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Avallo Kantor
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Posted - 2015.11.09 22:41:00 -
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So an honest question,
Do you think the Devs know how to fix things but are just waiting on it? Or are you one of those managers who thinks that yelling at people increases productivity?
Work doesn't get done faster because people are angry, and I'm willing to bet from what I've seen of CCP that bugs and lag aren't due to them being too lazy to tackle it.
"Mind Blown" - CCP Rattati
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Abstract Requiem
8
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Posted - 2015.11.09 22:42:00 -
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byte modal wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:OP, you need to make a list of players confirmed to be striking or this strike will have little impact and die. of all the 20 or so that replied? Teasing. Seriously though, if you want this to be something even just sort of for real, are any corp CEOs passing the word along to the underlings? It's one thing for a person to be a no-show (not much of one thing, but still...) and a completely other thing if entire corps revolt en masse. just sayin' We have 5 days to spread the word. The impact will be much greater than what it is now. I will be telling my corpmates to strike, and I encourage you all to spread the word in-game. This isn't just a forum event.
Creator of the Nova Knifers United channel
Dreis' Minja Blog
CEO of Abstract Requiem
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Abstract Requiem
8
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Posted - 2015.11.09 22:43:00 -
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Avallo Kantor wrote:So an honest question,
Do you think the Devs know how to fix things but are just waiting on it? Or are you one of those managers who thinks that yelling at people increases productivity?
Work doesn't get done faster because people are angry, and I'm willing to bet from what I've seen of CCP that bugs and lag aren't due to them being too lazy to tackle it. This strike is not directed at the Devs. This strike is directed at the higher-ups.
Creator of the Nova Knifers United channel
Dreis' Minja Blog
CEO of Abstract Requiem
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
28
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Posted - 2015.11.09 22:45:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: We have 5 days to spread the word. The impact will be much greater than what it is now. I will be telling my corpmates to strike, and I encourage you all to spread the word in-game. This isn't just a forum event.
Your... 10 man corp.
Truly, the revolution is at hand.
Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
Kaze, you are best logi. Best. Logi.
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Avallo Kantor
976
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Posted - 2015.11.09 22:46:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Avallo Kantor wrote:So an honest question,
Do you think the Devs know how to fix things but are just waiting on it? Or are you one of those managers who thinks that yelling at people increases productivity?
Work doesn't get done faster because people are angry, and I'm willing to bet from what I've seen of CCP that bugs and lag aren't due to them being too lazy to tackle it. This strike is not directed at the Devs. This strike is directed at the higher-ups.
And you think the "higher ups" can fix bugs and system lag because...?
"Mind Blown" - CCP Rattati
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Abstract Requiem
8
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Posted - 2015.11.09 22:49:00 -
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Avallo Kantor wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Avallo Kantor wrote:So an honest question,
Do you think the Devs know how to fix things but are just waiting on it? Or are you one of those managers who thinks that yelling at people increases productivity?
Work doesn't get done faster because people are angry, and I'm willing to bet from what I've seen of CCP that bugs and lag aren't due to them being too lazy to tackle it. This strike is not directed at the Devs. This strike is directed at the higher-ups. And you think the "higher ups" can fix bugs and system lag because...? You would rather do nothing? Look where that's gotten us.
Creator of the Nova Knifers United channel
Dreis' Minja Blog
CEO of Abstract Requiem
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Immortal John Ripper
29
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Posted - 2015.11.09 22:55:00 -
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Convinced this is the forums way of wishing me a happy birthday and not really about CCP. Well maybe like 40% about CCP.
Butter my button and call it a biscuit.
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General John Ripper
29
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Posted - 2015.11.09 22:55:00 -
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Convinced this is the forums way of wishing me a happy birthday and not really about CCP. Well maybe like 40% about CCP.
Butter my button and call it a biscuit.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Abstract Requiem
8
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Posted - 2015.11.09 22:58:00 -
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I took the liberty of creating a list for you, OP.
Creator of the Nova Knifers United channel
Dreis' Minja Blog
CEO of Abstract Requiem
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
1
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Posted - 2015.11.09 23:01:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:
Nice one boyko i hope our syndicalism will tell them how we feel.
"I'm glad there is still Fallout because game development is dead."
One common gamer
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Avinash Decker
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
214
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Posted - 2015.11.10 00:07:00 -
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Don't worry on the 10th and around the 17th I'm sure there will be strikes. |
postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
1
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Posted - 2015.11.10 00:27:00 -
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Avinash Decker wrote:Don't worry on the 10th and around the 17th I'm sure there will be strikes.
Honestly i started right now, i can do other thingys and fight for good is still more important.
Ergo
Seeya all for feew, but dont worry i will be still here
"I'm glad there is still Fallout because game development is dead."
One common gamer
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens Imperium Eden
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Posted - 2015.11.10 01:15:00 -
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luckyireland wrote:Pc is wrong choice on many level the guy with the high end pc gets better fps and preformance.at least console is a level playing field for first person shooters.
"I pay X dollars a month for internet connection. You pay Y and get a worse connection. I have less lag." Basically, an even playing field can never be created.
But on topic.
As much as I want there to be a port of this game, especially in regards to DUST being what it was supposed to be, this is a nearly pointless endeavor.
1. It is a F2P game. Not playing isn't hurting them. If you really want to make a statement, get people to vow to never spend any money again until a kind of plan is announced for the game. However, the catch here is that CCP may go with the "Well, if it isn't making any money now why would we bother to invest in the future of the game?" Of course "let's all buy Aurum to support CCP!" may just become "why port when we are making money here?" Ohh, the power of pessimism! 2. A boycott of one day is completely meaningless. "So no one logged in today. The next day we were back to the 1,500-sum player mark." 3. The entire point of the exercise is to say "we want a port!" That does virtually nothing to help the situation. Archduke: "So no one logged on today. A forum post was talking about boycotting the game for 24 hours in order to bring the desire of a port to our attention." Frame: "But we know they want a port already..." Archduke: "Yeah, I thought the same thing"
Recap of Vegas. Paraphrasing Aeon: I was walking around with no " decency when approaching the devs, especially the more influential ones that can actually make things happen" and kept doing the "where is the port?!" General shtick is the same: "we have nothing to/can say and we know how frustrating it is for you guys." Archduke gets tickets of a dust covered PS3 that someone used their finger to write "PORT DUST"; they know what we want. Harassing the forums isn't going to get us anything.
As much as I understand the desire, it is fruitless noise sadly...
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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Panthrax Oblivion
1
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Posted - 2015.11.10 01:19:00 -
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Does this have anything to do with what happened at the University of Missouri? Or is it just s coincidence?
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
1
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Posted - 2015.11.10 01:25:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:luckyireland wrote:Pc is wrong choice on many level the guy with the high end pc gets better fps and preformance.at least console is a level playing field for first person shooters. "I pay X dollars a month for internet connection. You pay Y and get a worse connection. I have less lag." Basically, an even playing field can never be created. But on topic. As much as I want there to be a port of this game, especially in regards to DUST being what it was supposed to be, this is a nearly pointless endeavor. 1. It is a F2P game. Not playing isn't hurting them. If you really want to make a statement, get people to vow to never spend any money again until a kind of plan is announced for the game. However, the catch here is that CCP may go with the "Well, if it isn't making any money now why would we bother to invest in the future of the game?" Of course "let's all buy Aurum to support CCP!" may just become "why port when we are making money here?" Ohh, the power of pessimism! 2. A boycott of one day is completely meaningless. "So no one logged in today. The next day we were back to the 1,500-sum player mark." 3. The entire point of the exercise is to say "we want a port!" That does virtually nothing to help the situation. Archduke: "So no one logged on today. A forum post was talking about boycotting the game for 24 hours in order to bring the desire of a port to our attention." Frame: "But we know they want a port already..." Archduke: "Yeah, I thought the same thing" Recap of Vegas.Paraphrasing Aeon: I was walking around with no " decency when approaching the devs, especially the more influential ones that can actually make things happen" and kept doing the "where is the port?!" General shtick is the same: "we have nothing to/can say and we know how frustrating it is for you guys." Archduke gets tickets of a dust covered PS3 that someone used their finger to write "PORT DUST"; they know what we want. Harassing the forums isn't going to get us anything. As much as I understand the desire, it is fruitless noise sadly...
EvE confirmed different story and if there is just slighly bigger chance to change things up i will try. We trying to show how we are unsatisfied by state/future of Dust. If you are satisfied you must see thing somehow different.
Invisible walls, lag, bugs, unbalance, disconnection and most important embargo about game future is no way how to treat us.
And we step up and fight the good fight because we are the most important thing for this product. We are community. We are the customers. We are Dust gamers and we want better future than only dead silence.
"I'm glad there is still Fallout because game development is dead."
One common gamer
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Lightning xVx
R 0 N 1 N
865
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Posted - 2015.11.10 01:25:00 -
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It brings peace to me, that finally Mercenaries will band together. Brothers & Sisters to bring back what once was Honor and Respect amongst themselves and others, fighting for the same cause. #PortDust514
Support #PortDust514
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
1
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Posted - 2015.11.10 01:28:00 -
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Lightning xVx wrote:It brings peace to me, that finally Mercenaries will band together. Brothers & Sisters to bring back what once was Honor and Respect amongst themselves and others, fighting for the same cause. #PortDust514
Are you with us brother?
"I'm glad there is still Fallout because game development is dead."
One common gamer
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Abstract Requiem
8
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Posted - 2015.11.10 03:43:00 -
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Deezy dabest sends out information and a call for strike action to OVER 1000 PEOPLE.
Creator of the Nova Knifers United channel
Dreis' Minja Blog
CEO of Abstract Requiem
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Abstract Requiem
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Posted - 2015.11.10 03:46:00 -
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Can we get someone with an EVE account to make it known on the EVE forums that we are taking strike action? I imagine that they would sympathise with us given sufficient explanation.
Creator of the Nova Knifers United channel
Dreis' Minja Blog
CEO of Abstract Requiem
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chiIl penguin
Omega-Company
11
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Posted - 2015.11.10 03:50:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Can we get someone with an EVE account to make it known on the EVE forums that we are taking strike action? I imagine that they would sympathise with us given sufficient explanation.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Abstract Requiem
8
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Posted - 2015.11.10 03:52:00 -
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chiIl penguin wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Can we get someone with an EVE account to make it known on the EVE forums that we are taking strike action? I imagine that they would sympathise with us given sufficient explanation. EVE? Sympathize with US? Are you smoking? Most pilots I've spoken to agree that DUST is not what it should be and deserves to be given more respect. Besides, it would be good to do it to increase publicity of the strike.
Creator of the Nova Knifers United channel
Dreis' Minja Blog
CEO of Abstract Requiem
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GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.11.10 04:53:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:Golden Day wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Golden Day wrote:As I was lurking here someone said "ps4 would have a bigger and better community" I was laughing so hard my sides started to hurt ! Still here golden? Wheres that PC build that you said would beat the ps4? Johnyy called you out on it. Fine ill start it ~_~ Don't forget,anything the ps4 can do for 350$ your build must do and better.
Does the 350.00 include a valid Windows licence and anti-virus?
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Abstract Requiem
8
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Posted - 2015.11.10 04:53:00 -
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Going to bed now, will add additional names to the list tomorrow. I will be contacting all CEOs and alliances tomorrow, encouraging them to spread the word of this boycott. You all need to take a proactive stance by spreading the word in game to as many people as possible. Talk to your CEOs. Spam them until they send corp mails ordering strike action. Tell everyone. Spam it in every channel. DUST 514 is going on strike.
If you want something to change, MAKE IT HAPPEN.
Creator of the Nova Knifers United channel
Dreis' Minja Blog
CEO of Abstract Requiem
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Baal Omniscient
Qualified Scrub
2
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Posted - 2015.11.10 10:25:00 -
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You lost me when you tried to tie in which system to port to into your protest. Dust needs to be ported to survive. If it moves to ps4, I will be there since I have been here since the beginning. If it moves to PC, I can finally leave this game behind and stop caring about it. Either way I'm happy. That said, tying bias into an idea that's supposed to energize people into helping you just hurts your cause and turn players against you. If I wasn't already not planning to play Dust for a while anyway, I might have just played too spite you. Have fun with your little hissy fit. o7
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Laurent Cazaderon
What The French
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Posted - 2015.11.10 11:58:00 -
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Sorry dude but your point for PC is complete garbage. And the "buy a dualshock" part ? Really ?
=> KBM vs controller is not even a debate, it's a joke.
=> Price of a PC vs price of a PS4 is also not a debate, it's a joke. It's at least twice the price of a PS4 to get a decent PC for a FPS
=> 80% of the original playerbase of Dust 514 that left after red wedding, or before, already bought a PS4. 90% of all time is console based.
=> Original motivation for DUST514 is : "be a simple friendly way to the EVE universe aka and FPS. Get in touch with a new playerbase aka Console".
So yeah sorry but any talk about having dust 514 or legion or whatever on PC is both a mistake and a lack of respect for the players who have\are stil investing money in this game. HELL it was that idea that drove its core fanbase to massively leave the ship and switch resources that were first involved in keeping on building the game on PS3.
And as i havent been there in a long while and i might get some "Who are you, you know nothing, blablabla" kind of ****, i'll just remind i was in the first CPM so i m pretty solid on the matter and heard monthes before FF the plan to just basically drop PS3\console and go to PC. And already back then the justification i got from up there was full of ****.
Farming your likes since 2012
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Dalmont Legrand
RUST415
709
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Posted - 2015.11.10 12:05:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:...
Investing? In what? Give me a break, you prefer paying 350-450 per new ps every few years or pay 400 per pc and then if needed update once in few years by 150?
You have problems with economic reasoning right there. End of story. Ah also, as much as I know the biggest playerbase in the world is PC no matter how much sony and micro will try.
"Shred Memories" | Reality Fiction
The best is yet to come
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
7
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Posted - 2015.11.10 12:47:00 -
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I'm somewhat curious to see just how few people are actually going to get onboard with this.
This is the same as all those Petition threads that used to litter the Forums.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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Laurent Cazaderon
What The French
2
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Posted - 2015.11.10 13:05:00 -
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Dalmont Legrand wrote:Laurent Cazaderon wrote:... Investing? In what? Give me a break, you prefer paying 350-450 per new ps every few years or pay 400 per pc and then if needed update once in few years by 150? You have problems with economic reasoning right there. End of story. Ah also, as much as I know the biggest playerbase in the world is PC no matter how much sony and micro will try.
Lol, over the course of a console lifetime, you will certainly invest a lot more than 150$ every few years in your PC. As a matter of fact i come from PC gaming so i know how it goes.
FYI, PS3 released in 2006 and PS4 at the end of 2014. Only in 2015 can we say the PS3 is actually done. So that's a 8+ year lifespan. No reason it will be ay different for the PS4, which leaves 7 years for a 350$ investment. No way you'll beat that with any PC. Saying otherwise is being as hyporcritical as saying games are of better graphic quality on console than they are on PC. And even outside of the price thing, many console players chose that type of gaming platform for other reasons simple as simply not having any room to have one.
And biggest playerbase ? Hum, sorry but arent we talking about a specific game launched on console and played by console players in the first place ? Players from PC who bought a PS3 to get in the Dust adventure remain over the lifespan of DUST a minority.
There's also an ethic POV on the matter. You create a game and earn money from the pocket of a specific group of player. Arent you somehow entitled to favor those players when pushing your game to a different level ?
How would PC players feel if Dust had started on PC on a terrible engine then announced to be ended and a new iteration launched exclusively on PS4 ? My guess ? They would have been pretty angry. And they would have been right to be.
I'm sorry but i see nothing else but egoistic behavior in PC players rooting for Dust's future to be on PC.
But beyond those debate and differences of POV, the real culprit is and remain CCP:
=> First for chosing a dying platform to start an ambitious and imo pretty well thought project (same universe, mainstream gameplay type, new playerbase).
=> Second for being sufficiently dumb to trust the development of that game to an entirely brand new, unstructured dev team and appointing a just as dumb director to head of the project (those who remember who i'm refering to, meeting the guy in person was eye opening on how stubborn and messy the guy was...)
=> Third for being insanely dumb and diving head first in a PR nightmare at FF14 without anything concrete to show for game wise or top management wise. (proof being that CCP's boss pretty much never talked about legion ever).
Anyway, we can argue as much as we want, i still know (yeah i'm being arrogant but F* it) that the right decision by the players would be to go PS4. Same applies on an economic POV. F2P FPS are legion (see what i did there) on PC, whereas there's still a lot of room on console.
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byte modal
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Posted - 2015.11.10 13:46:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:Dalmont Legrand wrote:[quote=Laurent Cazaderon]... lots of bla bla bla and ranting
lol. wrong thread? stfu or go back to page 2.
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
1
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Posted - 2015.11.10 14:38:00 -
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Dalmont Legrand wrote: Transfer to PS4 is pointless Sorry, I'll be boycotting your boycott. #DUSTPS4
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