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Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 708	Posted - 2015.10.29 17:02:00 - [1] - Quote The description of the sniper rifle says each round has a downrange velocity of 2,500m/s? Thats like really fast, that would cover several maps in under a second. I snipe obviously, and not every shot is instantaneous damage. So that speed is WRONG. If I'm 300 meters away, that redberry should be hit before a second. That is true, but its not .12th of a second EXACTLY. I'm not going to get angry at CCP for not making their weapon descriptions 100% accurate to the weapon itself. So, folks at CCP or fellow nerds on the forums, please answer these 3 questions: - How much mass would each 'beehive' sniper round have? Better yet how much would each round way in kilograms, that would be easier. - Is there a range difference for the Charge variant and the Officer variants comparable to the difference of the Tactical and Regular versions? (I've learned that its really easy to hunt Tactical Snipers with Regular Snipers because of that range difference) - Is the headshot bonus 3x damage? [I can guess its at least three times as much because with a regular unmodified sniper rifle, it takes about 3 body shots to kill a Min or Cal starter fit, 4 for Gal and Amarr. Getting one head shot will kill a Min or Cal starter fit, but will almost kill a Gal or Amarr. I assume thats because they have more armor, cause shooting them in the head leaves them with only a sliver of health. Dunt know tho] I want to do some boredom math. I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH
Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 91	Posted - 2015.10.29 17:11:00 - [2] - Quote it shows 280% when head shot but watever.....calmando with 2complex dmg mod, sniper proficiency 4 will kill anybody if headshot... just found cal assault op^^
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 708	Posted - 2015.10.29 17:17:00 - [3] - Quote Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack wrote: it shows 280% when head shot but watever.....calmando with 2complex dmg mod, sniper proficiency 4 will kill anybody if headshot... Why didn't I just look at the efficiency...It took me months to figure that out on my own I felt smart... Well anyway, I only have prof 1, but 3 enhanced dmg mods and a krins mod. With a charge snipper riffle. I did the math, a needle is pointless after a bullet in one ear and out the other. Hue. Ironic pun. I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH
Lightning35 Delta514 The Warlords Legion 2	Posted - 2015.10.29 17:22:00 - [4] - Quote Idk. What I do know is that snipers don't have the range they should, there is no prone position, they defiantly don't do the damage they should. Don't you think a futuristic sniper should take out a pro suit assault suit in like 2 shots? 3 for heavies? 1 for lights Unfortunately if it were like that, they would be op. CEO of T-W-L YouTube- Lightning35 Delta514 Twitter- @LD3514
Hylian11 Opus Arcana 413	Posted - 2015.10.29 17:31:00 - [5] - Quote Commando snipers...ugh...disgusting. I am an OG Scout Sniper, the true suit of the sniper, the scout, not commando. I went up against the likes of Gem and Zan, i was taught by Atiim and Gem. And I am saddened by how snipers are now. I can't even use em because they are just so bad. We need a buff. We need it now. *Spartans Never Die*
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 708	Posted - 2015.10.29 17:38:00 - [6] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Idk. What I do know is that snipers don't have the range they should, there is no prone position, they defiantly don't do the damage they should. Don't you think a futuristic sniper should take out a pro suit assault suit in like 2 shots? 3 for heavies? 1 for lights Unfortunately if it were like that, they would be op. Er well, if its a proto vs proto situation, you could kill a proto assault in one or two shots if your good. I've played my fair share of military games. I'm pretty sure snipers are supposed to eliminate a target swiftly and silently, meaning every shot taken is a kill. Or at least..thats what a good sniper is. No one is perfect, it can take multiple shots to kill a scout sometimes actually. But a GOOD sniper, like realistically good, gets a kill for each trigger pull. :D I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 708	Posted - 2015.10.29 17:39:00 - [7] - Quote Hylian11 wrote: Commando snipers...ugh...disgusting. I am an OG Scout Sniper, the true suit of the sniper, the scout, not commando. I went up against the likes of Gem and Zan, i was taught by Atiim and Gem. And I am saddened by how snipers are now. I can't even use em because they are just so bad. We need a buff. We need it now. We don't need buffs, we just need sniper class suits. Like a light frame subclass. I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH
Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 92	Posted - 2015.10.29 17:47:00 - [8] - Quote sry..... thales is the only weapon i call 'sniper'.... just found cal assault op^^
maybe deadcatz Serris Inc 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 18:18:00 - [9] - Quote Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack wrote: sry..... thales is the only weapon i call 'sniper'.... Funny,I like to call em "excess war point made into a laser strike on to the spot where we just scanned some super armour tanked suit with a 'sniper'" Or just campers.we call em useless squatting campers. (Gò«=^° -ë °^=)Gò«Gö¦GöüGöüGö¦ ( Gò»=^°Gûí°^=)Gò» Gö+GöüGöüGö+ Gù»n+Éo( =-ë=)y~~..nyaa Ha! You can't kill me,I'm already dead!
maybe deadcatz Serris Inc 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 18:25:00 - [10] - Quote On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Yet they only do like 200 damage and can be fire from a rifle? Them projectile must be like candy corn or popcorn kernels. Its either cheap mass produced projectiles or somehow drop suit armour and sheilds can resist 2500m/s personal railgun projectiles but somehow a commando can punch you for like 230 damage(1200hp with myos) lol science. (Gò«=^° -ë °^=)Gò«Gö¦GöüGöüGö¦ ( Gò»=^°Gûí°^=)Gò» Gö+GöüGöüGö+ Gù»n+Éo( =-ë=)y~~..nyaa Ha! You can't kill me,I'm already dead!

Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 709	Posted - 2015.10.29 18:29:00 - [11] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack wrote: sry..... thales is the only weapon i call 'sniper'.... Funny,I like to call em "excess war point made into a laser strike on to the spot where we just scanned some super armour tanked suit with a 'sniper'" Or just campers.we call em useless squatting campers. Lol, bruh do you even squat I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH
Hylian11 Opus Arcana 413	Posted - 2015.10.29 18:39:00 - [12] - Quote Cloak Dog wrote: Hylian11 wrote: Commando snipers...ugh...disgusting. I am an OG Scout Sniper, the true suit of the sniper, the scout, not commando. I went up against the likes of Gem and Zan, i was taught by Atiim and Gem. And I am saddened by how snipers are now. I can't even use em because they are just so bad. We need a buff. We need it now. We don't need buffs, we just need sniper class suits. Like a light frame subclass. I would actually like that. And we do need a buff, a range buff, and a velocity buff where the bolt doesn't dissipate into thin air. What kind of non-plasma bullet dissipates man? Let us lie down, my squat game is strong, but i miss lying down to snipe. *Spartans Never Die*
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 709	Posted - 2015.10.29 18:52:00 - [13] - Quote Hylian11 wrote: Cloak Dog wrote: Hylian11 wrote: Commando snipers...ugh...disgusting. I am an OG Scout Sniper, the true suit of the sniper, the scout, not commando. I went up against the likes of Gem and Zan, i was taught by Atiim and Gem. And I am saddened by how snipers are now. I can't even use em because they are just so bad. We need a buff. We need it now. We don't need buffs, we just need sniper class suits. Like a light frame subclass. I would actually like that. And we do need a buff, a range buff, and a velocity buff where the bolt doesn't dissipate into thin air. What kind of non-plasma bullet dissipates man? Let us lie down, my squat game is strong, but i miss lying down to snipe. The ranges and bullet speeds are fine in my opinion. At some point its going to have to dissipate. Or at least slow down and eventually stop but... Sniper subclass fits tho...mmmm...I kind of want to...maybe...make stats for something like that...hmm.... I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 709	Posted - 2015.10.29 18:54:00 - [14] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Yet they only do like 200 damage and can be fire from a rifle? Them projectile must be like candy corn or popcorn kernels. Its either cheap mass produced projectiles or somehow drop suit armour and sheilds can resist 2500m/s personal railgun projectiles but somehow a commando can punch you for like 230 damage(1200hp with myos) lol science. Thats messed up. O-O I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 14	Posted - 2015.10.29 20:27:00 - [15] - Quote Cloak Dog wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Idk. What I do know is that snipers don't have the range they should, there is no prone position, they defiantly don't do the damage they should. Don't you think a futuristic sniper should take out a pro suit assault suit in like 2 shots? 3 for heavies? 1 for lights Unfortunately if it were like that, they would be op. Er well, if its a proto vs proto situation, you could kill a proto assault in one or two shots if your good. I've played my fair share of military games. I'm pretty sure snipers are supposed to eliminate a target swiftly and silently, meaning every shot taken is a kill. Or at least..thats what a good sniper is. No one is perfect, it can take multiple shots to kill a scout sometimes actually. But a GOOD sniper, like realistically good, gets a kill for each trigger pull. :D Good snipers hit center mass with a big ass round. Why get a headshot when you can blow a hole in their chest? Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_; Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 14	Posted - 2015.10.29 20:29:00 - [16] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Yet they only do like 200 damage and can be fire from a rifle? Them projectile must be like candy corn or popcorn kernels. Its either cheap mass produced projectiles or somehow drop suit armour and sheilds can resist 2500m/s personal railgun projectiles but somehow a commando can punch you for like 230 damage(1200hp with myos) lol science. Mach 1 is the speed of sound idiot, and its around 350 m/s, or ~800 mph. 2500 m/s = Mach 7, which is 7 times the speed of sound. Do you even math? Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_; Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
Skyline Lonewolf Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 280	Posted - 2015.10.29 20:44:00 - [17] - Quote be lucky that DUST is easy mode due to brick tanking and a chest shot and above isn't OHK. nothing to see here guys. just another Sniper thread that will be locked since it's not Assault weapon related, even though it clearly needs the tweaks for balance. move along now. I see you coming from a mile away.
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 709	Posted - 2015.10.29 23:17:00 - [18] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Yet they only do like 200 damage and can be fire from a rifle? Them projectile must be like candy corn or popcorn kernels. Its either cheap mass produced projectiles or somehow drop suit armour and sheilds can resist 2500m/s personal railgun projectiles but somehow a commando can punch you for like 230 damage(1200hp with myos) lol science. Mach 1 is the speed of sound idiot, and its around 350 m/s, or ~800 mph. 2500 m/s = Mach 7, which is 7 times the speed of sound. Do you even math? Since thats true there really isn't any point in me trying to find the actual speed of each shot. Either math straight CCP, or give sniper rifles extreme recoil buffs. I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH
Arkena Wyrnspire Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 28	Posted - 2015.10.29 23:25:00 - [19] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Good God. Do you know what the Mach measurement is based on? Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 709	Posted - 2015.10.29 23:28:00 - [20] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Good God. Do you know what the Mach measurement is based on? Well I'M pretty sure mach 10 is probably if not obviously faster than the speed of sound... I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH

Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 14	Posted - 2015.10.29 23:28:00 - [21] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Good God. Do you know what the Mach measurement is based on? Tad too slow Ark, already hit that nail Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_; Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
Radiant Pancake3 KILL-EM-QUICK 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 23:32:00 - [22] - Quote Hit it harder. Kinkyness intended as always. Learned the ways of N4g from Alcina's mom Deemed the most Kinkiest Corp Mate. Min Loyalist.
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 709	Posted - 2015.10.29 23:39:00 - [23] - Quote Radiant Pancake3 wrote: Hit it harder. Kinkyness intended as always. Actually someone needs to pull the nail out, it was hammered in the wrong hole. EDIT: Wrong...nevermind I tried. I don't even know how to use a hammer anyway. I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH
maybe deadcatz Serris Inc 1	Posted - 2015.10.30 00:09:00 - [24] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Good God. Do you know what the Mach measurement is based on? See how its in bold? Its called emphasis. Pointing out the obvious. Why so bent? I STILL find it stupid that a commando can punch for more damage than a friggen railgun. (Gò«=^° -ë °^=)Gò«Gö¦GöüGöüGö¦ ( Gò»=^°Gûí°^=)Gò» Gö+GöüGöüGö+ Gù»n+Éo( =-ë=)y~~..nyaa Ha! You can't kill me,I'm already dead!
Arkena Wyrnspire Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 28	Posted - 2015.10.30 00:12:00 - [25] - Quote Cloak Dog wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Good God. Do you know what the Mach measurement is based on? Well I'M pretty sure mach 10 is probably if not obviously faster than the speed of sound... The entire Mach system is based on the speed of sound. Mach 1 = the speed of sound. The system even changes as environmental conditions and the speed of sound does. Mach 10 is 10 times the speed of sound, exactly. For that matter 2,500 m/s is not Mach 10 as most people would understand it. Sea-level standard atmospheric conditions put Mach 1 at 340.3 m/s - ergo, Mach 10 is 3403 m/s. 3403 =/= 2500. It's potentially true in odd conditions that Mach 10 would equal 2500 m/s but those would be indeed be odd conditions and DUST is based on Earth standard conditions anyway. Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
Arkena Wyrnspire Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 28	Posted - 2015.10.30 00:16:00 - [26] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Good God. Do you know what the Mach measurement is based on? See how its in bold? Its called emphasis. Pointing out the obvious. Your poor English obfuscated that. Quote: I STILL find it stupid that a commando can punch for more damage than a friggen railgun. It's a game. Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
Arkena Wyrnspire Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 28	Posted - 2015.10.30 00:17:00 - [27] - Quote Cloak Dog wrote: - How much mass would each 'beehive' sniper round have? Better yet how much would each round way in kilograms, that would be easier. I want to do some boredom math. I don't think we can get a decent or easy answer for this but I'm going to have a look at it anyway. At a guess it'd have very low mass, though. Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
maybe deadcatz Serris Inc 1	Posted - 2015.10.30 00:23:00 - [28] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Good God. Do you know what the Mach measurement is based on? See how its in bold? Its called emphasis. Pointing out the obvious. Your poor English obfuscated that. Quote: I STILL find it stupid that a commando can punch for more damage than a friggen railgun. It's a game. Read the title. Even the title is misspelled. The fact that you're getting bent over spelling and grammer is starting to killing the humor of the thread. Now if you'll excuse me I'm gonna go stack myos on a commando and punch for 1230 something HP. Because apparently snipers only do around 200 something damage. My fist 1200+ damage,personal handheld rail gun with 2500m/s projectiles,only 200 damage. The power of dust COMPELS YOU(smashes redberry in face) (Gò«=^° -ë °^=)Gò«Gö¦GöüGöüGö¦ ( Gò»=^°Gûí°^=)Gò» Gö+GöüGöüGö+ Gù»n+Éo( =-ë=)y~~..nyaa Ha! You can't kill me,I'm already dead!
Kail Mako Capital Acquisitions LLC 179	Posted - 2015.10.30 01:14:00 - [29] - Quote Hylian11 wrote: Commando snipers...ugh...disgusting. I am an OG Scout Sniper, the true suit of the sniper, the scout, not commando. I went up against the likes of Gem and Zan, i was taught by Atiim and Gem. And I am saddened by how snipers are now. I can't even use em because they are just so bad. We need a buff. We need it now. Am I the only person who snipes in a logi suit? Oh, and I want my 600m back! The longest kill I've ever made? 599m. Heh, poor sod never saw it coming. Another point of interest. Until an officer variant of Kaalakiota Snipers come out, Proto > Officer/Experimental. Officially recognized for advancing the science of getting bent.
Kail Mako Capital Acquisitions LLC 179	Posted - 2015.10.30 01:18:00 - [30] - Quote Cloak Dog wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Yet they only do like 200 damage and can be fire from a rifle? Them projectile must be like candy corn or popcorn kernels. Its either cheap mass produced projectiles or somehow drop suit armour and sheilds can resist 2500m/s personal railgun projectiles but somehow a commando can punch you for like 230 damage(1200hp with myos) lol science. Mach 1 is the speed of sound idiot, and its around 350 m/s, or ~800 mph. 2500 m/s = Mach 7, which is 7 times the speed of sound. Do you even math? Since thats true there really isn't any point in me trying to find the actual speed of each shot. Either math straight CCP, or give sniper rifles extreme recoil buffs. I think it needs more than extreme recoil buffs. If something exceed the speed of sound it causes a sonic boom. The force of that alone should kill you. Officially recognized for advancing the science of getting bent.



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