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Beld Errmon 1	Posted - 2015.07.24 10:59:00 - [1] - Quote When you decided to buff swarm launchers CCP, did you ever consider the FUADS effect? The rule seems to be that every person an ADS kills has a 33% chance of butthurt and will respawn with an AV weapon, depending on lack of skills this more often than not is likely to be a swarm launcher. How did you expect the Air game would work out considering that before doing that, AV weapons were more than capable of dealing with dropships? Assault Dropship Pilot Semi-Retired Closed Bittervet
hails8n DEATH BY DESTRUCTION 371	Posted - 2015.07.24 11:04:00 - [2] - Quote Ccp doesnt think. They just run on Rattati fueled rage. It was his decision to triple Nerf assault dropships and buffs swarms all in the same update. Get some life in your hands.
Beld Errmon 1	Posted - 2015.07.24 11:09:00 - [3] - Quote I wonder if there were stats to support doing that, from what i remember the vast majority of ADS pilots were terrible, most were only skilled at the running part of hit and run, maybe thats why he did it, got sick of seeing terrible pilots surviving all match with 2 kills and a handful of WPs to show for it. Assault Dropship Pilot Semi-Retired Closed Bittervet
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 1	Posted - 2015.07.24 11:13:00 - [4] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: a 33% chance of butthurt and will respawn with an AV weapon 33%? Try more like 60%... But really, Rattati seems very slow to react to the vehicle meta. I mean, I get there are buttholes that keep lobbying to keep their murderdeathinvicomachines (looking at some Madrugar advocates right now, as there were some ADS advocates before) but most aren't that way. Rattati just seems to take forever deciding on what to do with vehicles. I mean, Madrugars have been stupidly OP for months now, but not a peep from him about a possible solution. Dropships in general have suffered for a long time now, even with the Swarm range reduction they're plenty capable of causing bowel loosening terror in all but the best of the best pilots. Essentially, even though Rattati has commented about DS ills before, don't expect anything any time soon, because vehicles rate a fraction of his attention compared to even a single gun...or at least it looks that way to a vehicle user (because we rarely see him commenting on vehicles.) /halfrant... Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
Beld Errmon 1	Posted - 2015.07.24 11:31:00 - [5] - Quote I was trying to be conservative, but yeah reactionary AV is as fierce as it is persistent, you kill one guy he will pull out his best AV, kill him while hes using that AV he activates uber butthurt mode and will either call a redline tank or try to ram you with another dropship, some ppl will go to amazing lengths to get their revenge on a skywhale. The worst thing though is killing someone in a squad, you've got almost no chance once you hinder a squad in their stompage, all 4 guys will turn protoAV plus tanks on you, and once they get their kill they'll keep atleast one guy on the high ground somewhere just waiting for you, 500m bubble of no fly zone goes up and all dropship fun ceases. Assault Dropship Pilot Semi-Retired Closed Bittervet
tffvbhb Pile 'em Up 26	Posted - 2015.07.24 21:24:00 - [6] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: I was trying to be conservative, but yeah reactionary AV is as fierce as it is persistent, you kill one guy he will pull out his best AV, kill him while hes using that AV he activates uber butthurt mode and will either call a redline tank or try to ram you with another dropship, some ppl will go to amazing lengths to get their revenge on a skywhale. The worst thing though is killing someone in a squad, you've got almost no chance once you hinder a squad in their stompage, all 4 guys will turn protoAV plus tanks on you, and once they get their kill they'll keep atleast one guy on the high ground somewhere just waiting for you, 500m bubble of no fly zone goes up and all dropship fun ceases. I always liked the idea of my entire squad getting PROTO breach forges and hitting something
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 10	Posted - 2015.07.24 21:43:00 - [7] - Quote Kallas Hallytyr wrote: Beld Errmon wrote: a 33% chance of butthurt and will respawn with an AV weapon 33%? Try more like 60%... But really, Rattati seems very slow to react to the vehicle meta. I mean, I get there are buttholes that keep lobbying to keep their murderdeathinvicomachines (looking at some Madrugar advocates right now, as there were some ADS advocates before) but most aren't that way. Rattati just seems to take forever deciding on what to do with vehicles. I mean, Madrugars have been stupidly OP for months now, but not a peep from him about a possible solution. Dropships in general have suffered for a long time now, even with the Swarm range reduction they're plenty capable of causing bowel loosening terror in all but the best of the best pilots. Essentially, even though Rattati has commented about DS ills before, don't expect anything any time soon, because vehicles rate a fraction of his attention compared to even a single gun...or at least it looks that way to a vehicle user (because we rarely see him commenting on vehicles.) /halfrant... Rattati literally feeds off of constructive forum input, especially when someone decides to be hella helpful and do the math to back their assertions. There is zero guarantee he will accept it, you can see shades of End-User input in every decision, and we've seen him fall back on player ideas. The reason, my guess would be, is with Vehicle meta changes it takes a lot more effort to sift through the bullsh** and find the stuff that will help. His tank tier/tiericide thread had literally forty pages of spkr4thedead and a few select individuals shouting down anyone who tried to contribute. Makes it a nightmare pain in the ass to get useful feedback in that mess. And bluntly, Tankers and pilots need to speak up and front their own ideas, math and input, because thus far it's either been lacking or from sources who take other peoples' work, twist it out of context or flat alter it to suit their designs. ADS and dropship pilots flatly refuse to help give me enough info to do the math that would be needed FOR them. I'm not out to get HAV drivers but FFS, there's not going to be a healthy meta discussion if no one can come to an agreement where to start. And if guys like me are the only ones providing the kind of detailed feedback about HAVs/Derpships/whatever how the hell is Rattati supposed to sift up a valid counterpoint that he can test against mine and his own theories, findings and recommendations? I want HAVs to be powerful, yeah, but I don't necessarily want it "my way, right away." I'm just pushy as hell. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 3	Posted - 2015.07.24 21:56:00 - [8] - Quote assault dropships still have an extremely important roll. the control of high ground through uplink placement and destruction. in a PC match players use that high ground to spawn and seed the low ground with uplinks, having those reserve links high up proteccts them from infantry but not ADS. of course in pubs your average joe is likely to just sit up on the high ground wasting the advantage for some extra kills and probably diddnt bring more upllinks to seed the objectives with but in a high tier battle its almost essential to have an ADS pilot capable of giving you that position and keeping it. so despite their uselessness as a slaying machine its become more of a support role, reliant on a smart team to be useful. used properly htey are preetty powerful and this is why PC teams tend to refund ADS losses to pilots who provide this servace. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 10	Posted - 2015.07.24 22:07:00 - [9] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: assault dropships still have an extremely important roll. the control of high ground through uplink placement and destruction. in a PC match players use that high ground to spawn and seed the low ground with uplinks, having those reserve links high up proteccts them from infantry but not ADS. of course in pubs your average joe is likely to just sit up on the high ground wasting the advantage for some extra kills and probably diddnt bring more upllinks to seed the objectives with but in a high tier battle its almost essential to have an ADS pilot capable of giving you that position and keeping it. so despite their uselessness as a slaying machine its become more of a support role, reliant on a smart team to be useful. used properly htey are preetty powerful and this is why PC teams tend to refund ADS losses to pilots who provide this servace. Plus a good ADS pilot who isn't triggerhappy can do all sorts of neat things, like sneak up on me while I'm trying to kill a tank and murdering me before the shadow passing under me fully registers. There's a few ADS pilots out there I have to give props to. they either will not die, or they actually managed to get me before I lobbed a shot off at them. More than once. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 1	Posted - 2015.07.24 22:07:00 - [10] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Stuff Yeah, I know. It's mostly the silence surrounding vehicles, especially around the ADS, that is frustrating. Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.

Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 10	Posted - 2015.07.24 22:56:00 - [11] - Quote Kallas Hallytyr wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Stuff Yeah, I know. It's mostly the silence surrounding vehicles, especially around the ADS, that is frustrating. Edit: I can't even remember the last time Rattati actually talked about the ADS - or even the current Madrugar situation - aside from a half recent (like, six months ago) and nebulous comment about working on stuff. Bluntly if I were in his shoes I'd be reluctant to give a crap. Hell, I'm about burned out on it myself. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
DDx77 Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 327	Posted - 2015.07.24 23:40:00 - [12] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: I wonder if there were stats to support doing that, from what i remember the vast majority of ADS pilots were terrible, most were only skilled at the running part of hit and run, maybe thats why he did it, got sick of seeing terrible pilots surviving all match with 2 kills and a handful of WPs to show for it. - T...t...tt..ta..t...TWO Kills????? Try 20- 0 without breaking a sweat before the nerf. I agree that ADS survivability was nerfed a bit much but again, before the nerf it was a nigh invincible officer Mass Driver hovering over your head pooping on you
Vlad Rostok SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 184	Posted - 2015.07.24 23:49:00 - [13] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: I was trying to be conservative, but yeah reactionary AV is as fierce as it is persistent, you kill one guy he will pull out his best AV, kill him while hes using that AV he activates uber butthurt mode and will either call a redline tank or try to ram you with another dropship, some ppl will go to amazing lengths to get their revenge on a skywhale. The worst thing though is killing someone in a squad, you've got almost no chance once you hinder a squad in their stompage, all 4 guys will turn protoAV plus tanks on you, and once they get their kill they'll keep atleast one guy on the high ground somewhere just waiting for you, 500m bubble of no fly zone goes up and all dropship fun ceases. And you're surprised by this? A self professed non-gun carrier like yourself? All you can see is your lack of dropship fun. Perhaps you should consider the non-fun that the infantry you mercilessly slaughter are having.
Beld Errmon 1	Posted - 2015.07.25 00:06:00 - [14] - Quote DDx77 wrote: Beld Errmon wrote: I wonder if there were stats to support doing that, from what i remember the vast majority of ADS pilots were terrible, most were only skilled at the running part of hit and run, maybe thats why he did it, got sick of seeing terrible pilots surviving all match with 2 kills and a handful of WPs to show for it. - T...t...tt..ta..t...TWO Kills????? Try 20- 0 without breaking a sweat before the nerf. I agree that ADS survivability was nerfed a bit much but again, before the nerf it was a nigh invincible officer Mass Driver hovering over your head pooping on you believe me even when ADS were really good, the vast majority of pilots were absolutely terrible. Assault Dropship Pilot Semi-Retired Closed Bittervet
Beld Errmon 1	Posted - 2015.07.25 00:25:00 - [15] - Quote Vlad Rostok wrote: Beld Errmon wrote: I was trying to be conservative, but yeah reactionary AV is as fierce as it is persistent, you kill one guy he will pull out his best AV, kill him while hes using that AV he activates uber butthurt mode and will either call a redline tank or try to ram you with another dropship, some ppl will go to amazing lengths to get their revenge on a skywhale. The worst thing though is killing someone in a squad, you've got almost no chance once you hinder a squad in their stompage, all 4 guys will turn protoAV plus tanks on you, and once they get their kill they'll keep atleast one guy on the high ground somewhere just waiting for you, 500m bubble of no fly zone goes up and all dropship fun ceases. And you're surprised by this? A self professed non-gun carrier like yourself? All you can see is your lack of dropship fun. Perhaps you should consider the non-fun that the infantry you mercilessly slaughter are having. People like to carry on like an ADS getting 30+ kills back in the day was some kind of crime against humanity, but seem to overlook the many matches where a guy with a rifle does the same kinda killing, the only difference is "wah my AR can't kill a dropship in under 1 second" perhaps with your follow up post you'll tell me to get some ground game like some rail tanker i repeatedly chased into the redline yesterday. In the rock paper scissors game dropships appear to be the forgotten 4th move, with some fairly minor changes a bit of balance could be restored without throwing everything else out of whack, for example giving them a higher resistance to swarms, vs forge and plasma cannons the balance is fine, but swarms especially high level suit enhanced ones are just far too much of an I win button. Assault Dropship Pilot Semi-Retired Closed Bittervet
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 1	Posted - 2015.07.25 01:04:00 - [16] - Quote Vlad Rostok wrote: And you're surprised by this? A self professed non-gun carrier like yourself? All you can see is your lack of dropship fun. Perhaps you should consider the non-fun that the infantry you mercilessly slaughter are having. +Çs someone who would very much like a reason to get in his ADS again, I find that dropships are very easy to drive off. Get a Commando with the kind of guns you like, equip one and put a Swarm on. You'll knock about any DS that comes near, get a bunch of WP from it and make their gametime a frustrating exercise in futility. Actually killing things from the pilot's seat of an ADS is not easy: a friend of mine has skilled some way into Pythons, as a casual, investigative kind of way. He's lucky to get assists, let alone kills. By the way some people present it all you need to do is buy an ADS and your KDR skyrockets to 2,500.0, but that simply isn't the case. ADSs that continuously harass an entire enemy team are not the average pilot, they are the ones that have spent literally years flying and fighting against AV weapons balanced against HAVs.* Have you considered the non-fun that the pilots that aren't super-incredi-awesome have when even a single Swarmer pops up, barely rendering, and swats them about with next to no effort required. Swings and roundabouts. What is pretty clear is that there needs to be distinction between anti-HAV weapons and anti-light vehicle weapons. *Please note, I'm not saying that I'm that good, simply that those kinds of pilots are not the average, they are the tippy-top of the pilot totem pole. Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
Vlad Rostok SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 184	Posted - 2015.07.25 01:45:00 - [17] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: Vlad Rostok wrote: Beld Errmon wrote: I was trying to be conservative, but yeah reactionary AV is as fierce as it is persistent, you kill one guy he will pull out his best AV, kill him while hes using that AV he activates uber butthurt mode and will either call a redline tank or try to ram you with another dropship, some ppl will go to amazing lengths to get their revenge on a skywhale. The worst thing though is killing someone in a squad, you've got almost no chance once you hinder a squad in their stompage, all 4 guys will turn protoAV plus tanks on you, and once they get their kill they'll keep atleast one guy on the high ground somewhere just waiting for you, 500m bubble of no fly zone goes up and all dropship fun ceases. And you're surprised by this? A self professed non-gun carrier like yourself? All you can see is your lack of dropship fun. Perhaps you should consider the non-fun that the infantry you mercilessly slaughter are having. People like to carry on like an ADS getting 30+ kills back in the day was some kind of crime against humanity, but seem to overlook the many matches where a guy with a rifle does the same kinda killing, the only difference is "wah my AR can't kill a dropship in under 1 second" perhaps with your follow up post you'll tell me to get some ground game like some rail tanker i repeatedly chased into the redline yesterday. In the rock paper scissors game dropships appear to be the forgotten 4th move, with some fairly minor changes a bit of balance could be restored without throwing everything else out of whack, for example giving them a higher resistance to swarms, vs forge and plasma cannons the balance is fine, but swarms especially high level suit enhanced ones are just far too much of an I win button. Nah, I'd not tell anyone what they "had" to do to play and enjoy a game. I don't have much ground game and much as I'd like to learn to fly dropships I'm even worse at that. Thinking about it there probably is room for tweaks as far as DS' are concerned opposite SL's. Problem is SL's are worthless against HAV's now. I use proto swarms and can't do anything to HAV's. They barely even run away.
Vlad Rostok SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 184	Posted - 2015.07.25 01:47:00 - [18] - Quote Kallas Hallytyr wrote: Vlad Rostok wrote: And you're surprised by this? A self professed non-gun carrier like yourself? All you can see is your lack of dropship fun. Perhaps you should consider the non-fun that the infantry you mercilessly slaughter are having. +Çs someone who would very much like a reason to get in his ADS again, I find that dropships are very easy to drive off. Get a Commando with the kind of guns you like, equip one and put a Swarm on. You'll knock about any DS that comes near, get a bunch of WP from it and make their gametime a frustrating exercise in futility. Actually killing things from the pilot's seat of an ADS is not easy: a friend of mine has skilled some way into Pythons, as a casual, investigative kind of way. He's lucky to get assists, let alone kills. By the way some people present it all you need to do is buy an ADS and your KDR skyrockets to 2,500.0, but that simply isn't the case. ADSs that continuously harass an entire enemy team are not the average pilot, they are the ones that have spent literally years flying and fighting against AV weapons balanced against HAVs.* Have you considered the non-fun that the pilots that aren't super-incredi-awesome have when even a single Swarmer pops up, barely rendering, and swats them about with next to no effort required. Swings and roundabouts. What is pretty clear is that there needs to be distinction between anti-HAV weapons and anti-light vehicle weapons. *Please note, I'm not saying that I'm that good, simply that those kinds of pilots are not the average, they are the tippy-top of the pilot totem pole. Okay, agreed. Also agree that there should be distinct AA and AT weaponry.
DeadlyAztec11 Defenders of the Helghast Dream 8	Posted - 2015.07.25 02:48:00 - [19] - Quote I actually did this today. I spawned in a proto suits for the first time in a long time and was two shotted by an ADS. He didn't know I was a top level AV specialist who sank all of his SP into AV first. I looked like I was only running around with an SMG. I waited for him to get close. Then I dropped him out of the sky and killed him with my Assault SMG. His squad and him spent the rest of the match trying to find me only for me to force them to run away. Vehicle users won't have there way as long as there are people like me out there. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Larkson Crazy Eye WarRavens RUST415 126	Posted - 2015.07.25 03:13:00 - [20] - Quote I know this is not the real goal of the thread but since when did they buff Swarms? I mean the last change I remember was a nerf in their lock on range only being 175 now. Given all the other problems with swarms that still exist I hardly consider them 'buffed'. Frankly the only change that could be considered a good thing is the Mim commando bonus to dmg and reload speed.

Lupus Wolf Minmatar Republic 320	Posted - 2015.07.25 04:00:00 - [21] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: DDx77 wrote: Beld Errmon wrote: I wonder if there were stats to support doing that, from what i remember the vast majority of ADS pilots were terrible, most were only skilled at the running part of hit and run, maybe thats why he did it, got sick of seeing terrible pilots surviving all match with 2 kills and a handful of WPs to show for it. - T...t...tt..ta..t...TWO Kills????? Try 20- 0 without breaking a sweat before the nerf. I agree that ADS survivability was nerfed a bit much but again, before the nerf it was a nigh invincible officer Mass Driver hovering over your head pooping on you believe me even when ADS were really good, the vast majority of pilots were absolutely terrible. Applies to me, I suppose. I've been an ADS pilot for over a year and I just got into the groove of chasing infantry. Normally, i'd just drop off squad mates and destroy uplinks (apart from chasing enemy dropships and tanks). Unfortunately, right as I start to "git gud," my ps3 dies. I'm not buying a new one just for dust, though. Too bad, too. I REALLY miss my Incubus. "Dogfighting with missiles is like watching two armless kids try to catch a baseball." - Dust Fiend
Squagga Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 974	Posted - 2015.07.25 05:18:00 - [22] - Quote Why're you guys always crying about how you can't hide in a vehicle? Shields, the silent killer.
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1	Posted - 2015.07.25 05:45:00 - [23] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: When you decided to buff swarm launchers CCP, did you ever consider the FUADS effect? The rule seems to be that every person an ADS kills has a 33% chance of butthurt and will respawn with an AV weapon, depending on lack of skills this more often than not is likely to be a swarm launcher. How did you expect the Air game would work out considering that before doing that, AV weapons were more than capable of dealing with dropships? If swarms required LOS in order for them to go at maximum speed and do maximum damage, they might be a bit more balanced... As in, the user has to keep the target in the reticule to "assist" the missile toward the target. If they loose LOS the missiles can go on self guidance, but they would be slower and have less damage after a few seconds. This would enable direct assaults by AV, but also permit evasive action of a Pilot to be rewarded. If the swarms were only allowed "assistance" by the last volley shot, it could make some interesting setups. (as in if one is in the air and the user tries to lock on again, the first volley looses the assistance buff if it hits because it's not the "active" volley anymore.) Kallas Hallytyr wrote: I mean, Madrugars have been stupidly OP for months now, ... with lower kill counts than the average dropsuit user... Makes me wonder what you consider "OP". AV users like me clean them out like a preschool trip to a candy store. I've only seen one tank so far, that could evade the AV shots I put at it, but it did so by running around the field like a chicken with it's head cut off. http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
Beld Errmon 1	Posted - 2015.07.25 09:15:00 - [24] - Quote Squagga wrote: Why're you guys always crying about how you can't hide in a vehicle? Yes of course that is what this thread is about. It has nothing to do with a dedicated pilot whos recently started playing again talking about the balance between a particular vehicle vs a particular AV weapon. But please tell me more about how a dropship that can be seen from every location on a given map is hiding, while the opposition pops out of doorways and from behind rocks or just sits in the redline with unbalanced homing weapons, some which seem to be able to fire multiple volleys in a shorter period of time than seems allowable within the games stats. Assault Dropship Pilot Semi-Retired Closed Bittervet
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game 729	Posted - 2015.07.25 09:59:00 - [25] - Quote Swarms are good against dropships but suck against tanks. The balance isn't to be made on the AV weapon but on the vehicles. Dropships were utterly OP. Now they kill and can get killed as well. From what I see IG, they look balanced now. Tanks need a good nerf (mostly hardeners and large blasters) since they are litterally invincible. WON'T YOU PLEASE TAKE ME HOME !
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 1	Posted - 2015.07.25 11:29:00 - [26] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: ... with lower kill counts than the average dropsuit user... Makes me wonder what you consider "OP". AV users like me clean them out like a preschool trip to a candy store. I've only seen one tank so far, that could evade the AV shots I put at it, but it did so by running around the field like a chicken with it's head cut off. Want to share your magic techniques? Without the use of AV grenades a solo AV will pretty much never take down a half awake Maddy, let alone a decent operator. Forge Guns are pretty much incapable of soloing Maddies at all; PLCs not even slightly; Swarms, maybe if you chase them down with Lai Dai Packed, but far from easy/guaranteed; Proxy Mines are so easily avoided it's ridiculous; Packed REs are incredibly hard to apply to a half decent operator; and AV grenades are good for short range burst damage, but they're only good at spitting distance. So while it is potentially possible to kill Madrugars, it is far from likely for any given AVer and will likely take 2-3 to have a chance. Then consider that due to some broken mechanic you rarely actually get WP for damaging them, and AV isn't properly rewarded for trying to deal with them. Is it possible to deal with Madrugars? Yes. Are they killing everything ever? No. But when they don't have a reasonable chance of death against 2+ AVers, something is wrong. This is pretty much identical to 1.7, and ADSs then too. ADSs right now are at least balanced with FGs, even Swarms as far as actual damage output is concerned - it's the Swarm's application that skews the balance way in their favour. Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
Scotty AI MatchMaker WarRavens RUST415 239	Posted - 2015.07.25 14:31:00 - [27] - Quote reading the OP im shocked, so a tank camps a redline, shreds me to oblivion and back, i respawn with a swarm and im an idiot? should i of gone running at it with nova knives? swarms can't lock on to people so dont bring out tanks and ads, and i'll have no reason to bring out beacons modded to death and go through hell and back trying to lock it up 'The shadows betray you because they belong to me,'
Beld Errmon 1	Posted - 2015.07.25 14:33:00 - [28] - Quote Scotty AI MatchMaker wrote: reading the OP im shocked, so a tank camps a redline, shreds me to oblivion and back, i respawn with a swarm and im an idiot? should i of gone running at it with nova knives? swarms can't lock on to people so dont bring out tanks and ads, and i'll have no reason to bring out beacons modded to death and go through hell and back trying to lock it up what opening post are you reading? cause it features none of your off topic drivel. Assault Dropship Pilot Semi-Retired Closed Bittervet
Scotty AI MatchMaker WarRavens RUST415 239	Posted - 2015.07.25 14:38:00 - [29] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: Scotty AI MatchMaker wrote: reading the OP im shocked, so a tank camps a redline, shreds me to oblivion and back, i respawn with a swarm and im an idiot? should i of gone running at it with nova knives? swarms can't lock on to people so dont bring out tanks and ads, and i'll have no reason to bring out beacons modded to death and go through hell and back trying to lock it up what opening post are you reading? cause it features none of your off topic drivel. and the penny drops, 'The shadows betray you because they belong to me,'
BARAGAMOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 116	Posted - 2015.07.25 14:52:00 - [30] - Quote Here is a clue for all you guys QQing about swarms.... This is not a vehicle combat game. SURPRISE!!!!! The vehicles augment the game, but are not the core. Swarms are fine. The rise of ADS in the last few weeks show that. In truth you can almost never actually kill one with swarms unless the pilot is awful. Now if two guys or more are trying than yeah you might get shot down, but WTF happens when two or more guys do the same thing to a guy on the ground??? They shut him down. The game is not about safe ways to pad K/D while you fire from a position that the other team can't counter play. Your light weapon is your man weapon not your DS. They are a great addition to field, but they are not made to be what you do the entire game. You use them then recall them once the AV shows up. You don't get to fly around and go 10+/0 because you feel like you should . So adapt your thinking. Its not a Vehicle game and individuals should be able to compete with vehicles after a respawn not simply have to die repeatedly of avoid an area entirely because of one.



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