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StarVenger Horizons' Edge The-Office 152	Posted - 2016.02.10 18:07:00 - [1] - Quote I'm thinking at least one year before the PC version happens, if it ever does. There was nothing in the info given stating the next game has even been given the go ahead. They are simply "developing", just as they did Legion. We'll see how far they are at Fanfest. AKA Meisterjager Jagermeister L1 FW GallAss to the CORE---Founder of Serpentis UNION of the SNAKE Horizons' Edge FTW
Jonny D Buelle The Warlords Legion 2	Posted - 2016.02.10 18:08:00 - [2] - Quote Soon(TM) Director of T-W-L Lord of Scrubs Praise the Sun!
Soto Gallente 897	Posted - 2016.02.10 18:08:00 - [3] - Quote Jonny D Buelle wrote: Soon(TM) Gosh dang it Jonny! Ex-news reporter for The Scope
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2016.02.10 18:09:00 - [4] - Quote StarVenger wrote: I'm thinking at least one year before the PC version happens, if it ever does. There was nothing in the info given stating the next game has even been given the go ahead. They are simply "developing", just as they did Legion. We'll see how far they are at Fanfest. This is not the same as Legion. Remember that all CCP would tell us for months is that we would receive NO information whatsoever until they had a concrete plan and a product to show us. We're being shown the product at FanFest this year, which means they have a concrete plan and this is not another "Project". Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Soto Gallente 898	Posted - 2016.02.10 18:09:00 - [5] - Quote StarVenger wrote: I'm thinking at least one year before the PC version happens, if it ever does. There was nothing in the info given stating the next game has even been given the go ahead. They are simply "developing", just as they did Legion. We'll see how far they are at Fanfest. I think they are probably working on the Alpha currently, and they said they would have something to show us by fanfest, so I would think the beta would be released late 2016 or early 2017, with the full release coming mid to late 2017 Ex-news reporter for The Scope
maybe deadcatz Serris Inc 2	Posted - 2016.02.10 18:10:00 - [6] - Quote Jonny D Buelle wrote: SoonGäó(hahhahah lol what do you really expect?) Ftfy. Ha!You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
StarVenger Horizons' Edge The-Office 153	Posted - 2016.02.10 18:11:00 - [7] - Quote They had something to show us at FANFEST 2014 too. A tree. . AKA Meisterjager Jagermeister L1 FW GallAss to the CORE---Founder of Serpentis UNION of the SNAKE Horizons' Edge FTW
Avallo Kantor 1	Posted - 2016.02.10 18:12:00 - [8] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: StarVenger wrote: I'm thinking at least one year before the PC version happens, if it ever does. There was nothing in the info given stating the next game has even been given the go ahead. They are simply "developing", just as they did Legion. We'll see how far they are at Fanfest. This is not the same as Legion. Remember that all CCP would tell us for months is that we would receive NO information whatsoever until they had a concrete plan and a product to show us. We're being shown the product at FanFest this year, which means they have a concrete plan and this is not another "Project". Yes, the one benefit to CCP's new policy is that when they actually -do- tell us something its not some pipe-dream or far off plan but something that they have already taken action on, seen feasibility, and have a realistic timeframe on getting things done. That time frame may be a year or so out, like with the initial reveal of citadels, but it is something that is happening and they likely are holding out on marketing relevant info until Fanfest when they can get the biggest bang for their announcement. All they did here is give us a heads up so we wouldn't get ... well... fanfest'ed again. "Mind Blown" - CCP Rattati
Radiant Pancake3 Y.A.M.A.H 4	Posted - 2016.02.10 18:14:00 - [9] - Quote It isn't dust 2.0 if it's a totally new game... It will only have a lot of similarities that dust had.... I have a Fan!
Jonny D Buelle The Warlords Legion 2	Posted - 2016.02.10 18:20:00 - [10] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: Jonny D Buelle wrote: SoonGäó(hahhahah lol what do you really expect?) Ftfy. But... I'm not laughing... I'm crying! T_T Director of T-W-L Lord of Scrubs Praise the Sun!

Nirwanda Vaughns 1	Posted - 2016.02.10 20:29:00 - [11] - Quote I'm thinking sooner than most are expecting. personally its always been my belief that CCP never stopped working on Legion/Dust 2.0 so choices for me are the closed beta will start just after fanfest this year for FF atendees and perhaps former players. failing that if CCP don't think its quite ready, i'd say a year from now at FF2017 or simultaneous release with EVE's Citadel patch or 2016 major winter patch Please fix my C-II hitpoints!! Jesus and I love you :)
SHERIFF joe arapio 0ther.Haven 464	Posted - 2016.02.10 20:30:00 - [12] - Quote Alpha is being released in July. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
da GAND Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2016.02.10 20:36:00 - [13] - Quote If what they showed at 2014 is what they've been working on for almost 2 years then maybe a open beta sometime next year and If so then maybe a release in 2018. Holy shite I just realized all these years have past by, and this game is still meh on the ps3. Why did so many fools give CCP $$$ ?
Atiim Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 16	Posted - 2016.02.10 20:51:00 - [14] - Quote Radiant Pancake3 wrote: It isn't dust 2.0 if it's a totally new game... It will only have a lot of similarities that dust had.... I'm prety sure that's oxymoronic. It can't be "Totally NewGäó" if it still has a lot of similarities to the previous product. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 3	Posted - 2016.02.10 20:55:00 - [15] - Quote Atiim wrote: Radiant Pancake3 wrote: It isn't dust 2.0 if it's a totally new game... It will only have a lot of similarities that dust had.... I'm prety sure that's oxymoronic. It can't be "Totally NewGäó" if it still has a lot of similarities to the previous product. Tell that to every marketing firm on the planet. Congressional staffers are more intelligent than the people I find on these forums.
Jonny D Buelle The Warlords Legion 2	Posted - 2016.02.10 20:59:00 - [16] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Atiim wrote: Radiant Pancake3 wrote: It isn't dust 2.0 if it's a totally new game... It will only have a lot of similarities that dust had.... I'm prety sure that's oxymoronic. It can't be "Totally NewGäó" if it still has a lot of similarities to the previous product. Tell that to every marketing firm on the planet. You loved our ninja extract, you loved our ninja bullet! Now check out our new blender, the ninja ninja! Director of T-W-L Lord of Scrubs Praise the Sun!
Justice Darling Horizons' Edge The-Office 224	Posted - 2016.02.10 21:41:00 - [17] - Quote StarVenger wrote: I'm thinking at least one year before the PC version happens, if it ever does. There was nothing in the info given stating the next game has even been given the go ahead. They are simply "developing", just as they did Legion. We'll see how far they are at Fanfest. If i had to put some numbers on it i would say 730 days after Dust is shut down and 365 days for pre alpha then another 182.5 days before closed beta then 91.25 days for open beta then another 91.25 days before new PC game is out! But that is just my road map so don't hold me to it bro It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 590	Posted - 2016.02.10 21:53:00 - [18] - Quote StarVenger wrote: I'm thinking at least one year before the PC version happens, if it ever does. There was nothing in the info given stating the next game has even been given the go ahead. They are simply "developing", just as they did Legion. We'll see how far they are at Fanfest. SOONGäó indeed I would say you called it perfectly tho I am leaning more towards 1.5 years to beta, 2 years to final release, and a 70% chance it never even happens. If fanfest is nothing but another of CCPs famous trailers then I am done with them totally. I am not saying I expect to see something playable but I want to see a fully flushed out plan. Considering they have had 2 years since they first tried to abandon Dust I think a full game plan is the least we can ask for. I have already put my 2 Eve accounts into stasis, aka I stopped paying for them and they have gone to deactivated status. If CCP can not show that their heads have been removed from their rectal region then I can not in good thinking ever give them money again. The epidemic of horrible decision making at CCP is going to be their undoing an personally I do not want any more of my money to go down with that ship.
lamo guys Corrosive Synergy 237	Posted - 2016.02.11 00:25:00 - [19] - Quote I would hope its sooner then that because people are going to find something to play, and may like it enough not to come back! I would think they would realize this. But what do I know. Don't blink it will be over quick
da GAND Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2016.02.11 00:36:00 - [20] - Quote lamo guys wrote: I would hope its sooner then that because people are going to find something to play, and may like it enough not to come back! I would think they would realize this. But what do I know. The wait may just be so long that people forget about this game and not look back. Then CCP would have to do huge advertising or somehow remind the veterans of this game of what that one shite f2p shooter on the ps3 back in the day. Why did so many fools give CCP $$$ ?

LOOKMOM NOHANDS 592	Posted - 2016.02.11 00:38:00 - [21] - Quote lamo guys wrote: I would hope its sooner then that because people are going to find something to play, and may like it enough not to come back! I would think they would realize this. But what do I know. Honestly I think CCP would rather everyone forget about Dust 514 before the next game is released. Dust has essentially been a negative PR magnet and will serve as a measure for the new game if it is released really soon. I can see the negativity on day 1 of beta now. Quote: CCP releases Eve: Unity. Similar to their previously failed FPS Dust 514, Eve: Unity is missing critical content that solidifies the MMO experience. Players are yet again forced to select from an incomplete line of racial suit variants. Weapon selection has been stepped up since Dust 514, presenting the question of balancing, only on a grander scale. Will this be another endless nerf and buff game to milk cash out of FOTM chasers? Overall it does seem that CCP learned the minimal amount of lessons from Dust 514 thanks to the choice to build a whole new team and once again start from scratch in their pursuit to add a FPS to their Eve universe. This may only be the beta of Eve: Unity but the same issues from Dust 514 seem to be repeating them self.
da GAND Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2016.02.11 00:43:00 - [22] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: lamo guys wrote: I would hope its sooner then that because people are going to find something to play, and may like it enough not to come back! I would think they would realize this. But what do I know. Honestly I think CCP would rather everyone forget about Dust 514 before the next game is released. Dust has essentially been a negative PR magnet and will serve as a measure for the new game if it is released really soon. I can see the negativity on day 1 of beta now. Quote: CCP releases Eve: Unity. Similar to their previously failed FPS Dust 514, Eve: Unity is missing critical content that solidifies the MMO experience. Players are yet again forced to select from an incomplete line of racial suit variants. Weapon selection has been stepped up since Dust 514, presenting the question of balancing, only on a grander scale. Will this be another endless nerf and buff game to milk cash out of FOTM chasers? Overall it does seem that CCP learned the minimal amount of lessons from Dust 514 thanks to the choice to build a whole new team and once again start from scratch in their pursuit to add a FPS to their Eve universe. This may only be the beta of Eve: Unity but the same issues from Dust 514 seem to be repeating them self. Holy shite lol I'm afraid that I wouldn't be surprised if this somehow actually happened Why did so many fools give CCP $$$ ?
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 593	Posted - 2016.02.11 00:53:00 - [23] - Quote da GAND wrote: Holy shite lol I'm afraid that I wouldn't be surprised if this somehow actually happened Look at this announcement that the game would be shutdown and the new game would be on PC and think about just how close they came to PERFECTLY repeating the mistakes of fanfest 14. Learning from their mistakes at any real measurable rate is obviously not the strong suit. Something tells me Frame and Rattati literally had to jump up and down screaming fanfest 14 just to get to say what they did when they did. Makes you wonder why so many of us see this new project as already being vaporware with a few trailers before anything has even been shown. CCP realizes that they have lost their grasp on being a unique company and is struggling to get this status back with the whole VR push. The difference is they are already in contest with real AAA studios and it is hard to see this ending well for them.
da GAND Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2016.02.11 01:19:00 - [24] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: da GAND wrote: Holy shite lol I'm afraid that I wouldn't be surprised if this somehow actually happened Look at this announcement that the game would be shutdown and the new game would be on PC and think about just how close they came to PERFECTLY repeating the mistakes of fanfest 14. Learning from their mistakes at any real measurable rate is obviously not the strong suit. Something tells me Frame and Rattati literally had to jump up and down screaming fanfest 14 just to get to say what they did when they did. Makes you wonder why so many of us see this new project as already being vaporware with a few trailers before anything has even been shown. CCP realizes that they have lost their grasp on being a unique company and is struggling to get this status back with the whole VR push. The difference is they are already in contest with real AAA studios and it is hard to see this ending well for them. It sort of feels like it's way too late for CCP to actually make a push towards making their full potential with their products the EVE universe(EVE,Dust,Valkyrie) since it seems like they have actual competition like Star Citizen and Elite: Dangerous. But they are going ahead with it so they may just be able to pull it off. Why did so many fools give CCP $$$ ?
StarVenger Horizons' Edge The-Office 171	Posted - 2016.02.11 02:46:00 - [25] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Look at this announcement that the game would be shutdown and the new game would be on PC and think about just how close they came to PERFECTLY repeating the mistakes of fanfest 14. Learning from their mistakes at any real measurable rate is obviously not the strong suit The way I see it, this is not just a NEAR repeat of fanfest 14; this is fulfillment of the promise of fanfest 14. "DUST is flawed, we are killing it and moving it to PC." lamo guys wrote: I would hope its sooner then that because people are going to find something to play, and may like it enough not to come back! I would think they would realize this. But what do I know. Maybe they did realize this; enter CCP Ratatti to keep it going for two more years. So perhaps they actually have two years worth of progress on 2.0 and indeed will have an alpha in July. However, by the highly reserved tone of the announcement, and cuz CCP, I am inclined to hedge my bet on at least 1 year. AKA Meisterjager Jagermeister L1 FW GallAss to the CORE---Founder of Serpentis UNION of the SNAKE Horizons' Edge FTW
Immortal John Ripper 30	Posted - 2016.02.11 02:50:00 - [26] - Quote If CCP hires me tonight, I will have it out to you guys by tomorrow. ReversePyschology Give me more likes.
General John Ripper 30	Posted - 2016.02.11 02:50:00 - [27] - Quote If CCP hires me tonight, I will have it out to you guys by tomorrow. ReversePyschology Give me more likes.
StarVenger Horizons' Edge The-Office 172	Posted - 2016.02.11 02:53:00 - [28] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: If CCP hires me tonight, I will have it out to you guys by tomorrow. With tacos? AKA Meisterjager Jagermeister L1 FW GallAss to the CORE---Founder of Serpentis UNION of the SNAKE Horizons' Edge FTW
da GAND Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2016.02.11 03:02:00 - [29] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: If CCP hires me tonight, I will have it out to you guys by tomorrow. Why haven't they hired you yet? Why did so many fools give CCP $$$ ?
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 2	Posted - 2016.02.11 09:06:00 - [30] - Quote StarVenger wrote: They had something to show us at FANFEST 2014 too. A tree. . Hmm... speaking about life, wouldn't it be cool if there was alien wildlife trying to attack you, too? Or little alien bunnies hopping around? XD #HYPE for EVE: Phoenix May God have mercy for my enemies because I won't. - George S. Patton Jr. 2000 likes yay :D

Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 422	Posted - 2016.02.11 10:44:00 - [31] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: I'm thinking sooner than most are expecting. personally its always been my belief that CCP never stopped working on Legion/Dust 2.0 so choices for me are the closed beta will start just after fanfest this year for FF atendees and perhaps former players. failing that if CCP don't think its quite ready, i'd say a year from now at FF2017 or simultaneous release with EVE's Citadel patch or 2016 major winter patch I do so hope you're right! I really want to be part of the closed beta.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 422	Posted - 2016.02.11 10:49:00 - [32] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: StarVenger wrote: I'm thinking at least one year before the PC version happens, if it ever does. There was nothing in the info given stating the next game has even been given the go ahead. They are simply "developing", just as they did Legion. We'll see how far they are at Fanfest. SOONGäó indeed I would say you called it perfectly tho I am leaning more towards 1.5 years to beta, 2 years to final release, and a 70% chance it never even happens. If fanfest is nothing but another of CCPs famous trailers then I am done with them totally. I am not saying I expect to see something playable but I want to see a fully flushed out plan. Considering they have had 2 years since they first tried to abandon Dust I think a full game plan is the least we can ask for. I have already put my 2 Eve accounts into stasis, aka I stopped paying for them and they have gone to deactivated status. If CCP can not show that their heads have been removed from their rectal region then I can not in good thinking ever give them money again. The epidemic of horrible decision making at CCP is going to be their undoing an personally I do not want any more of my money to go down with that ship. CCP's treatment of us (me) in closing down a game that's supposed to be persistent (as with EvE) has made me think in the same vein. I fully expected a port at some point, unless somehow they managed to keep it running on PS3. To find out there is no port (I predicted this) but there's also no continuity on the PS3, is well nigh intolerable to me.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 422	Posted - 2016.02.11 11:05:00 - [33] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: da GAND wrote: Holy shite lol I'm afraid that I wouldn't be surprised if this somehow actually happened Look at this announcement that the game would be shutdown and the new game would be on PC and think about just how close they came to PERFECTLY repeating the mistakes of fanfest 14. Learning from their mistakes at any real measurable rate is obviously not the strong suit. Something tells me Frame and Rattati literally had to jump up and down screaming fanfest 14 just to get to say what they did when they did. Makes you wonder why so many of us see this new project as already being vaporware with a few trailers before anything has even been shown. CCP realizes that they have lost their grasp on being a unique company and is struggling to get this status back with the whole VR push. The difference is they are already in contest with real AAA studios and it is hard to see this ending well for them. CCP needs to get back to their persistent New Eden EvE universe, with integrated versions of other games that allows people to play whatever roles they want, in a spaceship, on the ground, in a fighter, whatever. The idea that we are to be presented with a plethora of games, all supposedly set in New Eden, but none of them integrating, and therefore losing so much potential, is enough to make me turn my back on them. I fully expected Dust to be persistent, as is EvE and as it was meant to be, integrated into the EvE universe. To find out first that it's not, in any really meaningful way, and now, that it will simply cease to be, with no port even attempted, is too much for me.
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2016.02.11 13:48:00 - [34] - Quote da GAND wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: da GAND wrote: Holy shite lol I'm afraid that I wouldn't be surprised if this somehow actually happened Look at this announcement that the game would be shutdown and the new game would be on PC and think about just how close they came to PERFECTLY repeating the mistakes of fanfest 14. Learning from their mistakes at any real measurable rate is obviously not the strong suit. Something tells me Frame and Rattati literally had to jump up and down screaming fanfest 14 just to get to say what they did when they did. Makes you wonder why so many of us see this new project as already being vaporware with a few trailers before anything has even been shown. CCP realizes that they have lost their grasp on being a unique company and is struggling to get this status back with the whole VR push. The difference is they are already in contest with real AAA studios and it is hard to see this ending well for them. It sort of feels like it's way too late for CCP to actually make a push towards making their full potential with their products the EVE universe(EVE,Dust,Valkyrie) since it seems like they have actual competition like Star Citizen and Elite: Dangerous. But they are going ahead with it so they may just be able to pull it off. Edit: and ya we aren't that far from fanfest, they may have been planning to announce that they were shutting down dust514 at fanfest wow lol. You know, at a certain point people have got to eventually realize that neither of those games is any threat to EVE Online or even New Eden as a whole. You realize that both of those games are built from the ground up to NOT be player driven the way EVE Online is? Elite: Dangerous only just recently started allowing player groups to apply to possibly be accepted as entities within the galaxy. And that still does nothing about how the largest group of players you can have in gameplay is 4, because if you try and do any cooperative activities with anyone outside your Wing, you never know who's going to get the payout while everyone else gets nothing. Star Citizen is going to have a "PvP Slider" that allows people in "high-security" regions of the game to pretty much completely remove any contact with other players in what is supposed to be an MMO. Players can make Organizations that work like Corporations in EVE, but territorial ownership and warfare will not be a part of this as the development team feels that would not benefit the game. There's also no means for players to build anything or influence the game economically. At least Elite: Dangerous uses the Community Goals system to provide a little variety even though they still have NPCs making everything. CCP is NOT under threat by either of those games. All three games have positives and negatives and while they may appeal to some of the same people, they are also built to appeal to different kinds of people. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Avallo Kantor 1	Posted - 2016.02.11 16:30:00 - [35] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: -snip- CCP needs to get back to their persistent New Eden EvE universe, with integrated versions of other games that allows people to play whatever roles they want, in a spaceship, on the ground, in a fighter, whatever. The idea that we are to be presented with a plethora of games, all supposedly set in New Eden, but none of them integrating, and therefore losing so much potential, is enough to make me turn my back on them. I fully expected Dust to be persistent, as is EvE and as it was meant to be, integrated into the EvE universe. To find out first that it's not, in any really meaningful way, and now, that it will simply cease to be, with no port even attempted, is too much for me. The problem with that is that it is not a simple matter at all to implement. As EVE stands the same techniques they use to allow thousand + player battles also inhibits any meaningful fighter role from interacting with EVE ships in the same space. (Server tick is too slow for fast paced action) The only way you could even conceivably have it is have some complicated mirror set up where one server is the EVE side, and the other server is Valk side, with the two servers having to talk to each other in set intervals to help relay positions of EVE ships for Valk, and for EVE it would be almost impossible for them to interact with the fighters short of seeing "Fighters" being present. For that to even work however requires both games to be fully independently realized and made before the technology for such a psudeo-link could be realized. Mobius Wyvern wrote: You know, at a certain point people have got to eventually realize that neither of those games is any threat to EVE Online or even New Eden as a whole. You realize that both of those games are built from the ground up to NOT be player driven the way EVE Online is? Elite: Dangerous only just recently started allowing player groups to apply to possibly be accepted as entities within the galaxy. And that still does nothing about how the largest group of players you can have in gameplay is 4, because if you try and do any cooperative activities with anyone outside your Wing, you never know who's going to get the payout while everyone else gets nothing. Star Citizen is going to have a "PvP Slider" that allows people in "high-security" regions of the game to pretty much completely remove any contact with other players in what is supposed to be an MMO. Players can make Organizations that work like Corporations in EVE, but territorial ownership and warfare will not be a part of this as the development team feels that would not benefit the game. There's also no means for players to build anything or influence the game economically. At least Elite: Dangerous uses the Community Goals system to provide a little variety even though they still have NPCs making everything. CCP is NOT under threat by either of those games. All three games have positives and negatives and while they may appeal to some of the same people, they are also built to appeal to different kinds of people. I agree with Mobius. Just because there are more than one "space mmo" does not mean that they appeal to the same group of people anymore than Lord of the Rings, Neverwinter, Guild Wars II, and World of Warcraft all appeal to the same group as being "Fantasy MMOs". I would even argue the differences between EVE and these other games are more extreme than the fantasy examples, as Wyvern stated. Quite honestly, EVE could have any sort of genre skin over it and I would still be attracted to it. It could have been fantasy where ships are replaced with magical knights, archers, and wizards, or one where you are playing a psudeo-modern world setting. The things that keep people playing EVE, and to a certain extent why DUST has managed to keep it's community for so long, is not simply the genre skin, but the meat of the mechanics that provide an interesting sandbox experience that allows for meaningful player interaction and choice. That's why I always find it strange when people list these games as direct competitors, because thats just looking at surface genre. The meat of these games are wildly different, and there may be some players who like both gameplay styles. However you won't be getting your EVE fix in either of those games. "Mind Blown" - CCP Rattati
General Mosquito Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 446	Posted - 2016.02.11 16:55:00 - [36] - Quote Avallo Kantor wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: StarVenger wrote: I'm thinking at least one year before the PC version happens, if it ever does. There was nothing in the info given stating the next game has even been given the go ahead. They are simply "developing", just as they did Legion. We'll see how far they are at Fanfest. This is not the same as Legion. Remember that all CCP would tell us for months is that we would receive NO information whatsoever until they had a concrete plan and a product to show us. We're being shown the product at FanFest this year, which means they have a concrete plan and this is not another "Project". Yes, the one benefit to CCP's new policy is that when they actually -do- tell us something its not some pipe-dream or far off plan but something that they have already taken action on, seen feasibility, and have a realistic timeframe on getting things done. . Pretty sure they said something about working on 1.3, since you want to wear rose coloured glasses. Jesus, its like some of you are wholly incapable of basing judgements using past behaviours as evidence. The Attorney General - Mr. Hybrid Vayu
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 3	Posted - 2016.02.11 17:08:00 - [37] - Quote General Mosquito wrote: Avallo Kantor wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: StarVenger wrote: I'm thinking at least one year before the PC version happens, if it ever does. There was nothing in the info given stating the next game has even been given the go ahead. They are simply "developing", just as they did Legion. We'll see how far they are at Fanfest. This is not the same as Legion. Remember that all CCP would tell us for months is that we would receive NO information whatsoever until they had a concrete plan and a product to show us. We're being shown the product at FanFest this year, which means they have a concrete plan and this is not another "Project". Yes, the one benefit to CCP's new policy is that when they actually -do- tell us something its not some pipe-dream or far off plan but something that they have already taken action on, seen feasibility, and have a realistic timeframe on getting things done. . Pretty sure they said something about working on 1.3, since you want to wear rose coloured glasses. Jesus, its like some of you are wholly incapable of basing judgements using past behaviours as evidence. You do realize that 1.3 was shut down by someone above CCP Ratattis authority right? He pretty much admitted to that in the either his Thanks thread or the Future of Dust thread. Or do your rose colored glasses look past blue tags because they dont fit your predetermined sperg rhetoric? Congressional staffers are more intelligent than the people I find on these forums.
Asad Thahab-Jabal Incorruptibles 502	Posted - 2016.02.11 17:17:00 - [38] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: You do realize that 1.3 was shut down by someone above CCP Ratattis authority right? He pretty much admitted to that in the either his Thanks thread or the Future of Dust thread. Or do your rose colored glasses look past blue tags because they dont fit your predetermined sperg rhetoric? Please do not poke the Mosquito. His salt spasms remind me of what can happen if you get too bitter. That is a valuable public service. #PortDust514
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 3	Posted - 2016.02.11 17:19:00 - [39] - Quote Asad Thahab-Jabal wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: You do realize that 1.3 was shut down by someone above CCP Ratattis authority right? He pretty much admitted to that in the either his Thanks thread or the Future of Dust thread. Or do your rose colored glasses look past blue tags because they dont fit your predetermined sperg rhetoric? Please do not poke the Mosquito. His salt spasms remind me of what can happen if you get too bitter. That is a valuable public service. Oh so he's like Taka and Sperger4thedead, entirely too butthurt to function as rational human beings so so they "triumphantly" return to a dead forum of a dead game to salt the eart, got it. EDIT: Ripley Riley, is that you? Congressional staffers are more intelligent than the people I find on these forums.
Asad Thahab-Jabal Incorruptibles 503	Posted - 2016.02.11 17:31:00 - [40] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Ripley Riley, is that you? Nnnooooooo..... wink wink wink wink seizure #PortDust514

General Mosquito Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 446	Posted - 2016.02.11 17:35:00 - [41] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: You do realize that 1.3 was shut down by someone above CCP Ratattis authority right? He pretty much admitted to that in the either his Thanks thread or the Future of Dust thread. Or do your rose colored glasses look past blue tags because they dont fit your predetermined sperg rhetoric? I totally wasn't lying about that awesome update I was promising before we killed the game. Without a reputation for integrity, which CCP has the exact opposite of, there is no reason to give their employees the benefit of the doubt. You make it seem like the EP wouldn't have been in meetings about his titles futures, which is astounding. The Attorney General - Mr. Hybrid Vayu
General Mosquito Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 446	Posted - 2016.02.11 17:38:00 - [42] - Quote Asad Thahab-Jabal wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: You do realize that 1.3 was shut down by someone above CCP Ratattis authority right? He pretty much admitted to that in the either his Thanks thread or the Future of Dust thread. Or do your rose colored glasses look past blue tags because they dont fit your predetermined sperg rhetoric? Please do not poke the Mosquito. His salt spasms remind me of what can happen if you get too bitter. That is a valuable public service. \o/ and here come the fanbois to slurp the last drops. CCP is wishing you were a whale. They might have left the game on for another month if you and yours had spent as many dollars as you typed blindly loyal praise without its due. The Attorney General - Mr. Hybrid Vayu
Asad Thahab-Jabal Incorruptibles 503	Posted - 2016.02.11 17:42:00 - [43] - Quote General Mosquito wrote: \o/ and here come the fanbois to slurp the last drops. CCP is wishing you were a whale. They might have left the game on for another month if you and yours had spent as many dollars as you typed blindly loyal praise without its due. Oh Mosquito, you so crayzeh. You keep doing you. Assuming CCP delivers a new game on PC are you going to join us over there? #PortDust514
General Mosquito Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 450	Posted - 2016.02.11 18:10:00 - [44] - Quote Asad Thahab-Jabal wrote: General Mosquito wrote: \o/ and here come the fanbois to slurp the last drops. CCP is wishing you were a whale. They might have left the game on for another month if you and yours had spent as many dollars as you typed blindly loyal praise without its due. Oh Mosquito, you so crayzeh. You keep doing you. Assuming CCP delivers a new game on PC are you going to join us over there? That is a huge assumption, but I might if the reviews indicate positive progress. Or I might too busy playing BF 7. The Attorney General - Mr. Hybrid Vayu
Soto Gallente 906	Posted - 2016.02.11 18:13:00 - [45] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: StarVenger wrote: They had something to show us at FANFEST 2014 too. A tree. . Hmm... speaking about life, wouldn't it be cool if there was alien wildlife trying to attack you, too? Or little alien bunnies hopping around? XD PVE other than drones? Yes please, I wouldn't mind fighting some drifters. Ex-news reporter for The Scope
Asad Thahab-Jabal Incorruptibles 509	Posted - 2016.02.11 18:19:00 - [46] - Quote General Mosquito wrote: That is a huge assumption, but I might if the reviews indicate positive progress. Or I might too busy playing BF 7. Fair enough. I plan on giving the alleged DUST 2.0 a try. If not, I've got some people wanting me to try Destiny and a few PC games I've been meaning to play. They aren't FPS, but Endless Legend and Pillars of Eternity have been really entertaining. #PortDust514
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2016.02.12 01:42:00 - [47] - Quote General Mosquito wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: You do realize that 1.3 was shut down by someone above CCP Ratattis authority right? He pretty much admitted to that in the either his Thanks thread or the Future of Dust thread. Or do your rose colored glasses look past blue tags because they dont fit your predetermined sperg rhetoric? I totally wasn't lying about that awesome update I was promising before we killed the game. Without a reputation for integrity, which CCP has the exact opposite of, there is no reason to give their employees the benefit of the doubt. You make it seem like the EP wouldn't have been in meetings about his titles futures, which is astounding. I WISH I COULD BE EDGY AND COOL LIKE GENERAL MOSQUITO Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 428	Posted - 2016.02.12 09:33:00 - [48] - Quote Avallo Kantor wrote: The problem with that is that it is not a simple matter at all to implement. As EVE stands the same techniques they use to allow thousand + player battles also inhibits any meaningful fighter role from interacting with EVE ships in the same space. (Server tick is too slow for fast paced action) The only way you could even conceivably have it is have some complicated mirror set up where one server is the EVE side, and the other server is Valk side, with the two servers having to talk to each other in set intervals to help relay positions of EVE ships for Valk, and for EVE it would be almost impossible for them to interact with the fighters short of seeing "Fighters" being present. For that to even work however requires both games to be fully independently realized and made before the technology for such a psudeo-link could be realized. Then I'm out. I'm not disputing that it would be difficult if not actually impossible, but this lobby shooter concept that Dust has degenerated to is NOT what it was supposed to be in the beginning. Perhaps the problem is that I was there right at the beginning when Dust was going to be integrated into EvE (they believed it was possible then) through WiS (Walking in Stations), and I still think they should have continued with that concept. I often read how CCP can't do this or shouldn't do that, because people are stuck in the current lobby shooter concept of Dust, but I wonder whether this is just a matter of context. A lobby shooter is not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the original idea that CCP seemed to have no doubt would work, an extension of the EvE gameplay that allowed for all the things you have said won't work. IE. NOT a lobby shooter, and not Dust as it is on PS3. CCP would necessarily have to redesign the game to get it to work the way it was originally intended. Thus, no "port" as such could work. I would have been happy with a port, but if they're not going to do a port, I want the real thing.


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