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Nothing Certain Algintal Core Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.10.27 06:27:00 - [1] - Quote All the CPM candidates said that the NPE was a big concern to them and they would work to fix it, The biggest, and worsening, problems on Dust are proto/officer stomping squads and people leaving matches, yet this event does nothing but encourage both behaviors. A new player has almost no chance of completing the event and will only face greater frustration than usual. The prize is a respec. If you are capable of getting 514 kills in a week, guess what?, you don't need a respec. The guys who need a respec are the ones who can't complete the missions because there suits are too weak. What the hell were you thinking? I understand CCP's reasoning. Use up lots of officer gear, make it frustrating so people will buy Aurum stuff, but the CPM is supposed to be looking out for the players, not screwing them over. Well, then again, it is pretty well documented that the CPM looks out for their protostomping buddies every time, I guess my question is rhetorical. Because, that's why.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 11	Posted - 2015.10.27 06:36:00 - [2] - Quote Huh. I don't even know where to begin, so I won't. Except to say... Where the hell did you get the idea that we get to dictate what CCP does, again? Last I checked, "Telling Rattati what he can and cannot do" wasn't on the list of things we're allowed to do. But given the general tone of your post, I don't particularly feel the need to justify myself further. Have fun. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 66	Posted - 2015.10.27 06:36:00 - [3] - Quote actually... i never proto stomp..... i have only 70mil sp, n i really need that resetting, i got 514 kills in two days...... all about teamwork n skill lol tough but possible looking for nomad vx1~ pm me
Shaun Iwairo Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 381	Posted - 2015.10.27 06:38:00 - [4] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Huh. I don't even know where to begin, so I won't. Except to say... Where the hell did you get the idea that we get to dictate what CCP does, again? Last I checked, "Telling Rattati what he can and cannot do" wasn't on the list of things we're allowed to do. But given the general tone of your post, I don't particularly feel the need to justify myself further. Have fun. This is a fair point. Don't think I've seen even one CPM express interest in improving the NPE, so it's not really fair to hold them to something they don't consider important. Something is killing new player retention.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 11	Posted - 2015.10.27 07:08:00 - [5] - Quote Shaun Iwairo wrote: This is a fair point. Don't think I've seen even one CPM express interest in improving the NPE, so it's not really fair to hold them to something they don't consider important. If you need me I'll be over here laughing. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 14	Posted - 2015.10.27 15:28:00 - [6] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Huh. I don't even know where to begin, so I won't. Except to say... Where the hell did you get the idea that we get to dictate what CCP does, again? Last I checked, "Telling Rattati what he can and cannot do" wasn't on the list of things we're allowed to do. But given the general tone of your post, I don't particularly feel the need to justify myself further. Have fun. But Aeon yelled at me the last time I said the CPM have no power over CCP! Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_; Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 12	Posted - 2015.10.27 15:34:00 - [7] - Quote CPM doesn't have "power over CCP". They can give feedback and that can sometimes change CCP's mind. I guess you could say they have a limited influence over CCP. But remember that CCP can opt to completely ignore CPM feedback and do what they want. The CPM might have had lukewarm reactions to this event and CCP said, "**** it, this event is easy to code and it's in time for Halloween so we're doing it." "I get to fist tanks in butt" - Jadek Menaheim
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.10.27 15:41:00 - [8] - Quote Let us hope they were sneakily gathering data to tone down the GalAssault Games improved in so much as, more players pushed for kills, but if CCP look at the data from battle results surely than can also see how horrifically balanced a lot of the battles are and that something needs to be done about it. SOONtm
xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx Eternal Beings RUST415 849	Posted - 2015.10.27 15:44:00 - [9] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: All the CPM candidates said that the NPE was a big concern to them and they would work to fix it, The biggest, and worsening, problems on Dust are proto/officer stomping squads and people leaving matches, yet this event does nothing but encourage both behaviors. A new player has almost no chance of completing the event and will only face greater frustration than usual. The prize is a respec. If you are capable of getting 514 kills in a week, guess what?, you don't need a respec. The guys who need a respec are the ones who can't complete the missions because there suits are too weak. What the hell were you thinking? I understand CCP's reasoning. Use up lots of officer gear, make it frustrating so people will buy Aurum stuff, but the CPM is supposed to be looking out for the players, not screwing them over. Well, then again, it is pretty well documented that the CPM looks out for their protostomping buddies every time, I guess my question is rhetorical. Stop Whining and play! LOGi GOD // Master of Healers // *Director of Eternal Beings* // *GF-FA-NF Alumni Directorate*
Nothing Certain Algintal Core Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 05:26:00 - [10] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Huh. I don't even know where to begin, so I won't. Except to say... Where the hell did you get the idea that we get to dictate what CCP does, again? Last I checked, "Telling Rattati what he can and cannot do" wasn't on the list of things we're allowed to do. But given the general tone of your post, I don't particularly feel the need to justify myself further. Have fun. That seems to be your response to all criticism, "I don't like your tone so screw you". Allow may have been a poor word choice, so I'll ask instead if you opposed this event and voiced your opposition? Because, that's why.

Nothing Certain Algintal Core Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 05:28:00 - [11] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: CPM doesn't have "power over CCP". They can give feedback and that can sometimes change CCP's mind. I guess you could say they have a limited influence over CCP. But remember that CCP can opt to completely ignore CPM feedback and do what they want. The CPM might have had lukewarm reactions to this event and CCP said, "**** it, this event is easy to code and it's in time for Halloween so we're doing it." Have you seen anything to suggest that the CPM voiced any opposition to this event or other events that encourage stomping? I haven't. Because, that's why.
Ahkhomi Cypher Opus Arcana 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 05:33:00 - [12] - Quote Somehow, it's probably not Darth's fault. Somehow, I blame Zaria. Tyrant King, Opus Arcana
D4GG3R Opus Arcana 2	Posted - 2015.10.29 05:38:00 - [13] - Quote Ahkhomi Cypher wrote: Somehow, it's probably not Darth's fault. Somehow, I blame Zaria. Zaria killed seraphim "Dagger is like a mage, damage him enough and he runs." -Nega Matix I watch anime for the boobs
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 11	Posted - 2015.10.29 05:46:00 - [14] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Huh. I don't even know where to begin, so I won't. Except to say... Where the hell did you get the idea that we get to dictate what CCP does, again? Last I checked, "Telling Rattati what he can and cannot do" wasn't on the list of things we're allowed to do. But given the general tone of your post, I don't particularly feel the need to justify myself further. Have fun. That seems to be your response to all criticism, "I don't like your tone so screw you". Allow may have been a poor word choice, so I'll ask instead if you opposed this event and voiced your opposition? Why should I have voiced an objection to the event? It's an event. Everyone puts on their best to smash through them with a quickness to guarantee they reap the rewards. Doesn't matter what kind of event you put in, people are going to rock their top game 100%. But I feel that getting mad at the CPM because you don't like the event is more than a little petulant. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Demandred Moores Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 221	Posted - 2015.10.29 07:00:00 - [15] - Quote Be happy you had a chance to get anything for free. Old devs would go bankrupt first. riseofancientFA.gs
lillpropun Rautaleijona 37	Posted - 2015.10.29 07:32:00 - [16] - Quote xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx wrote: Nothing Certain wrote: The biggest, and worsening, problems on Dust are proto/officer stomping squads and people leaving matches, yet this event does nothing but encourage both behaviors. A new player has almost no chance of completing the event and will only face greater frustration than usual. The prize is a respec. If you are capable of getting 514 kills in a week, guess what?, you don't need a respec. The guys who need a respec are the ones who can't complete the missions because there suits are too weak. What the hell were you thinking? Stop Whining and play! well, it-¦s not that easy... as a quite new player to this game, I can only say that this event wasn-¦t ment for noobs like me. I play because of fun and do not care about k/d ratio, but last week haven-¦t been that fun playing. I-¦ve played like 20 matches a day to get that skin not the 514 kills. But where-¦s the fun in facing such great players that only need one or maybe two shot to kill me? (I use apex suits so I won-¦t lose isk) It can be frustrating to check match raport just to se k/d ratio 0.09 Another thing about the event is that like half the blue and red team are snipers, not much help from those guys when trying to win matches. But what the heck, I managed to get the skin and also -+ of 514 kills in a week! (that is good for players like me) Luckily this event is over soon, so dust players become more human again and play for fun. (putting those super high tech expensive proto suits away in the closet again) Nice to have events, more players online and that is important for this game! Last week I played a special match 13 blue vs 0 red....not easy to score wp in that match (actually it was 13 vs 1, but that bad ass named player dropped out immediately when started) You miss 100% of the shots you donGÇÖt take.
postapo wastelander Corrosive Synergy RUST415 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 07:46:00 - [17] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: All the CPM candidates said that the NPE was a big concern to them and they would work to fix it, The biggest, and worsening, problems on Dust are proto/officer stomping squads and people leaving matches, yet this event does nothing but encourage both behaviors. A new player has almost no chance of completing the event and will only face greater frustration than usual. The prize is a respec. If you are capable of getting 514 kills in a week, guess what?, you don't need a respec. The guys who need a respec are the ones who can't complete the missions because there suits are too weak. What the hell were you thinking? I understand CCP's reasoning. Use up lots of officer gear, make it frustrating so people will buy Aurum stuff, but the CPM is supposed to be looking out for the players, not screwing them over. Well, then again, it is pretty well documented that the CPM looks out for their protostomping buddies every time, I guess my question is rhetorical. What limits you from making protosquad too? I know people like you. First there is issue with protos. After that with squads. What will be next time too OP Flaylock?? XD *"Completion by direct action"* `Forge syndicalist of Corrosive Synergy`
Aeon Amadi 13	Posted - 2015.10.29 07:54:00 - [18] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: CPM doesn't have "power over CCP". They can give feedback and that can sometimes change CCP's mind. I guess you could say they have a limited influence over CCP. But remember that CCP can opt to completely ignore CPM feedback and do what they want. The CPM might have had lukewarm reactions to this event and CCP said, "**** it, this event is easy to code and it's in time for Halloween so we're doing it." Have you seen anything to suggest that the CPM voiced any opposition to this event or other events that encourage stomping? I haven't. Heh... Jeez... I mean, we -just- finished hitting the warbarge passive officer gear generation. I dunno about you but I consider that a major success considering the impact it's had on the game since conception. There will never be a time, this CPM or the next, where we will address all the problems in one fell swoop (at least, not without outright breaking the game). So, my question is what would you like us to do, exactly..? Put yourself in our shoes and tell us what you would have said to CCP. How would you oppose the stomping in the event? Negative Introspection - Aeon's CPM Blog Skype: nomistrav
postapo wastelander Corrosive Synergy RUST415 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 08:09:00 - [19] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Nothing Certain wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: CPM doesn't have "power over CCP". They can give feedback and that can sometimes change CCP's mind. I guess you could say they have a limited influence over CCP. But remember that CCP can opt to completely ignore CPM feedback and do what they want. The CPM might have had lukewarm reactions to this event and CCP said, "** it, this event is easy to code and it's in time for Halloween so we're doing it." Have you seen anything to suggest that the CPM voiced any opposition to this event or other events that encourage stomping? I haven't. Heh... Jeez... I mean, we -just- finished hitting the warbarge passive officer gear generation. I dunno about you but I consider that a major success considering the impact it's had on the game since conception. There will never be a time, this CPM or the next, where we will address all the problems in one fell swoop (at least, not without outright breaking the game). So, my question is what would you like us to do, exactly..? Put yourself in our shoes and tell us what you would have said to CCP. How would you oppose the stomping in the event? And silence XD Event is fine boyko do no listen to him. I mostly messing on field, but i know if i will go for kill i will manage that 70+ per day for sure. Proto is not issue, groups same story. Issue is people without backbone and trying to put their failure on anothers one back. "Completion by direct action"** `Forge syndicalist of Corrosive Synergy`
IAmDuncanIdaho II Nos Nothi 5	Posted - 2015.10.29 08:19:00 - [20] - Quote lolCPM community relations at its finest. When I'm not deleting DUST, I farm

Baal Omniscient Qualified Scrub 2	Posted - 2015.10.29 08:41:00 - [21] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Nothing Certain wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: CPM doesn't have "power over CCP". They can give feedback and that can sometimes change CCP's mind. I guess you could say they have a limited influence over CCP. But remember that CCP can opt to completely ignore CPM feedback and do what they want. The CPM might have had lukewarm reactions to this event and CCP said, "** it, this event is easy to code and it's in time for Halloween so we're doing it." Have you seen anything to suggest that the CPM voiced any opposition to this event or other events that encourage stomping? I haven't. Heh... Jeez... I mean, we -just- finished hitting the warbarge passive officer gear generation. I dunno about you but I consider that a major success considering the impact it's had on the game since conception. There will never be a time, this CPM or the next, where we will address all the problems in one fell swoop (at least, not without outright breaking the game). So, my question is what would you like us to do, exactly..? Put yourself in our shoes and tell us what you would have said to CCP. How would you oppose the stomping in the event? I'm not joining the CPM hate squad here, but some suggestions that could have been made to Ratatti: Rather than 21 matches won - 40 matches joined and completed (to discourage players leaving matches) Rather than 514 kills - 514 Kills and Assists (to help those who have to sit through stomps match after match unable to get the last hits on enemies and reward newer players who help to take down targets) Again, not joining the mob's side, but if you had suggested something a little more friendly towards low SP players and non-stompers then you would be here saying that you tried rather than defending the fact that you didn't try by showing what you did to help the overall game. The warbarge change will eventually be a huge help once all of the officer gear becomes more rare again, but neither I nor most of the people I've seen post about it noticed any significant drop in Officer gear usage during this event due to those changes and this event is the only means many of the people who play this game will be able to get a respec due to not having the finances to buy one. In the future maybe it might be a good idea to look at how an event might be percieved and voice an opinion on it, that's all I'm saying. Trying to be 100% constructive here and as non-trolly as I can. I know you guys have very busy lives outside of the game as well (you especially), but as a community representitive it might be good to try to think ahead about events as well as the in game changes. añ¼añ+añ¦-añ¬añ+añƒañ¦-añÿañ¿añ+añ+añ¦-añªañ+añùañ¿aÑìaññ "Baal comes...and destruction follows him like a storm."** añ¿añ+añ¦añ¿aÑìaññañ¦añ+añ¿aÑìañºañòañ+añ¦añ+aññ-añªañ+añùañ¿aÑìaññ-añ¦añ¦añÖaÑìañù
Aeon Amadi 13	Posted - 2015.10.29 09:16:00 - [22] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Nothing Certain wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: CPM doesn't have "power over CCP". They can give feedback and that can sometimes change CCP's mind. I guess you could say they have a limited influence over CCP. But remember that CCP can opt to completely ignore CPM feedback and do what they want. The CPM might have had lukewarm reactions to this event and CCP said, "**** it, this event is easy to code and it's in time for Halloween so we're doing it." Have you seen anything to suggest that the CPM voiced any opposition to this event or other events that encourage stomping? I haven't. Heh... Jeez... I mean, we -just- finished hitting the warbarge passive officer gear generation. I dunno about you but I consider that a major success considering the impact it's had on the game since conception. There will never be a time, this CPM or the next, where we will address all the problems in one fell swoop (at least, not without outright breaking the game). So, my question is what would you like us to do, exactly..? Put yourself in our shoes and tell us what you would have said to CCP. How would you oppose the stomping in the event? I'm not joining the CPM hate squad here, but some suggestions that could have been made to Ratatti: Rather than 21 matches won - 40 matches joined and completed (to discourage players leaving matches) Rather than 514 kills - 514 Kills and Assists (to help those who have to sit through stomps match after match unable to get the last hits on enemies and reward newer players who help to take down targets) Again, not joining the mob's side, but if you had suggested something a little more friendly towards low SP players and non-stompers then you would be here saying that you tried rather than defending the fact that you didn't try by showing what you did to help the overall game. The warbarge change will eventually be a huge help once all of the officer gear becomes more rare again, but neither I nor most of the people I've seen post about it noticed any significant drop in Officer gear usage during this event due to those changes and this event is the only means many of the people who play this game will be able to get a respec due to not having the finances to buy one. In the future maybe it might be a good idea to look at how an event might be percieved and voice an opinion on it, that's all I'm saying. Trying to be 100% constructive here and as non-trolly as I can. I know you guys have very busy lives outside of the game as well (you especially), but as a community representitive it might be good to try to think ahead about events as well as the in game changes. Yeah, that's a fair assessment. We'll see what we can do with the next event. Thanks for the feedback. Negative Introspection - Aeon's CPM Blog Skype: nomistrav
Baal Omniscient Qualified Scrub 2	Posted - 2015.10.29 09:24:00 - [23] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Nothing Certain wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: CPM doesn't have "power over CCP". They can give feedback and that can sometimes change CCP's mind. I guess you could say they have a limited influence over CCP. But remember that CCP can opt to completely ignore CPM feedback and do what they want. The CPM might have had lukewarm reactions to this event and CCP said, "** it, this event is easy to code and it's in time for Halloween so we're doing it." Have you seen anything to suggest that the CPM voiced any opposition to this event or other events that encourage stomping? I haven't. Heh... Jeez... I mean, we -just- finished hitting the warbarge passive officer gear generation. I dunno about you but I consider that a major success considering the impact it's had on the game since conception. There will never be a time, this CPM or the next, where we will address all the problems in one fell swoop (at least, not without outright breaking the game). So, my question is what would you like us to do, exactly..? Put yourself in our shoes and tell us what you would have said to CCP. How would you oppose the stomping in the event? I'm not joining the CPM hate squad here, but some suggestions that could have been made to Ratatti: Rather than 21 matches won - 40 matches joined and completed (to discourage players leaving matches) Rather than 514 kills - 514 Kills and Assists (to help those who have to sit through stomps match after match unable to get the last hits on enemies and reward newer players who help to take down targets) Again, not joining the mob's side, but if you had suggested something a little more friendly towards low SP players and non-stompers then you would be here saying that you tried rather than defending the fact that you didn't try by showing what you did to help the overall game. The warbarge change will eventually be a huge help once all of the officer gear becomes more rare again, but neither I nor most of the people I've seen post about it noticed any significant drop in Officer gear usage during this event due to those changes and this event is the only means many of the people who play this game will be able to get a respec due to not having the finances to buy one. In the future maybe it might be a good idea to look at how an event might be percieved and voice an opinion on it, that's all I'm saying. Trying to be 100% constructive here and as non-trolly as I can. I know you guys have very busy lives outside of the game as well (you especially), but as a community representitive it might be good to try to think ahead about events as well as the in game changes. Yeah, that's a fair assessment. We'll see what we can do with the next event. Thanks for the feedback. Absolutely, and thank you for doing what you can to look out for us. o7 añ¼añ+añ¦-añ¬añ+añƒañ¦-añÿañ¿añ+añ+añ¦-añªañ+añùañ¿aÑìaññ "Baal comes...and destruction follows him like a storm."** añ¿añ+añ¦añ¿aÑìaññañ¦añ+añ¿aÑìañºañòañ+añ¦añ+aññ-añªañ+añùañ¿aÑìaññ-añ¦añ¦añÖaÑìañù
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 11	Posted - 2015.10.29 09:40:00 - [24] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: I'm not joining the CPM hate squad here, but some suggestions that could have been made to Ratatti: Rather than 21 matches won - 40 matches joined and completed (to discourage players leaving matches) Rather than 514 kills - 514 Kills and Assists (to help those who have to sit through stomps match after match unable to get the last hits on enemies and reward newer players who help to take down targets) Again, not joining the mob's side, but if you had suggested something a little more friendly towards low SP players and non-stompers then you would be here saying that you tried rather than defending the fact that you didn't try by showing what you did to help the overall game. The warbarge change will eventually be a huge help once all of the officer gear becomes more rare again, but neither I nor most of the people I've seen post about it noticed any significant drop in Officer gear usage during this event due to those changes and this event is the only means many of the people who play this game will be able to get a respec due to not having the finances to buy one. In the future maybe it might be a good idea to look at how an event might be percieved and voice an opinion on it, that's all I'm saying. Trying to be 100% constructive here and as non-trolly as I can. I know you guys have very busy lives outside of the game as well (you especially), but as a community representitive it might be good to try to think ahead about events as well as the in game changes. See, this is something that can be taken to CCP as feedback to improve the events in the future. Perfect example. And good ideas Baal, I'm actually taking notes here. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Baal Omniscient Qualified Scrub 2	Posted - 2015.10.29 09:52:00 - [25] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: I'm not joining the CPM hate squad here, but some suggestions that could have been made to Ratatti: Rather than 21 matches won - 40 matches joined and completed (to discourage players leaving matches) Rather than 514 kills - 514 Kills and Assists (to help those who have to sit through stomps match after match unable to get the last hits on enemies and reward newer players who help to take down targets) Again, not joining the mob's side, but if you had suggested something a little more friendly towards low SP players and non-stompers then you would be here saying that you tried rather than defending the fact that you didn't try by showing what you did to help the overall game. The warbarge change will eventually be a huge help once all of the officer gear becomes more rare again, but neither I nor most of the people I've seen post about it noticed any significant drop in Officer gear usage during this event due to those changes and this event is the only means many of the people who play this game will be able to get a respec due to not having the finances to buy one. In the future maybe it might be a good idea to look at how an event might be percieved and voice an opinion on it, that's all I'm saying. Trying to be 100% constructive here and as non-trolly as I can. I know you guys have very busy lives outside of the game as well (you especially), but as a community representitive it might be good to try to think ahead about events as well as the in game changes. See, this is something that can be taken to CCP as feedback to improve the events in the future. Perfect example. And good ideas Baal, I'm actually taking notes here. I have my moments I suppose. I've been working on Diablo 3 and Darksiders 2 since finishing the event so my Dust rage has subsided, I'm fairly certain that's a big part of it. añ¼añ+añ¦-añ¬añ+añƒañ¦-añÿañ¿añ+añ+añ¦-añªañ+añùañ¿aÑìaññ *"Baal comes...and destruction follows him like a storm."* añ¿añ+añ¦añ¿aÑìaññañ¦añ+añ¿aÑìañºañòañ+añ¦añ+aññ-añªañ+añùañ¿aÑìaññ-añ¦añ¦añÖaÑìañù
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 10:59:00 - [26] - Quote Don't forget the rewarding wins is good to prevent people afking matches and to encourage actual fighting. Including assists sounds good though.
Zaria Min Deir TeamPlayers 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 11:12:00 - [27] - Quote D4GG3R wrote: Ahkhomi Cypher wrote: Somehow, it's probably not Darth's fault. Somehow, I blame Zaria. Zaria killed seraphim zariamindeir on Twitter&Gmail
rpastry Dead Man's Game 325	Posted - 2015.10.29 11:40:00 - [28] - Quote I did it twice. It got me playing again. so it worked on that level :P noobs can buy a merc pack and use the 40k au for a respec. [Removed ASCII Art - CCP Logibro]
Cesar Geronimo DUST University Ivy League 132	Posted - 2015.10.29 12:42:00 - [29] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: The prize is a respec. If you are capable of getting 514 kills in a week, guess what?, you don't need a respec. . +1
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2015.10.29 12:53:00 - [30] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Nothing Certain wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: CPM doesn't have "power over CCP". They can give feedback and that can sometimes change CCP's mind. I guess you could say they have a limited influence over CCP. But remember that CCP can opt to completely ignore CPM feedback and do what they want. The CPM might have had lukewarm reactions to this event and CCP said, "** it, this event is easy to code and it's in time for Halloween so we're doing it." Have you seen anything to suggest that the CPM voiced any opposition to this event or other events that encourage stomping? I haven't. Heh... Jeez... I mean, we -just- finished hitting the warbarge passive officer gear generation. I dunno about you but I consider that a major success considering the impact it's had on the game since conception. There will never be a time, this CPM or the next, where we will address all the problems in one fell swoop (at least, not without outright breaking the game). So, my question is what would you like us to do, exactly..? Put yourself in our shoes and tell us what you would have said to CCP. How would you oppose the stomping in the event? I'm not joining the CPM hate squad here, but some suggestions that could have been made to Ratatti: Rather than 21 matches won - 40 matches joined and completed (to discourage players leaving matches) Rather than 514 kills - 514 Kills and Assists (to help those who have to sit through stomps match after match unable to get the last hits on enemies and reward newer players who help to take down targets) Again, not joining the mob's side, but if you had suggested something a little more friendly towards low SP players and non-stompers then you would be here saying that you tried rather than defending the fact that you didn't try by showing what you did to help the overall game. The warbarge change will eventually be a huge help once all of the officer gear becomes more rare again, but neither I nor most of the people I've seen post about it noticed any significant drop in Officer gear usage during this event due to those changes and this event is the only means many of the people who play this game will be able to get a respec due to not having the finances to buy one. In the future maybe it might be a good idea to look at how an event might be percieved and voice an opinion on it, that's all I'm saying. Trying to be 100% constructive here and as non-trolly as I can. I know you guys have very busy lives outside of the game as well (you especially), but as a community representitive it might be good to try to think ahead about events as well as the in game changes. Yeah, that's a fair assessment. We'll see what we can do with the next event. Thanks for the feedback. You see that ? That is the that happens when you provide detailed feedback and aren't a **. +1 to Baal for being useful. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector

Avallo Kantor 945	Posted - 2015.10.29 15:32:00 - [31] - Quote Trying to provide some more feedback, I don't think having high kill / win goals is necessarily a bad event goal, but it needs to be balanced out by other goals as well. Using the last event as an example there were several persistent missions that were of varying levels of difficulty. While the kill mission may have been too hard for many, the other goals were far more reasonable. Having a mix of missions that range in difficulty allow for more hard core players to push themselves for difficult goals, while still allowing less skilled players to reach goals and get rewards as well. One other suggestion is to set up an event where the bonus reward for completing X missions is replaced with an event mission that needs X event missions to get credit for. Then players can choose from a wider selection of missions to complete to work toward that goal. This way you can provide a mixture of mission objectives and ensure that a player does not need to complete all for the reward, only a subset that he chooses to pursue. "Mind Blown" - CCP Rattati
Darth-Carbonite GIO Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 3	Posted - 2015.10.29 15:44:00 - [32] - Quote Since none of the other CPM members have really answered the original question, I'll try to, while ignoring the hate thread this discussion has devolved into. We as Dust players have wanted to be more connected to the daily going ons of Eve and the larger New Eden universe, so when The Crimson Harvest was announced for Eve, the Dust community guys quickly scrambled to create a tie-in event for us. The 514 kills objective, while not ideal, certainly fits the Blood Raiders theme. We strongly advised a more inclusive type of event, but the timetable was against us if we wanted it to coincide with Eve. The original rewards, in my opinion, were a bit lackluster, but we pushed hard for a Respec to be included in addition to the skin. This wasn't popular with everyone, but we knew many players would jump at the opportunity to redistribute their skills. But you'd know all this already if you had actually payed attention to what the CPM has been saying, on the forums, the Biomassed podcast, and our various Skype channels. "Sex is OK!" -CCP Rouge our benevolent overlord "Why does everyone fellatiate Darth? Why?!" -Aeon Amadi
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet RUST415 551	Posted - 2015.10.29 15:48:00 - [33] - Quote Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack wrote: actually... i never proto stomp..... i have only 70mil sp, n i really need that resetting, i got 514 kills in two days...... all about teamwork n skill lol tough but possible Whoa! Congratulations on finishing the grind.
Nothing Certain Algintal Core Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 15:54:00 - [34] - Quote postapo wastelander wrote: Nothing Certain wrote: All the CPM candidates said that the NPE was a big concern to them and they would work to fix it, The biggest, and worsening, problems on Dust are proto/officer stomping squads and people leaving matches, yet this event does nothing but encourage both behaviors. A new player has almost no chance of completing the event and will only face greater frustration than usual. The prize is a respec. If you are capable of getting 514 kills in a week, guess what?, you don't need a respec. The guys who need a respec are the ones who can't complete the missions because there suits are too weak. What the hell were you thinking? I understand CCP's reasoning. Use up lots of officer gear, make it frustrating so people will buy Aurum stuff, but the CPM is supposed to be looking out for the players, not screwing them over. Well, then again, it is pretty well documented that the CPM looks out for their protostomping buddies every time, I guess my question is rhetorical. What limits you from making protosquad too? I know people like you. First there is issue with protos. After that with squads. What will be next time too OP Flaylock?? XD I don't have an issue with either proto or squads, I have an issue with protosquads being placed against new players running solo. I could run in a protosquad, I occassionally do, but that does nothing to solve the problem. It isn't players like me with 70 milion SP that have the problem, I don't need a solution, the game does. Because, that's why.
Krixus Flux Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 987	Posted - 2015.10.29 15:54:00 - [35] - Quote I guess the protostomping and NPE talks will never cease. I wish it would stop. The EVE universe is a "jump into the ocean, learn how to swim and avoid the sharks" type of game. Saying what's on people's minds
Nothing Certain Algintal Core Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 16:03:00 - [36] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Nothing Certain wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: CPM doesn't have "power over CCP". They can give feedback and that can sometimes change CCP's mind. I guess you could say they have a limited influence over CCP. But remember that CCP can opt to completely ignore CPM feedback and do what they want. The CPM might have had lukewarm reactions to this event and CCP said, "**** it, this event is easy to code and it's in time for Halloween so we're doing it." Have you seen anything to suggest that the CPM voiced any opposition to this event or other events that encourage stomping? I haven't. Heh... Jeez... I mean, we -just- finished hitting the warbarge passive officer gear generation. I dunno about you but I consider that a major success considering the impact it's had on the game since conception. There will never be a time, this CPM or the next, where we will address all the problems in one fell swoop (at least, not without outright breaking the game). So, my question is what would you like us to do, exactly..? Put yourself in our shoes and tell us what you would have said to CCP. How would you oppose the stomping in the event? You are right, I am frustrated because the same problem has been an issue as long as I've been playing this game, and before that, and continues to be a problem. I no longer expect a good solution to matchmaking because I don't think one can be implemented. The reduction in officer gear was a good start, I wasn't even aware of that when I posted originally. The standardization of slots was also a good step, but clearly these "kill the most" events make a bad situation worse, why not implement something that like rewards for killing protosutis while wearing militia gear and bonuses for officer suits, why not have logi events or AV/vehicle events or anything but "Protoup, Squadup and leave if the competition is hard" events. Sorry if my expectations of the CPM seem higher than reasonable, I know you have limited influence, but who else are we supposed to demand things from if not our representatives? Because, that's why.
postapo wastelander Corrosive Synergy RUST415 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 16:05:00 - [37] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: postapo wastelander wrote: Nothing Certain wrote: All the CPM candidates said that the NPE was a big concern to them and they would work to fix it, The biggest, and worsening, problems on Dust are proto/officer stomping squads and people leaving matches, yet this event does nothing but encourage both behaviors. A new player has almost no chance of completing the event and will only face greater frustration than usual. The prize is a respec. If you are capable of getting 514 kills in a week, guess what?, you don't need a respec. The guys who need a respec are the ones who can't complete the missions because there suits are too weak. What the hell were you thinking? I understand CCP's reasoning. Use up lots of officer gear, make it frustrating so people will buy Aurum stuff, but the CPM is supposed to be looking out for the players, not screwing them over. Well, then again, it is pretty well documented that the CPM looks out for their protostomping buddies every time, I guess my question is rhetorical. What limits you from making protosquad too? I know people like you. First there is issue with protos. After that with squads. What will be next time too OP Flaylock?? XD I don't have an issue with either proto or squads, I have an issue with protosquads being placed against new players running solo. I could run in a protosquad, I occassionally do, but that does nothing to solve the problem. It isn't players like me with 70 milion SP that have the problem, I don't need a solution, the game does. Nope you talking about newbies and loners. May i have question:"For what newbie want a respec.", that is first one and the second one is:"Why game need something against playersbase?" If you are running alone (like me sometimes) you have pretty big chance to achieve respec. Helvete i manage some kills in two or three days. If i will grind i will have respec and im not good at all. Honestly it looks like you hiding behind last "the groups are plague" trend just because you want price without much efort. *"Completion by direct action"* `Forge syndicalist of Corrosive Synergy`
zzZaXxx T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 826	Posted - 2015.10.29 16:11:00 - [38] - Quote There have been times in the past when a respec would just have furthered the imbalances in the game, but actually now is a good time for a lot of respecs. Suits and guns are pretty well balanced by now. GalAss and AR are fine. As much as they can own up close they still have sh*t range and that limits what you can do. SCR and ARR are fine now. There's no real FOTM so I highly doubt all the respecs will result in any imbalance. Should we great because everyone will now be running exactly what they want to run. I win
Nothing Certain Algintal Core Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 16:11:00 - [39] - Quote Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: Since none of the other CPM members have really answered the original question, I'll try to, while ignoring the hate thread this discussion has devolved into. We as Dust players have wanted to be more connected to the daily going ons of Eve and the larger New Eden universe, so when The Crimson Harvest was announced for Eve, the Dust community guys quickly scrambled to create a tie-in event for us. The 514 kills objective, while not ideal, certainly fits the Blood Raiders theme. We strongly advised a more inclusive type of event, but the timetable was against us if we wanted it to coincide with Eve. The original rewards, in my opinion, were a bit lackluster, but we pushed hard for a Respec to be included in addition to the skin. This wasn't popular with everyone, but we knew many players would jump at the opportunity to redistribute their skills. But you'd know all this already if you had actually payed attention to what the CPM has been saying, on the forums, the Biomassed podcast, and our various Skype channels. Thank you for the answer, I appreciate it. I read the forums everyday, but I think expecting us to Skype and watch podcasts may be expecting a bit too much time investment for the average, or even more than average invested, player to devote to the game outside of playing the game. I guess that my priorities are different than most of the members of the CPM, which is why I perceive them as acting in the interests of larger corporations, most experienced players and "protostompers". That doesn't make me right and you wrong. Thanks for your reply and for your efforts. Because, that's why.
Ahkhomi Cypher Opus Arcana 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 16:34:00 - [40] - Quote Told you it wasn't Darth's fault. Tyrant King, Opus Arcana

CLONE117 True Pros Forever 914	Posted - 2015.10.29 16:51:00 - [41] - Quote the next event should involve mlt gear only. if only we could pilot the mcc. id end the matches real quick.
postapo wastelander Corrosive Synergy RUST415 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 16:52:00 - [42] - Quote CLONE117 wrote: the next event should involve mlt gear only. It depends if good items everyone will jump in, if not it will be masacre XD But hey how i told many times before, we still did not have logi event (reping, fixing, hacking) :p *"Completion by direct action"* `Forge syndicalist of Corrosive Synergy`
Bradric Banewolf Titans of Phoenix Damage LLC 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 17:15:00 - [43] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Nothing Certain wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: CPM doesn't have "power over CCP". They can give feedback and that can sometimes change CCP's mind. I guess you could say they have a limited influence over CCP. But remember that CCP can opt to completely ignore CPM feedback and do what they want. The CPM might have had lukewarm reactions to this event and CCP said, "**** it, this event is easy to code and it's in time for Halloween so we're doing it." Have you seen anything to suggest that the CPM voiced any opposition to this event or other events that encourage stomping? I haven't. Heh... Jeez... I mean, we -just- finished hitting the warbarge passive officer gear generation. I dunno about you but I consider that a major success considering the impact it's had on the game since conception. There will never be a time, this CPM or the next, where we will address all the problems in one fell swoop (at least, not without outright breaking the game). So, my question is what would you like us to do, exactly..? Put yourself in our shoes and tell us what you would have said to CCP. How would you oppose the stomping in the event? While we understand, or at least I do, that you guys, the CPM2, have made every effort to make the game better. This issue we're currently dealing with is pretty bad?! I know you guys have taken on certain issues head on to improve performance where you can. Kirk literally makes vids talking about, and basically updating us on the things you guys are focusing on. This kind of feedback is great, and keeps players playing. To answer your question, I think we have to find some way to encourage new bros to get out of the redline and help the team win! There should be an overwhelming effort to win matches whether it be pubs, FW, or PC (without cheating) in every match. It sure as hell used to be! Sadly, I'm finding myself outgunned 9v12 in dom last night going 13/20/13, and receiving mail from a friend saying "you go hard bro", got the mail to prove it! The match started out 15v16 and in dom a 1 man number advantage isn't much. So why did they leave? Some just don't like some of the maps, and I get that, but shouldn't it be enough incentive per map and match to stay and win? Not sure whether the incentives should go up, or the maps need a change. I've suggested both in different threads. As far as the stomping in events go... for me getting 514 kills and 21 wins just happened without trying. I looked one day and bam there it was. shrugs I remember posting that I wouldn't actually attempt this event because I need neither of the items. For a new bro this event was a trip to Valhalla and back lol! While I would encourage them to except the challenge, I understand the struggle better than most. The question is, how do we encourage more teamwork and push because God knows this game once had it in spades! "Anybody order chaos?"
Piercing Serenity Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 17:53:00 - [44] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: -Snip- But you'd know all this already if you had actually payed attention to what the CPM has been saying, on the forums, the Biomassed podcast, and our various Skype channels. Thank you for the answer, I appreciate it. I read the forums everyday, but I think expecting us to Skype and watch podcasts may be expecting a bit too much time investment for the average, or even more than average invested, player to devote to the game outside of playing the game. -snip- I logged in to like this "For people who don't really do S**T, ya'll really doing the most" Lv. 1 Forum Warrior
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Four Horseman Tactical Agency 2	Posted - 2015.10.29 19:13:00 - [45] - Quote Krixus Flux wrote: I guess the protostomping and NPE talks will never cease. I wish it would stop. The EVE universe is a "jump into the ocean, learn how to swim and avoid the sharks" type of game. Yeah , that's why EVE just incorporated new changes and gained the attention of some in the Dust forums , in an attempt to help garner support for new players but this game can't even get matchmaking right because players like yourself just see nothing wrong with it while the numbers that people like to always bring up in any other instance , tells a different story and has said the same for the two years ... that I've been playing . Constantly going down but hey , let's not fix it because of the reasons that you stressed , you as well as others that just love the current set up and love pub stomping while PC is a desert and a laggy one at that . Lets just get rid of PC matches because it's useless anyway , pubs are treated the same and get far more attention anyway . Hell , lets go all out so we can all play eachother with our 3 ALT's per 3 accounts with 3 PS3's , that would make up for the NPE and CCP can keep sitting on their @$$es about matchmaking . Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
Immortal John Ripper 29	Posted - 2015.10.29 19:19:00 - [46] - Quote Zaria Min Deir wrote: D4GG3R wrote: Ahkhomi Cypher wrote: Somehow, it's probably not Darth's fault. Somehow, I blame Zaria. Zaria killed seraphim I blame you too. When Ratatti surpasses my like count, I'd like for my name to be changed to Captain Picard. Will you please be my #1?
JudgeIsABadPilot Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 56	Posted - 2015.10.29 19:41:00 - [47] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: All the CPM candidates said that the NPE was a big concern to them and they would work to fix it, The biggest, and worsening, problems on Dust are proto/officer stomping squads and people leaving matches, yet this event does nothing but encourage both behaviors. A new player has almost no chance of completing the event and will only face greater frustration than usual. The prize is a respec. If you are capable of getting 514 kills in a week, guess what?, you don't need a respec. The guys who need a respec are the ones who can't complete the missions because there suits are too weak. What the hell were you thinking? I understand CCP's reasoning. Use up lots of officer gear, make it frustrating so people will buy Aurum stuff, but the CPM is supposed to be looking out for the players, not screwing them over. Well, then again, it is pretty well documented that the CPM looks out for their protostomping buddies every time, I guess my question is rhetorical. Because the CPM is a bunch of yes-men and don't care about it.


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