I think it needs more than extreme recoil buffs. If something exceeds the speed of sound it causes a sonic boom. The force of that alone should kill you.

Commando snipers...ugh...disgusting.

I am an OG Scout Sniper, the true suit of the sniper, the scout, not commando. I went up against the likes of Gem and Zan, i was taught by Atiim and Gem.

And I am saddened by how snipers are now. I can't even use em because they are just so bad. We need a buff. We need it now.

Doesn't matter in the end.

These are DUST514 Physics, which are in all ways basically pseudoscience. Which is the best science.

Am I the only person who snipes in a logi suit?

Oh, and I want my 600m back! The longest kill I've ever made? 599m. Heh, poor sod never saw it coming.

Another point of interest. Until an officer variant of Kaalakiota Snipers come out, Proto > Officer/Experimental.

The description of the sniper rifle says each round has a downrange velocity of 2,500m/s? Thats like really fast, that would cover several maps in under a second. I snipe obviously, and not every shot is instantaneous damage. So that speed is WRONG. If I'm 300 meters away, that redberry should be hit before a second. That is true, but its not .12th of a second EXACTLY.

I'm not going to get angry at CCP for not making their weapon descriptions 100% accurate to the weapon itself.

So, folks at CCP or fellow nerds on the forums, please answer these 3 questions:

- How much mass would each 'beehive' sniper round have? Better yet how much would each round way in kilograms, that would be easier.

- Is there a range difference for the Charge variant and the Officer variants comparable to the difference of the Tactical and Regular versions? (I've learned that its really easy to hunt Tactical Snipers with Regular Snipers because of that range difference)

- Is the headshot bonus 3x damage?

[I can guess its at least three times as much because with a regular unmodified sniper rifle, it takes about 3 body shots to kill a Min or Cal starter fit, 4 for Gal and Amarr. Getting one head shot will kill a Min or Cal starter fit, but will almost kill a Gal or Amarr. I assume thats because they have more armor, cause shooting them in the head leaves them with only a sliver of health.

Dunt know tho]


I want to do some boredom math.

I have been killed by your Logi Sniper, shocked the hell out of me, props.

Really? Sorry about that, on the field if it's red it dies. I used to be a hell of a sniper, but now with a broken controller, and the average EHP of a suit exceeding 400 I can only make about 10 kills a match with one.

I use the logi because I can carry lots of hives with it. Whenever I deploy hives after filling up my ammo I throw a bunch of grenades to use it up. Can't give my position away y'know.

The description of the sniper rifle says each round has a downrange velocity of 2,500m/s? Thats like really fast, that would cover several maps in under a second. I snipe obviously, and not every shot is instantaneous damage. So that speed is WRONG. If I'm 300 meters away, that redberry should be hit before a second. That is true, but its not .12th of a second EXACTLY.

I'm not going to get angry at CCP for not making their weapon descriptions 100% accurate to the weapon itself.

Am I the only person who snipes in a logi suit?

Oh, and I want my 600m back! The longest kill I've ever made? 599m. Heh, poor sod never saw it coming.

Another point of interest. Until an officer variant of Kaalakiota Snipers come out, Proto > Officer/Experimental.

i used to snipe in gal and cal logi suits, but then they nerfed damage mods, and keep buffing everything else. farthest in Uprising for me was 600.12m. a lot of us are saddened by how snipers are. a lot of OG snipers spec'd out of the weapon a while back and went into other things. that's kinda why the few of us dedicated snipers (even if we don't play the game anymore) are the only reasonable voices left to fight for balance tweaks. other guys don't visit the forums or quit the game. definately could use buffs (base damage and range imo) but not without some map changes (redline distance).

The description of the sniper rifle says each round has a downrange velocity of 2,500m/s? Thats like really fast, that would cover several maps in under a second. I snipe obviously, and not every shot is instantaneous damage. So that speed is WRONG. If I'm 300 meters away, that redberry should be hit before a second. That is true, but its not .12th of a second EXACTLY.

I'm not going to get angry at CCP for not making their weapon descriptions 100% accurate to the weapon itself.

So, folks at CCP or fellow nerds on the forums, please answer these 3 questions:

- How much mass would each 'beehive' sniper round have? Better yet how much would each round way in kilograms, that would be easier.

- Is there a range difference for the Charge variant and the Officer variants comparable to the difference of the Tactical and Regular versions? (I've learned that its really easy to hunt Tactical Snipers with Regular Snipers because of that range difference)

- Is the headshot bonus 3x damage?

[I can guess its at least three times as much because with a regular unmodified sniper rifle, it takes about 3 body shots to kill a Min or Cal starter fit, 4 for Gal and Amarr. Getting one head shot will kill a Min or Cal starter fit, but will almost kill a Gal or Amarr. I assume thats because they have more armor, cause shooting them in the head leaves them with only a sliver of health.

Dunt know tho]

I want to do some boredom math.

Idk.

What I do know is that snipers don't have the range they should, there is no prone position, they defiantly don't do the damage they should. Don't you think a futuristic sniper should take out a pro suit assault suit in like 2 shots? 3 for heavies? 1 for lights

Unfortunately if it were like that, they would be op.

Commando snipers...ugh...disgusting.

I am an OG Scout Sniper, the true suit of the sniper, the scout, not commando. I went up against the likes of Gem and Zan, i was taught by Atiim and Gem.

And I am saddened by how snipers are now. I can't even use em because they are just so bad. We need a buff. We need it now.

We don't need buffs, we just need sniper class suits.

Like a light frame subclass.

sry..... thales is the only weapon i call 'sniper'....

On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Yet they only do like 200 damage and can be fire from a rifle? Them projectile must be like candy corn or popcorn kernels. Its either cheap mass produced projectiles or somehow drop suit armour and sheilds can resist 2500m/s personal railgun projectiles but somehow a commando can punch you for like 230 damage(1200hp with myos) lol science.

The ranges and bullet speeds are fine in my opinion. At some point its going to have to dissipate. Or at least slow down and eventually stop but...

Sniper subclass fits tho...mmmm...I kind of want to...maybe...make stats for something like that...hmm....

Doesn't matter in the end.

These are DUST514 Physics, which are in all ways basically pseudoscience. Which is the best science.

This just in:

- there are no guided missiles on tanks.
- ships warp through planets

- ships do not continue moving in the same direction after thrust is applied in a different direction.

- clone jumping does not utterly destroy your mind.

- clones "beam down" magically to planets through links and CRUs.

On a side note apparently 2500m/s projectiles exceed mach 10. Which might be slightly if not faster than the speed of sound. Yet they only do like 200 damage and can be fire from a rifle? Them projectile must be like candy corn or popcorn kernels. Its either cheap mass produced projectiles or somehow drop suit armour and sheilds can resist 2500m/s personal railgun projectiles but somehow a commando can punch you for like 230 damage(1200hp with myos) lol science.

sry..... Roden is the only weapon i call 'sniper'....

Commando snipers...ugh...disgusting.

I am an OG Scout Sniper, the true suit of the sniper, the scout, not commando. I went up against the likes of Gem and Zan, i was taught by Atiim and Gem.

And I am saddened by how snipers are now. I can't even use em because they are just so bad. We need a buff. We need it now.

I like sniping in a commando suit because if I'm in my spot and can't find any targets because the flow of battle morphed elsewhere, I can just get off my duff, switch to my AR or whatever and join the fray without needing to swap my suit first...

I don't call any of them "sniper" because they don't exhibit the range of a SR. That's including the Thales.

By the way speed of sound is 340 meters per second so a dust514 sniper rifle has the velocity of mach 7.35 at the end of the barrel of the rifle so for a si fi sniper rifle the range of 450 meters is pathetic.

At that velocity, the round disintegrates at right around 450m

I've made all of these arguments myself. The way the sniper rifle (snipper riffle) is implemented in this game is a joke.

At that velocity, the round disintegrates at right around 450m