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Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 708	Posted - 2015.10.29 17:02:00 - [1] - Quote The description of the sniper rifle says each round has a downrange velocity of 2,500m/s? Thats like really fast, that would cover several maps in under a second. I snipe obviously, and not every shot is instantaneous damage. So that speed is WRONG. If I'm 300 meters away, that redberry should be hit before a second. That is true, but its not .12th of a second EXACTLY. I'm not going to get angry at CCP for not making their weapon descriptions 100% accurate to the weapon itself. So, folks at CCP or fellow nerds on the forums, please answer these 3 questions: - How much mass would each 'beehive' sniper round have? Better yet how much would each round way in kilograms, that would be easier. - Is there a range difference for the Charge variant and the Officer variants comparable to the difference of the Tactical and Regular versions? (I've learned that its really easy to hunt Tactical Snipers with Regular Snipers because of that range difference) - Is the headshot bonus 3x damage? [I can guess its at least three times as much because with a regular unmodified sniper rifle, it takes about 3 body shots to kill a Min or Cal starter fit, 4 for Gal and Amarr. Getting one head shot will kill a Min or Cal starter fit, but will almost kill a Gal or Amarr. I assume thats because they have more armor, cause shooting them in the head leaves them with only a sliver of health. Dunt know tho] I want to do some boredom math. I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 708	Posted - 2015.10.29 17:17:00 - [2] - Quote Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack wrote: it shows 280% when head shot but watever.....calmando with 2complex dmg mod, sniper proficiency 4 will kill anybody if headshot... Why didn't I just look at the efficiency...It took me months to figure that out on my own I felt smart... Well anyway, I only have prof 1, but 3 enhanced dmg mods and a krins mod. With a charge snipper riffle. I did the math, a needle is pointless after a bullet in one ear and out the other. Hue. Ironic pun. I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 708	Posted - 2015.10.29 17:38:00 - [3] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Idk. What I do know is that snipers don't have the range they should, there is no prone position, they defiantly don't do the damage they should. Don't you think a futuristic sniper should take out a pro suit assault suit in like 2 shots? 3 for heavies? 1 for lights Unfortunately if it were like that, they would be op. Er well, if its a proto vs proto situation, you could kill a proto assault in one or two shots if your good. I've played my fair share of military games. I'm pretty sure snipers are supposed to eliminate a target swiftly and silently, meaning every shot taken is a kill. Or at least..thats what a good sniper is. No one is perfect, it can take multiple shots to kill a scout sometimes actually. But a GOOD sniper, like realistically good, gets a kill for each trigger pull. :D I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 708	Posted - 2015.10.29 17:39:00 - [4] - Quote Hylian11 wrote: Commando snipers...ugh...disgusting. I am an OG Scout Sniper, the true suit of the sniper, the scout, not commando. I went up against the likes of Gem and Zan, i was taught by Atiim and Gem. And I am saddened by how snipers are now. I can't even use em because they are just so bad. We need a buff. We need it now. We don't need buffs, we just need sniper class suits. Like a light frame subclass. I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 709	Posted - 2015.10.29 18:29:00 - [5] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack wrote: sry..... thales is the only weapon i call 'sniper'.... Funny,I like to call em "excess war point made into a laser strike on to the spot where we just scanned some super armour tanked suit with a 'sniper'" Or just campers.we call em useless squatting campers. Lol, bruh do you even squat I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 709	Posted - 2015.10.29 18:52:00 - [6] - Quote Hylian11 wrote: Cloak Dog wrote: Hylian11 wrote: Commando snipers...ugh...disgusting. I am an OG Scout Sniper, the true suit of the sniper, the scout, not commando. I went up against the likes of Gem and Zan, i was taught by Atiim and Gem. And I am saddened by how snipers are now. I can't even use em because they are just so bad. We need a buff. We need it now. We don't need buffs, we just need sniper class suits. Like a light frame subclass. I would actually like that. And we do need a buff, a range buff, and a velocity buff where the bolt doesn't dissipate into thin air. What kind of non-plasma bullet dissipates man? Let us lie down, my squat game is strong, but i miss lying down to snipe. The ranges and bullet speeds are fine in my opinion. At some point its going to have to dissipate. Or at least slow down and eventually stop but... Sniper subclass fits tho...mmmm...I kind of want to...maybe...make stats for something like that...hmm.... I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 709	Posted - 2015.10.29 18:54:00 - [7] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Yet they only do like 200 damage and can be fire from a rifle? Them projectile must be like candy corn or popcorn kernels. Its either cheap mass produced projectiles or somehow drop suit armour and sheilds can resist 2500m/s personal railgun projectiles but somehow a commando can punch you for like 230 damage(1200hp with myos) lol science. Thats messed up. O-O I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 709	Posted - 2015.10.29 23:17:00 - [8] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Yet they only do like 200 damage and can be fire from a rifle? Them projectile must be like candy corn or popcorn kernels. Its either cheap mass produced projectiles or somehow drop suit armour and sheilds can resist 2500m/s personal railgun projectiles but somehow a commando can punch you for like 230 damage(1200hp with myos) lol science. Mach 1 is the speed of sound idiot, and its around 350 m/s, or ~800 mph. 2500 m/s = Mach 7, which is 7 times the speed of sound. Do you even math? Since thats true there really isn't any point in me trying to find the actual speed of each shot. Either math straight CCP, or give sniper rifles extreme recoil buffs. I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 709	Posted - 2015.10.29 23:28:00 - [9] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Good God. Do you know what the Mach measurement is based on? Well I'M pretty sure mach 10 is probably if not obviously faster than the speed of sound... I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 709	Posted - 2015.10.29 23:39:00 - [10] - Quote Radiant Pancake3 wrote: Hit it harder. Kinkyness intended as always. Actually someone needs to pull the nail out, it was hammered in the wrong hole. EDIT: Wrong...nevermind I tried. I don't even know how to use a hammer anyway. I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH

Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 714	Posted - 2015.10.30 01:20:00 - [11] - Quote Kail Mako wrote: Cloak Dog wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Yet they only do like 200 damage and can be fire from a rifle? Them projectile must be like candy corn or popcorn kernels. Its either cheap mass produced projectiles or somehow drop suit armour and sheilds can resist 2500m/s personal railgun projectiles but somehow a commando can punch you for like 230 damage(1200hp with myos) lol science. Mach 1 is the speed of sound idiot, and its around 350 m/s, or ~800 mph. 2500 m/s = Mach 7, which is 7 times the speed of sound. Do you even math? Since thats true there really isn't any point in me trying to find the actual speed of each shot. Either math straight CCP, or give sniper rifles extreme recoil buffs. I think it needs more than extreme recoil buffs. If something exceeds the speed of sound it causes a sonic boom. The force of that alone should kill you. Doesn't matter in the end. These are DUST514 Physics, which are in all ways basically pseudoscience. Which is the best science. I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 723	Posted - 2015.10.30 03:24:00 - [12] - Quote Kail Mako wrote: Hylian11 wrote: Kail Mako wrote: Hylian11 wrote: Commando snipers...ugh...disgusting. I am an OG Scout Sniper, the true suit of the sniper, the scout, not commando. I went up against the likes of Gem and Zan, i was taught by Atiim and Gem. And I am saddened by how snipers are now. I can't even use em because they are just so bad. We need a buff. We need it now. Am I the only person who snipes in a logi suit? Oh, and I want my 600m back! The longest kill I've ever made? 599m. Heh, poor sod never saw it coming. Another point of interest. Until an officer variant of Kaalakiota Snipers come out, Proto > Officer/Experimental. I have been killed by your Logi Sniper, shocked the hell out of me, props. Really? Sorry about that, on the field if it's red it dies. I used to be a hell of a sniper, but now with a broken controller, and the average EHP of a suit exceeding 400 I can only make about 10 kills a match with one. I use the logi because I can carry lots of hives with it. Whenever I deploy hives after filling up my ammo I throw a bunch of grenades to use it up. Can't give my position away y'know. I use minmatar med frames...>~> I tend to be victim of sneaky scouts ironically. A sidearm is mandatory for me. I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 731	Posted - 2015.10.30 16:53:00 - [13] - Quote Cesar Geronimo wrote: Hylian11 wrote: Commando snipers...ugh...disgusting. I am an OG Scout Sniper, the true suit of the sniper, the scout, not commando. I went up against the likes of Gem and Zan, i was taught by Atiim and Gem. And I am saddened by how snipers are now. I can't even use em because they are just so bad. We need a buff. We need it now. I like sniping in a commando suit because if I'm in my spot and can't find any targets because the flow of battle morphed elsewhere, I can just get off my duff, switch to my AR or whatever and join the fray without needing to swap my suit first... So, your lazy? All caldari scum are lazy. I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH
Cloak Dog Horizons' Edge 733	Posted - 2015.10.30 20:22:00 - [14] - Quote Cesar Geronimo wrote: logan turnbull wrote: By the way speed of sound is 340 meters per second so a dust514 sniper rifle has the velocity of mach 7.35 at the end of the barrel of the rifle so for a si fi sniper rifle the range of 450 meters is pathetic. At that velocity, the round disintegrates at right around 450m Disintegrate. Aaah, that makes sense. Considering how fast its going. -_- I'm more bark then bite...sometimes... BRUH

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