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IMMORTAL WAR HERO
NECROM0NGERS
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Posted - 2015.12.28 03:16:00 -
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i swear more people played when we didnt have it and these people should have to use a lot of skill to aim at you if the gonna dance so fast
Object of war is not2 die 4ur country murder bastard 4 his
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Atiim
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2015.12.28 03:19:00 -
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Correlation Gëá Causation
The 1st Matari Commando
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DJINN Heartreaper
Negative-Feedback.
64
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Posted - 2015.12.28 03:47:00 -
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But then the players would suck |
Apoleon II
Rooky rooks
54
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Posted - 2015.12.28 03:57:00 -
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You can disable it in settings, hope this help you .......cough cough faget cough
Sorry for my bad english :$
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Leovarian L Lavitz
TRAILS AND TRIBULATIONS
2
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Posted - 2015.12.28 04:04:00 -
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You think hopping massholes are op now... disable aim assist again
xD
Youtube: Dust 514 - You should Have Worn Proto
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
13
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Posted - 2015.12.28 04:44:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Correlation Gëá Causation Exactly.
Obviously it was the lack of several rifles and racial suits that resulted in having the greater numbers. Lets just delete those and people will stream back.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.12.28 04:49:00 -
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Weren't you the guy making multiple "I'm quitting Dust" love songs?
Saying what's on people's minds
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Apocalyptic Destroyer
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
569
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Posted - 2015.12.28 05:27:00 -
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With the amount of things wrong in Dust you pick up Aim Assist ? Lol you need help and a dose of my thread.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=206464
-Vehicle Expert
-In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming.
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Niarudi
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2015.12.28 05:28:00 -
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Get good at sniping. Aim Assist can't help you there.
when she was good, she was very good indeed,
but when she was bad she shot you in the face.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2015.12.28 05:34:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote:
I know, right? So many problems with Dust that warrant far more attention than just mere aim assist.
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Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
221
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Posted - 2015.12.28 09:00:00 -
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:i swear more people played when we didnt have it and these people should have to use a lot of skill to aim at you if they gonna dance so fast Totally agree. I very much doubt that they would be able to keep aim while doing their "footwork". |
Stefan Stahl
Seituoda Taskforce Command
1
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Posted - 2015.12.28 09:54:00 -
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Clearly all other console FPS games on the market that are implementing much stronger aim assist are doing it wrong. We don't want any of that pick-up-and-play experience. Player retention can only be achieved through steep learning curves and punishing input mechanics.
In all honesty, I recently played Destiny for a few days. Within a few hours I was scoring about 30% critical hits ('headshots') and missed almost no shots at all. In Dust - despite years of practice - I still have trouble tracking enemies at all sometimes. In comparison Dust is an exercise in frustration.
(However Destiny became boring for me due to completely unrelated reasons, but that'd be offtopic.) |
deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance.
4
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Posted - 2015.12.28 10:17:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:You think hopping massholes are op now... disable aim assist again
xD
That was my first thought as well. The DS3 and specifically the sensitivity that they have given it its just plain not good enough for real FPS action.
Shotguns, Mass Drivers, and Flaylocks would become the only viable weapons.
Merry Christmas.
Happy any holiday you celebrate.
Lets all enjoy a New Year that is literally just around the corner.
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Thor Odinson42
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2015.12.28 16:00:00 -
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I've been playing BO3, PS2, and other FPS games on the PS4. I didn't have a ton of FPS experience before Dust.
I don't think people who complain about this have ever played other games. BO3 has a much lower TTK and the aim assist is much stronger. |
Sergeant Sazu
Mantodea MC
820
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Posted - 2015.12.28 19:41:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Correlation Gëá Causation
I must know.
What's the keyboard shortcut for the "does not equal" sign? I hate being stuck with doing a "=/=".
[86.4m SP]
-The Swagmaster Logi-
"Thukker? I hardly know 'er!" -CeeJ Mantis
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance.
4
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Posted - 2015.12.28 19:48:00 -
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Sergeant Sazu wrote:Atiim wrote:Correlation Gëá Causation I must know. What's the keyboard shortcut for the "does not equal" sign? I hate being stuck with doing a "=/=".
Its the Gëá key of course.
o7 All #514InTheWind
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Sergeant Sazu
Mantodea MC
820
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Posted - 2015.12.28 19:51:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Its the Gëá key of course.
Why you do dis? :'(
[86.4m SP]
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"Thukker? I hardly know 'er!" -CeeJ Mantis
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance.
4
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Posted - 2015.12.28 20:04:00 -
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Sergeant Sazu wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Its the Gëá key of course. Why you do dis? :'(
I could not help myself.
It should be either alt 8800 or alt 2260 but those do not seem to work in windows 10.
You have to use the numpad with num lock turned on.
In windows 10 I get
Gòÿ for 2260
and
` for 8800
Even the win 10 character map shows it as 2260 so I am a bit confused right now.
o7 All #514InTheWind
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Mortishai Belmont
XxAMBUSH FTWxX Shadow of Dust
1
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Posted - 2015.12.28 20:20:00 -
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Lets undo all the updates, that'll bring all the people back too.
(~..)~ Now on Youtube ~(..~)
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance.
4
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Posted - 2015.12.28 20:24:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:Lets undo all the updates, that'll bring all the people back too.
The funny thing is if we undid all updates back to day 1 of uprising we would almost have more content than we do now.
JK
BRING BACK LOGI LAVS.
o7 All #514InTheWind
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Sergeant Sazu
Mantodea MC
820
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Posted - 2015.12.28 20:34:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:I could not help myself.
It should be either alt 8800 or alt 2260 but those do not seem to work in windows 10.
You have to use the numpad with num lock turned on.
In windows 10 I get
Gòÿ for 2260
and
` for 8800
Even the win 10 character map shows it as 2260 so I am a bit confused right now.
EDIT:
2260 should work for you it seems that a startup program may be messing with my character map.
I'm getting the same results on Windows 7.
Meh, I'll Google it.
[86.4m SP]
-The Swagmaster Logi-
"Thukker? I hardly know 'er!" -CeeJ Mantis
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Luther Mandrix
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL RUST415
716
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Posted - 2015.12.28 20:39:00 -
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:i swear more people played when we didnt have it and these people should have to use a lot of skill to aim at you if they gonna dance so fast You can go to your options and turn your own aim assit off.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance.
4
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Posted - 2015.12.28 20:49:00 -
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Sergeant Sazu wrote:deezy dabest wrote:I could not help myself.
It should be either alt 8800 or alt 2260 but those do not seem to work in windows 10.
You have to use the numpad with num lock turned on.
In windows 10 I get
Gòÿ for 2260
and
` for 8800
Even the win 10 character map shows it as 2260 so I am a bit confused right now.
EDIT:
2260 should work for you it seems that a startup program may be messing with my character map. I'm getting the same results on Windows 7. Meh, I'll Google it.
Yea it seems that unicode only works in windows programs.
Here are the only ones I can find that work outside of windows based software such as Chrome.
http://www.alt-codes.net/
o7 All #514InTheWind
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO
NECROM0NGERS
468
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Posted - 2016.01.14 03:19:00 -
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Luther Mandrix wrote:IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:i swear more people played when we didnt have it and these people should have to use a lot of skill to aim at you if they gonna dance so fast You can go to your options and turn your own aim assit off.
not everyone will tho
Object of war is not2 die 4ur country murder bastard 4 his
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
1
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Posted - 2016.01.14 06:58:00 -
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Why in the h*ll do people need this game to be about how well you can aim a pixel gun with a dinky controller? That is so narrow minded and does not substitute for bad game design. This game is absolutely a game that had a chance to be about great tactics and strategies, epic battlefield engagments with vehicles and support elements and team play dynamics.
I don't play a video game to learn how to shoot a rifle with a controller any more than I shoot a rifle to learn how to play a video game.
Movement is what needs nerfing in this game if you're worried about the jiggly dance. If you enjoy bragging about how well you can aim a rifle then I suggest you buy a real gun and start practicing. Is this what strict gun laws have done to other countries? Made people seek gun skill in video games? If you're American you've got nothing holding you back. Go crazy!
No, actually, don't go crazy; just have fun shooting responsibly (i.e. not in a school or theatre).
CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
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Shamarskii Simon
The Hundred Acre Hood
608
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Posted - 2016.01.14 12:23:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:I've been playing BO3, PS2, and other FPS games on the PS4. I didn't have a ton of FPS experience before Dust.
I don't think people who complain about this have ever played other games. BO3 has a much lower TTK and the aim assist is much stronger.
I know what you mean.
Whenever I play Call of Duty... I feel like a proto stomper. My friends always wonder how I got good. I always say Dust 514.
But since Dust is so much harder than Call of Duty, none of them want to play Dust. They're always complaining about how that person should've died, etc.
Ahh... The mainstream gamers don't know what patience is.
Potential Pilot Proposal? Yes!
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Shart Machine
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
88
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Posted - 2016.01.14 12:57:00 -
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Principal from Billy Madison wrote:Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:Why in the h*ll do people need this game to be about how well you can aim a pixel gun with a dinky controller? That is so narrow minded and does not substitute for bad game design. This game is absolutely a game that had a chance to be about great tactics and strategies, epic battlefield engaements with vehicles, support elements and team play dynamics.
I don't play a video game to learn how to shoot a rifle with a controller any more than I shoot a rifle to learn how to play a video game.
Movement is what needs nerfing in this game if you're worried about the jiggly dance. If you enjoy bragging about how well you can aim a rifle then I suggest you buy a real gun and start practicing. Is this what strict gun laws have done to other countries? Made people seek gun skill in video games? If you're American you've got nothing holding you back. Go crazy!
No, actually, don't go crazy; just have fun shooting responsibly (i.e. not in a school or theatre). Mr. Uuali, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Also, I'm all for reducing aim assist's efficiency.
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Ankbar Latrommi
Roghnaigh Do Scrios
162
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Posted - 2016.01.14 13:24:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:Why in the h*ll do people need this game to be about how well you can aim a pixel gun with a dinky controller? That is so narrow minded and does not substitute for bad game design. This game is absolutely a game that had a chance to be about great tactics and strategies, epic battlefield engaements with vehicles, support elements and team play dynamics.
I don't play a video game to learn how to shoot a rifle with a controller any more than I shoot a rifle to learn how to play a video game.
Movement is what needs nerfing in this game if you're worried about the jiggly dance. If you enjoy bragging about how well you can aim a rifle then I suggest you buy a real gun and start practicing. Is this what strict gun laws have done to other countries? Made people seek gun skill in video games? If you're American you've got nothing holding you back. Go crazy!
No, actually, don't go crazy; just have fun shooting responsibly (i.e. not in a school or theatre).
Dude, ten-hundred likes.
Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning."
Eve> FPS
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Moorian Flav
359
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Posted - 2016.01.14 16:13:00 -
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:i swear more people played when we didnt have it and these people should have to use a lot of skill to aim at you if they gonna dance so fast Aim assist is not the problem. In fact, DUST has very little aim assist compare to most other FPS console games. The main problem with DUST is DUST supports KB/M (keyboard and mouse) where few KB/M players are able to constantly do headshots while most are lucky to get headshots here and there with their thumbsticks. Besides, to make a controller strafe back and forth, there is a neutral space that must be passed across causing a delay in movement while arrow keys have no such neutral space thereby going left to right and right to left without delay. This has been pointed out numerous times.
I don't troll; I tell the truth.
I'm also known as "The ANTI-Propaganda Machine".
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The KTM Duke
Second-Nature
1
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Posted - 2016.01.14 16:16:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:Lets undo all the updates, that'll bring all the people back too. The amount of people rage quitting dust after a kubera got them or a laser melt them in a second will be >8000
I don't want to make you love me.
I have a dream, PCs with Pubs framerate...uhm nevermind
Ovolollo rules
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Viktor Hadah Jr
0uter.Heaven
9
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Posted - 2016.01.14 16:22:00 -
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:i swear more people played when we didnt have it and these people should have to use a lot of skill to aim at you if they gonna dance so fast there was a time when we did not have aim assist.
I stop playing video games, I don't "retire"
Buying dead and inactive corporations
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sullen maximus
Rawdy Horde
18
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Posted - 2016.01.14 17:03:00 -
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Moorian Flav wrote:IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:i swear more people played when we didnt have it and these people should have to use a lot of skill to aim at you if they gonna dance so fast Aim assist is not the problem. In fact, DUST has very little aim assist compare to most other FPS console games. The main problem with DUST is DUST supports KB/M (keyboard and mouse) where few KB/M players are able to constantly do headshots while most are lucky to get headshots here and there with their thumbsticks. Besides, to make a controller strafe back and forth, there is a neutral space that must be passed across causing a delay in movement while arrow keys have no such neutral space thereby going left to right and right to left without delay. This has been pointed out numerous times. If all aim assist was to be removed, KB/M players would likely simply r a p e controller players all the more.
I have said this multiple times but of course I always here the same "you can do the same thing on a controller!" which is complete horsesh!t. I fitted a agile as **** min suit up and test with a friend watching how fast the movement stick could be moved. It's still nothing compared to the instantaneous movement of someone using a kb/m. What's more is that kb/m players know this and will mash those "A,D,A,D,A,D" every single time you fight them. What's more is that the movement is SO quick that there are server lags in the hit detection so you can be hitting them square on but not doing damage. I know about juking. I've been playing fps on consuls for over a decade. But this is absurd. Why CCP allowed this disparity in controls though is beyond me. I don't know if they did to cater to their PC masses from EVE but it should have never been allowed. There is a reason that KB/M is NEVER allowed in ANY consul video game tournament and so long as they continue to allow two different controls with very different rules applied to them nothing will truly be "fair". |
KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
2
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Posted - 2016.01.14 23:06:00 -
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Moorian Flav wrote:IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:i swear more people played when we didnt have it and these people should have to use a lot of skill to aim at you if they gonna dance so fast Aim assist is not the problem. In fact, DUST has very little aim assist compare to most other FPS console games. The main problem with DUST is DUST supports KB/M (keyboard and mouse) where few KB/M players are able to constantly do headshots while most are lucky to get headshots here and there with their thumbsticks. Besides, to make a controller strafe back and forth, there is a neutral space that must be passed across causing a delay in movement while arrow keys have no such neutral space thereby going left to right and right to left without delay. This has been pointed out numerous times. If all aim assist was to be removed, KB/M players would likely simply r a p e controller players all the more.
While the reason for AA's existence is correct, the description (the R.) is hugely exxagarated. KBM did have somewhat of an advantage before AA, but that's it. It was never a winning ticket. But, still advantage nevertheless and some corrective actions were justified against it.
"Cut cut cut - Trim trim trim!"
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
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Pope Chester
514 MAFIA
27
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Posted - 2016.01.15 18:02:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote:
Lol, exactly. Ironicly aim assist only inhibits me, as it pulls me away from the enemy I'm shooting if another enemy runs near him, so I turned it off, and suprize surprise, I aim better, far more head shots |
Unholy HateGore
highland marines
139
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Posted - 2016.01.15 18:09:00 -
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You can get rid of it if you want but it doesn't stop people who have lock on controllers. |
Soto Gallente
BLUEBERRIES WITH AUTISM RUST415
226
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Posted - 2016.01.15 18:29:00 -
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Unholy HateGore wrote:You can get rid of it if you want but it doesn't stop people who have lock on controllers. That's a thing?
Ex-news reporter for The Scope
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO
NECROM0NGERS
474
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Posted - 2016.01.29 04:31:00 -
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Unholy HateGore wrote:You can get rid of it if you want but it doesn't stop people who have lock on controllers.
ok now isnt that called skill when aim assist removed
Object of war is not2 die 4ur country murder bastard 4 his
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO
NECROM0NGERS
478
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Posted - 2016.01.29 04:49:00 -
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Soto Gallente wrote:Unholy HateGore wrote:You can get rid of it if you want but it doesn't stop people who have lock on controllers. That's a thing?
i think its called good motor control skills in your brain yo
Object of war is not2 die 4ur country murder bastard 4 his
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Soto Gallente
552
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Posted - 2016.01.29 04:49:00 -
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:Soto Gallente wrote:Unholy HateGore wrote:You can get rid of it if you want but it doesn't stop people who have lock on controllers. That's a thing? i think its called good motor control skills in your brain yo Lol, that's called skill, not lock on controllers.
Ex-news reporter for The Scope
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Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
355
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Posted - 2016.01.29 06:45:00 -
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Sergeant Sazu wrote:Atiim wrote:Correlation Gëá Causation I must know. What's the keyboard shortcut for the "does not equal" sign? I hate being stuck with doing a "=/=". Normally it's <> |
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Lucifalic
Baked n Loaded
858
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Posted - 2016.01.29 13:35:00 -
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I was and am a kb/m player especially before MAG. But have you ever tried dust with kb/m???? It's teeeerble. Like someone poured molAsses into your soul. Kb/m is not the problem. Bad coding/PS3 interactions are. And ****** South American internets
Here since Closed beta. That's messed up
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Forlorn Destrier
Incorruptibles
3
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Posted - 2016.01.29 16:12:00 -
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:i swear more people played when we didnt have it and these people should have to use a lot of skill to aim at you if they gonna dance so fast
We have always had aim assist. In fact, it used to be much much stronger and was lowered in sensitivity quite a bit.
I am the Forgotten Warhorse, a Lord of Lightning
I am Havok, Incorruptible
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CELESTA AUNGM
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
788
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Posted - 2016.01.29 17:51:00 -
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Alena Asakura wrote:IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:i swear more people played when we didnt have it and these people should have to use a lot of skill to aim at you if they gonna dance so fast Totally agree. I very much doubt that they would be able to keep aim while doing their "footwork". LOL, there are way too many theories about why it seems "more" people played Dust back before the Aim Assist was introduced. So I can't agree with this stance from the very first post in this thread.
Dust was more BRUTAL and hard to play back then, and that kind of "game" has a way of hooking long-term players and cerebral players FAR more than it does quickie short-term players and simple-game lovers. (But, interestingly the long-term players resist using AUR more than the short-term players---I am an example of that---so CCP's recent profit may be HELPED by having a fast turn around of short-term players, instead of the "more" long-term players you enjoyed before Aim Assist). WOW. What a theory.
Another theory is, fewer people are playing the current version of the game because there's not as clear a path to climb towards Planetary Conquest benefits right now. Not having anything at all to do with "Aim Assist". Back then, it was ultra-cool to finally build your character to a level respectful enough to dip your foot in a PC match----today, PC is played for fun, with less prestige and less struggle... so why worry to build ambitions and stick around in this game for the long haul anymore? Play like Destiny for 3 months or so, then yawn and put it down.
See? All sorts of theories. I won't give my opinion about Aim Assist again. But it is cool to play in a sci-fi environment where your weapon-technology has become so adept at scanning an enemy, identifying the make of her dropsuit, analizing her suit hp weakness, and plotting the highest probability of hit and kill,... ....that we don't just "attack" an opponent in this universe. In New Eden you MUST coat you suit in peanut butter, jiggle from side to side rapidly, and drag a live farm hen on a rope behind you,... to try to throw off the opponent's targeting system as you run up to fight him.
I'm not trying to be sarcastic. I'm serious, I LIKE this. It's funny, it's hilarious to see what some of you do to avoid a slug in the forehead, and I don't have laughter-fun any other PS3 game nearly as much as my good time playing Dust.
...Maybe that's why my BF doesn't play this game with me as much any more. He takes the gameplay more seriously than me.
Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne...
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KEROSIINI-TERO
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2016.01.29 19:02:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:i swear more people played when we didnt have it and these people should have to use a lot of skill to aim at you if they gonna dance so fast We have always had aim assist. In fact, it used to be much much stronger and was lowered in sensitivity quite a bit.
It might have been on the menu, but like so many other things, it was nonfunctional. The AA as we know it was introduced during early fall of 2013, probably August and then tweaked in September.
"Cut cut cut - Trim trim trim!"
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
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Forlorn Destrier
Incorruptibles
3
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Posted - 2016.01.29 19:58:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:i swear more people played when we didnt have it and these people should have to use a lot of skill to aim at you if they gonna dance so fast We have always had aim assist. In fact, it used to be much much stronger and was lowered in sensitivity quite a bit. It might have been on the menu, but like so many other things, it was nonfunctional. The AA as we know it was introduced during early fall of 2013, probably August and then tweaked in September.
If my memory is correct, AA existed prior to that, but hit detection was non-existent (we could fire 2 full clips AR rounds at a target not moving and only 5 meters away and no damage would register). As a result, it was if it didn't exist. Once they updated that, CCP realized the AA was too strong and lowered it.
I am the Forgotten Warhorse, a Lord of Lightning
I am Havok, Incorruptible
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Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
356
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Posted - 2016.01.29 20:03:00 -
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CELESTA AUNGM wrote:I won't give my opinion about Aim Assist again. But it is cool to play in a sci-fi environment where your weapon-technology has become so adept at scanning an enemy, identifying the make of her dropsuit, analizing her suit hp weakness, and plotting the highest probability of hit and kill,... ....that we don't just "attack" an opponent in this universe. In New Eden you MUST coat you suit in peanut butter, jiggle from side to side rapidly, and drag a live farm hen on a rope behind you,... to try to throw off the opponent's targeting system as you run up to fight him. I'm not trying to be sarcastic. I'm serious, I LIKE this. It's funny, it's hilarious to see what some of you do to avoid a slug in the forehead, and I don't have laughter-fun any other PS3 game nearly as much as my good time playing Dust. ...Maybe that's why my BF doesn't play this game with me as much any more. He takes the gameplay more seriously than me. Well, I for one an turned off by all the coating in peanut butter, jiggling from side to side rapidly and dragging live farm hens on a rope behind me. I find all such things inane and ridiculous, as clearly do you. But I don't find them "laughter-fun", I actually dislike them to the point of quitting the game whenever I encounter something like this that offends me to a great enough extent.
I continue to play as much as possible as I always have FPSs, firing from cover, aiming using sights where possible, from a distance where my better aim using my preferred weapons (usually a good RR) will have a greater effect on my target than they could possibly have on me.
I am ultimately most incensed by being taken out from the flank, while in cover, by someone blatantly out in the open where they have no reasonable right to be, because in any decent FPS, they would have died from someone else long before they got a chance to target me. When that happens is when I usually turn off the console and do something more productive, at least until I cool down enough to contemplate the prospects of such idiocy again.
No I don't find such things "fun". They to me are an indication I'm wasting my time playing this game. If the dynamics of the game were such that people couldn't get away with anything so puerile as that described above, and people actually had to do "normal" things like firing from cover, etc, then I probably would feel this game had some sort of future. Perhaps it really does just come down to rapid turnover of high-AUR using players. I'm not a long-liner at Dust but I am in New Eden, and I certainly don't count as a high-AUR user. I loath AUR, as do most of the EvE players I know. But CCP makes money from AUR in Dust, so it's reasonable they would develop the game to be one that favours the high-turnover model, rather than the player retention model. The problem is, as far as I can see, there is certainly high turnover, but the player retention is suffering so badly, there may not be enough players for the high turnover players to fight against!
All that said, every day I find my time playing Dust is decreasing, I quit and turn off the console faster, I leave battle faster on seeing something ridiculous, or being stomped in a pub that's supposed to be loaded with players at my level (no I don't believe that, but it's supposed to be that way, apparently). In short, if I were to plot it, I'd say my time playing Dust each day is asymptotic to the x-axis, and in the not-too-distant future, unless the fabled 1.3 seriously fixes a lot of these issues, which I do not believe are even seen as issues, I will be turning off the console so soon after starting play that I might as well leave it off. |
GeorgeN76
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How about making aim assist work only if you are stationary?
Dancing queens wouldnt have aim assist
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:i swear more people played when we didnt have it and these people should have to use a lot of skill to aim at you if they gonna dance so fast
Keyboards are already better then the DS3 controller to use but lets make them in invincible
Armor tanked heavies are pathetic
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:i swear more people played when we didnt have it and these people should have to use a lot of skill to aim at you if they gonna dance so fast Keyboards are already better then the DS3 controller to use but lets make them in invincible Lol, have you ever tried using the KB/M?
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CELESTA AUNGM wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:i swear more people played when we didnt have it and these people should have to use a lot of skill to aim at you if they gonna dance so fast Totally agree. I very much doubt that they would be able to keep aim while doing their "footwork". LOL, there are way too many theories about why it seems "more" people played Dust back before the Aim Assist was introduced. So I can't agree with this stance from the very first post in this thread. Dust was more BRUTAL and hard to play back then, and that kind of "game" has a way of hooking long-term players and cerebral players FAR more than it does quickie short-term players and simple-game lovers. (But, interestingly the long-term players resist using AUR more than the short-term players---I am an example of that---so CCP's recent profit may be HELPED by having a fast turn around of short-term players, instead of the "more" long-term players you enjoyed before Aim Assist). WOW. What a theory. Another theory is, fewer people are playing the current version of the game because there's not as clear a path to climb towards Planetary Conquest benefits right now. Not having anything at all to do with "Aim Assist". Back then, it was ultra-cool to finally build your character to a level respectful enough to dip your foot in a PC match----today, PC is played for fun, with less prestige and less struggle... so why worry to build ambitions and stick around in this game for the long haul anymore? Play like Destiny for 3 months or so, then yawn and put it down. See? All sorts of theories. I won't give my opinion about Aim Assist again. But it is cool to play in a sci-fi environment where your weapon-technology has become so adept at scanning an enemy, identifying the make of her dropsuit, xd analizing her suit hp weakness, and plotting the highest probability of hit and kill,... ....that we don't just "attack" an opponent in this universe. In New Eden you MUST coat you suit in peanut butter, jiggle from side to side rapidly, and drag a live farm hen on a rope behind you,... to try to throw off the opponent's targeting system as you run up to fight him. I'm not trying to be sarcastic. I'm serious, I LIKE this. It's funny, it's hilarious to see what some of you do to avoid a slug in the forehead, and I don't have laughter-fun any other PS3 game nearly as much as my good time playing Dust. ...Maybe that's why my BF doesn't play this game with me as much any more. He takes the gameplay more seriously than me.
Object of war is not2 die 4ur country murder bastard 4 his
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:i swear more people played when we didnt have it and these people should have to use a lot of skill to aim at you if they gonna dance so fast
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Krixus Flux wrote:Weren't you the guy making multiple "I'm quitting Dust" love songs? no i made a christmas without dust its different its was stolen from me dust was |
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Atiim wrote:Correlation Gëá Causation Thank God this was the first comment.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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Posted - 2016.07.25 05:11:00 -
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IWH HAS OFFICER wrote:IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:i swear more people played when we didnt have it and these people should have to use a lot of skill to aim at you if they gonna dance so fast well I guess aim assist is gone then You bumped a thread from last year twice.
Biomass yourself.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:
You bumped a thread from last year twice.
Biomass yourself.
Seconded.
Yes, I am a Goon. No, I don't care about your spacepolitik.
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Posted - 2016.07.26 16:01:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:
You bumped a thread from last year twice.
Biomass yourself.
Seconded.
yeah just some proof i been here awhile for some reason this the oldest post i have without lock on it lol
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Lightning35 Delta514
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deezy dabest wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:Atiim wrote:Correlation Gëá Causation I must know. What's the keyboard shortcut for the "does not equal" sign? I hate being stuck with doing a "=/=". Its the Gëá key of course.
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Atiim wrote:Correlation Gëá Causation Thank God this was the first comment.
Atiim was a good sort.
Gentlemen. It has been a pleasure. o7
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Atiim wrote:Correlation Gëá Causation Thank God this was the first comment. Atiim was a good sort. When we initially rolled him out the audience didn't really take to him because we over did it with his edginess. Though rather than soften up the character by making him kinder we instead increased his wit and gave him a compass of justice. And people really took to him after that. The producers over at GJR studios couldn't have been happier.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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Posted - 2016.07.28 16:18:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Atiim wrote:Correlation Gëá Causation Thank God this was the first comment. Atiim was a good sort. XD
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:i swear more people played when we didnt have it and these people should have to use a lot of skill to aim at you if they gonna dance so fast We have always had aim assist. In fact, it used to be much much stronger and was lowered in sensitivity quite a bit. It might have been on the menu, but like so many other things, it was nonfunctional. The AA as we know it was introduced during early fall of 2013, probably August and then tweaked in September. If my memory is correct, AA existed prior to that, but hit detection was non-existent (we could fire 2 full clips AR rounds at a target not moving and only 5 meters away and no damage would register). As a result, it was if it didn't exist. Once they updated that, CCP realized the AA was too strong and lowered it.
Kero is correct, you are wrong. AA was disabled until 1.8 (I believe)
From my personal perspective I remember it well as suddenly all the bad aim trash players were actually able to get kills...
LOL, I love how before this apparently there was no hit detection. Nope, if it took you 2 AR clips to kill someone you were just bad.
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