Core locus grenade.

HMG as well.

I think the SCR is still probably the best rifle in the game, but I read that thread when you posted it and liked the analysis (though I am not in a position to verify). A good change we could make to the Scrambler would be to delay increased heat per shot and increased damage per shot until the charge is significantly built, so microfiring is not a spoiler in how the weapon works. Love to see this on the ion pistol as well. However as usual I dont get to tell CCP what to do, so **** it.

Regardless that change doesnt change the fact that for shield based dropsuits the scrambler easily does 800+ dps, which is enough to absolutely murder most dedicated shield fits in less than a second, and that does not include charge shots. Compare that to what you say is close to the second best weapon in the game, the rail rifle, which does about 500 dps to armor fully upgraded and has **** firing characteristics and **** mechanics to boot especially in CQC, compared to the Scrambler which works with pinpoint accuracy throughout its range and has a drawback that generally only comes into play after the target is dead.

Edit: add to that second paragraph that shields generally have less total HP, working against a significantly higher source of dps, and its just ******* absurd to think that the scrambler isnt imbalanced.

So why are there so many Amarr Assaults running around with rail rifles these days?

Give me a god damn weapon that I can obliterate Armor with in a split second with follow up shots. Yeah, y'all would be b*tchin too if 450 Armor was zapped away in less than 1 second with 1 shot.

locus grenade

sniper rifle

plasma cannon and forge gun one shots both

knifes

sure, combat rifles and rail rifles do not remove 450 armor with one shot, they can under 1 second though

in short git gud

So why are there so many Amarr Assaults running around with rail rifles these days?

Locus grenade is handheld thrown projectile. Talking Weapons, as in the ' L ' in your Dropsuit Fittings.

SR Takes longer than 1 second to do 450dmg with follow up shots. You have time to react to the damage of it. Unlike a ScR that can Alpha OHK shields with follow up shots.

CR is damage over time. You can react to the damage of it.

Try again m8.

I like how all these shield scouts act like they are representatives of all shields.

A Bolt Pistol can 1HKO or 2HKO me.
A CR kills me in 3 burts
Rail Rifles are the bane of my existence as Gallente.
Core Locus grenades 1HKO me all the time.
Mass Drivers eat you up

But sure. Shield users should have their ONLY viable counter nerfed even more.
Flux grenades only take out your shields. They dont 1HKO you like Core Locus nades do to armor.


Tell you what. If the SCR gets ANOTHER nerf. Then nerf the Boly Pistol's ability to 1HKO or 2HKO any armor suit and nerf explosives as well.

Like I said. Funny how armor tankers have to deal with the over abundance of anti-armor weapon in games while shield users want to nerf that one guy that uses their only viable counter.

And no. I dont use SCR. I specced out of them along side most of the rifles and suits. Only running full Gallente ATM and an ARR still reks me in CQC even with the GalAss buff.

Core Locus grenades 1HKO me all the time.

Except cores do the same damage as the packed, but with full radius.

You have time to react to a CR. Your fault if you don't react fast enough. Say thanks to lowered TTK.
RR Damage over time. You don't die in a second; thus you can react to it. Nor does it do 450dmg in less than 1 second or in 1 shot.
Core Locus Grenades, I brought up a long time ago that that **** needs to get toned down because it's a scrub way out of a gun fight; however, y'all forum warriors cried " git gud" Mhmm, shoe did alreay call Core Nades need to get toned down.
Mass Drivers, Damage over time; thus you can react to the damn thing.

Flux Grenades, I haven't complained because it doesn't kill you in 1 shot. Just drops shields. Now, if it did Armor damage too, then you'd hear me ***** about it.

concept of counter play.

How about:

Triple the charge time.

Make it over heat on anything over a half charge shot.

Make feedback damage 1000 hp.


Yep that should balance it perfectly/

Locus grenade is handheld thrown projectile. Talking Weapons, as in the ' L ' in your Dropsuit Fittings.

SR Takes longer than 1 second to do 450dmg with follow up shots. You have time to react to the damage of it. Unlike a ScR that can Alpha OHK shields with follow up shots.

CR is damage over time. You can react to the damage of it.

Try again m8.

Right right, because being instablapped of 500 shields in less than 1 second is counter play.

Right right, because being instablapped of 500 shields in less than 1 second is counter play. Gives the player no time to react to incoming damage or potential threat. Yeah, that makes sense. As I said, if the gun worked like this below, I wouldn't complain because those are fair drawbacks for the damage output.



1k feedback is too much imo. Maybe 300HP

Its already the least fun weapon in the game now so sure lets nerf it some more.


How about:

Triple the charge time.

Make it over heat on anything over a half charge shot.

Make feedback damage 1000 hp.


Yep that should balance it perfectly/

they are called rail rifles.

Here let me break it down for you so you understand.

Tac Rifles are not as easy to use as the other rifles since you constantly have to time your shots or spam your trigger finger like a mad man. Every other rifle you simply point, shoot, forget. The current scr doesn't have "pin point accuracy".You can barely keep the thing on target against enemies at range. The overheat is a huge factor, but every time you bring up the weapon you act like it is impossible to overheat.... If it were so easy to manage the heat you would see tons of Scr on the kill feed.... but you don't... cause you CAN overheat. Anyone who claims they can play a game vs good players without overheating once is full of **** just like you sir.

also crying about getting hit with charge shot before you notice is stupid, is he supposed to announce he is going to shoot you? is he supposed to wait until you are ready? what about when someone hits you with a bolt pistol before you notice? The charge shot takes three seconds to charge so if both you and your enemy notice each other at the same time he either spams shots or takes a chance and start charging a shot in hopes they don't miss. Balanced. Get Gud.

wailing like a babe about a weapon that is currently is only useful on one suit.

Its cute that you tell me to get gud while simultaneously claiming tac rifles are hard to use or overheat is hard to avoid.

"Every other rifle you simply point, shoot, forget. "
Utter bullshit especially if we are talking about rail tech, which CCP has seen fit to make bounce around like a kid with ADD on a sugar high 10 bullets into the clip. Keeping rails on target is a constant struggle and requires multiple cease fire/recharges per clip if you want to hit anything with any kind of accuracy.

"is he supposed to announce he is going to shoot you" and "what about when someone hits you with a bolt pistol before you notice": One of the problems with the scrambler is you have the front loaded damage of a bolt pistol but then get to switch to the spam shots of a tactical rifle. With the bolt pistol alone you are stuck with the charge and fire mechanic (in addition you cannot hold charge on a bolt pistol, which is a significant difference), with the TAC AR you are stuck with the trigger spam.

In addition to that the raw dps on the bolt pistol is WAY lower (~220 v. shields and ~300 v. armor) than the raw dps on the scrambler rifle (800-900 v. shields vs. low 500s v. armor).

I agree that the overheat is a factor, but its not nearly as important as people who defend the scrambler seem to think, its pretty simple to avoid overheating and easy to employ cover or your sidearm to simply avoid it entirely unless you want to take a calculated risk with the last scrambler shot (which again is a choice you make, overheat is not forced upon you).

Justice and fair play will be served. Either CCP doing it passively or threads continuing to be made.

Looks at new thread title and OP.

Chuckles.

Realizes we all got very well trolled. Nicely done sir.

o7