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KGB Sleep
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Posted - 2015.11.10 14:40:00 -
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Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote:Dalmont Legrand wrote: Transfer to PS4 is pointless Sorry, I'll be boycotting your boycott. #DUSTPS4
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Because beer, that's why.
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DEATH THE KlD
Imperfect - Bastards
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Posted - 2015.11.10 14:48:00 -
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Well I'm done playing till a port or a war happens, I'd get on again if we were to go for 100% MH but I ordered my desktop so I can quit using my laptop for gaming..the witcher 3+ dlc and fallout 4..mm can't wait for my desktop
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Dalmont Legrand
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.10 14:49:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:...
So you say ps 3 graphics were competitive for 8 years? Let me tell you, right after 2009 gear lost in price, so competitive PS3 ceased to be such 3+ years after it's launch. How much money you spent on PS3 games? Do you know price rate of PS3 to PC games?
Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. Also this strike is about people moving CCP and not PC/PS4 platform. Cos crossplatfrom it should be as EVE players will rush into it as soon as it comes on PC.
All alliances will disappear as real big fish will come and with big fish comes big money. CCP is not blind, they just don't care. Letsmake them care.
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Dalmont Legrand
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.10 14:53:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote:Dalmont Legrand wrote: Transfer to PS4 is pointless Sorry, I'll be boycotting your boycott. #DUSTPS4 ^
Hope you know that CCP financial situation and their investors won't let it happen cos PC stands far beyond PS in long term. If this project to live along EVE then it is PC no matter how much you desire it to be PS. Company won't be spending money on contracts and servers that are not beneficial. Sony wants a piece of pie. CCP saves a lot both by not giving pie and flexibility of own system plus experience on PC is beyond recognition. Hide into darkness and observe. I am not against port to PS either, you can join us and claim what I also like - cross platform. Also it will be easier for CCP to compare gains and progress. Just don't find BS excuse to do nothing. Because if you want to stay away of this then keep quiet and take it like a p u s s y cat.
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maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
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Posted - 2015.11.10 14:58:00 -
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GLOBAL RAGE wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Golden Day wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Golden Day wrote:As I was lurking here someone said "ps4 would have a bigger and better community" I was laughing so hard my sides started to hurt ! Still here golden? Wheres that PC build that you said would beat the ps4? Johnyy called you out on it. Fine ill start it ~_~ Don't forget,anything the ps4 can do for 350$ your build must do and better. Does the 350.00 include a valid Windows licence and anti-virus?
Nope. He's skipping a lot of the parts. And he's going over on the base price. He didn't add in a kb/m, WiFi/Ethernet modules,proper internal cooling like johnny said. Guess you can't build a PC that beats the ps4 at the same price.
Ha!You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
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DozersMouse XIII
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.11.10 15:02:00 -
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Not striking
CCP's laughing at you
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Dalmont Legrand
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.10 15:17:00 -
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DozersMouse XIII wrote:Not striking
CCP's laughing at you
It laughs at you as well because it laughs at everyone. Welcome to 2015 with pre-history. Were you born yesterday?
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Dalmont Legrand
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.10 15:20:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:
Nope. He's skipping a lot of the parts. And he's going over on the base price. He didn't add in a kb/m, WiFi/Ethernet modules,proper internal cooling like johnny said. Guess you can't build a PC that beats the ps4 at the same price.
Windows 10 is for free. Also there is a lot of free software online of which you probably never heard. Well such a pity you are marketing victims. Consoles exist because of people nowadays that can't make decent pc under 400 easily. Should I do some with links or smt to shut you up? I dont mind, will you shut up? Well you will become pissed when you lose so it will bring more noise. So zip it.
Obviously not mentioning a huge elephant of hacking on PC software.
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.11.10 15:37:00 -
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I'll go one better and just not log in for a month or so... Maybe until the next hotfix.
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2015.11.10 16:07:00 -
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DozersMouse XIII wrote:Not striking
CCP's laughing at you
They actually luagh on you, because you douing everything in their favor. I remember time when they were pretty sh1t3d out in EvE by similar action.
"I'm glad there is still Fallout because game development is dead."
One common gamer
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
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Posted - 2015.11.10 16:16:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:Devadander wrote:Legion was a pc port whether you can accept it or not.
I honestly don't care.
They won't make that mistake twice...
Edit: atom universe just went live cross-platform yesterday. Pc and ps4 players in the same lobby... So the ps4 can't do it argument is invalid (I know it's not a shooter, and wouldn't want to play with wallhack aimbot masterbaits anyway so idc again) You have to agree with me. The burning trees were beautiful
The burning tree was effing stupid.
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2015.11.10 16:22:00 -
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People of Dust
We trying to fight a good fight for future of our beloved game. I know there is confusion (some of us want Pc some of us wants Ps4).
Hold your horses here, we all know both sides have cons. We start this movement not for preferation of platfroms, but for future development.
Fisrt of all C C P needs to see what community we are. How we, the blood, the physical power of DUST can step up and raise our fists.
We are the DUST and we do not want be treated how we are right now. No information about future, nonsensical messages istead and moneytization of us only.
Dust needs change and we stands up for that. Spread the word, takl, send messages.
We are the one and only blood what flows in dust veins. We are that power what gave it birth. Without us DUST is nothing and we need to show what we thin and what we mean. They have plenty of time to fix all and now it is time to show them what we want.
We are the DUST We need to FIGHT
Raise your fists brother, syndicalists of this movement and by that raise our future!!
"I'm glad there is still Fallout because game development is dead."
One common gamer
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Aellar Dae
LUX AETERNA INT RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.10 16:38:00 -
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RUST415 approves this message.
CCP has to wake up. It is too late to revive this game with cosmetic updates. Good old players cease to play because they are bored. War in dust is more like farce, it is not real competition. And there is no way to develop gameplay without good core players.
For me personally this strike is effective within the last few months. We need planetary conquest in nullsec at least. If not porting game to PS4/PC, give us PC in nullsec ASAP. We dont care how balanced it will be, JUST DO IT!
IN RUST WE TRUST
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Dalmont Legrand
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.10 16:39:00 -
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Aellar Dae wrote:RUST415 approves this message.
CCP has to wake up. It is too late to revive this game with cosmetic updates. Good old players cease to play because they are bored. War in dust is more like farce, it is not real competition. And there is no way to develop gameplay without good core players.
For me personally this strike is effective within the last few months. We need planetary conquest in nullsec at least. If not porting game to PS4/PC, give us PC in nullsec ASAP. We dont care how balanced it will be, JUST DO IT!
That would totally spice the action in EVE.
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Moorian Flav
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Posted - 2015.11.10 16:45:00 -
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Just to put things in perspective, there were way more players and way more outrage during the EON alliance blue donut fiasco. There were multiple petitions, tickets, and other complaints submitted about flawed PC mechanics being exploited for hundreds of millions (likely billions) of ISK that would forever unbalance the DUST economy.
Q: You know what CCP did? A: Nothing
Therefore, you are essentially pissing into the wind. One thing that is a certainty; if you make DUST no longer profitable on the PS3, CCP will discontinue supporting it on the PS3. As for that causing a port (especially any time soon), that is not quite so certain.
I don't troll; I tell the truth.
I'm also known as "The ANTI-Propaganda Machine".
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Dalmont Legrand
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.10 16:51:00 -
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Moorian Flav wrote:Just to put things in perspective, there were way more players and way more outrage during the EON alliance blue donut fiasco. There were multiple petitions, tickets, and other complaints submitted about flawed PC mechanics being exploited for hundreds of millions (likely billions) of ISK that would forever unbalance the DUST economy.
Q: You know what CCP did? A: Nothing
Therefore, you are essentially pissing into the wind. One thing that is a certainty; if you make DUST no longer profitable on the PS3, CCP will discontinue supporting it on the PS3. As for that causing a port (especially any time soon), that is not quite so certain.
Big flaw in your reasoning. They won't discontinue profitable project. They don't spend on it now, true. They don't speak to us about future, true. They didn't present anything about DUST on Fanfest, true. So if our thing will work at least on some of these parts then I say it works. Of course, they will act like nothing happens to play cool but they are humans like all of us.
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Moorian Flav
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Posted - 2015.11.10 16:57:00 -
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Quote:They don't spend on it now, true. How is this true? Are you saying Rattati and the Shanghai team work for free. Sure, they also work on other stuff like Gunjack but they are also spending billable time on DUST or 1.3 would not be coming out and 1.2 would not have happened.
I don't troll; I tell the truth.
I'm also known as "The ANTI-Propaganda Machine".
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Twelve Guage
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.11.10 17:04:00 -
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Moorian Flav wrote: Did anyone (besides me) come to the thought "There is so little news on DUST's future because DUST's future is so uncertain for CCP"?
That kind of thinking don't do that.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.11.10 17:13:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote: Nope. He's skipping a lot of the parts. And he's going over on the base price. He didn't add in a kb/m, WiFi/Ethernet modules,proper internal cooling like johnny said. Guess you can't build a PC that beats the ps4 at the same price.
Whoever got you guys running around rambling "proper internal cooling" has played a cruel joke on you.
AMD processors come with a great stock heat sync and fan.
Nearly every graphics card made in the last 10 years comes with a stock fan. This of course doesn't not include the super low end Radeon type cards which are going to freeze up before they can get hot enough if you are putting any real load on them.
Nearly every case comes with at very minimum a front 120mm fan. Not like $5 for an additional 120mm LED fan is really going to break the build budget.
Unless you plan on wrapping your PC in a blanket "proper internal cooling" is not even close to an issue.
On to the price thing. you are correct that $450 probably will not cover it for a mid level rig. The funny thing is that is going to leave you in dump town on the PS4.
Lets look at some numbers over a 4 year period.
PS4 Bundle with 1 game = $350 + tax + shipping = $380 (rough number) PS+ 1 year membership = $50 * 4 years assuming no price changes = $200 Basic level full headset = $50 Additional games = $50 each (averaged for sales and discounts) * 2 games every 6 months = $800 DLCs on each game I will not add in because that is highly variable just remember that possible cost is there. For the average person in 4 years you can assume 1 replacement controller = $60
So now in a 4 year period to get basic enjoyment out of your shiny new PS4 we are at $1,490 not including DLCs and possible extra controllers.
A well built PC from current parts currently would have no problem lasting 4 years with zero upgrades. No it will not be running 4k but it will hold 1080p @ 60 - 120hz on any game out there which is far more than the PS4 can say.
This "well built PC" I mention is probably going to run you about $800 - $850 including all of the essentials plus a basic headset and an adjustable gaming mouse.
Steam is not a subscription service.
Additional games we will call a $30 average thanks to never ending sales and an amazing amount of free games. For the same number of games as my PS4 example = $480
Replacement of the gaming mouse I mentioned $50.
Putting the grand total at $1,480.
My point here is all of you guys arguing over price point are wasting your time. On top of my above estimates, the more active you are in PC gaming the more it will cost and the more active you are on PS4 the more it will cost. The only difference is what form the cash grab really takes on.
Ultimately the PC does have a higher up front cost with cheaper participation and more long term abilities through small upgrades.
I have already said in my previous analysis of CCP that I very strongly believe that PS4 is the way to go from both a community standpoint and from a monetary stand point for CCP.
Stop with the wasting time on PC versus PS4 debate. We get it, you like console and do not want to build a PC. We get it you think PC is far better. I have both sitting right here and can tell you that like everything else in life they both have their strengths and weaknesses so it comes down to preference.
In terms of arguing on where the port is going, STOP WASTING YOUR BREATH. CCP has very likely been working on the Legion code in the background this whole time while they farm the PS3 players for all of the money they can. This means that a platform has long been decided and nothing you say here is anything more than blowing hot air.
Before you PC guys say SEE THEY BEEN BUILDING IT just remember that the PS4 is internally structured to resemble a PC meaning they could have literally dropped the code over and started working on a control scheme and basic optimizations at any time. There is simply no way to know where they will end up without waiting.
If all you guys would put this effort into telling CCP it is time to break the silence and quit dumping on the future of this game a few people giving up at a time we would probably already have a freaking announcement.
Show there is a future #CCPSpeakOn514
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Dalmont Legrand
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.10 20:01:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote: Nope. He's skipping a lot of the parts. And he's going over on the base price. He didn't add in a kb/m, WiFi/Ethernet modules,proper internal cooling like johnny said. Guess you can't build a PC that beats the ps4 at the same price.
Whoever got you guys running around rambling "proper internal cooling" has played a cruel joke on you. AMD processors come with a great stock heat sync and fan. Nearly every graphics card made in the last 10 years comes with a stock fan. This of course doesn't not include the super low end Radeon type cards which are going to freeze up before they can get hot enough if you are putting any real load on them. Nearly every case comes with at very minimum a front 120mm fan. Not like $5 for an additional 120mm LED fan is really going to break the build budget. Unless you plan on wrapping your PC in a blanket "proper internal cooling" is not even close to an issue. On to the price thing. you are correct that $450 probably will not cover it for a mid level rig. The funny thing is that is going to leave you in dump town on the PS4. Lets look at some numbers over a 4 year period. PS4 Bundle with 1 game = $350 + tax + shipping = $380 (rough number) PS+ 1 year membership = $50 * 4 years assuming no price changes = $200 Basic level full headset = $50 Additional games = $50 each (averaged for sales and discounts) * 2 games every 6 months = $800 DLCs on each game I will not add in because that is highly variable just remember that possible cost is there. For the average person in 4 years you can assume 1 replacement controller = $60 So now in a 4 year period to get basic enjoyment out of your shiny new PS4 we are at $1,490 not including DLCs and possible extra controllers. A well built PC from current parts currently would have no problem lasting 4 years with zero upgrades. No it will not be running 4k but it will hold 1080p @ 60 - 120hz on any game out there which is far more than the PS4 can say. This "well built PC" I mention is probably going to run you about $800 - $850 including all of the essentials plus a basic headset and an adjustable gaming mouse. Steam is not a subscription service. Additional games we will call a $30 average thanks to never ending sales and an amazing amount of free games. For the same number of games as my PS4 example = $480 Replacement of the gaming mouse I mentioned $50. Putting the grand total at $1,380. My point here is all of you guys arguing over price point are wasting your time. On top of my above estimates, the more active you are in PC gaming the more it will cost and the more active you are on PS4 the more it will cost. The only difference is what form the cash grab really takes on. Ultimately the PC does have a higher up front cost with cheaper participation and more long term abilities through small upgrades. Where the port may or may not goI have already said in my previous analysis of CCP that I very strongly believe that PS4 is the way to go from both a community standpoint and from a monetary stand point for CCP. Stop with the wasting time on PC versus PS4 debate. We get it, you like console and do not want to build a PC. We get it you think PC is far better. I have both sitting right here and can tell you that like everything else in life they both have their strengths and weaknesses so it comes down to preference. In terms of arguing on where the port is going, STOP WASTING YOUR BREATH. CCP has very likely been working on the Legion code in the background this whole time while they farm the PS3 players for all of the money they can. This means that a platform has long been decided and nothing you say here is anything more than blowing hot air. Before you PC guys say SEE THEY BEEN BUILDING IT just remember that the PS4 is internally structured to resemble a PC meaning they could have literally dropped the code over and started working on a control scheme and basic optimizations at any time. There is simply no way to know where they will end up without waiting. If all you guys would put this effort into telling CCP it is time to break the silence and quit dumping on the future of this game a few people giving up at a time we would probably already have a freaking announcement.
True very much. CCP cant afford losing playerbase now. We press on balance sheet of the company. Nothing works better than threat to profits.
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D4GG3R
Opus Arcana
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Posted - 2015.11.10 20:15:00 -
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Moorian Flav wrote:Just to put things in perspective, there were way more players and way more outrage during the EON alliance blue donut fiasco. There were multiple petitions, tickets, and other complaints submitted about flawed PC mechanics being exploited for hundreds of millions (likely billions) of ISK that would forever unbalance the DUST economy.
Q: You know what CCP did? A: Nothing
Therefore, you are essentially pissing into the wind. One thing that is a certainty; if you make DUST no longer profitable on the PS3, CCP will discontinue supporting it on the PS3. As for that causing a port (especially any time soon), that is not quite so certain.
They don't listen nomed
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DozersMouse XIII
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.11.10 22:08:00 -
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Dalmont Legrand wrote:DozersMouse XIII wrote:Not striking
CCP's laughing at you It laughs at you as well because it laughs at everyone. Welcome to 2015 with pre-history. Were you born yesterday? And I'm laughing at this subject because of how stupid it really is. Do us a favour and boycott gaming in general.
addicted to the Kubo's GMK-16 banana cannon
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DozersMouse XIII
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.11.10 22:09:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:DozersMouse XIII wrote:Not striking
CCP's laughing at you They actually luagh on you, because you douing everything in their favor. I remember time when they were pretty sh1t3d out in EvE by similar action. Get a girlfriend.
addicted to the Kubo's GMK-16 banana cannon
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SgtDoughnut
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.11.10 22:17:00 -
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I will never get why people think PS will have a bigger or better community. Almost everyone owns a PC, hell most PS users own a PC. On top of that every single person who plays EVE has a PC. It just makes more sense to port it to PC than to PS4. And you can easily hook up a dual shock to your pc to have the control scheme you like, no matter how inferior it is. |
DozersMouse XIII
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.11.10 22:21:00 -
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SgtDoughnut wrote:I will never get why people think PS will have a bigger or better community. Almost everyone owns a PC, hell most PS users own a PC. On top of that every single person who plays EVE has a PC. It just makes more sense to port it to PC than to PS4. And you can easily hook up a dual shock to your pc to have the control scheme you like, no matter how inferior it is. Port to PC refine it then port to console
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2015.11.10 22:27:00 -
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I will prefere ps4 or fix DUST what we have now.
BUT
I have Pc ton the greatest one (propably pretty crappy one) and there is my major issue. First of all hardaware, second of all Hackers and third (morelikely the biggest one)
-ARE WE ALL SURE IT IS NOT BE JUST DUST WITH BETTER GRAPHICS?-
I mean what guarantie us that will be flawless port? We already saw how they did not fixed basic bugs in game since public release. What guarantie us the new version will be without it and with better support?
That is my major issue
"I'm glad there is still Fallout because game development is dead."
One common gamer
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
11
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Posted - 2015.11.10 22:28:00 -
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there has never been a flawless release of any game, ever. all of them have had bugs.
If you want perfection, just get on your knees and beg God to open a development studio.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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DozersMouse XIII
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.11.10 22:29:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:I will prefere ps4 or fix DUST what we have now.
BUT
I have Pc ton the greatest one (propably pretty crappy one) and there is my major issue. First of all hardaware, second of all Hackers and third (morelikely the biggest one)
-ARE WE ALL SURE IT IS NOT BE JUST DUST WITH BETTER GRAPHICS?-
I mean what guarantie us that will be flawless port? We already saw how they did not fixed basic bugs in game since public release. What guarantie us the new version will be without it and with better support?
That is my major issue
Like I said. GIRLFRIEND get one.
addicted to the Kubo's GMK-16 banana cannon
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2015.11.10 22:30:00 -
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DozersMouse XIII wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:I will prefere ps4 or fix DUST what we have now.
BUT
I have Pc ton the greatest one (propably pretty crappy one) and there is my major issue. First of all hardaware, second of all Hackers and third (morelikely the biggest one)
-ARE WE ALL SURE IT IS NOT BE JUST DUST WITH BETTER GRAPHICS?-
I mean what guarantie us that will be flawless port? We already saw how they did not fixed basic bugs in game since public release. What guarantie us the new version will be without it and with better support?
That is my major issue
Like I said. GIRLFRIEND get one.
Your girlfriend have better graphix and its laggy? Or whaaaaaat XD
"I'm glad there is still Fallout because game development is dead."
One common gamer
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2015.11.10 22:31:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:there has never been a flawless release of any game, ever. all of them have had bugs.
If you want perfection, just get on your knees and beg God to open a development studio.
We are already some years behind the release boyo and we still have same bugs, not balanced stuff etc.
"I'm glad there is still Fallout because game development is dead."
One common gamer
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