Lol...
You do realize they can kill vehicles right?

Hmm. Didn't realize the blood raiders lav had such a low horsepower engine.

Just run him the fcking hell over.
Or outrun him.
You have a turret,shoot him with that?

I mean come on,now we're whining about nova knives vs vehicles? I swear to lord metapod,the complaining level here in these forums is too damn high!

For peters fcking sake!
Do you realize that:
1.you have to be within 2m to shank
2.have skillpoints in nova knives
3.charge and slash with the damn things
4.not fcking miss
5.spend a few million skill points on a scout Mk.0 and proto knives and the neccesary modules to shank your little tin car?

Somehow its unfair that a pair of knives that cost isk can hurt your little bpo car?

Maybe vs a tank it seems weird but Anti-vehicle is so unbalanced already. Not to mention madrugar gv.0s with damn near invincible dual hardeners rolling around farming infantry?
Please,save you complaints for when the av and hav of doom are properly balanced.

They are fckng nova knives! And they must run towards you to kill vehicle, so it is okay

It was probably me :)

I am not a pilot or driver...

That being said, I am pretty sure I could get outside of 3m of a knifer if they were attacking me. And if not probably deserved to die.

Just be lucky they weren't one of the knifers skilled at taking out drivers on the fly. They exist, though I haven't been able to pull it off myself.

Again it's not whining. Nobody in an HAV has actually ever been knifed to death unless it was staged.... seriously. It's just a mechanic that is poorly represented and never should have been introduced.

It's more to do with the poor hit detection and trying to account for that for the sake of gameplay balance.

Back then, the max range was 2 meters. But because of the poor detection of the knives especially when trying to chase someone using only the insta-strike (no charge), they gave it an extra half meter of range and allowed the knives to deal their damage as a "curve" during Uprising 1.9 if I remember correctly. Even then, people were still complaining that the knives were still nowhere near viable as a primary weapon.

The nova knives where then normalized in terms of damage dealt. The standard and advanced nova knives were buffed in damage and normalized for their given tier while the prototype knives were left untouched. Militia nova knives did not exist until just before the sidearm event started. Officer nova knives came after the event and those knives are what make you feel that they are OP due to their insane charge time and high damage profile. However, what keeps them from being OP in reality is that they are so expensive (about 300k ISK a pair).

Also, don't talk about comparing reality to a video game that is all about science fiction. Nothing about this game conforms with reality in any way.

One more thing. If you're spending your next million SP on knives just because you might feel that it's the next flavor of the month, you will be sorely disappointed in the knives. Come to think of it, maybe you should invest in the knives just so you can see how extremely difficult it is to use.

Fine I'll quantify that with no one worth a damn in a tank has every actually been Nova Knifed to death.

There is a mechanic I could tolerate for how Nova Knives do damage to HAV and that is if they fired their blade like a Ballistic Knife. A KEP with a thermally ignited plasma blade fired using a compressed gravity mechanism theoretically could punch through tank armour and drag in super heated air to damage internal systems.

Isn't the Nova Knife already a knife with an ignited plasma edge?

It makes perfect sense from a lore perspective as the knives are sheathed in plasma, making it a sort of bladed Plasma Cannon.

As for where your next 1m SP is going, my guess is nowhere or down the drain because if you think you'll be able to use NKs to hit vehicles with any regularity, you're delusional.

Perhaps, but if CCP stated it themselves we have no choice but to accept it as "cannon", and therefore correct.

Ok here we go.

Just today I got done playing a match in Domination on the following map:

http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/newssystem/media/64656/1/LineHarvest_domination.jpg

My team came from the South while the enemy came from the North. At first, the enemy captured the objective but we managed to push them out and hack it for ourselves. But after the objective flips, blaster-fitted Gallente HAV with armor modules comes in from the enemy side becomes a nascence. It was sticking to an area located within Grids D9, E9, and F9. Because of this tank, we lost control of the objective.

So I decided to pull out my AV dropsuit which is an Scout Ak.0 with Wyrkomi Swarms, Flaylock pistol, and advanced AV grenades. Using the cloak, I flanked to get behind the tank and surprised it with 3 swarm salvos. As it took damage, the driver backed out from Grid F9 and headed North into its redline as it drove backwards. I kept up the pressure with AV grenades and flaylocks and forced it deeper into its redline. I nearly killed it with another 3 salvos of the swarms, but I got killed by the redline before I got a chance.

So I decided it was time to bring out my knife suit which I call the "Tank Killer". This is basically a Scout Mk.0 with Nothi's Nova Knives stacked with damage mods, kin kats, and a cloak. Nothing more. No extra weapon. No extra equipment.

I flanked the HAV once again and aimed straight for the rear section of the tank where the 240% damage bonus would be applied if I managed to hit it. The shields went down in the first hit and then I started digging into its armor. But the armor mods kicked in. Even if I was able to apply some damage, I wasn't able to apply it fast enough. The HAV driver backed out which caused the collision mechanic to push me to the side and out of the rear. I was chasing it, once again and with greater speed, but the HAV was just too fast. I was forced to cloak up and flee as it was firing its blaster at me. I tried again as the tank came back from its redline again and just kept attacking it. No surprise, it backed out into its redline but this time it manages to kill me as it retreated.

At this point I realized that the HAV was just not going to be easy to kill. In fact, my success rate throughout the match was ZERO PERCENT when using the "Tank Killer" fit. My Scout Ak.0 with Wyrkomi Swarm Launchers gave me better results than the "Tank Killer" Scout Mk.0.

Remember that I was using NOTHI'S Nova Knives. The most powerful sidearm in the game on a dropsuit that boosts its power while using it on a section of the HAV where it is most vulnerable and even then I was failing to kill the HAV.

Every.

Single.

Time.

The HAV driver was smart. He kept moving at the first sign of trouble and he had good enough aim with his blaster to kill me several times in my Scout Mk.0.

Perhaps I should have stuck with the Scout Ak.0 and its swarms.