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Justice Darling Horizons' Edge 154	Posted - 2016.01.22 20:48:00 - [1] - Quote I thought I had seen everything in this game tell I was just in my blood raiders LAV in my last match and watched my armor and shields disappear with 3 hits of a nova knife WTF the effectiveness of a knife on a car/LAV should only be 1% as it is the lowest you can get for a weapon! It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3	Posted - 2016.01.22 20:52:00 - [2] - Quote How did you take 3 hits from a NK before peeling off? but in all seriousness, nobody will take Dust/Phoenix(P0rtWen?)/Legion seriously if silliness like this is in it. Top lel
Apoleon II 140	Posted - 2016.01.22 21:18:00 - [3] - Quote They are fckng nova knives! And they must run towards you to kill vehicle, so it is okay Sorry for my bad english :$ Port dust, ps5 next gen
maybe deadcatz Serris Inc 2	Posted - 2016.01.22 22:09:00 - [4] - Quote Hmm. Didn't realize the blood raiders lav had such a low horsepower engine. Just run him the fcking hell over. Or outrun him. You have a turret,shoot him with that? I mean come on,now we're whining about nova knives vs vehicles? I swear to lord metapod,the complaining level here in these forums is too damn high! For peters fcking sake! Do you realize that: 1.you have to be within 2m to shank 2.have skillpoints in nova knives 3.charge and slash with the damn things 4.not fcking miss 5.spend a few million skill points on a scout Mk.0 and proto knives and the neccesary modules to shank your little tin car? Somehow its unfair that a pair of knives that cost isk can hurt your little bpo car? Maybe vs a tank it seems weird but Anti-vehicle is so unbalanced already. Not to mention madrugar gv.0s with damn near invincible dual hardeners rolling around farming infantry? Please,save you complaints for when the av and hav of doom are properly balanced. Ha!You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
Radiant Pancake3 Celestial Phoenixes 3	Posted - 2016.01.22 22:28:00 - [5] - Quote Justice Darling wrote: I thought I had seen everything in this game tell I was just in my blood raiders LAV in my last match and watched my armor and shields disappear with 3 hits of a nova knife WTF the effectiveness of a knife on a car/LAV should only be 1% as it is the lowest you can get for a weapon! Lol... You do realize they can kill vehicles right? SoulPancake
Justice Darling Horizons' Edge 154	Posted - 2016.01.22 23:21:00 - [6] - Quote Radiant Pancake3 wrote: Justice Darling wrote: I thought I had seen everything in this game tell I was just in my blood raiders LAV in my last match and watched my armor and shields disappear with 3 hits of a nova knife WTF the effectiveness of a knife on a car/LAV should only be 1% as it is the lowest you can get for a weapon! Lol... You do realize they can kill vehicles right? I do now, and that is the issue! It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
Justice Darling Horizons' Edge 154	Posted - 2016.01.22 23:22:00 - [7] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: Hmm. Didn't realize the blood raiders lav had such a low horsepower engine. Just run him the fcking hell over. Or outrun him. You have a turret,shoot him with that? I mean come on,now we're whining about nova knives vs vehicles? I swear to lord metapod,the complaining level here in these forums is too damn high! For peters fcking sake! Do you realize that: 1.you have to be within 2m to shank 2.have skillpoints in nova knives 3.charge and slash with the damn things 4.not fcking miss 5.spend a few million skill points on a scout Mk.0 and proto knives and the neccesary modules to shank your little tin car? Somehow its unfair that a pair of knives that cost isk can hurt your little bpo car? Maybe vs a tank it seems weird but Anti-vehicle is so unbalanced already. Not to mention madrugar gv.0s with damn near invincible dual hardeners rolling around farming infantry? Please,save you complaints for when the av and hav of doom are properly balanced. A: he just missed me hacking a turret, I jumped back into my LAV and it only took 3 hits to kill it I had just started moving, and it didnt bounce him like it does teammates when i started moving! It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
Justice Darling Horizons' Edge 154	Posted - 2016.01.22 23:23:00 - [8] - Quote Apoleon II wrote: They are fckng nova knives! And they must run towards you to kill vehicle, so it is okay Its a Knife, run out to your car and start hitting it, beat it will not kill the car! It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3	Posted - 2016.01.23 10:00:00 - [9] - Quote Apoleon II wrote: They are fckng nova knives! And they must run towards you to kill vehicle, so it is okay I'm not sure how you actually thought this argument is relevant; I mean, saying the name of something doesn't make what whatever silly thing not silly. That kind of argument is as silly is stating the current year as a valid argument. Top lel
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3	Posted - 2016.01.23 10:01:00 - [10] - Quote Justice Darling wrote: Apoleon II wrote: They are fckng nova knives! And they must run towards you to kill vehicle, so it is okay Its a Knife, run out to your car and start hitting it, beat it will not kill the car! Which is why it's pure silliness, and people won't take this game seriously otherwise, especially a port, if **** like this persists. Top lel

TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 1	Posted - 2016.01.23 11:44:00 - [11] - Quote roflmfao These aren't your ordinary kitchen knives, they will cut through literally everything. Hitting the power cell of the HAV on the back or slicing the hood (engine) of the LAV should cause them to explode from one slice. The poor minscouts who manage to kill the vehicle get caught in the blast radius and die. :( PORTDUST514TOPC May God have mercy for my enemies because I won't. - George S. Patton Jr.
Ten-Sidhe 548	Posted - 2016.01.23 15:28:00 - [12] - Quote Nova knives have a fusion reactor and use shield tech to enclose the heat of reactor along blade, almost like a light saber. More like take a couple thrusts with jackhammer at car, snips with jaws of life, or cuts with hotsaw (Custom car engine powered chainsaws) and see if it runs. Nova Knives do full damage to vehicles, they can cause a lot more structural damage then light rifles.
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 1	Posted - 2016.01.23 16:48:00 - [13] - Quote I went to knife a landed DS, and the pilot picked that moment to hit triangle. He showed up on turret right in front of me. Free dropships man, far out! On topic: I always seem to move before any real damage is done. Do I think it should be removed? Nah. Is it a good feature? Nope. Cadillac has tires that will run 100 miles with a hole saw hole in them. Space tires aren't better than that? Six-seven inch tops (or w/e as I know we are large, but our transports are to our scale, so whatever, small knives) and you expect to cut through tritanium plates? I suppose you could thrust through door and kill driver.. But good luck pulling your arm back out of the molten plating. It's the HAV damage that makes me crush my forehead. I can tank an 80gj sabot. But some little vibroblade can hurt my plating... Lmfaowut (Side note, if you run gunni, let them slash at you. It's funny) The weak spot being .. weak. I can see damage applying there. But to the front? The spot where my armor is at its thickest? With nano repairs running? Gtfo "And god dmn it I will be an artichoke, get off my stalk." ~Dust Fiend~ Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it*~
Radiant Pancake3 Celestial Phoenixes 3	Posted - 2016.01.23 17:09:00 - [14] - Quote Justice Darling wrote: Radiant Pancake3 wrote: Justice Darling wrote: I thought I had seen everything in this game tell I was just in my blood raiders LAV in my last match and watched my armor and shields disappear with 3 hits of a nova knife WTF the effectiveness of a knife on a car/LAV should only be 1% as it is the lowest you can get for a weapon! Lol... You do realize they can kill vehicles right? I do now, and that is the issue! Not really... Also, they're like a light saber... so... Of course they can cut vehicles... SoulPancake
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 12	Posted - 2016.01.23 20:08:00 - [15] - Quote Hello there. I'm the original nova knifer in this game. I have been around this game long enough that nova knives never use to be their own separate weapons until around the codex build. I am not the best and I don't think I have ever admitted to being the best. But I am the first. Let me tell you something about nova knives. They take skill to use. NO I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT SKILL BOOKS. I'm talking about player experience. The kind of experience where you have to die a lot in expensive suits to make any progress with these knives. Even with the buffs they received over the years, they never were truly OP. They still require player experience to this very day. And so far only less than 10 people in the entire history of the game from closed beta to open beta to today have ever complained about the knives being too powerful for anything. Meanwhile the rest of the community laughs at anyone complaining about them being too powerful especially after mentioning that they lost a vehicle or a heavy suit to a pair of nova knives. In all my years of playing Dust primarily as a knifer, I have only successfully killed a few tanks and some LAVs and that's only because of the incompetence of the drivers. Come to think of it, I might have been that knifer that killed your LAV that time. The smarter ones have always (and still do) alluded me and have often killed me in the process either by running me over or having their smaller turrets kill me. Sometimes they even pop out of their tanks to kill me with their HMGs. Overall, my success rate is pathetic even as an experienced knifer. Here are some tips for you. Bring a partner with you. Have him do the driving while you do the hacking. If I start attacking the LAV, the driver can pull away to safety while you hack. Or he can do what most skilled drivers do. Run me over. Smarter players, especially Tank drivers, often fit armor mods which practically eliminates my effectiveness as a knifer while they stay on the move. Even the fastest scout won't be able to catch up. Also, if a knifer is capable of wrecking your vehicle and running that fast, that means he/she is weak as hell. Get out of your vehicle and shoot them because their dropsuit has the strength of a single-ply tissue paper that just got wet. Just giving me a mean stare is enough to put my body into a coma-like state. So knifers have to sacrifice a lot just to be able to kill vehicles that effectively. The Minscout in particular has limited PG, absolutely no ewar bonus beyond that of the cloak bonus, and it's the weakest suit in the entire game. They are better suited for hacking installations and objectives and attacking ground troops than wrecking vehicles. Did I also mention they are expensive as hell to use? If I were you, I would take some advice from the professional drivers who dealt with the likes of me. PS: I have struggled to receive hatemail from my vehicle victims and only received one actual hatemail in the years I have played Dust. The rest of my vehicle victims just salute me for some reason. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 12	Posted - 2016.01.23 20:34:00 - [16] - Quote A few tid bits about the history of the Nova Knives. 1. A lot of people, including me, use to ask CCP to enable us to run with the knives fully charged. But then a glitch popped up (twice in different forms) that enabled a few people to do that. At that point, I quickly learned how much of a bad idea that was. It would make the knives in the current state OP and then CCP would be forced to nerf them which usually (historically) results in CCP overnerfing them like they did with any other item they nerfed. This would have rendered nova knives offically useless and pointless even for me. So I changed my mind and fought against any suggestion to allow us to sprint with the charge held. In the end, CCP fixed the bugs and had the knives deal damage in a curve to address the problem of not being able to stab anyone who is running away from you even with just the insta-strike (no charge). 2. Their hit detection was pathetic. It's a little better today, but still wonky and the users suffer from tunnel vision in CQC situations. So far, there has not been any clear solution to address the tunnel vision and CCP was only able to widen the attack cone a little bit to compensate. 3. The knives may be tailored for the Minmatar Scout, but they are Caldari by design. It explains their hybrid nature. 4. They are the only weapons that I know of that deal 100% damage to both shield and armor. They are not like other weapons which deal more damage to shield than armor or vise versa. 5. They use to be standard issue with every suit in the game back in closed beta. But in order to use them, you have to press and hold the melee button to charge and then attack. Instant strikes did not exist for the knives until later on. Yes, they use to be considered melee attacks. Be thankful that the melee mods don't give bonuses at all to the knives. That's the job of the sidearm damage mods. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Mahal Daj Mahal Tactical Enterprises 220	Posted - 2016.01.23 21:47:00 - [17] - Quote Justice Darling wrote: I thought I had seen everything in this game tell I was just in my blood raiders LAV in my last match and watched my armor and shields disappear with 3 hits of a nova knife WTF the effectiveness of a knife on a car/LAV should only be 1% as it is the lowest you can get for a weapon! It was probably me :) See my Post on Crashes: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2413361#post2413361
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 13	Posted - 2016.01.24 03:14:00 - [18] - Quote I am not a pilot or driver... That being said, I am pretty sure I could get outside of 3m of a knifer if they were attacking me. And if not probably deserved to die. Just be lucky they weren't one of the knifers skilled at taking out drivers on the fly. They exist, though I haven't been able to pull it off myself. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 18	Posted - 2016.01.24 04:34:00 - [19] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: I am not a pilot or driver... That being said, I am pretty sure I could get outside of 3m of a knifer if they were attacking me. And if not probably deserved to die. Just be lucky they weren't one of the knifers skilled at taking out drivers on the fly. They exist, though I haven't been able to pull it off myself. Knife the driver's side door as they pass by. Think toro. Dropsuit Usage Rates
Justice Darling Horizons' Edge 156	Posted - 2016.01.24 14:32:00 - [20] - Quote Mahal Daj wrote: Justice Darling wrote: I thought I had seen everything in this game tell I was just in my blood raiders LAV in my last match and watched my armor and shields disappear with 3 hits of a nova knife WTF the effectiveness of a knife on a car/LAV should only be 1% as it is the lowest you can get for a weapon! It was probably me :) well I'm not mad or anything at the person, that being said, the lore on nova knifes is ret ard ed and really out side of the scope of reality, I'm not sure at this point what the effectiveness is on this weapon vrs vehicles but I'll make some suite and find out, guess i know where my next mil sp are going! It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!

Justice Darling Horizons' Edge 157	Posted - 2016.01.24 14:39:00 - [21] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: I am not a pilot or driver... That being said, I am pretty sure I could get outside of 3m of a knifer if they were attacking me. And if not probably deserved to die. Just be lucky they weren't one of the knifers skilled at taking out drivers on the fly. They exist, though I haven't been able to pull it off myself. You know, the more I read on this, the more I think CCP don't now how far 3 meters is "per google 9.84252 Feet is 3m and 2.5 is 8.2021 feet" so if the range of the knifes is from what I've seen, 2.5m or more why the hell is anyone getting close with knifes if you can kill someone a full NBA player away? Simple way to see what I'm talking about at home boys and girls, get a tape measure that is 10 feet or more, OK now put the tap measure out 8 foot and 2 inch place on floor in front of you, then swing a knife in front of you, per nova knife description ""A close-quarters melee weapon, the nova knife is as deadly a weapon as anything on the battlefield" more like its more deadly then gods smite on the battlefield and every thing within side tape measure should be hit! It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 12	Posted - 2016.01.25 00:01:00 - [22] - Quote Justice Darling wrote: One Eyed King wrote: I am not a pilot or driver... That being said, I am pretty sure I could get outside of 3m of a knifer if they were attacking me. And if not probably deserved to die. Just be lucky they weren't one of the knifers skilled at taking out drivers on the fly. They exist, though I haven't been able to pull it off myself. You know, the more I read on this, the more I think CCP don't now how far 3 meters is "per google 9.84252 Feet is 3m and 2.5 is 8.2021 feet" so if the range of the knifes is from what I've seen, 2.5m or more why the hell is anyone getting close with knifes if you can kill someone a full NBA player away? Simple way to see what I'm talking about at home boys and girls, get a tape measure that is 10 feet or more, OK now put the tap measure out 8 foot and 2 inch place on floor in front of you, then swing a knife in front of you, per nova knife description ""A close-quarters melee weapon, the nova knife is as deadly a weapon as anything on the battlefield" more like its more deadly then gods smite on the battlefield and every thing within side tape measure should be hit! It's more to do with the poor hit detection and trying to account for that for the sake of gameplay balance. Back then, the max range was 2 meters. But because of the poor detection of the knives especially when trying to chase someone using only the insta-strike (no charge), they gave it an extra half meter of range and allowed the knives to deal their damage as a "curve" during Uprising 1.9 if I remember correctly. Even then, people were still complaining that the knives were still nowhere near viable as a primary weapon. The nova knives where then normalized in terms of damage dealt. The standard and advanced nova knives were buffed in damage and normalized for their given tier while the prototype knives were left untouched. Militia nova knives did not exist until just before the sidearm event started. Officer nova knives came after the event and those knives are what make you feel that they are OP due to their insane charge time and high damage profile. However, what keeps them from being OP in reality is that they are so expensive (about 300k ISK a pair). Also, don't talk about comparing reality to a video game that is all about science fiction. Nothing about this game conforms with reality in any way. One more thing. If you're spending your next million SP on knives just because you might feel that it's the next flavor of the month, you will be sorely disappointed in the knives. Come to think of it, maybe you should invest in the knives just so you can see how extremely difficult it is to use. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 21	Posted - 2016.01.25 00:19:00 - [23] - Quote Apoleon II wrote: They are fckng nova knives! And they must run towards you to kill vehicle, so it is okay It's not about how difficult it is for them to get to you. The issue that you are facing is one of suspension of disbelief and in Dust you have to consider that the vehicles you are targeting will have significantly thicker armour than any modern vehicle to the point where a 30cm long knife couldn't even penetrate it let alone hit a vital area. As we have said in other threads it would not be a problem if there was an animation that used the knife to shear open a hatch to toss a grenade in or cut away a segment of armour to allow AV to deal more damage..... but your Nova Knife is the equivalent of running up to a Challenger II with ERA and a 'Streetfighter Kit' and attacking its treads with a butter knife. TL;DR- It's stupid as ***. "That means Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son-of-a-bitch in space." - Unnamed Gunnery Chief, The Citadel*
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 21	Posted - 2016.01.25 00:20:00 - [24] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: Hmm. Didn't realize the blood raiders lav had such a low horsepower engine. Just run him the fcking hell over. Or outrun him. You have a turret,shoot him with that? I mean come on,now we're whining about nova knives vs vehicles? I swear to lord metapod,the complaining level here in these forums is too damn high! For peters fcking sake! Do you realize that: 1.you have to be within 2m to shank 2.have skillpoints in nova knives 3.charge and slash with the damn things 4.not fcking miss 5.spend a few million skill points on a scout Mk.0 and proto knives and the neccesary modules to shank your little tin car? Somehow its unfair that a pair of knives that cost isk can hurt your little bpo car? Maybe vs a tank it seems weird but Anti-vehicle is so unbalanced already. Not to mention madrugar gv.0s with damn near invincible dual hardeners rolling around farming infantry? Please,save you complaints for when the av and hav of doom are properly balanced. Again it's not whining. Nobody in an HAV has actually ever been knifed to death unless it was staged.... seriously. It's just a mechanic that is poorly represented and never should have been introduced. "That means Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son-of-a-bitch in space." - Unnamed Gunnery Chief, The Citadel
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 12	Posted - 2016.01.25 01:01:00 - [25] - Quote True Adamance wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: Hmm. Didn't realize the blood raiders lav had such a low horsepower engine. Just run him the fcking hell over. Or outrun him. You have a turret,shoot him with that? I mean come on,now we're whining about nova knives vs vehicles? I swear to lord metapod,the complaining level here in these forums is too damn high! For peters fcking sake! Do you realize that: 1.you have to be within 2m to shank 2.have skillpoints in nova knives 3.charge and slash with the damn things 4.not fcking miss 5.spend a few million skill points on a scout Mk.0 and proto knives and the neccesary modules to shank your little tin car? Somehow its unfair that a pair of knives that cost isk can hurt your little bpo car? Maybe vs a tank it seems weird but Anti-vehicle is so unbalanced already. Not to mention madrugar gv.0s with damn near invincible dual hardeners rolling around farming infantry? Please,save you complaints for when the av and hav of doom are properly balanced. Again it's not whining. Nobody in an HAV has actually ever been knifed to death unless it was staged.... seriously. It's just a mechanic that is poorly represented and never should have been introduced. To some extent I agree and I think I can blame the previous dev leadership on that. An animation as you pointed out would have helped but that's too late now. Let's just hope #PortDust514 gives us a chance to address that. And for the record, I have recently killed tanks with nova knives. But as I said earlier, those were because the drivers were likely incompetent. So far, skilled drivers escape me easily (with and without killing me in the process). Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Justice Darling Horizons' Edge 157	Posted - 2016.01.25 15:41:00 - [26] - Quote True Adamance wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: Hmm. Didn't realize the blood raiders lav had such a low horsepower engine. Just run him the fcking hell over. Or outrun him. You have a turret,shoot him with that? I mean come on,now we're whining about nova knives vs vehicles? I swear to lord metapod,the complaining level here in these forums is too damn high! For peters fcking sake! Do you realize that: 1.you have to be within 2m to shank 2.have skillpoints in nova knives 3.charge and slash with the damn things 4.not fcking miss 5.spend a few million skill points on a scout Mk.0 and proto knives and the neccesary modules to shank your little tin car? Somehow its unfair that a pair of knives that cost isk can hurt your little bpo car? Maybe vs a tank it seems weird but Anti-vehicle is so unbalanced already. Not to mention madrugar gv.0s with damn near invincible dual hardeners rolling around farming infantry? Please,save you complaints for when the av and hav of doom are properly balanced. Again it's not whining. Nobody in an HAV has actually ever been knifed to death unless it was staged.... seriously. It's just a mechanic that is poorly represented and never should have been introduced. Not true, my corp m8 told me he has been nova'ed before in his HAV, granted the scout wasnt alone but still hitting for 200 dps uncharged and 600 fully charged isnt OP its just nuts! It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
Justice Darling Horizons' Edge 157	Posted - 2016.01.25 15:46:00 - [27] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Justice Darling wrote: One Eyed King wrote: I am not a pilot or driver... That being said, I am pretty sure I could get outside of 3m of a knifer if they were attacking me. And if not probably deserved to die. Just be lucky they weren't one of the knifers skilled at taking out drivers on the fly. They exist, though I haven't been able to pull it off myself. You know, the more I read on this, the more I think CCP don't now how far 3 meters is "per google 9.84252 Feet is 3m and 2.5 is 8.2021 feet" so if the range of the knifes is from what I've seen, 2.5m or more why the hell is anyone getting close with knifes if you can kill someone a full NBA player away? Simple way to see what I'm talking about at home boys and girls, get a tape measure that is 10 feet or more, OK now put the tap measure out 8 foot and 2 inch place on floor in front of you, then swing a knife in front of you, per nova knife description ""A close-quarters melee weapon, the nova knife is as deadly a weapon as anything on the battlefield" more like its more deadly then gods smite on the battlefield and every thing within side tape measure should be hit! It's more to do with the poor hit detection and trying to account for that for the sake of gameplay balance. Back then, the max range was 2 meters. But because of the poor detection of the knives especially when trying to chase someone using only the insta-strike (no charge), they gave it an extra half meter of range and allowed the knives to deal their damage as a "curve" during Uprising 1.9 if I remember correctly. Even then, people were still complaining that the knives were still nowhere near viable as a primary weapon. The nova knives where then normalized in terms of damage dealt. The standard and advanced nova knives were buffed in damage and normalized for their given tier while the prototype knives were left untouched. Militia nova knives did not exist until just before the sidearm event started. Officer nova knives came after the event and those knives are what make you feel that they are OP due to their insane charge time and high damage profile. However, what keeps them from being OP in reality is that they are so expensive (about 300k ISK a pair). Also, don't talk about comparing reality to a video game that is all about science fiction. Nothing about this game conforms with reality in any way. One more thing. If you're spending your next million SP on knives just because you might feel that it's the next flavor of the month, you will be sorely disappointed in the knives. Come to think of it, maybe you should invest in the knives just so you can see how extremely difficult it is to use. If you think ISK don't make something OP your doing something wrong, no amount of isk is going to stop me from using something i can loss 20 to 30 pythons before i care mil each and i still would be ok to us anything dropsuite as is, fact is a knife on armor on a tank lav drop ship should be alot harder then that of a dropsuites that is only point I was trying to make take a plasma cutter to a real tank takes a lot to even scratch it. It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
Radiant Pancake3 Celestial Phoenixes 3	Posted - 2016.01.25 21:47:00 - [28] - Quote True Adamance wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: Hmm. Didn't realize the blood raiders lav had such a low horsepower engine. Just run him the fcking hell over. Or outrun him. You have a turret,shoot him with that? I mean come on,now we're whining about nova knives vs vehicles? I swear to lord metapod,the complaining level here in these forums is too damn high! For peters fcking sake! Do you realize that: 1.you have to be within 2m to shank 2.have skillpoints in nova knives 3.charge and slash with the damn things 4.not fcking miss 5.spend a few million skill points on a scout Mk.0 and proto knives and the neccesary modules to shank your little tin car? Somehow its unfair that a pair of knives that cost isk can hurt your little bpo car? Maybe vs a tank it seems weird but Anti-vehicle is so unbalanced already. Not to mention madrugar gv.0s with damn near invincible dual hardeners rolling around farming infantry? Please,save you complaints for when the av and hav of doom are properly balanced. Again it's not whining. Nobody in an HAV has actually ever been knifed to death unless it was staged.... seriously. It's just a mechanic that is poorly represented and never should have been introduced. I beg to differ. I've done it on multiple occasions. SoulPancake
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 21	Posted - 2016.01.26 00:21:00 - [29] - Quote Fine I'll quantify that with no one worth a damn in a tank has every actually been Nova Knifed to death. There is a mechanic I could tolerate for how Nova Knives do damage to HAV and that is if they fired their blade like a Ballistic Knife. A KEP with a thermally ignited plasma blade fired using a compressed gravity mechanism theoretically could punch through tank armour and drag in super heated air to damage internal systems. "That means Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son-of-a-bitch in space." - Unnamed Gunnery Chief, The Citadel
Justice Darling Horizons' Edge 157	Posted - 2016.01.26 16:14:00 - [30] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Fine I'll quantify that with no one worth a damn in a tank has every actually been Nova Knifed to death. There is a mechanic I could tolerate for how Nova Knives do damage to HAV and that is if they fired their blade like a Ballistic Knife. A KEP with a thermally ignited plasma blade fired using a compressed gravity mechanism theoretically could punch through tank armour and drag in super heated air to damage internal systems. Same can be said for anyone worth a damn has never ever been Nova Knifed, but that's unrealistic, but it don't change the fact that a Knife shouldn't hurt vehicle armor like it does, I'm sorry its a knife not a plasma cannon not a swarm launcher not a remote not a av grenade ect ect ect! Its a sidearm, it shouldn't kill as fast as a Primary weapon when it comes to AV... It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!



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