ghost hit it perfectly. Albeit we can all agree I wasn't anything special on Dust, I would love to see how my old rivals stack up now.
You successfully ran a corporation in DUST and lead your corporation pretty efficiently. I would say that is special in and of itself. Many of your corporation leaders and members look(ed) up to you.
You weren't a bad player either. |
el OPERATOR
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
1694
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Posted - 2016.03.25 00:28:00 -
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Personally I'm enjoying the **** out of The Division but it's an entirely different game when you're running romperstomper with 4-7 people vs soloing the DZ, especially when that soloing is through the upper sections of it where any enemy will 1HK at any point. The PvP I find fun too since so much of it IS grind-based and people very often (wrongly) assume that since you're solo their crew will handle you with ease. My build will help compensate for the numbers (1vX) but it's still skill in dictating the engagements successfully.
Open-Beta Vet.
CAPCRO Nomad.
DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR
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el OPERATOR
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
1694
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Posted - 2016.03.25 00:30:00 -
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Redacted- Doublepost
Open-Beta Vet.
CAPCRO Nomad.
DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR
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Shepherd Grey
Capital Acquisitions LLC The-Office
729
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Posted - 2016.03.25 13:56:00 -
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aa324 wrote: The reason why you have not been seeing similar performance levels on other games is because DUST was a pretty simple FPS with a very small community in comparison to other video games of it's category.
Some of the vets I've spoken to have noted that Regnyum is amazing at DUST, easily one of the top players, but when playing COD (I think COD was the specific game mentioned by this person) Regnyum wasn't nearly at the same performance level compared to DUST.
That's just a great example and quote from one of the older well respected vets in the game.
Appreciate the compliment, whoever you are.
Honestly, this is one guy I would have liked to see on level field....considering the insurmountable amount of sh!t he talked about/towards my organization when he was a member of the incumbent. Between us two, if this is indeed true, it explains alot....as it would with many others (again, reference Kaiser "one-trick pony"). Even some of my own friends who were DUST legends admit how badly they get rekt on rainbow.
Don't mistake my competitive spirit for bitterness - it is simply comical too see how loud a rooster crows, when surrounded by mere hens.
One cool takeaway from all this is the transfer over from DUST. Our team consists of 90% players from DUST (Kalash, Silver, Alias, MMG, Solar, Zstorm, DK), the remainder some old GB friends. Our name is a respectful nod to the trials and tribulations we all faced for 3 years - Working As Intended. Hopefully we can climb out of our current Bad News Bears status on the team ladder. As much BS as we all put up with from CCP, the bonds made are invaluable.
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el OPERATOR
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
1694
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Posted - 2016.03.25 20:15:00 -
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Neck Check! may be NSFW depending on where you work/who with
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TTTsisx1qeA
Just because it's competitive doesn't mean it can't be fun!
Open-Beta Vet.
CAPCRO Nomad.
DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR
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Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2016.03.25 21:19:00 -
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Shepherd Grey wrote:Plat 3/Diamond on Siege Kaisar, over 100 hours logged as sledge. Check out my youtube channel for hammer kills in ranked matches. I've got tons of footage I still need to trim/upload, but the link below will give you an idea. College definitely takes time away, I'm pretty much in the same boat. Hammer of JusticeFor Rocket Badger, Silver ranked last season...just placed Challenger III for Doubles/Standard. About to hit Master neckbeard. I'll add you later, long as you aren't a penguin Kalante check out the DOOM freeze-tag MP gamemode....enjoy Agreed though OP, it just made sense to see gun-game inclined players transfer to the next tier. Sigh, I digress. Maaaaaaaaan, shiiiit, I ain't never had gun game to begin with, but somehow I'm on a majority of top dust players quite a few times. Hell, I wrecked disgruntled rednecks and beaners on BF3 back when that was popular in the tank. Guess I'm just a born and bred vehicle guy. But honestly, I have the opportunity to buy some new games like all these FPS games you all have been ranting about, but sort of like you guys I have too much going on IRL like work, USAF, family, etc. to do crap.
Aside from that, I'm sort of competitived out, if that makes sense. Dust gave me enough stress and competition for at least a good ten years. So the moment there's an online game that's completely casual, and slow paced and doesn't require me to scream "**** you too, Skelly", I'll look into it. For now, I neckbeard Mod Skyrim.
99% of what Derrith says is stupidity. -D3lta Blitzkrieg
Bittervet ADS pilot, redheads are hot.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2016.03.26 04:53:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Difference is when the vets played the playing field was closer..I had 6m sp now 82..the disparity in sp you see now wasn't a big deal back then.. I do fine in most games but seeing as siege is team based a soloist such as myself doesn't enjoy it, guess that means I lack skill
Destiny is all about what is fotm for pvp so not much of a difference from dust
I see what you're saying at this point dust takes no skill but as for gaming I really don't anymore..there's nothing I enjoy anymore..=ƒÿ¡ What you on about? Back when dust first came out it would take you a months to get 6mil sp and into a proto suit. Now you can get into a protosuit and 6mil SP in 1 day. With virtually no SP limit cap for a week and triple stacking booster. It was much harder to compete when dust first came out because you had to grind so much to get into a proto suit then you would just beat the sh*t out of the people who did not. I would much rather have 20mil sp and take on someone with 100mil sp, f*ck make it 1bil sp now. Rather than when dust was young and have 1mil sp and go up against someone with 10mil sp. Back when "Vets" played the difference between 1mil sp and 10mil SP was weeks(Months) of grinding and a militia suit and proto suit. "Vet" titles make me sick and i started playing before most others. The vet title isnt one earned from skill or a badge of privilege. It is just stating a mere fact. If you were here at a certain timeline then you are a vet.....and nothing can be changed about it. Would be like saying youre not in the 1% if you were worth $30B. @ Heim....i'm with you...there is no game that is enjoyable enough for me to keep my attention. I'm not going to play a game that i dont like for **** measuring puposes.
The only reason i am so critical of the word "vet" is because of how people have come to use it. It should be that a person is a vet because they been playing this game for a long time. But instead it started to become used as a word of entitlement to belittle other without having any current skill or accomplishments.
Keys and lockboxes are the root of all evil.
Buying dead and inactive corporations
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aa324
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.03.29 02:49:00 -
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Shepherd Grey wrote:aa324 wrote: The reason why you have not been seeing similar performance levels on other games is because DUST was a pretty simple FPS with a very small community in comparison to other video games of it's category.
Some of the vets I've spoken to have noted that Regnyum is amazing at DUST, easily one of the top players, but when playing COD (I think COD was the specific game mentioned by this person) Regnyum wasn't nearly at the same performance level compared to DUST.
That's just a great example and quote from one of the older well respected vets in the game.
Appreciate the compliment, whoever you are. Honestly, this is one guy I would have liked to see on level field....considering the insurmountable amount of sh!t he talked about/towards my organization when he was a member of the incumbent. Between us two, if this is indeed true, it explains alot....as it would with many others (again, reference Kaiser "one-trick pony"). Even some of my own friends who were DUST legends admit how badly they get rekt on rainbow. Don't mistake my competitive spirit for bitterness - it is simply comical too see how loud a rooster crows, when surrounded by mere hens. One cool takeaway from all this is the transfer over from DUST. Our team consists of 90% players from DUST (Kalash, Silver, Alias, MMG, Solar, Zstorm, DK), the remainder some old GB friends. Our name is a respectful nod to the trials and tribulations we all faced for 3 years - Working As Intended. Hopefully we can climb out of our current Bad News Bears status on the team ladder. As much BS as we all put up with from CCP, the bonds made are invaluable.
Believe me, I definitely know what you mean. Lots of people like to talk "trash"; let them. I have reformed back to my old ways of allowing other people to dig their own graves.
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Dust User
Opus Arcana
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Posted - 2016.03.29 04:20:00 -
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Here's the MLG shepherd grey going 1-10 in his ADS.
http://imgur.com/04AwmMJ
Garbage pail player.
That was also from the match that produced this gem.
http://youtu.be/c3Wz8CiCSFg
Dust User for CPM 3.
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aa324
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.03.29 05:09:00 -
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I'm sure you've done just as bad, if not worse, in your DUST career. :3
Nothing to be ashamed of!
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John ShepardIII
Second-Nature
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Posted - 2016.03.29 07:04:00 -
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Shepherd Grey wrote:While I am here, I have noticed something that I wanted to bring up and hear some opinions...
Most of you have moved on to new games. I see AE/OH on World of Tanks, along with ESO and others. Now so many are on Division.
Let me ask you guys this. You all sit here and talk about who was the greatest, is the greatest, whatever. Best shooters and gun game. Where are all you scrubs on Rainbow? on Rocket? These dust stories and web series, you guys say nothing matters after the vets left. I challenge that wholeheartedly. Dust was/is an mmorpg. Things are OP, based on skill/grinding/gear/etc. How come none of you can transfer this "skill" you claim to have, to a game that does not allow you to grind your way to having a clear competitive advantage over your opponents? Instead, you move on to another mmorpg, where you can smash hobby noobs who simply don't have the time to get what you have. Or you can devise an OP setup that puts you in front of someone who, in fact, is skillfully better than you.
After getting away from Dust and returning to my Gamebattles/MLG roots, it dawned on me how much time I wasted on a game that was not based on skill - but on time, on meta. Obviously skill plays a role, but seriously? I really expected to see many of the titans from Dust flock to what is clearly the most evenly-matched competitive titles out there. But sadly, I see none.
When I say I played Dust514 to a competitive gamer, am I pretty much saying I played World of Tanks for 2 1/2 years? I spent $60 on Division....made it to like level 20. Garbage gear grind. Grand Theft Assassin's Borderland Destiny.
i still want to be competitive in games, but if i do i go full 100% try hard or i dont go competitive at all and right now i dont play much
Have No Fear. John Shepard Is Here!
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2016.03.29 14:27:00 -
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Noneck....would be top 5 choice, for me, if I was building the ultimate team. Only played with him a little bit enough to know his rage and side comments are insane though.
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2016.03.29 15:38:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Noneck....would be top 5 choice, for me, if I was building the ultimate team. Only played with him a little bit enough to know his rage and side comments are insane though. Against SOG? Wish I could have watched the entire match to see if he was the only one pushing..I've had those pc's..not very fun |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2016.03.29 16:01:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Noneck....would be top 5 choice, for me, if I was building the ultimate team. Only played with him a little bit enough to know his rage and side comments are insane though. Against SOG? Wish I could have watched the entire match to see if he was the only one pushing..I've had those pc's..not very fun
Dust user also posted up some of the scores.......it didn't look like he was the only one pushing. But I know what it feels like to feel like you're the only one.
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Funkmaster Whale
Whale Pod
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Posted - 2016.03.30 19:07:00 -
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Dust wasn't fun because it was a perfectly balanced ultra-competitive shooter. It never was because of that.
It was fun because of the human interaction, the meta game. The whole aspect of assaulting what someone else has and taking it from them, and the stories that came from it. The shooty stuff was just like any game, but it was what was happening outside of matches that really made the game fun.
Once the community died it became another bland shooter.
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DeCaPiTaTiNg AnGeL
Feedback 'N' Alts
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Posted - 2016.05.17 05:00:00 -
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CSGO is the most competitive game and after playing it i realised that...im still a badass without a controller
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7th Son 7
Hakuna Matatah Inc
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Posted - 2016.05.17 17:44:00 -
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While I agree 100% that meta and not skill plays one of the biggest roles in deciding victorys, how do you know what games everyone is currently playing? I don't use 7thGÇÖs name in any other game, and my gamer tag does not say 7th anything. Your also assuming everyone got the exact same hardware and games you do, or that some players did'nt even upgrade yet.
Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ----- OSHO
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2016.05.17 17:52:00 -
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7th Son 7 wrote:While I agree 100% that meta and not skill plays one of the biggest roles in deciding victorys, how do you know what games everyone is currently playing? I don't use 7thGÇÖs name in any other game, and my gamer tag does not say 7th anything. Your also assuming everyone got the exact same hardware and games you do, or that some players did'nt even upgrade yet. My name is different in every game..habit of mine trying to find a name I like |
Dust User
Opus Arcana
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Posted - 2016.05.17 20:51:00 -
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7th Son 7 wrote:While I agree 100% that meta and not skill plays one of the biggest roles in deciding victorys, how do you know what games everyone is currently playing? I don't use 7thGÇÖs name in any other game, and my gamer tag does not say 7th anything. Your also assuming everyone got the exact same hardware and games you do, or that some players did'nt even upgrade yet.
Even if you did use the same name nobody knows who 7th is anyways.
Dust User for CPM 3.
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
5586
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Posted - 2016.05.20 07:34:00 -
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I will be playing overwatch.
Been in competitive clans since 1.3 and 1.4 and Olah Dos. I was pretty good at Destiny (top .5% KDA combining xbone and ps4) until I quit (Frost Kitty actually managed to get into the top 250 like a ******* boss)
and FA had a pretty good time in PS2 for a few months (I couldn't stay with it because I didn't feel invested in it...nothing felt like an accomplishment because it was just hordes of nobodies)
I got to lvl 30 in the beta for overwatch...still on the fence about ps4 or pc.
I played the division and was pretty decent but the hackers and stale endgame content left me wanting. They needed to allow clans to fight and provide stats and awards for holding portions of the DZ or something...and blue sigs were broken as ****.
Siege was fun, just not enough friends playing it to stick with it.
Overwatch honestly was SO ******* good and I think it could be a long term game for me like Dust was.
I'm irrelevant, feel free to ignore me. :)
No matter what. FAmily
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