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Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 708	Posted - 2015.10.29 17:02:00 - [1] - Quote The description of the sniper rifle says each round has a downrange velocity of 2,500m/s? Thats like really fast, that would cover several maps in under a second. I snipe obviously, and not every shot is instantaneous damage. So that speed is WRONG. If I'm 300 meters away, that redberry should be hit before a second. That is true, but its not .12th of a second EXACTLY. I'm not going to get angry at CCP for not making their weapon descriptions 100% accurate to the weapon itself. So, folks at CCP or fellow nerds on the forums, please answer these 3 questions: - How much mass would each 'beehive' sniper round have? Better yet how much would each round way in kilograms, that would be easier. - Is there a range difference for the Charge variant and the Officer variants comparable to the difference of the Tactical and Regular versions? (I've learned that its really easy to hunt Tactical Snipers with Regular Snipers because of that range difference) - Is the headshot bonus 3x damage? [I can guess its at least three times as much because with a regular unmodified sniper rifle, it takes about 3 body shots to kill a Min or Cal starter fit, 4 for Gal and Amarr. Getting one head shot will kill a Min or Cal starter fit, but will almost kill a Gal or Amarr. I assume thats because they have more armor, cause shooting them in the head leaves them with only a sliver of health. Dunt know tho] I want to do some boredom math. I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH
Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 91	Posted - 2015.10.29 17:11:00 - [2] - Quote it shows 280% when head shot but watever.....calmando with 2complex dmg mod, sniper proficiency 4 will kill anybody if headshot... just found cal assault op^^
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 708	Posted - 2015.10.29 17:17:00 - [3] - Quote Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack wrote: it shows 280% when head shot but watever.....calmando with 2complex dmg mod, sniper proficiency 4 will kill anybody if headshot... Why didn't I just look at the efficiency...It took me months to figure that out on my own I felt smart... Well anyway, I only have prof 1, but 3 enhanced dmg mods and a krins mod. With a charge snipper riffle. I did the math, a needle is pointless after a bullet in one ear and out the other. Hue. Ironic pun. I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH
Lightning35 Delta514 The Warlords Legion 2	Posted - 2015.10.29 17:22:00 - [4] - Quote Idk. What I do know is that snipers don't have the range they should, there is no prone position, they defiantly don't do the damage they should. Don't you think a futuristic sniper should take out a pro suit assault suit in like 2 shots? 3 for heavies? 1 for lights Unfortunately if it were like that, they would be op. CEO of T-W-L YouTube- Lightning35 Delta514 Twitter- @LD3514
Hylian11 Opus Arcana 413	Posted - 2015.10.29 17:31:00 - [5] - Quote Commando snipers...ugh...disgusting. I am an OG Scout Sniper, the true suit of the sniper, the scout, not commando. I went up against the likes of Gem and Zan, i was taught by Atiim and Gem. And I am saddened by how snipers are now. I can't even use em because they are just so bad. We need a buff. We need it now. *Spartans Never Die*
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 708	Posted - 2015.10.29 17:38:00 - [6] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Idk. What I do know is that snipers don't have the range they should, there is no prone position, they defiantly don't do the damage they should. Don't you think a futuristic sniper should take out a pro suit assault suit in like 2 shots? 3 for heavies? 1 for lights Unfortunately if it were like that, they would be op. Er well, if its a proto vs proto situation, you could kill a proto assault in one or two shots if your good. I've played my fair share of military games. I'm pretty sure snipers are supposed to eliminate a target swiftly and silently, meaning every shot taken is a kill. Or at least..thats what a good sniper is. No one is perfect, it can take multiple shots to kill a scout sometimes actually. But a GOOD sniper, like realistically good, gets a kill for each trigger pull. :D I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 708	Posted - 2015.10.29 17:39:00 - [7] - Quote Hylian11 wrote: Commando snipers...ugh...disgusting. I am an OG Scout Sniper, the true suit of the sniper, the scout, not commando. I went up against the likes of Gem and Zan, i was taught by Atiim and Gem. And I am saddened by how snipers are now. I can't even use em because they are just so bad. We need a buff. We need it now. We don't need buffs, we just need sniper class suits. Like a light frame subclass. I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH
Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 92	Posted - 2015.10.29 17:47:00 - [8] - Quote sry..... thales is the only weapon i call 'sniper'.... just found cal assault op^^
maybe deadcatz Serris Inc 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 18:18:00 - [9] - Quote Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack wrote: sry..... thales is the only weapon i call 'sniper'.... Funny,I like to call em "excess war point made into a laser strike on to the spot where we just scanned some super armour tanked suit with a 'sniper'" Or just campers.we call em useless squatting campers. (Gò«=^° -ë °^=)Gò«Gö¦GöüGöüGö¦ ( Gò»=^°Gûí°^=)Gò» Gö+GöüGöüGö+ Gù»n+Éo( =-ë=)y~~..nyaa Ha! You can't kill me,I'm already dead!
maybe deadcatz Serris Inc 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 18:25:00 - [10] - Quote On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Yet they only do like 200 damage and can be fire from a rifle? Them projectile must be like candy corn or popcorn kernels. Its either cheap mass produced projectiles or somehow drop suit armour and sheilds can resist 2500m/s personal railgun projectiles but somehow a commando can punch you for like 230 damage(1200hp with myos) lol science. (Gò«=^° -ë °^=)Gò«Gö¦GöüGöüGö¦ ( Gò»=^°Gûí°^=)Gò» Gö+GöüGöüGö+ Gù»n+Éo( =-ë=)y~~..nyaa Ha! You can't kill me,I'm already dead!

Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 709	Posted - 2015.10.29 18:29:00 - [11] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack wrote: sry..... thales is the only weapon i call 'sniper'.... Funny,I like to call em "excess war point made into a laser strike on to the spot where we just scanned some super armour tanked suit with a 'sniper'" Or just campers.we call em useless squatting campers. Lol, bruh do you even squat I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH
Hylian11 Opus Arcana 413	Posted - 2015.10.29 18:39:00 - [12] - Quote Cloak Dog wrote: Hylian11 wrote: Commando snipers...ugh...disgusting. I am an OG Scout Sniper, the true suit of the sniper, the scout, not commando. I went up against the likes of Gem and Zan, i was taught by Atiim and Gem. And I am saddened by how snipers are now. I can't even use em because they are just so bad. We need a buff. We need it now. We don't need buffs, we just need sniper class suits. Like a light frame subclass. I would actually like that. And we do need a buff, a range buff, and a velocity buff where the bolt doesn't dissipate into thin air. What kind of non-plasma bullet dissipates man? Let us lie down, my squat game is strong, but i miss lying down to snipe. *Spartans Never Die*
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 709	Posted - 2015.10.29 18:52:00 - [13] - Quote Hylian11 wrote: Cloak Dog wrote: Hylian11 wrote: Commando snipers...ugh...disgusting. I am an OG Scout Sniper, the true suit of the sniper, the scout, not commando. I went up against the likes of Gem and Zan, i was taught by Atiim and Gem. And I am saddened by how snipers are now. I can't even use em because they are just so bad. We need a buff. We need it now. We don't need buffs, we just need sniper class suits. Like a light frame subclass. I would actually like that. And we do need a buff, a range buff, and a velocity buff where the bolt doesn't dissipate into thin air. What kind of non-plasma bullet dissipates man? Let us lie down, my squat game is strong, but i miss lying down to snipe. The ranges and bullet speeds are fine in my opinion. At some point its going to have to dissipate. Or at least slow down and eventually stop but... Sniper subclass fits tho...mmmm...I kind of want to...maybe...make stats for something like that...hmm.... I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 709	Posted - 2015.10.29 18:54:00 - [14] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Yet they only do like 200 damage and can be fire from a rifle? Them projectile must be like candy corn or popcorn kernels. Its either cheap mass produced projectiles or somehow drop suit armour and sheilds can resist 2500m/s personal railgun projectiles but somehow a commando can punch you for like 230 damage(1200hp with myos) lol science. Thats messed up. O-O I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 14	Posted - 2015.10.29 20:27:00 - [15] - Quote Cloak Dog wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Idk. What I do know is that snipers don't have the range they should, there is no prone position, they defiantly don't do the damage they should. Don't you think a futuristic sniper should take out a pro suit assault suit in like 2 shots? 3 for heavies? 1 for lights Unfortunately if it were like that, they would be op. Er well, if its a proto vs proto situation, you could kill a proto assault in one or two shots if your good. I've played my fair share of military games. I'm pretty sure snipers are supposed to eliminate a target swiftly and silently, meaning every shot taken is a kill. Or at least..thats what a good sniper is. No one is perfect, it can take multiple shots to kill a scout sometimes actually. But a GOOD sniper, like realistically good, gets a kill for each trigger pull. :D Good snipers hit center mass with a big ass round. Why get a headshot when you can blow a hole in their chest? Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_; Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 14	Posted - 2015.10.29 20:29:00 - [16] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Yet they only do like 200 damage and can be fire from a rifle? Them projectile must be like candy corn or popcorn kernels. Its either cheap mass produced projectiles or somehow drop suit armour and sheilds can resist 2500m/s personal railgun projectiles but somehow a commando can punch you for like 230 damage(1200hp with myos) lol science. Mach 1 is the speed of sound idiot, and its around 350 m/s, or ~800 mph. 2500 m/s = Mach 7, which is 7 times the speed of sound. Do you even math? Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_; Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
Skyline Lonewolf Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 280	Posted - 2015.10.29 20:44:00 - [17] - Quote be lucky that DUST is easy mode due to brick tanking and a chest shot and above isn't OHK. nothing to see here guys. just another Sniper thread that will be locked since it's not Assault weapon related, even though it clearly needs the tweaks for balance. move along now. I see you coming from a mile away.
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 709	Posted - 2015.10.29 23:17:00 - [18] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Yet they only do like 200 damage and can be fire from a rifle? Them projectile must be like candy corn or popcorn kernels. Its either cheap mass produced projectiles or somehow drop suit armour and sheilds can resist 2500m/s personal railgun projectiles but somehow a commando can punch you for like 230 damage(1200hp with myos) lol science. Mach 1 is the speed of sound idiot, and its around 350 m/s, or ~800 mph. 2500 m/s = Mach 7, which is 7 times the speed of sound. Do you even math? Since thats true there really isn't any point in me trying to find the actual speed of each shot. Either math straight CCP, or give sniper rifles extreme recoil buffs. I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH
Arkena Wyrnspire Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 28	Posted - 2015.10.29 23:25:00 - [19] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Good God. Do you know what the Mach measurement is based on? Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 709	Posted - 2015.10.29 23:28:00 - [20] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Good God. Do you know what the Mach measurement is based on? Well I'M pretty sure mach 10 is probably if not obviously faster than the speed of sound... I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH

Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 14	Posted - 2015.10.29 23:28:00 - [21] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Good God. Do you know what the Mach measurement is based on? Tad too slow Ark, already hit that nail Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_; Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
Radiant Pancake3 KILL-EM-QUICK 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 23:32:00 - [22] - Quote Hit it harder. Kinkyness intended as always. Learned the ways of N4g from Alcina's mom Deemed the most Kinkiest Corp Mate. Min Loyalist.
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 709	Posted - 2015.10.29 23:39:00 - [23] - Quote Radiant Pancake3 wrote: Hit it harder. Kinkyness intended as always. Actually someone needs to pull the nail out, it was hammered in the wrong hole. EDIT: Wrong...nevermind I tried. I don't even know how to use a hammer anyway. I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH
maybe deadcatz Serris Inc 1	Posted - 2015.10.30 00:09:00 - [24] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Good God. Do you know what the Mach measurement is based on? See how its in bold? Its called emphasis. Pointing out the obvious. Why so bent? I STILL find it stupid that a commando can punch for more damage than a friggen railgun. (Gò«=^° -ë °^=)Gò«Gö¦GöüGöüGö¦ ( Gò»=^°Gûí°^=)Gò» Gö+GöüGöüGö+ Gù»n+Éo( =-ë=)y~~..nyaa Ha! You can't kill me,I'm already dead!
Arkena Wyrnspire Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 28	Posted - 2015.10.30 00:12:00 - [25] - Quote Cloak Dog wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Good God. Do you know what the Mach measurement is based on? Well I'M pretty sure mach 10 is probably if not obviously faster than the speed of sound... The entire Mach system is based on the speed of sound. Mach 1 = the speed of sound. The system even changes as environmental conditions and the speed of sound does. Mach 10 is 10 times the speed of sound, exactly. For that matter 2,500 m/s is not Mach 10 as most people would understand it. Sea-level standard atmospheric conditions put Mach 1 at 340.3 m/s - ergo, Mach 10 is 3403 m/s. 3403 =/= 2500. It's potentially true in odd conditions that Mach 10 would equal 2500 m/s but those would be indeed be odd conditions and DUST is based on Earth standard conditions anyway. Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
Arkena Wyrnspire Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 28	Posted - 2015.10.30 00:16:00 - [26] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Good God. Do you know what the Mach measurement is based on? See how its in bold? Its called emphasis. Pointing out the obvious. Your poor English obfuscated that. Quote: I STILL find it stupid that a commando can punch for more damage than a friggen railgun. It's a game. Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
Arkena Wyrnspire Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 28	Posted - 2015.10.30 00:17:00 - [27] - Quote Cloak Dog wrote: - How much mass would each 'beehive' sniper round have? Better yet how much would each round way in kilograms, that would be easier. I want to do some boredom math. I don't think we can get a decent or easy answer for this but I'm going to have a look at it anyway. At a guess it'd have very low mass, though. Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
maybe deadcatz Serris Inc 1	Posted - 2015.10.30 00:23:00 - [28] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Good God. Do you know what the Mach measurement is based on? See how its in bold? Its called emphasis. Pointing out the obvious. Your poor English obfuscated that. Quote: I STILL find it stupid that a commando can punch for more damage than a friggen railgun. It's a game. Read the title. Even the title is misspelled. The fact that you're getting bent over spelling and grammer is starting to killing the humor of the thread. Now if you'll excuse me I'm gonna go stack myos on a commando and punch for 1230 something HP. Because apparently snipers only do around 200 something damage. My fist 1200+ damage,personal handheld rail gun with 2500m/s projectiles,only 200 damage. The power of dust COMPELS YOU(smashes redberry in face) (Gò«=^° -ë °^=)Gò«Gö¦GöüGöüGö¦ ( Gò»=^°Gûí°^=)Gò» Gö+GöüGöüGö+ Gù»n+Éo( =-ë=)y~~..nyaa Ha! You can't kill me,I'm already dead!
Kail Mako Capital Acquisitions LLC 179	Posted - 2015.10.30 01:14:00 - [29] - Quote Hylian11 wrote: Commando snipers...ugh...disgusting. I am an OG Scout Sniper, the true suit of the sniper, the scout, not commando. I went up against the likes of Gem and Zan, i was taught by Atiim and Gem. And I am saddened by how snipers are now. I can't even use em because they are just so bad. We need a buff. We need it now. Am I the only person who snipes in a logi suit? Oh, and I want my 600m back! The longest kill I've ever made? 599m. Heh, poor sod never saw it coming. Another point of interest. Until an officer variant of Kaalakiota Snipers come out, Proto > Officer/Experimental. Officially recognized for advancing the science of getting bent.
Kail Mako Capital Acquisitions LLC 179	Posted - 2015.10.30 01:18:00 - [30] - Quote Cloak Dog wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Yet they only do like 200 damage and can be fire from a rifle? Them projectile must be like candy corn or popcorn kernels. Its either cheap mass produced projectiles or somehow drop suit armour and sheilds can resist 2500m/s personal railgun projectiles but somehow a commando can punch you for like 230 damage(1200hp with myos) lol science. Mach 1 is the speed of sound idiot, and its around 350 m/s, or ~800 mph. 2500 m/s = Mach 7, which is 7 times the speed of sound. Do you even math? Since thats true there really isn't any point in me trying to find the actual speed of each shot. Either math straight CCP, or give sniper rifles extreme recoil buffs. I think it needs more than extreme recoil buffs. If something exceed the speed of sound it causes a sonic boom. The force of that alone should kill you. Officially recognized for advancing the science of getting bent.

Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 714	Posted - 2015.10.30 01:20:00 - [31] - Quote Kail Mako wrote: Cloak Dog wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Yet they only do like 200 damage and can be fire from a rifle? Them projectile must be like candy corn or popcorn kernels. Its either cheap mass produced projectiles or somehow drop suit armour and sheilds can resist 2500m/s personal railgun projectiles but somehow a commando can punch you for like 230 damage(1200hp with myos) lol science. Mach 1 is the speed of sound idiot, and its around 350 m/s, or ~800 mph. 2500 m/s = Mach 7, which is 7 times the speed of sound. Do you even math? Since thats true there really isn't any point in me trying to find the actual speed of each shot. Either math straight CCP, or give sniper rifles extreme recoil buffs. I think it needs more than extreme recoil buffs. If something exceeds the speed of sound it causes a sonic boom. The force of that alone should kill you. Doesn't matter in the end. These are DUST514 Physics, which are in all ways basically pseudoscience. Which is the best science. I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1	Posted - 2015.10.30 01:43:00 - [32] - Quote Hylian11 wrote: Commando snipers...ugh...disgusting. I am an OG Scout Sniper, the true suit of the sniper, the scout, not commando. I went up against the likes of Gem and Zan, i was taught by Atiim and Gem. And I am saddened by how snipers are now. I can't even use em because they are just so bad. We need a buff. We need it now. Scout sniper = only sniper. CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1	Posted - 2015.10.30 01:48:00 - [33] - Quote Cloak Dog wrote: Kail Mako wrote: Cloak Dog wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Yet they only do like 200 damage and can be fire from a rifle? Them projectile must be like candy corn or popcorn kernels. Its either cheap mass produced projectiles or somehow drop suit armour and sheilds can resist 2500m/s personal railgun projectiles but somehow a commando can punch you for like 230 damage(1200hp with myos) lol science. Mach 1 is the speed of sound idiot, and its around 350 m/s, or ~800 mph. 2500 m/s = Mach 7, which is 7 times the speed of sound. Do you even math? Since thats true there really isn't any point in me trying to find the actual speed of each shot. Either math straight CCP, or give sniper rifles extreme recoil buffs. I think it needs more than extreme recoil buffs. If something exceeds the speed of sound it causes a sonic boom. The force of that alone should kill you. Doesn't matter in the end. These are DUST514 Physics, which are in all ways basically pseudoscience. Which is the best science. This just in: - there are no guided missiles on tanks. - ships warp through planets - ships do not continue moving in the same direction after thrust is applied in a different direction. - clone jumping does not utterly destroy your mind. - clones "beam down" magically to planets through links and CRUs. - peanut butter can not, in fact, play record albums. CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
Hylian11 Opus Arcana 426	Posted - 2015.10.30 01:59:00 - [34] - Quote Kail Mako wrote: Hylian11 wrote: Commando snipers...ugh...disgusting. I am an OG Scout Sniper, the true suit of the sniper, the scout, not commando. I went up against the likes of Gem and Zan, i was taught by Atiim and Gem. And I am saddened by how snipers are now. I can't even use em because they are just so bad. We need a buff. We need it now. Am I the only person who snipes in a logi suit? Oh, and I want my 600m back! The longest kill I've ever made? 599m. Heh, poor sod never saw it coming. Another point of interest. Until an officer variant of Kaalakiota Snipers come out, Proto > Officer/Experimental. I have been killed by your Logi Sniper, shocked the hell out of me, props. *Spartans Never Die*
Anmol Singh G0DS AM0NG MEN 1	Posted - 2015.10.30 02:15:00 - [35] - Quote Cloak Dog wrote: The description of the sniper rifle says each round has a downrange velocity of 2,500m/s? Thats like really fast, that would cover several maps in under a second. I snipe obviously, and not every shot is instantaneous damage. So that speed is WRONG. If I'm 300 meters away, that redberry should be hit before a second. That is true, but its not .12th of a second EXACTLY. I'm not going to get angry at CCP for not making their weapon descriptions 100% accurate to the weapon itself. So, folks at CCP or fellow nerds on the forums, please answer these 3 questions: - How much mass would each 'beehive' sniper round have? Better yet how much would each round way in kilograms, that would be easier. - Is there a range difference for the Charge variant and the Officer variants comparable to the difference of the Tactical and Regular versions? (I've learned that its really easy to hunt Tactical Snipers with Regular Snipers because of that range difference) - Is the headshot bonus 3x damage? [I can guess its at least three times as much because with a regular unmodified sniper rifle, it takes about 3 body shots to kill a Min or Cal starter fit, 4 for Gal and Amarr. Getting one head shot will kill a Min or Cal starter fit, but will almost kill a Gal or Amarr. I assume thats because they have more armor, cause shooting them in the head leaves them with only a sliver of health. Dunt know tho] I want to do some boredom math. you lost me at "how much would each round way in kilograms. way. *Sagaris lover!!!* Commando <3
Kail Mako Capital Acquisitions LLC 181	Posted - 2015.10.30 03:22:00 - [36] - Quote Hylian11 wrote: Kail Mako wrote: Hylian11 wrote: Commando snipers...ugh...disgusting. I am an OG Scout Sniper, the true suit of the sniper, the scout, not commando. I went up against the likes of Gem and Zan, i was taught by Atiim and Gem. And I am saddened by how snipers are now. I can't even use em because they are just so bad. We need a buff. We need it now. Am I the only person who snipes in a logi suit? Oh, and I want my 600m back! The longest kill I've ever made? 599m. Heh, poor sod never saw it coming. Another point of interest. Until an officer variant of Kaalakiota Snipers come out, Proto > Officer/Experimental. I have been killed by your Logi Sniper, shocked the hell out of me, props. Really? Sorry about that, on the field if it's red it dies. I used to be a hell of a sniper, but now with a broken controller, and the average EHP of a suit exceeding 400 I can only make about 10 kills a match with one. I use the logi because I can carry lots of hives with it. Whenever I deploy hives after filling up my ammo I throw a bunch of grenades to use it up. Can't give my position away y'know. Officially recognized for advancing the science of getting bent.
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 723	Posted - 2015.10.30 03:24:00 - [37] - Quote Kail Mako wrote: Hylian11 wrote: Kail Mako wrote: Hylian11 wrote: Commando snipers...ugh...disgusting. I am an OG Scout Sniper, the true suit of the sniper, the scout, not commando. I went up against the likes of Gem and Zan, i was taught by Atiim and Gem. And I am saddened by how snipers are now. I can't even use em because they are just so bad. We need a buff. We need it now. Am I the only person who snipes in a logi suit? Oh, and I want my 600m back! The longest kill I've ever made? 599m. Heh, poor sod never saw it coming. Another point of interest. Until an officer variant of Kaalakiota Snipers come out, Proto > Officer/Experimental. I have been killed by your Logi Sniper, shocked the hell out of me, props. Really? Sorry about that, on the field if it's red it dies. I used to be a hell of a sniper, but now with a broken controller, and the average EHP of a suit exceeding 400 I can only make about 10 kills a match with one. I use the logi because I can carry lots of hives with it. Whenever I deploy hives after filling up my ammo I throw a bunch of grenades to use it up. Can't give my position away y'know. I use minmatar med frames...>~> I tend to be victim of sneaky scouts ironically. A sidearm is mandatory for me. I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 2	Posted - 2015.10.30 04:01:00 - [38] - Quote Cloak Dog wrote: The description of the sniper rifle says each round has a downrange velocity of 2,500m/s? Thats like really fast, that would cover several maps in under a second. I snipe obviously, and not every shot is instantaneous damage. So that speed is WRONG. If I'm 300 meters away, that redberry should be hit before a second. That is true, but its not .12th of a second EXACTLY. I'm not going to get angry at CCP for not making their weapon descriptions 100% accurate to the weapon itself. The sniper hits in this game ARE instataneous without any delay. But, the delay you are seeing is - the internet latency. Hence it might take some time for hit to register. KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading. Search "KEROBPO" for list of bpos for sale.
Skyline Lonewolf Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 281	Posted - 2015.10.30 04:31:00 - [39] - Quote Kail Mako wrote: Hylian11 wrote: Commando snipers...ugh...disgusting. I am an OG Scout Sniper, the true suit of the sniper, the scout, not commando. I went up against the likes of Gem and Zan, i was taught by Atiim and Gem. And I am saddened by how snipers are now. I can't even use em because they are just so bad. We need a buff. We need it now. Am I the only person who snipes in a logi suit? Oh, and I want my 600m back! The longest kill I've ever made? 599m. Heh, poor sod never saw it coming. Another point of interest. Until an officer variant of Kaalakiota Snipers come out, Proto > Officer/Experimental. i used to snipe in gal and cal logi suits, but then they nerfed damage mods, and keep buffing everything else. farthest in Uprising for me was 600.12m. a lot of us are saddened by how snipers are. a lot of OG snipers spec'd out of the weapon a while back and went into other things. that's kinda why the few of us dedicated snipers (even if we don't play the game anymore) are the only reasonable voices left to fight for balance tweaks. other guys don't visit the forums or quit the game. definately could use buffs (base damage and range imo) but not without some map changes (redline distance). I see you coming from a mile away.
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1	Posted - 2015.10.30 05:09:00 - [40] - Quote Skyline Lonewolf wrote: Kail Mako wrote: Hylian11 wrote: Commando snipers...ugh...disgusting. I am an OG Scout Sniper, the true suit of the sniper, the scout, not commando. I went up against the likes of Gem and Zan, i was taught by Atiim and Gem. And I am saddened by how snipers are now. I can't even use em because they are just so bad. We need a buff. We need it now. Am I the only person who snipes in a logi suit? Oh, and I want my 600m back! The longest kill I've ever made? 599m. Heh, poor sod never saw it coming. Another point of interest. Until an officer variant of Kaalakiota Snipers come out, Proto > Officer/Experimental. i used to snipe in gal and cal logi suits, but then they nerfed damage mods, and keep buffing everything else. farthest in Uprising for me was 600.12m. a lot of us are saddened by how snipers are. a lot of OG snipers spec'd out of the weapon a while back and went into other things. that's kinda why the few of us dedicated snipers (even if we don't play the game anymore) are the only reasonable voices left to fight for balance tweaks. other guys don't visit the forums or quit the game. definately could use buffs (base damage and range imo) but not without some map changes (redline distance). I used to be a sniper, then I took a round to the knee. P.S. Sorry, had to be done. CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.

Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 73	Posted - 2015.10.30 10:04:00 - [41] - Quote Cloak Dog wrote: The description of the sniper rifle says each round has a downrange velocity of 2,500m/s? Thats like really fast, that would cover several maps in under a second. I snipe obviously, and not every shot is instantaneous damage. So that speed is WRONG. If I'm 300 meters away, that redberry should be hit before a second. That is true, but its not .12th of a second EXACTLY. I'm not going to get angry at CCP for not making their weapon descriptions 100% accurate to the weapon itself. So, folks at CCP or fellow nerds on the forums, please answer these 3 questions: - How much mass would each 'beehive' sniper round have? Better yet how much would each round way in kilograms, that would be easier. - Is there a range difference for the Charge variant and the Officer variants comparable to the difference of the Tactical and Regular versions? (I've learned that its really easy to hunt Tactical Snipers with Regular Snipers because of that range difference) - Is the headshot bonus 3x damage? [I can guess its at least three times as much because with a regular unmodified sniper rifle, it takes about 3 body shots to kill a Min or Cal starter fit, 4 for Gal and Amarr. Getting one head shot will kill a Min or Cal starter fit, but will almost kill a Gal or Amarr. I assume thats because they have more armor, cause shooting them in the head leaves them with only a sliver of health. Dunt know tho] I want to do some boredom math. It's instantaneous enough. The only reason it would appear not to be is lag.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 73	Posted - 2015.10.30 10:06:00 - [42] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Idk. What I do know is that snipers don't have the range they should, there is no prone position, they defiantly don't do the damage they should. Don't you think a futuristic sniper should take out a pro suit assault suit in like 2 shots? 3 for heavies? 1 for lights Unfortunately if it were like that, they would be op. I've made all of these arguments myself. The way the sniper rifle (snipper riffle) is implemented in this game is a joke.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 73	Posted - 2015.10.30 10:13:00 - [43] - Quote Hylian11 wrote: Commando snipers...ugh...disgusting. I am an OG Scout Sniper, the true suit of the sniper, the scout, not commando. I went up against the likes of Gem and Zan, i was taught by Atiim and Gem. And I am saddened by how snipers are now. I can't even use em because they are just so bad. We need a buff. We need it now. We won't get a buff. The people who own CCP don't want certain roles in the game and nerfed those roles to oblivion. They're only kept in the game for cosmetic appeal. A good sniper is supposed to be almost undetectable, probably only makes one or two kills at most and should receive huge payouts for such kills, to compare with the sort of payouts people with opportunity to make many more kills than they can. By making the redline so small and nerfing the range of the SR to something like <500m (totally ridiculous) the SR is now more a close range single shot rifle. The sniper role has all but disappeared. P.S. I also only snipe in a scout suit (Hawk) modified with a SR, but still with the cloak and profile dampeners so I can still act as a scout as well.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 73	Posted - 2015.10.30 10:19:00 - [44] - Quote Cloak Dog wrote: Hylian11 wrote: Commando snipers...ugh...disgusting. I am an OG Scout Sniper, the true suit of the sniper, the scout, not commando. I went up against the likes of Gem and Zan, i was taught by Atiim and Gem. And I am saddened by how snipers are now. I can't even use em because they are just so bad. We need a buff. We need it now. We don't need buffs, we just need sniper class suits. Like a light frame subclass. How would that be different from a scout?
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 73	Posted - 2015.10.30 10:20:00 - [45] - Quote Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack wrote: sry..... thales is the only weapon i call 'sniper'.... I don't call any of them "sniper" because they don't exhibit the range of a SR. That's including the Thales.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 73	Posted - 2015.10.30 10:22:00 - [46] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Yet they only do like 200 damage and can be fire from a rifle? Them projectile must be like candy corn or popcorn kernels. Its either cheap mass produced projectiles or somehow drop suit armour and sheilds can resist 2500m/s personal railgun projectiles but somehow a commando can punch you for like 230 damage(1200hp with myos) lol science. What?? Mach 10 is by definition 10 times the speed of sound!! As for the rest, lol science indeed....
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 73	Posted - 2015.10.30 10:27:00 - [47] - Quote Cloak Dog wrote: Hylian11 wrote: Cloak Dog wrote: Hylian11 wrote: Commando snipers...ugh...disgusting. I am an OG Scout Sniper, the true suit of the sniper, the scout, not commando. I went up against the likes of Gem and Zan, i was taught by Atiim and Gem. And I am saddened by how snipers are now. I can't even use em because they are just so bad. We need a buff. We need it now. We don't need buffs, we just need sniper class suits. Like a light frame subclass. I would actually like that. And we do need a buff, a range buff, and a velocity buff where the bolt doesn't dissipate into thin air. What kind of non-plasma bullet dissipates man? Let us lie down, my squat game is strong, but i miss lying down to snipe. The ranges and bullet speeds are fine in my opinion. At some point its going to have to dissipate. Or at least slow down and eventually stop but... Sniper subclass fits tho...mmmm...I kind of want to...maybe...make stats for something like that...hmm.... No, the range is ridiculous. Anything that travels 2.5km/s (that's 2.5 kilometres per second...) doesn't "dissipate" within a few seconds, that's at least 5km (not 500m!!) and yes it eventually "slows down" but it only stops when it follows a trajectory to hit something. The idea that this could be anything like 500m is just ridiculous.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 73	Posted - 2015.10.30 10:36:00 - [48] - Quote Cloak Dog wrote: Kail Mako wrote: Cloak Dog wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Yet they only do like 200 damage and can be fire from a rifle? Them projectile must be like candy corn or popcorn kernels. Its either cheap mass produced projectiles or somehow drop suit armour and sheilds can resist 2500m/s personal railgun projectiles but somehow a commando can punch you for like 230 damage(1200hp with myos) lol science. Mach 1 is the speed of sound idiot, and its around 350 m/s, or ~800 mph. 2500 m/s = Mach 7, which is 7 times the speed of sound. Do you even math? Since thats true there really isn't any point in me trying to find the actual speed of each shot. Either math straight CCP, or give sniper rifles extreme recoil buffs. I think it needs more than extreme recoil buffs. If something exceeds the speed of sound it causes a sonic boom. The force of that alone should kill you. Doesn't matter in the end. These are DUST514 Physics, which are in all ways basically pseudoscience. Which is the best science. Same with the physics of spaceships in EvE. Each ship has a maximum velocity, not a maximum acceleration. Presumably because of the friction with the ether.... Yes, I'm joking.
Thaddeus Reynolds Facepunch Security 540	Posted - 2015.10.30 13:27:00 - [49] - Quote To answer your questions OP: 1) The mass of the projectile would depend on the density of the material used to make the projectile...now it is a rail projectile so we know that it needs to be conductive, have a conductive outer shell, or have a conductive sabot. It would also depend on what they mean when they say "beehive," as this could mean multiple projectiles that separate from a main shell (like a shotgun...or an airbursting round), it could mean that it has a beehive like structure to minimize mass (Why?), or it could mean that it is a fragmentation round that sends shrapnel is several directions after impacting/penetrating a target or target area. 2) The Variant Ranges are as follows: Tactical Variants (excluding 'Balac's"): 350m Range Charge Sniper Rifles (Including 'Symb's') and Balac's Sniper Rifle : 400m Range Vanilla Sniper Rifles (Including 'Thale's'): 450m Range 3) The Headshot Multipliers are as follows: Tactical Variants: 2x Charge Sniper Rifles (Including 'Symb's'): 3.5x Vanilla Sniper Rifles (Including 'Thale's'): 3x I think the Balac's might also have the 3.5x multiplier, but I accidentally deleted the video I had with it Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper.
Thaddeus Reynolds Facepunch Security 540	Posted - 2015.10.30 13:37:00 - [50] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: This just in: - there are no guided missiles on tanks. - ships warp through planets Granted Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: - ships do not continue moving in the same direction after thrust is applied in a different direction. Well...this is not entirely true, just the ship's "Max Velocity" is apparently the sum of all vectors the ship is on. I believe the only technobabble I've heard on the velocity thing being a side-effect of warp drive technology, exchange sublight velocity for the ability to go FTL...seems like a good trade. Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: - clone jumping does not utterly destroy your mind. Sufficiently Advanced Technology appears as magic Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: - clones "beam down" magically to planets through links and CRUs. "Spawn Beacons" are actually miniaturized versions of these: Cynosural Field Generator. The Warbarge locks a wormhole generator onto the selected Cyno Field, and your next clone steps through...radiation of the process takes that combat clone's lifespan from a month or so (since that dropsuit isn't exactly safe for use) to maybe a week at best...but who cares, its lifespan in most battles is measured in seconds. As for CRUs...as far as I know, they have a number of clones stored inside of them, plus the necessary systems to allow for the clone-jump Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper.

logan turnbull Hellstorm LLC 39	Posted - 2015.10.30 13:47:00 - [51] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Yet they only do like 200 damage and can be fire from a rifle? Them projectile must be like candy corn or popcorn kernels. Its either cheap mass produced projectiles or somehow drop suit armour and sheilds can resist 2500m/s personal railgun projectiles but somehow a commando can punch you for like 230 damage(1200hp with myos) lol science. By the way mach ten would be ten times faster than the speed of sound lets roll
Cesar Geronimo DUST University Ivy League 137	Posted - 2015.10.30 16:33:00 - [52] - Quote Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack wrote: sry..... Roden is the only weapon i call 'sniper'.... FIFY
Cesar Geronimo DUST University Ivy League 137	Posted - 2015.10.30 16:38:00 - [53] - Quote Hylian11 wrote: Commando snipers...ugh...disgusting. I am an OG Scout Sniper, the true suit of the sniper, the scout, not commando. I went up against the likes of Gem and Zan, i was taught by Atiim and Gem. And I am saddened by how snipers are now. I can't even use em because they are just so bad. We need a buff. We need it now. I like sniping in a commando suit because if I'm in my spot and can't find any targets because the flow of battle morphed elsewhere, I can just get off my duff, switch to my AR or whatever and join the fray without needing to swap my suit first...
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 731	Posted - 2015.10.30 16:53:00 - [54] - Quote Cesar Geronimo wrote: Hylian11 wrote: Commando snipers...ugh...disgusting. I am an OG Scout Sniper, the true suit of the sniper, the scout, not commando. I went up against the likes of Gem and Zan, i was taught by Atiim and Gem. And I am saddened by how snipers are now. I can't even use em because they are just so bad. We need a buff. We need it now. I like sniping in a commando suit because if I'm in my spot and can't find any targets because the flow of battle morphed elsewhere, I can just get off my duff, switch to my AR or whatever and join the fray without needing to swap my suit first... So, your lazy? All caldari scum are lazy. I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH
Cesar Geronimo DUST University Ivy League 138	Posted - 2015.10.30 16:55:00 - [55] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: I don't call any of them "sniper" because they don't exhibit the range of a SR. That's including the Thales. Fine, call them marksman rifles or whatever tickles your fancy... I don't know who all these people are who want some huge range/damage buff that will encourage folks to move even farther behind the redline... You'd need a perfect connection to even get your shot to register on a moving target, and once you get past 500-550m, things in your scope are going to look really "skippy"...Personally, I'd rather have an adjustable scope (or at least some better crosshairs) For all this talk about math and physics, we should be damned glad sniper shots are instant, linear and predictable; instead of how much more of a PITA it would be if we had to compensate for bullet drop...
logan turnbull Hellstorm LLC 40	Posted - 2015.10.30 17:53:00 - [56] - Quote By the way speed of sound is 340 meters per second so a dust514 sniper rifle has the velocity of mach 7.35 at the end of the barrel of the rifle so for a si fi sniper rifle the range of 450 meters is pathetic. lets roll
Cesar Geronimo DUST University Ivy League 140	Posted - 2015.10.30 19:44:00 - [57] - Quote logan turnbull wrote: By the way speed of sound is 340 meters per second so a dust514 sniper rifle has the velocity of mach 7.35 at the end of the barrel of the rifle so for a si fi sniper rifle the range of 450 meters is pathetic. At that velocity, the round disintegrates at right around 450m
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 733	Posted - 2015.10.30 20:22:00 - [58] - Quote Cesar Geronimo wrote: logan turnbull wrote: By the way speed of sound is 340 meters per second so a dust514 sniper rifle has the velocity of mach 7.35 at the end of the barrel of the rifle so for a si fi sniper rifle the range of 450 meters is pathetic. At that velocity, the round disintegrates at right around 450m Disintegrate. Aaah, that makes sense. Considering how fast its going. -_- I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH
Skyline Lonewolf Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 281	Posted - 2015.10.30 20:37:00 - [59] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Idk. What I do know is that snipers don't have the range they should, there is no prone position, they defiantly don't do the damage they should. Don't you think a futuristic sniper should take out a pro suit assault suit in like 2 shots? 3 for heavies? 1 for lights Unfortunately if it were like that, they would be op. I've made all of these arguments myself. The way the sniper rifle (snipper riffle) is implemented in this game is a joke. wouldn't be OP. would be balanced. every other FPS out there, as we've said time again, is balanced around infantry with 100 HP or some variation of it. chest shot takes you down to 25 HP or OHK with proper perks in some games, and head shots mean death. This game, however, doesn't work off of a 100 HP pool. it has various suits of various sizes and starting HP pools. With the current mechanics, head shot multiplier damage effectively does reflect that, but body shot damage doesn't. Take Symbs' feedback into consideration on how it's supposed to be from one of our previous sniper feedback threads and that's how it should be. It looks exactly like how Lightning has it laid out except for a +1 more shot if the person is brick tanking and most people brick tank. you work from the highest HP pool to the lowest. like i said, people have it easy in DUST, yet they cry like it's something new - a new concept they've never heard of cause they wanna hide behind their tanked out suit. play an actual competitive shooter and you will see that that's how sniper rifles are really balanced. why? cause they can't defend themselves up close unless they swap to their sidearm or support tools like C4/Proxies. all it takes is one shot to change the battle. multiple head shots if the sniper's good. go check out DarkBetrayed, MongolFPS, or SgtEnigma's sniper montages and you will see. I see you coming from a mile away.
maybe deadcatz Serris Inc 1	Posted - 2015.10.30 21:48:00 - [60] - Quote Cesar Geronimo wrote: logan turnbull wrote: By the way speed of sound is 340 meters per second so a dust514 sniper rifle has the velocity of mach 7.35 at the end of the barrel of the rifle so for a si fi sniper rifle the range of 450 meters is pathetic. At that velocity, the round disintegrates at right around 450m So its a expensive candy corn shooter. I'm pretty sure since there's no actual fire or explosive involved in a railgun and just fletchettes,I'm pretty sure it can hold up for a little more than just 450m. (Gò«=^° -ë °^=)Gò«Gö¦GöüGöüGö¦ ( Gò»=^°Gûí°^=)Gò» Gö+GöüGöüGö+ Gù»n+Éo( =-ë=)y~~..nyaa Ha! You can't kill me,I'm already dead!

Thaddeus Reynolds Facepunch Security 546	Posted - 2015.10.30 22:09:00 - [61] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: Cesar Geronimo wrote: logan turnbull wrote: By the way speed of sound is 340 meters per second so a dust514 sniper rifle has the velocity of mach 7.35 at the end of the barrel of the rifle so for a si fi sniper rifle the range of 450 meters is pathetic. At that velocity, the round disintegrates at right around 450m So its a expensive candy corn shooter. I'm pretty sure since there's no actual fire or explosive involved in a railgun and just fletchettes,I'm pretty sure it can hold up for a little more than just 450m. Well there is no explosive charge...but there is a significant amount of heat... Actual Railgun Firing The "Fire" you see is generated from friction and air displacement. (interestingly enough, the projectile was clocked at about 2.5k m/s) Smaller Projectiles may very well have a significant portion of their mass destroyed past a certain point depending on their composition...but I'm too tired and working on another spreadsheet right now to do that complex of math xD Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper. #PortDust514 ...Preferably to both PS4 and PC
Kail Mako Capital Acquisitions LLC 181	Posted - 2015.10.31 00:25:00 - [62] - Quote Thaddeus Reynolds wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: Cesar Geronimo wrote: logan turnbull wrote: By the way speed of sound is 340 meters per second so a dust514 sniper rifle has the velocity of mach 7.35 at the end of the barrel of the rifle so for a si fi sniper rifle the range of 450 meters is pathetic. At that velocity, the round disintegrates at right around 450m So its a expensive candy corn shooter. I'm pretty sure since there's no actual fire or explosive involved in a railgun and just fletchettes,I'm pretty sure it can hold up for a little more than just 450m. Well there is no explosive charge...but there is a significant amount of heat... Actual Railgun Firing The "Fire" you see is generated from friction and air displacement. (interestingly enough, the projectile was clocked at about 2.5k m/s) Smaller Projectiles may very well have a significant portion of their mass destroyed past a certain point depending on their composition...but I'm too tired and working on another spreadsheet right now to do that complex of math xD Railguns don't actually shoot things. They use magnetic forces to boost things along a conductive "rail," (in this case the sniper's barrel) at super high speeds. Let Mikasa Mikoto show you how they work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWMvG8rWMjA Notice that electrical charge that's around her? That's her manipulating the magnetic forces around her so she can create an invisible "rail" to fire the coin along. As a side note, the coin does disintegrate at 50m, but I'm not sure if that math is sound. This is what Wikipedia has to say about railguns: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railgun Officially recognized for advancing the science of getting bent.
Thaddeus Reynolds Facepunch Security 546	Posted - 2015.10.31 00:40:00 - [63] - Quote Kail Mako wrote: Thaddeus Reynolds wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: Cesar Geronimo wrote: logan turnbull wrote: By the way speed of sound is 340 meters per second so a dust514 sniper rifle has the velocity of mach 7.35 at the end of the barrel of the rifle so for a si fi sniper rifle the range of 450 meters is pathetic. At that velocity, the round disintegrates at right around 450m So its a expensive candy corn shooter. I'm pretty sure since there's no actual fire or explosive involved in a railgun and just fletchettes,I'm pretty sure it can hold up for a little more than just 450m. Well there is no explosive charge...but there is a significant amount of heat... Actual Railgun Firing The "Fire" you see is generated from friction and air displacement. (interestingly enough, the projectile was clocked at about 2.5k m/s) Smaller Projectiles may very well have a significant portion of their mass destroyed past a certain point depending on their composition...but I'm too tired and working on another spreadsheet right now to do that complex of math xD Railguns don't actually shoot things. They use magnetic forces to boost things along a conductive "rail," (in this case the sniper's barrel) at super high speeds. Let Mikasa Mikoto show you how they work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWMvG8rWMjA Notice that electrical charge that's around her? That's her manipulating the magnetic forces around her so she can create an invisible "rail" to fire the coin along. As a side note, the coin does disintegrate at 50m, but I'm not sure if that math is sound. This is what Wikipedia has to say about railguns: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railgun I use the terms "Firing" and "Shooting" because even in Archery, you can "dry fire" and loosing an arrow is often referred to as shooting...as for Biribiri accelerating a projectile using "virtual rails" as an example...yes, that's kind of how it works (assuming esper powers that are discreet from magic)...although notice how even there they show the coin getting extremely hot (not to mention it's an anime, and although the author did at least some of their homework, I don't know how much math they figured for the range on things)... While I like the anime you've linked...come on...I linked a real railgun...you know...one that actually exists...that is built, that has been used (under test conditions as far as we know)...and is frakking amazing? (and isn't a Gaus/Coilgun it's a Railgun) Edit: Another, albiet smaller railgun, firing Gallery of the smaller home-made railgun this guy did. Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper. #PortDust514 ...Preferably to both PS4 and PC
Cesar Geronimo DUST University Ivy League 141	Posted - 2015.11.02 00:02:00 - [64] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: Cesar Geronimo wrote: logan turnbull wrote: By the way speed of sound is 340 meters per second so a dust514 sniper rifle has the velocity of mach 7.35 at the end of the barrel of the rifle so for a si fi sniper rifle the range of 450 meters is pathetic. At that velocity, the round disintegrates at right around 450m So its a expensive candy corn shooter. I'm pretty sure since there's no actual fire or explosive involved in a railgun and just fletchettes,I'm pretty sure it can hold up for a little more than just 450m. Well, we're talking make-believe sci-fi physics anyway, so what the hell does it matter? If you have this overbearing need to engage infantry in this game at distances well past 450m, you're doing it wrong... Maybe sniping isn't for you.
Kail Mako Capital Acquisitions LLC 197	Posted - 2015.11.02 01:04:00 - [65] - Quote Cesar Geronimo wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: Cesar Geronimo wrote: logan turnbull wrote: By the way speed of sound is 340 meters per second so a dust514 sniper rifle has the velocity of mach 7.35 at the end of the barrel of the rifle so for a si fi sniper rifle the range of 450 meters is pathetic. At that velocity, the round disintegrates at right around 450m So its a expensive candy corn shooter. I'm pretty sure since there's no actual fire or explosive involved in a railgun and just fletchettes,I'm pretty sure it can hold up for a little more than just 450m. Well, we're talking make-believe sci-fi physics anyway, so what the hell does it matter? If you have this overbearing need to engage infantry in this game at distances well past 450m, you're doing it wrong... Maybe sniping isn't for you. Nah, I'm a real man. I like to look my enemy straight in the eye when I kill them. Well, straight in the eye through a high-powered sniper scope from 600m away. Officially recognized for advancing the science of getting bent.
Gh0st Blade KnightKiller's inc. 53	Posted - 2015.11.02 07:46:00 - [66] - Quote Kail Mako wrote: Hylian11 wrote: Commando snipers...ugh...disgusting. I am an OG Scout Sniper, the true suit of the sniper, the scout, not commando. I went up against the likes of Gem and Zan, i was taught by Atiim and Gem. And I am saddened by how snipers are now. I can't even use em because they are just so bad. We need a buff. We need it now. Am I the only person who snipes in a logi suit? Oh, and I want my 600m back! The longest kill I've ever made? 599m. Heh, poor sod never saw it coming. Another point of interest. Until an officer variant of Kaalakiota Snipers come out, Proto > Officer/Experimental. That's cute. My farthest kill was on a Skirmish Match back in the day and it was 927 meters. Yeah that Thale on the MCC who was an Ak0 Sent quit battle, MCC to his MCC. Well I was under mine I'm Casper the friendly teabagger
Thaddeus Reynolds Facepunch Security 547	Posted - 2015.11.02 09:16:00 - [67] - Quote Kail Mako wrote: Hylian11 wrote: Commando snipers...ugh...disgusting. I am an OG Scout Sniper, the true suit of the sniper, the scout, not commando. I went up against the likes of Gem and Zan, i was taught by Atiim and Gem. And I am saddened by how snipers are now. I can't even use em because they are just so bad. We need a buff. We need it now. Am I the only person who snipes in a logi suit? Oh, and I want my 600m back! The longest kill I've ever made? 599m. Heh, poor sod never saw it coming. Another point of interest. Until an officer variant of Kaalakiota Snipers come out, Proto > Officer/Experimental. Well there is an officer tactical sniper rifle...it is the Balac's Sniper rifle xD Granted...you're likely to pay upwards of 20million each for them. Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper. #PortDust514 ...Preferably to both PS4 and PC


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