... how do we do that ?

Posting in a topic regarding Officer weapon removal, I commented that I'd support a full reset instead of that.

IamDuncanIdaho agreed with me, so that makes 2 of us I am wondering how many more would?

So I am opening this post to source player opinions of full resets (ISK+SP+Assets)
I would also like to hear from CCP/CPM regarding what could be done ^^
(Is it even allowed? do Aur purchases cause issue here? Booster usage? etc.)

I have 100mil SP+ 1000's of Officer weapons + $$$

So inb4 "I earned my shiznit, no way they are taking it"

Story time

I began this game, as clueless as any blueberry unfortunate enough to download Dust, my initial research was getting shot in the face repeatedly and along with some friends we gamed for the first few months oblivious to the forum community, CCP or anything else outside of a Pub/FW match.. DMG began as a group of casual gamers wanting to try an FPS, at this stage recruitment was pretty open, using the finest requirements in New Eden which I stand by today "Don't be a D1CK".
There was no interest in community/competition as the game felt like a test demo.. our early goal was just to see what CCP could do with it, *sigh* the good ole' days when the team actually did something during server downtime most days, and players used to get excited before updates/changes..

It wasn't until an in-game event, months into playing that I ever checked the Forum

It wasn't until FF when promise of expansion died that I ever took interest in PC..

In my recent gaming, PC's are the only highlight of Dust.. In public matches..I mostly feel guilty lol as 80% of the players are so far behind they get REKT by a scrub like me.. can/should I claim "skill" here ?? I know most would.. who cares how you went 20/0 as long as you look good.. but I can't enjoy this gameplay at all.. and when I compare it to the old days.. derping about in my militia fits stubbornly going 4/20 as I kept trying to 1v1 that proto scrub (worth it) I have to say, it was more fun back then.. the enitre l33t mentality Dust has been infected with.. is not fun..

ffs, you're an immortal clone.. who cares if you went 20/0.. you realise you can respawn don't you ??

But players don't, they play each battle with risk averse tactics, trying to save dem dolla bills yo.. and with the sheer advantage I have as a bad player with too much ISK+SP.. I have to lol when gamers here act like they are the best.. when in reality.. they are just exploiting a bad system. So it comes down to this.. do we stay comfortable and keep our stuff...

OR, do we save CCP the hassle of cleaning up after a failed DEV team ?? = FULL RESET.

Never, in my time on Dust has there been a level playing field, another thing overdue fixing

...*snip*...
Honest questions here.

Does the bISK problem exist in Eve? If so how is it mitigated?

My experience with eve consisted of flying around killing worthless pirates and shooting lasers at rocks. I always needed more isk but honestly I did not find it very entertaining to play. The lore and universe is super cool but... Yeah boring. I like dust because it's good classic video game fps fun.

Perhaps we can take some notes from eve...

Honest questions here.

Does the bISK problem exist in Eve? If so how is it mitigated?

My experience with eve consisted of flying around killing worthless pirates and shooting lasers at rocks. I always needed more isk but honestly I did not find it very entertaining to play. The lore and universe is super cool but... Yeah boring. I like dust because it's good classic video game fps fun.

Perhaps we can take some notes from eve...

Like this:

* Kill a merc with more SP than you, receive a small bonus to EOM SP earnings.
* Kill a merc with substantially more SP than you, receive a substantial bonus to EOM SP earnings.
* Kill a merc in higher meta gear than yours, receive a small Isk bonus EOM.
* Kill a merc in substantially higher meta gear than yours, receive a substantial Isk bonus EOM.

Given enough time and activity, newbros would begin to close the experience and wealth gap which separates them from veterans. This could make for rapid, activity-focused and performance-driven career advancement.

Source: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2817081#post2817081

Yeah.. why not leave this version as bad as possible.. just to put it off until Dust 2.0

I have been Playing since Feb 2013 and agree that the struggle when I started (got excited if I managed a single kill!) was preferable to the game now. Its either stomp or be stomped and is no fun at all either way. I have a few hundred officer weapons and a couple of suits and would gladly give them all up if we could get some decent matches again.

I have invested both time and money into this game and would like to get back to enjoying it again even if that means "leveling the playing field"

Don't forget that EvE BPO's are not perma-objects that you can simply fit and forget. It's just a recipe list that still requires resources to create the fitted object. Resources cost time to collect and/or ISK to purchase in order to make a completely destructible item. The argument of how DUST decided to handle BPOs goes way back, but now that they're part of every day use it doesn't come up much anymore.

There's been a lot of wonky decisions made over the course of development. To be honest, I'm not sure anything but a clean port correcting the mistakes learned (hopefully?) during this pseudo beta game's life. Shame really, but that's the only way I see balance. The player base is currently too small, fragile, and territorial to survive most of the changes needed to make right what is wrong. New life comes with a port and a new player base, building the game the way it should have been done to begin with. Most vets will probably p!ss and moan and as much as I hate to admit it, they're right to do so---only in so much that CCP created the environment of player entitlement in which that attitude thrives.

Just my 0.02ISK though. YMMV.

idunno anymore.
I'm actually sad that I don't know anymore, and getting to a point where I'm not sure I care anymore either. This is the first post in a while that I've not been trolling of goofing. That in and of itself says a lot to me. hm....

2 defenders of the.. crappiest system imaginable leading to some of the worst results in gameplay balance..

I was thinking of one perk to sooth the butthurt.
- Add unique Suit+Weapon SKINS for each L5 item you have skilled.

Boosters are a major issue.. as handing them back will allow vets to earn over 2mil SP in a week easily.. harsh as it may be.. I dont see an option on refunding these.. it would defeat the purpose of resetting at all. Apart from that.. I have spent over 500 euro and more time on Dust than any game I've played before..

I'd sacrifice all of it to be able to play a "gg"

Full reset? **** no. **** off with that silliness. I want to keep my progression.

Now, if/when we ever get a port, an ISK reset would be nice to have. This would flush the massive ISK wallets created by PC.

I've definitely spent over that and I'm not willing to give up my stuff. If you feel selling boosters or Aurum is a bad business practice bring that to CCP's attention. Don't chastise the player base for being sold on those items and for getting upset about being downwind of the idea that their time (irreplaceable resource) and money (fruits of their labors) should be taken away because some feel it's unfair. A basic Suit/weapon BPO is not an unfair advantage. What saving 800 isk per death is too much of an advantage?

I'd sacrifice all of it to be able to play a "gg"

Too much collateral damage in that case. What about the players who have only been playing for a matter of weeks, still skilling into cores and their first dropsuit/weapon? They would be told, "Okay, all of that progress you made? It's gone. Start over."

Our already poor NPE would be terrifically insulting. I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say what you are proposing would cause thousands of players who are 6 months or less old to quit Dust entirely. The small population of new players we have would be cut in half or more.

So, yeah, this is a terrible idea.

I would like to keep playing the game, but the 7v12 games are a sign of much worse days to come.

Also agree re BPO: 'This isn't EVE' doesn't make the decision for BPOs to have absolutely no cost any less senseless - it's another design decision that removes meaning from the game and its gameplay. Wrong way to go, imo - if we want to reflect New Eden without all the overhead(bpo, bpc, mineral & resource inputs, research and manufacturing costs, etc.) we could just say BPOs reduce the cost of a suit by 2/3.

Easy. Still helps out helps out players, adds meaning to decisions and gameplay, reflects the values of New Eden, aligns the economy and expectations of the playerbase for eventual integration with EVE.

7v12 games have little to do with the existence of veterans or wealth. Veterans and wealth have both existed since Beta; the "Leave Battle" problem (and the resulting lopsided matches) are a relatively new development.

We can solve these problems without going full Spkr. There's no reason to risk doing more harm when more sensible, lower risk measures are available.

On, and here comes baragamos with his K/D is the problem crap.

Keep blaming PC players for your lack of ability. They are the terrible ones lol.

If you really want good games then stop tracking K/D.

No.



I have unique, irreplaceable items, that losing would be unacceptable.

You sadsack, nolifers, want to take my shite away cause somebody can't HTFU?










These are the last days my brothers.....

How does hiding our eyes from problems resolve any problems?

Asinine Ideas
* Obscuring Leaderboards
* Hiding Player Names
* Removing KDR
* Resetting SP

Better Ideas
* Finding better ways to incentivize participation
* Further improving class and weapon balance
* Addressing officer spam Check!
* Improving NPE and building the playerbase
* Working the kumbaya kinks out of end-game play
* Narrowing the TTK gap which separates noobs from vets

Your main still padding in the starter fit matches like I seen him last week press?
Considering I was #53 on the boards last week and Attorney was not even listed. I would probably just stay quite. Then I won't reveal that you habitually squad with three guys and go proto tank on starter fits. You are sad kid. Grow some balls instead of that vagina you have for a mouth. Because the truth is your K/D is padded like a mattress. So, get legitimate or STFU because after I seen you there in multiple games last week you should not even mention K/D kid.