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Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 194	Posted - 2015.07.18 19:59:00 - [1] - Quote 1. Bring back "going negative if you fight against your own faction" 2. Give a VERY handsome reward for completing your LP bar in any given faction. I'm thinking an advanced bpo suit with all slots filled. Trust me its not EZ to get to fill your LP standing, but I propose we make it even harder (500,000 LP and 50 mil isk) to get the suit. This would completely negate the one sided qsyncs that have recently ruined fw for everyone. 3. We need 16 man sqds I'm done with dust until I see this happen.. It's impossible to find an evenly matched battle ATM. The people who used to be die hard loyalists have all quit in disgust. I really don't care I'm going to be playing the Division exclusively the second its released. Done wasting my life fighting the over 90% scr bolt pistol punks that run dust...
Omega Black Zero Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance 193	Posted - 2015.07.18 20:01:00 - [2] - Quote Can I have your isk?
D4GG3R 0uter.Heaven 1	Posted - 2015.07.18 20:01:00 - [3] - Quote The Gallente loyalist finally gets angry I'm pretty plain. I watch anime for the boobs
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 8	Posted - 2015.07.18 20:07:00 - [4] - Quote Then get a good, competent squad. 8 players can go a long way. Perhaps not win, but hold the city quite well. *Scouts United* Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
Zan Azikuchi G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance 247	Posted - 2015.07.18 20:18:00 - [5] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: 1. Bring back "going negative if you fight against your own faction" 2. Give a VERY handsome reward for completing your LP bar in any given faction. I'm thinking an advanced bpo suit with all slots filled. Trust me its not EZ to get to fill your LP standing, but I propose we make it even harder (500,000 LP and 50 mil isk) to get the suit. Also YOU may ONLY have 1 loyalty suit at a time..This would completely negate the one sided qsyncs that have recently ruined fw for everyone. 3. We need 16 man sqds I'm done with dust until I see this happen.. It's impossible to find an evenly matched battle ATM. The people who used to be die hard loyalists have all quit in disgust. I really don't care I'm going to be playing the Division exclusively the second its released. Done wasting my life fighting the over 90% scr bolt pistol punks that run dust... Have fun playing Division! When there is light, shadow's lurk and fear reign's... Yet by the blade of knight's, mankind, was given hope.
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 195	Posted - 2015.07.18 20:21:00 - [6] - Quote Zan Azikuchi wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: 1. Bring back "going negative if you fight against your own faction" 2. Give a VERY handsome reward for completing your LP bar in any given faction. I'm thinking an advanced bpo suit with all slots filled. Trust me its not EZ to get to fill your LP standing, but I propose we make it even harder (500,000 LP and 50 mil isk) to get the suit. Also YOU may ONLY have 1 loyalty suit at a time..This would completely negate the one sided qsyncs that have recently ruined fw for everyone. 3. We need 16 man sqds I'm done with dust until I see this happen.. It's impossible to find an evenly matched battle ATM. The people who used to be die hard loyalists have all quit in disgust. I really don't care I'm going to be playing the Division exclusively the second its released. Done wasting my life fighting the over 90% scr bolt pistol punks that run dust... Have fun playing Division! You sound like you might be running a scr/bolt pistol on a min assault? Like 90% of dust?
Larkson Crazy Eye WarRavens 102	Posted - 2015.07.18 20:32:00 - [7] - Quote We don't need 16 man teams.... It would be nice but honestly it's not hard to qsync two squads of 8. It sounds more like you are having trouble of getting 16 players together to field a team. 16 man squads won't help that. 8 man squads are enough to highly contest one or two points of a map, you can still win if the blue berry's do at least something even if's just be a distraction and die. Sadly the biggest problem in FW are people who do nothing at all, but then again it's the same in pubs. Most of the time their not even spies, their just lazy players. Not that there isn't a time to give up and stop feeding the enemy KDR but a lot of people sit back and spin in the MCC from the start.
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 195	Posted - 2015.07.18 20:43:00 - [8] - Quote Larkson Crazy Eye wrote: We don't need 16 man teams.... It would be nice but honestly it's not hard to qsync two squads of 8. It sounds more like you are having trouble of getting 16 players together to field a team. 16 man squads won't help that. 8 man squads are enough to highly contest one or two points of a map, you can still win if the blue berry's do at least something even if's just be a distraction and die. Sadly the biggest problem in FW are people who do nothing at all, but then again it's the same in pubs. Most of the time their not even spies, their just lazy players. Not that there isn't a time to give up and stop feeding the enemy KDR but a lot of people sit back and spin in the MCC from the start. I agree that 16 man sqds are the least of our problems, but would still help teams that aren't synced.. Don't agree with your take on the biggest problem . why you think those players are hiding/doing nothing? Because they are protesting against proto stp sync vs. their team of random solos..
Zan Azikuchi G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance 248	Posted - 2015.07.18 20:52:00 - [9] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: Zan Azikuchi wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: 1. Bring back "going negative if you fight against your own faction" 2. Give a VERY handsome reward for completing your LP bar in any given faction. I'm thinking an advanced bpo suit with all slots filled. Trust me its not EZ to get to fill your LP standing, but I propose we make it even harder (500,000 LP and 50 mil isk) to get the suit. Also YOU may ONLY have 1 loyalty suit at a time..This would completely negate the one sided qsyncs that have recently ruined fw for everyone. 3. We need 16 man sqds I'm done with dust until I see this happen.. It's impossible to find an evenly matched battle ATM. The people who used to be die hard loyalists have all quit in disgust. I really don't care I'm going to be playing the Division exclusively the second its released. Done wasting my life fighting the over 90% scr bolt pistol punks that run dust... Have fun playing Division! You sound like you might be running a scr/bolt pistol on a min assault? Like 90% of dust? Caldari Assault with Rail Rifle and BP, want to make another assumption, good sir? When there is light, shadow's lurk and fear reign's... Yet by the blade of knight's, mankind, was given hope.
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 195	Posted - 2015.07.18 20:57:00 - [10] - Quote Zan Azikuchi wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: Zan Azikuchi wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: 1. Bring back "going negative if you fight against your own faction" 2. Give a VERY handsome reward for completing your LP bar in any given faction. I'm thinking an advanced bpo suit with all slots filled. Trust me its not EZ to get to fill your LP standing, but I propose we make it even harder (500,000 LP and 50 mil isk) to get the suit. Also YOU may ONLY have 1 loyalty suit at a time..This would completely negate the one sided qsyncs that have recently ruined fw for everyone. 3. We need 16 man sqds I'm done with dust until I see this happen.. It's impossible to find an evenly matched battle ATM. The people who used to be die hard loyalists have all quit in disgust. I really don't care I'm going to be playing the Division exclusively the second its released. Done wasting my life fighting the over 90% scr bolt pistol punks that run dust... Have fun playing Division! You sound like you might be running a scr/bolt pistol on a min assault? Like 90% of dust? Caldari Assault with Rail Rifle and BP, want to make another assumption, good sir? So I missed guessing your exact loadout only because you decided to use the #2 most op wep that gets bonus for ur suit? Lol thanks for confirming your scrub status..

Zan Azikuchi G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance 248	Posted - 2015.07.18 20:59:00 - [11] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: Zan Azikuchi wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: Zan Azikuchi wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: 1. Bring back "going negative if you fight against your own faction" 2. Give a VERY handsome reward for completing your LP bar in any given faction. I'm thinking an advanced bpo suit with all slots filled. Trust me its not EZ to get to fill your LP standing, but I propose we make it even harder (500,000 LP and 50 mil isk) to get the suit. Also YOU may ONLY have 1 loyalty suit at a time..This would completely negate the one sided qsyncs that have recently ruined fw for everyone. 3. We need 16 man sqds I'm done with dust until I see this happen.. It's impossible to find an evenly matched battle ATM. The people who used to be die hard loyalists have all quit in disgust. I really don't care I'm going to be playing the Division exclusively the second its released. Done wasting my life fighting the over 90% scr bolt pistol punks that run dust... Have fun playing Division! You sound like you might be running a scr/bolt pistol on a min assault? Like 90% of dust? Caldari Assault with Rail Rifle and BP, want to make another assumption, good sir? So I missed guessing your exact loadout only because you decided to use the #2 most op wep that gets bonus for ur suit? Lol thanks for confirming your scrub status.. Coming from the armor wh0re, I'll take that as a compliment . When there is light, shadow's lurk and fear reign's... Yet by the blade of knight's, mankind, was given hope.
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 195	Posted - 2015.07.18 21:10:00 - [12] - Quote Scouts with any common sense are now forced to trade any ewar slots to armor due to the fact that scouts no longer have ewar... And everyone has gotten a 6 -20% buff in dps duw to barge and officer weps .But I'll save that topic for another post.. What's ur excuse for being a sheeple? Go back to your herd.. Bhaaaa bhaaa
Panthrax Oblivion 497	Posted - 2015.07.18 21:11:00 - [13] - Quote I use amarr sent with light weapon :D h8 mail for dayzzz (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! Turbo controller sissies
Vitharr Foebane 2	Posted - 2015.07.18 21:29:00 - [14] - Quote Panthrax Oblivion wrote: I use amarr sent with light weapon :D h8 mail for dayzzz i used to be mad about that but when a midget can p*ss farther then the HMGs effective range i understand why people want to use light weapons Amarr Omnisoldier: Assault, Commando, Logistics, Scout, Sentinel at V My faith is in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Golden Day Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2015.07.18 22:03:00 - [15] - Quote Loyalist have quit? Say that to the loyalist in STF.... Im just a glorified blueberry
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 216	Posted - 2015.07.19 01:55:00 - [16] - Quote They aren't loyalists, just followers...
Booby Tuesdays Bad Mother Thukkers 1	Posted - 2015.07.19 01:59:00 - [17] - Quote All the tryhards can't stomp pubs as easy now, so they moved to FW, where they can stomp much more freely. It's sad, they claim they want good fights, but in reality they want the exact opposite. Half Assed Forum Warrior - Half Decent Commando - Damn Good Logi - Matari Freedom Fighter lvl 8
Golden Day Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2015.07.19 02:04:00 - [18] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: They aren't loyalists, just followers... Starlights Nelo Squaggs Songs and more aren't followers also good bye make sure to biomass Im just a glorified blueberry
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.19 02:07:00 - [19] - Quote 1) Clarify please. 2) This isn't balanced 3) This isn't balanced, and it wouldn't fix any of the problems you're having in Gallente FW. In fact it would only lead to you being crushed even harder. Goodbye and good riddance. By the way I was thoroughly amused when you came into STF the other day and threw a tantrum about all the 'qsyncers' there (which we haven't had to actually do in a while), it was funny cause no one was on voice in the channel and five plus separate 8 man squads were running. This tantrum is incredibly ironic given your desire for 16man squads because that would just lead to you losing even worse and harder. Guess being a gallente loyalist isn't so good anymore now that it's no longer easy mode. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.19 02:10:00 - [20] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: They aren't loyalists, just followers... Of course they are. A large number of them have struggled through the down periods of Cal FW and were instrumental in being able to draw together a player base as well as attract the attentions of those corps who act as balance breakers. They're all still there too. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.

Golden Day Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2015.07.19 02:13:00 - [21] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: 1) Clarify please. 2) This isn't balanced 3) This isn't balanced, and it wouldn't fix any of the problems you're having in Gallente FW. In fact it would only lead to you being crushed even harder. Goodbye and good riddance. By the way I was thoroughly amused when you came into STF the other day and threw a tantrum about all the 'qsyncers' there (which we haven't had to actually do in a while), it was funny cause no one was on voice in the channel and five plus separate 8 man squads were running. This tantrum is incredibly ironic given your desire for 16man squads because that would just lead to you losing even worse and harder. Guess being a gallente loyalist isn't so good anymore now that it's no longer easy mode. Smoky.... Im just a glorified blueberry
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 216	Posted - 2015.07.19 02:17:00 - [22] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: 1) Clarify please. 2) This isn't balanced 3) This isn't balanced, and it wouldn't fix any of the problems you're having in Gallente FW. In fact it would only lead to you being crushed even harder. Goodbye and good riddance. By the way I was thoroughly amused when you came into STF the other day and threw a tantrum about all the 'qsyncers' there (which we haven't had to actually do in a while), it was funny cause no one was on voice in the channel and five plus separate 8 man squads were running. This tantrum is incredibly ironic given your desire for 16man squads because that would just lead to you losing even worse and harder. Guess being a gallente loyalist isn't so good anymore now that it's no longer easy mode. Nice try scrub..but 16 man sqds was my 3rd suggestion , and in no way would make things worse.. Would merely even the odds in the sqd making meta game... And you give no reason other than you probably repeating something some other forum warrior said..
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 217	Posted - 2015.07.19 02:19:00 - [23] - Quote Golden Day wrote: Mina Longstrike wrote: 1) Clarify please. 2) This isn't balanced 3) This isn't balanced, and it wouldn't fix any of the problems you're having in Gallente FW. In fact it would only lead to you being crushed even harder. Goodbye and good riddance. By the way I was thoroughly amused when you came into STF the other day and threw a tantrum about all the 'qsyncers' there (which we haven't had to actually do in a while), it was funny cause no one was on voice in the channel and five plus separate 8 man squads were running. This tantrum is incredibly ironic given your desire for 16man squads because that would just lead to you losing even worse and harder. Guess being a gallente loyalist isn't so good anymore now that it's no longer easy mode. Smoky.... I was GFW grinding way before you scrubs started calling it EZ mode... I tend to make it EZ for my teammates, so thanks for noticing.. And we NEVER synced until we started seeing theSTF syn cers.. The matches were evenly matched mostly.. I started doing FW because pubs see unbalanced badly.. Now you have spread ur sickness to fw...
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 217	Posted - 2015.07.19 02:25:00 - [24] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: They aren't loyalists, just followers... Of course they are. A large number of them have struggled through the down periods of Cal FW and were instrumental in being able to draw together a player base as well as attract the attentions of those corps who act as balance breakers. They're all still there too. Yes there are exceptions to every rule...
deezy dabest Evil Syndicate Alliance. 2	Posted - 2015.07.19 02:28:00 - [25] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: 1. Bring back "going negative if you fight against your own faction" 2. Give a VERY handsome reward for completing your LP bar in any given faction. I'm thinking an advanced bpo suit with all slots filled. Trust me its not EZ to get to fill your LP standing, but I propose we make it even harder (500,000 LP and 50 mil isk) to get the suit. Also YOU may ONLY have 1 loyalty suit at a time..This would completely negate the one sided qsyncs that have recently ruined fw for everyone. I never saw the negative thing removed but I never play against my factions so I do not know. If it was removed that definitely needs to be brought back and possibly made even more harsh. I can vouch that level 10 standings are a bit crazy. I have had Amarr at level 10 for quite some time and can honestly say that was the biggest grind in Dust. Assuming you do not ever get kicked it takes roughly 621 WINS to achieve level 10. At an average of 18 minutes per battle that is 186.3 hours just in wins. Depending on your faction of choice and how much you work with squads or queue syncs that can easily be multiplied by any number. I think this is very well deserving of a special reward much better than a roughly 7% pay increase per match. As far as what that reward should be, I think access to purchase officer weapons from that faction is my favorite idea. These would obviously come at a huge LP cost along with only unlocking at level 10. I think it is only fitting that the highest ranking members of said faction would have access to the highest level weapons of that faction. It really ties in nicely instead of just being a generic "here's another suit / skin". Considering the only source of officer weapons now is pretty much strongboxes that would also offset a little bit of the p2w feel that is only growing as of late. Remove NPC orbitals from FW. -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest.
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 219	Posted - 2015.07.19 02:38:00 - [26] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: 1. Bring back "going negative if you fight against your own faction" 2. Give a VERY handsome reward for completing your LP bar in any given faction. I'm thinking an advanced bpo suit with all slots filled. Trust me its not EZ to get to fill your LP standing, but I propose we make it even harder (500,000 LP and 50 mil isk) to get the suit. Also YOU may ONLY have 1 loyalty suit at a time..This would completely negate the one sided qsyncs that have recently ruined fw for everyone. I never saw the negative thing removed but I never play against my factions so I do not know. If it was removed that definitely needs to be brought back and possibly made even more harsh. I can vouch that level 10 standings are a bit crazy. I have had Amarr at level 10 for quite some time and can honestly say that was the biggest grind in Dust. Assuming you do not ever get kicked it takes roughly 621 WINS to achieve level 10. At an average of 18 minutes per battle that is 186.3 hours just in wins. Depending on your faction of choice and how much you work with squads or queue syncs that can easily be multiplied by any number. I think this is very well deserving of a special reward much better than a roughly 7% pay increase per match. As far as what that reward should be, I think access to purchase officer weapons from that faction is my favorite idea. These would obviously come at a huge LP cost along with only unlocking at level 10. I think it is only fitting that the highest ranking members of said faction would have access to the highest level weapons of that faction. It really ties in nicely instead of just being a generic "here's another suit / skin". Considering the only source of officer weapons now is pretty much strongboxes that would also offset a little bit of the p2w feel that is only growing as of late. I think we have a glut of officer weps already due to anyone with extra isk bought them all (pc corps that have huge amounts of isk) .. Maybe a proto suit? Think of the skin and the recognition in game of what that suit means.. Talk about Pay to win.. This would make a few players very rich at the cost of unlimited officer weps being sold to protostompers..
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.19 03:17:00 - [27] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: True Adamance wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: They aren't loyalists, just followers... Of course they are. A large number of them have struggled through the down periods of Cal FW and were instrumental in being able to draw together a player base as well as attract the attentions of those corps who act as balance breakers. They're all still there too. Yes there are exceptions to every rule... And those are what we call loyalists......almost by the very definition..... Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 222	Posted - 2015.07.19 03:23:00 - [28] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: True Adamance wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: They aren't loyalists, just followers... Of course they are. A large number of them have struggled through the down periods of Cal FW and were instrumental in being able to draw together a player base as well as attract the attentions of those corps who act as balance breakers. They're all still there too. Yes there are exceptions to every rule... And those are what we call loyalists......almost by the very definition..... So wtf is you point? That I'm wrong because you have a couple exception s? That's a fallacy.. Use logic 101
deezy dabest Evil Syndicate Alliance. 2	Posted - 2015.07.19 03:52:00 - [29] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: deezy dabest wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: 1. Bring back "going negative if you fight against your own faction" 2. Give a VERY handsome reward for completing your LP bar in any given faction. I'm thinking an advanced bpo suit with all slots filled. Trust me its not EZ to get to fill your LP standing, but I propose we make it even harder (500,000 LP and 50 mil isk) to get the suit. Also YOU may ONLY have 1 loyalty suit at a time..This would completely negate the one sided qsyncs that have recently ruined fw for everyone. I never saw the negative thing removed but I never play against my factions so I do not know. If it was removed that definitely needs to be brought back and possibly made even more harsh. I can vouch that level 10 standings are a bit crazy. I have had Amarr at level 10 for quite some time and can honestly say that was the biggest grind in Dust. Assuming you do not ever get kicked it takes roughly 621 WINS to achieve level 10. At an average of 18 minutes per battle that is 186.3 hours just in wins. Depending on your faction of choice and how much you work with squads or queue syncs that can easily be multiplied by any number. I think this is very well deserving of a special reward much better than a roughly 7% pay increase per match. As far as what that reward should be, I think access to purchase officer weapons from that faction is my favorite idea. These would obviously come at a huge LP cost along with only unlocking at level 10. I think it is only fitting that the highest ranking members of said faction would have access to the highest level weapons of that faction. It really ties in nicely instead of just being a generic "here's another suit / skin". Considering the only source of officer weapons now is pretty much strongboxes that would also offset a little bit of the p2w feel that is only growing as of late. I think we have a glut of officer weps already due to anyone with extra isk bought them all (pc corps that have huge amounts of isk) .. Maybe a proto suit? Think of the skin and the recognition in game of what that suit means.. Talk about Pay to win.. This would make a few players very rich at the cost of unlimited officer weps being sold to protostompers.. There is already unlimited officer weapons sold to proto stompers by way of people dumping $$$ in the game and that does not even require any grind. Also they would not be unlimited because as I noted they would still come at a high LP cost. How would giving people the option to buy 1 officer weapon of a specific type after 1 win be more OP than giving out a fully fitted free advance suit? If we are not going to get any actual benefit from having level 10 then we may as well just have the option to replace our LR with our FW standings. Remove NPC orbitals from FW. -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest.
No-one-ganks like-Gaston Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 329	Posted - 2015.07.19 04:05:00 - [30] - Quote What in the **** is going on in here.

Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 223	Posted - 2015.07.19 04:07:00 - [31] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: deezy dabest wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: 1. Bring back "going negative if you fight against your own faction" 2. Give a VERY handsome reward for completing your LP bar in any given faction. I'm thinking an advanced bpo suit with all slots filled. Trust me its not EZ to get to fill your LP standing, but I propose we make it even harder (500,000 LP and 50 mil isk) to get the suit. Also YOU may ONLY have 1 loyalty suit at a time..This would completely negate the one sided qsyncs that have recently ruined fw for everyone. I never saw the negative thing removed but I never play against my factions so I do not know. If it was removed that definitely needs to be brought back and possibly made even more harsh. I can vouch that level 10 standings are a bit crazy. I have had Amarr at level 10 for quite some time and can honestly say that was the biggest grind in Dust. Assuming you do not ever get kicked it takes roughly 621 WINS to achieve level 10. At an average of 18 minutes per battle that is 186.3 hours just in wins. Depending on your faction of choice and how much you work with squads or queue syncs that can easily be multiplied by any number. I think this is very well deserving of a special reward much better than a roughly 7% pay increase per match. As far as what that reward should be, I think access to purchase officer weapons from that faction is my favorite idea. These would obviously come at a huge LP cost along with only unlocking at level 10. I think it is only fitting that the highest ranking members of said faction would have access to the highest level weapons of that faction. It really ties in nicely instead of just being a generic "here's another suit / skin". Considering the only source of officer weapons now is pretty much strongboxes that would also offset a little bit of the p2w feel that is only growing as of late. I think we have a glut of officer weps already due to anyone with extra isk bought them all (pc corps that have huge amounts of isk) .. Maybe a proto suit? Think of the skin and the recognition in game of what that suit means.. Talk about Pay to win.. This would make a few players very rich at the cost of unlimited officer weps being sold to protostompers.. There is already unlimited officer weapons sold to proto stompers by way of people dumping $$$ in the game and that does not even require any grind. Also they would not be unlimited because as I noted they would still come at a high LP cost. How would giving people the option to buy 1 officer weapon of a specific type after 1 win be more OP than giving out a fully fitted free advance suit? If we are not going to get any actual benefit from having level 10 then we may as well just have the option to replace our LR with our FW standings. I don't hate your idea, but a bpo suit with a sic skin is a better idea.. And ANY additional officer weps ending up in the hands of protostompers is a bad thing.. Not to mention it adversely affects balance of dust In general.. What you are suggesting will make a bad problem worse..
Middas Betancore 631	Posted - 2015.07.19 04:13:00 - [32] - Quote If u wanna do better try not running solo in a serpent scout seriously....every time I've seen u for the last year ur dying alone in a corner in that yucky suit, with an owl, thats on fire I think perhaps a unique skin at lvl 5 an lvl 10 might be a cool if insubstantial reward, but only really rewards grinders I'd like to see a pledge/register for faction idea implemented and more specialist items in the fw stores And of course strategic deployment, aka choosing where to fight Onnamon 4-State Protectorate Logistics Support State Task Force: Caldari Fw Channel CPM2 Candidate
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 223	Posted - 2015.07.19 04:27:00 - [33] - Quote First of all when did this become about me doing better? That makes no sense, and second who the **** are you? And how would you know what suits I run? Also If you care to see me 1v1 just let me know ..lil bish
Middas Betancore 631	Posted - 2015.07.19 04:40:00 - [34] - Quote This seems to be when the gal were winning everything was fine, now u are losing most matches, fw is broke Try to deny, but ur being quite vocal after only suffering grievous losses, other than sqd deploy there's been no other real reason y ur suddenly concerned Yeah more incentives for fw would be great, but the mode is hardly "broken" I know what suits you run cos again I see u die in a corner with said burning owl attached As for the pro/anti grind, I try to keep in mind that fw is about all players an not just those doing 1 faction fw every session so putting in endgame goals isn't going to appeal to everyone, I'm ok with grinding personally, just hit cal 9 and am rarely seen outside of CFW for a long time As for who I am and if I actually play dust.... I'll just let that one hang Onnamon 4-State Protectorate Logistics Support State Task Force: Caldari Fw Channel CPM2 Candidate
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 223	Posted - 2015.07.19 04:44:00 - [35] - Quote Middas Betancore wrote: This seems to be when the gal were winning everything was fine, now u are losing most matches, fw is broke Try to deny, but ur being quite vocal after only suffering grievous losses, other than sqd deploy there's been no other real reason y ur suddenly concerned Yeah more incentives for fw would be great, but the mode is hardly "broken" I know what suits you run cos again I see u die in a corner with said burning owl attached As for the pro/anti grind, I try to keep in mind that fw is about all players an not just those doing 1 faction fw every session so putting in endgame goals isn't going to appeal to everyone, I'm ok with grinding personally, just hit cal 9 and am rarely seen outside of CFW for a long time As for who I am and if I actually play dust.... I'll just let that one hang Once again if you want to reduce this thread to a pissing match, see me 1v1 scrub
Golden Day Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2015.07.19 04:59:00 - [36] - Quote Lol Middas would wreck you Smoky =ƒÿü Im just a glorified blueberry
Aidualc LATINOS KILLERS CORP RUST415 468	Posted - 2015.07.19 05:01:00 - [37] - Quote The real problems in FW ... are: Lag in a few maps. (Rattati is working on this !) People Quiting after see a strong enemy and... just search "easy battles" Random Berries... Sometimes you go 8 squad members... and 8 randomberies VS 16 Full Corp (needs to be locket the access until you got almost 10,000,000 SP...) The reward if you loose... (it's ok... don't give me points to the faction... but give me at last 25% or 30% of the LP... If my level is level 7... and I get 1,650 LP for a win... give me 412 LP if I loose.. not 330 (20%).... -- Ecce Initio -- Tomate Pote -- *Respectu, Honorem, Value, Unionem*******
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 224	Posted - 2015.07.19 05:01:00 - [38] - Quote Golden Day wrote: Lol Middas would wreck you Smoky =ƒÿü Doubtful.. But possible I guess, that's why I said lets find out..
Zan Azikuchi G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance 249	Posted - 2015.07.19 05:04:00 - [39] - Quote Smoky... Calm yourself, you'll pop a blood vessel, besides, everything I've read from you, practically IS a pissing match. Sincerely Smoky, you had this coming a mile away, every time GFW won, it was always a stomp. Constantly, a stomp. How can you say that this isn't revenge for all the crap you put CFW player's through? Those who, clearly, were loyalist's, those who grinded just as hard, if not harder, just to win a battle. If you can't stand or can't put up with it, fine, but this was bound to happen, with GFW winning constantly, non stop. You may have been the reason GFW never lost "90%" of their matches, but you should have never expected this to keep going, never should have thought "we're the ultimate heroes of this game". You put, US through hell? We'll put YOU through hell, that's all it's come down to. When there is light, shadow's lurk and fear reign's... Yet by the blade of knight's, mankind, was given hope.
Golden Day Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2015.07.19 05:04:00 - [40] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: Golden Day wrote: Lol Middas would wreck you Smoky =ƒÿü Doubtful.. But possible I guess, that's why I said lets find out.. I'm serious Middas could wreck you Im just a glorified blueberry

Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 224	Posted - 2015.07.19 05:05:00 - [41] - Quote Aidualc wrote: The real problems in FW ... are: Lag in a few maps. (Rattati is working on this !) People Quiting after see a strong enemy and... just search "easy battles" Random Berries... Sometimes you go 8 squad members... and 8 randomberies VS 16 Full Corp (needs to be locket the access until you got almost 10,000,000 SP...) The reward if you loose... (it's ok... don't give me points to the faction... but give me at last 25% or 30% of the LP... If my level is level 7... and I get 1,650 LP for a win... give me 412 LP if I loose.. not 330 (20%).... Lag in a few maps? How long does it take to remove the lag city socket? And you think upping the reward for not being loyal is the "real fix" lol..
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 224	Posted - 2015.07.19 05:10:00 - [42] - Quote Golden Day wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: Golden Day wrote: Lol Middas would wreck you Smoky =ƒÿü Doubtful.. But possible I guess, that's why I said lets find out.. I'm serious Middas could wreck you Bud I held the #1 spot in the world playing Rainbow six (a real fps) for many years, my fast twitch and tactics are unparalleled.. Not to mention im an actual soldier, not just a forum warrior..I'm not bragging but I doubt many scouts can go for 60kills with a shotty, while hacking all your bases and hunting you links etc...But hey maybe you know something I don't? Like how much ISK he's spending on his officer gear? If he was capable of taking me to school solo I'd remember his name..
Golden Day Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2015.07.19 05:17:00 - [43] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: Golden Day wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: Golden Day wrote: Lol Middas would wreck you Smoky =ƒÿü Doubtful.. But possible I guess, that's why I said lets find out.. I'm serious Middas could wreck you Bud I held the #1 spot in the world playing Rainbow six (a real fps) for many years, my fast twitch and tactics are unparalleled.. Not to mention im an actual soldier, not just a forum warrior..I'm not bragging but I doubt many scouts can go for 60kills with a shotty, while hacking all your bases and hunting you links etc...But hey maybe you know something I don't? Like how much ISK he's spending on his officer gear? If he was capable of taking me to school solo I'd remember his name.. Good for you want a cookie? Im just a glorified blueberry
No-one-ganks like-Gaston Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 331	Posted - 2015.07.19 05:21:00 - [44] - Quote Smokey. I have taken absolutely nothing out of this entire thread except that god damn can you whine and you don't seem to actually know what you're talking about. Drink some water, man, and go see a doctor, 'cus you've been pissing all over the place and I'm worried you'll pass out soon.
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 224	Posted - 2015.07.19 05:21:00 - [45] - Quote Golden Day wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: Golden Day wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: Golden Day wrote: Lol Middas would wreck you Smoky =ƒÿü Doubtful.. But possible I guess, that's why I said lets find out.. I'm serious Middas could wreck you Bud I held the #1 spot in the world playing Rainbow six (a real fps) for many years, my fast twitch and tactics are unparalleled.. Not to mention im an actual soldier, not just a forum warrior..I'm not bragging but I doubt many scouts can go for 60kills with a shotty, while hacking all your bases and hunting you links etc...But hey maybe you know something I don't? Like how much ISK he's spending on his officer gear? If he was capable of taking me to school solo I'd remember his name.. Good for you want a cookie? Is that part of the OP package ? If so I'll take a dozen ..
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 224	Posted - 2015.07.19 05:24:00 - [46] - Quote No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Smokey. I have taken absolutely nothing out of this entire thread except that god damn can you whine and you don't seem to actually know what you're talking about. Drink some water, man, and go see a doctor, 'cus you've been pissing all over the place and I'm worried you'll pass out soon. Learn to read then, I stated my point very clearly sorry ur not hooked on phonics..
Zan Azikuchi G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance 250	Posted - 2015.07.19 05:25:00 - [47] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: Golden Day wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: Golden Day wrote: Lol Middas would wreck you Smoky =ƒÿü Doubtful.. But possible I guess, that's why I said lets find out.. I'm serious Middas could wreck you Bud I held the #1 spot in the world playing Rainbow six (a real fps) for many years, my fast twitch and tactics are unparalleled.. Not to mention im an actual soldier, not just a forum warrior..I'm not bragging but I doubt many scouts can go for 60kills with a shotty, while hacking all your bases and hunting you links etc...But hey maybe you know something I don't? Like how much ISK he's spending on his officer gear? If he was capable of taking me to school solo I'd remember his name.. And here I thought U.S. soldier's were more dignified...... Smoky, WWll soldier's would be rolling in their grave's right now... Think about this, extremely, hard..... What's the point of complaining over the forum's about something you did to the CFW player's? How long and how many time's did you guys steam roll caldari factional? You're sitting here on your backside having a pissing match over the forum's of a game, who's balance is perceived by many, to be "GIT GUD" or "PTFO". Seriously Smoky, it's pretty clear, this game has gone down hill for you, so how 'bout I give you the secret to EVENTUALLY, being the winner? Commit. When there is light, shadow's lurk and fear reign's... Yet by the blade of knight's, mankind, was given hope.
Golden Day Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2015.07.19 05:25:00 - [48] - Quote No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Smokey. I have taken absolutely nothing out of this entire thread except that god damn can you whine and you don't seem to actually know what you're talking about. Drink some water, man, and go see a doctor, 'cus you've been pissing all over the place and I'm worried you'll pass out soon. I'm starting to think he may be lady hellfire's alt... Im just a glorified blueberry
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 224	Posted - 2015.07.19 05:27:00 - [49] - Quote Golden Day wrote: No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Smokey. I have taken absolutely nothing out of this entire thread except that god damn can you whine and you don't seem to actually know what you're talking about. Drink some water, man, and go see a doctor, 'cus you've been pissing all over the place and I'm worried you'll pass out soon. I'm starting to think he may be lady hellfire's alt... Hmm I might be ur dads alt.. Cuz ur mom keeps calling me.. Asking for child support isk..
Zan Azikuchi G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance 251	Posted - 2015.07.19 05:30:00 - [50] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: Golden Day wrote: No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Smokey. I have taken absolutely nothing out of this entire thread except that god damn can you whine and you don't seem to actually know what you're talking about. Drink some water, man, and go see a doctor, 'cus you've been pissing all over the place and I'm worried you'll pass out soon. I'm starting to think he may be lady hellfire's alt... Hmm I might be ur dads alt.. Cuz ur mom keeps calling me.. Asking for child support isk.. #FacepalmOmigodwhydidyurparentsletyouhaveyourownlife? When there is light, shadow's lurk and fear reign's... Yet by the blade of knight's, mankind, was given hope.

Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 225	Posted - 2015.07.19 05:31:00 - [51] - Quote Zan Azikuchi wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: Golden Day wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: [quote=Golden Day]Lol Middas would wreck you Smoky =ƒÿü Doubtful.. But possible I guess, that's why I said lets find out.. I'm serious Middas could wreck you Bud I held the #1 spot in the world playing Rainbow six (a real fps) for many years, my fast twitch and tactics are unparalleled.. Not to mention im an actual soldier, not just a forum warrior..I'm not bragging but I doubt many scouts can go for 60kills with a shotty, while hacking all your bases and hunting you links etc...But hey maybe you know something I don't? Like how much ISK he's spending on his officer gear? If he was capable of taking me to school solo I'd remember his name.. And here I thought U.S. soldier's were more dignified...... Smoky, WWll soldier's would be rolling in their grave's right now... Think about this, extremely, hard..... What's the point of complaining over the forum's about something you did to the CFW player's? How long and how many time's did you guys steam roll caldari factional? You're sitting here on your backside having a pissing match over the forum's of a game, who's balance is perceived by many, to be "GIT GUD" or "PTFO". Seriously Smoky, it's pretty clear, this game has gone down hill for you, so how 'bout I give you the secret to EVENTUALLY, being the winner? Sorry, no time to make you famous.. The changes I proposed benefit us all not just me..
No-one-ganks like-Gaston Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 331	Posted - 2015.07.19 05:32:00 - [52] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Smokey. I have taken absolutely nothing out of this entire thread except that god damn can you whine and you don't seem to actually know what you're talking about. Drink some water, man, and go see a doctor, 'cus you've been pissing all over the place and I'm worried you'll pass out soon. Learn to read then, I stated my point very clearly sorry ur not hooked on phonics.. Madame, please remove whatever blockage you may have inserted into thine irritated posterior post haste so that you may better hear what I dost have to say to thee. No one cares about your KD/R, how you do in other games, your real life, or what you think about the game. I have been here barely seven or eight months and I can tell your opinion is trash. And before any sort of '1v1 me scrub' happens, no. I know I'd lose. I'm a support player, I'm no good at the pewpew.
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 225	Posted - 2015.07.19 05:35:00 - [53] - Quote No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Smokey. I have taken absolutely nothing out of this entire thread except that god damn can you whine and you don't seem to actually know what you're talking about. Drink some water, man, and go see a doctor, 'cus you've been pissing all over the place and I'm worried you'll pass out soon. Learn to read then, I stated my point very clearly sorry ur not hooked on phonics.. Madame, please remove whatever blockage you may have inserted into thine irritated posterior post haste so that you may better hear what I dost have to say to thee. No one cares about your KD/R, how you do in other games, your real life, or what you think about the game. I have been here barely seven or eight months and I can tell your opinion is trash. And before any sort of '1v1 me scrub' happens, no. I know I'd lose. I'm a support player, I'm no good at the pewpew. You are however, very good at running ur manpleaser.. Anyone else wanna take a shot at me for stating the obvious?
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 818	Posted - 2015.07.19 05:37:00 - [54] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: Zan Azikuchi wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: Zan Azikuchi wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: 1. Bring back "going negative if you fight against your own faction" 2. Give a VERY handsome reward for completing your LP bar in any given faction. I'm thinking an advanced bpo suit with all slots filled. Trust me its not EZ to get to fill your LP standing, but I propose we make it even harder (500,000 LP and 50 mil isk) to get the suit. Also YOU may ONLY have 1 loyalty suit at a time..This would completely negate the one sided qsyncs that have recently ruined fw for everyone. 3. We need 16 man sqds I'm done with dust until I see this happen.. It's impossible to find an evenly matched battle ATM. The people who used to be die hard loyalists have all quit in disgust. I really don't care I'm going to be playing the Division exclusively the second its released. Done wasting my life fighting the over 90% scr bolt pistol punks that run dust... Have fun playing Division! You sound like you might be running a scr/bolt pistol on a min assault? Like 90% of dust? Caldari Assault with Rail Rifle and BP, want to make another assumption, good sir? So I missed guessing your exact loadout only because you decided to use the #2 most op wep that gets bonus for ur suit? Lol thanks for confirming your scrub status.. How does running a racial suit to get a reload bonus make you scrubby? You sir seem very salty. Caldari Loyalist. ( -í° -£-û -í°) No.
Zan Azikuchi G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance 251	Posted - 2015.07.19 05:39:00 - [55] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: 1. Bring back "going negative if you fight against your own faction" 2. Give a VERY handsome reward for completing your LP bar in any given faction. I'm thinking an advanced bpo suit with all slots filled. Trust me its not EZ to get to fill your LP standing, but I propose we make it even harder (500,000 LP and 50 mil isk) to get the suit. Also YOU may ONLY have 1 loyalty suit at a time..This would completely negate the one sided qsyncs that have recently ruined fw for everyone. 3. We need 16 man sqds I'm done with dust until I see this happen.. It's impossible to find an evenly matched battle ATM. The people who used to be die hard loyalists have all quit in disgust. I really don't care I'm going to be playing the Division exclusively the second its released. Done wasting my life fighting the over 90% scr bolt pistol punks that run dust... 1. Doable, though no one would care. 2.Sure handsome reward, It's already made to be between basic and adv, unless you want them buffed to be the same as adv, then, YES PLEASE. No please to increase LP or ISK, caldari suit's are only their best at Proto level, due to CPU and PG. Only having 1 suit at a time? Like only 1 account having 1 suit? What's the point, its not like we have A.I. walking around with our suit, smashing you down. And it won't change one sided qsync's as they'd still be proto stomps. 3.Player base, if you need to win so badly, side up with Nyain Clan, or anyone from Phoenix Federation. Once more, enjoy playing Division, you're not getting your way, and it won't benefit anyone, since most player's aren't gonna care for FW in the first place, remember, it doesn't give real money or isk . When there is light, shadow's lurk and fear reign's... Yet by the blade of knight's, mankind, was given hope.
No-one-ganks like-Gaston Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 331	Posted - 2015.07.19 05:42:00 - [56] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Smokey. I have taken absolutely nothing out of this entire thread except that god damn can you whine and you don't seem to actually know what you're talking about. Drink some water, man, and go see a doctor, 'cus you've been pissing all over the place and I'm worried you'll pass out soon. Learn to read then, I stated my point very clearly sorry ur not hooked on phonics.. Madame, please remove whatever blockage you may have inserted into thine irritated posterior post haste so that you may better hear what I dost have to say to thee. No one cares about your KD/R, how you do in other games, your real life, or what you think about the game. I have been here barely seven or eight months and I can tell your opinion is trash. And before any sort of '1v1 me scrub' happens, no. I know I'd lose. I'm a support player, I'm no good at the pewpew. You are however, very good at running ur manpleaser.. Anyone else wanna take a shot at me for stating the obvious? Considering I'm actually gay, you're gonna have to work a lot harder than implying I put man parts into my mouth to insult me.
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 225	Posted - 2015.07.19 05:53:00 - [57] - Quote Zan Azikuchi wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: 1. Bring back "going negative if you fight against your own faction" 2. Give a VERY handsome reward for completing your LP bar in any given faction. I'm thinking an advanced bpo suit with all slots filled. Trust me its not EZ to get to fill your LP standing, but I propose we make it even harder (500,000 LP and 50 mil isk) to get the suit. Also YOU may ONLY have 1 loyalty suit at a time..This would completely negate the one sided qsyncs that have recently ruined fw for everyone. 3. We need 16 man sqds I'm done with dust until I see this happen.. It's impossible to find an evenly matched battle ATM. The people who used to be die hard loyalists have all quit in disgust. I really don't care I'm going to be playing the Division exclusively the second its released. Done wasting my life fighting the over 90% scr bolt pistol punks that run dust... 1. Doable, though no one would care. 2.Sure handsome reward, It's already made to be between basic and adv, unless you want them buffed to be the same as adv, then, YES PLEASE. No please to increase LP or ISK, caldari suit's are only their best at Proto level, due to CPU and PG. Only having 1 suit at a time? Like only 1 account having 1 suit? What's the point, its not like we have A.I. walking around with our suit, smashing you down. And it won't change one sided qsync's as they'd still be proto stomps. 3.Player base, if you need to win so badly, side up with Nyain Clan, or anyone from Phoenix Federation. Once more, enjoy playing Division, you're not getting your way, and it won't benefit anyone, since most player's aren't gonna care for FW in the first place, remember, it doesn't give real money or isk . Forum warrior's: keep it up I'm tiring of responding.. These arguments don't work on me.. Everyone know I'm team player and strive only for wins not points.. I really think it should be a proto suit but threw out the advanced because there would be little reason to use anything other than that suit.. And furthermore I don't really accept that GFW was ever EZ mode..it was simply solos vs solos until STF started syncing and Kirk came around and organized a sync in response.. Hell I didn't even join the gal channel until STF started syncing .. I'm not the one chump
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 225	Posted - 2015.07.19 05:54:00 - [58] - Quote Zan Azikuchi wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: 1. Bring back "going negative if you fight against your own faction" 2. Give a VERY handsome reward for completing your LP bar in any given faction. I'm thinking an advanced bpo suit with all slots filled. Trust me its not EZ to get to fill your LP standing, but I propose we make it even harder (500,000 LP and 50 mil isk) to get the suit. Also YOU may ONLY have 1 loyalty suit at a time..This would completely negate the one sided qsyncs that have recently ruined fw for everyone. 3. We need 16 man sqds I'm done with dust until I see this happen.. It's impossible to find an evenly matched battle ATM. The people who used to be die hard loyalists have all quit in disgust. I really don't care I'm going to be playing the Division exclusively the second its released. Done wasting my life fighting the over 90% scr bolt pistol punks that run dust... 1. Doable, though no one would care. 2.Sure handsome reward, It's already made to be between basic and adv, unless you want them buffed to be the same as adv, then, YES PLEASE. No please to increase LP or ISK, caldari suit's are only their best at Proto level, due to CPU and PG. Only having 1 suit at a time? Like only 1 account having 1 suit? What's the point, its not like we have A.I. walking around with our suit, smashing you down. And it won't change one sided qsync's as they'd still be proto stomps. 3.Player base, if you need to win so badly, side up with Nyain Clan, or anyone from Phoenix Federation. Once more, enjoy playing Division, you're not getting your way, and it won't benefit anyone, since most player's aren't gonna care for FW in the first place, remember, it doesn't give real money or isk . Forum warrior's: keep it up I'm tiring of responding.. These arguments don't work on me.. Everyone know I'm team player and strive only for wins not points.. I really think it should be a proto suit but threw out the advanced because there would be little reason to use anything other than that suit.. And furthermore I don't really accept that GFW was ever EZ mode..it was simply solos vs solos until STF started syncing and Kirk came around and organized a sync in response.. Hell I didn't even join the gal channel until STF started syncing .. I'm not the one chump
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.07.19 05:56:00 - [59] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: Forum warrior's: keep it up I'm tiring of responding.. These arguments don't work on me.. Everyone know I'm team player and strive only for wins not points.. I really think it should be a proto suit but threw out the advanced because there would be little reason to use anything other than that suit.. And furthermore I don't really accept that GFW was ever EZ mode..it was simply solos vs solos until STF started syncing and Kirk came around and organized a sync in response.. Hell I didn't even join the gal channel until STF started syncing .. I'm not the one chump I agree, we should make FW solo queue only because those pesky syncers shouldn't play in Dust 514's most competitive game-mode outside of PC. Little cretins can go back to Molden He- Oh. I've been made. Volunteer For The PSD! Design A SKIN 2
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 225	Posted - 2015.07.19 06:05:00 - [60] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: Forum warrior's: keep it up I'm tiring of responding.. These arguments don't work on me.. Everyone know I'm team player and strive only for wins not points.. I really think it should be a proto suit but threw out the advanced because there would be little reason to use anything other than that suit.. And furthermore I don't really accept that GFW was ever EZ mode..it was simply solos vs solos until STF started syncing and Kirk came around and organized a sync in response.. Hell I didn't even join the gal channel until STF started syncing .. I'm not the one chump I agree, we should make FW solo queue only because those pesky syncers shouldn't play in Dust 514's most competitive game-mode outside of PC. Little cretins can go back to Molden He- Oh. I've been made. Who the hell said make fw solo queues? I said 16 man sqds you dumbass

Middas Betancore 633	Posted - 2015.07.19 06:05:00 - [61] - Quote Gfw wasn't ever easy mode?? u almost killed all Caldari with laughter on that one Onnamon 4-State Protectorate Logistics Support State Task Force: Caldari Fw Channel CPM2 Candidate
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 225	Posted - 2015.07.19 06:08:00 - [62] - Quote Just stfu already, I can't help you think
Zan Azikuchi G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance 251	Posted - 2015.07.19 06:08:00 - [63] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: Zan Azikuchi wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: 1. Bring back "going negative if you fight against your own faction" 2. Give a VERY handsome reward for completing your LP bar in any given faction. I'm thinking an advanced bpo suit with all slots filled. Trust me its not EZ to get to fill your LP standing, but I propose we make it even harder (500,000 LP and 50 mil isk) to get the suit. Also YOU may ONLY have 1 loyalty suit at a time..This would completely negate the one sided qsyncs that have recently ruined fw for everyone. 3. We need 16 man sqds I'm done with dust until I see this happen.. It's impossible to find an evenly matched battle ATM. The people who used to be die hard loyalists have all quit in disgust. I really don't care I'm going to be playing the Division exclusively the second its released. Done wasting my life fighting the over 90% scr bolt pistol punks that run dust... 1. Doable, though no one would care. 2.Sure handsome reward, It's already made to be between basic and adv, unless you want them buffed to be the same as adv, then, YES PLEASE. No please to increase LP or ISK, caldari suit's are only their best at Proto level, due to CPU and PG. Only having 1 suit at a time? Like only 1 account having 1 suit? What's the point, its not like we have A.I. walking around with our suit, smashing you down. And it won't change one sided qsync's as they'd still be proto stomps. 3.Player base, if you need to win so badly, side up with Nyain Clan, or anyone from Phoenix Federation. Once more, enjoy playing Division, you're not getting your way, and it won't benefit anyone, since most player's aren't gonna care for FW in the first place, remember, it doesn't give real money or isk . Forum warrior's: keep it up I'm tiring of responding.. These arguments don't work on me.. Everyone know I'm team player and strive only for wins not points.. I really think it should be a proto suit but threw out the advanced because there would be little reason to use anything other than that suit.. And furthermore I don't really accept that GFW was ever EZ mode..it was simply solos vs solos until STF started syncing and Kirk came around and organized a sync in response.. Hell I didn't even join the gal channel until STF started syncing . if it was ever EZ mode its cuz I was on the team solo in nearly every GFW match fought in the last 6/months..I'm not the one chump Actually, that comment, I was done trolling or rather, making distasteful joke's. I was stating cold hard fact's about the community, their not gonna give a salarian's **** about what you say or want, and certainly won't care if these change's went through, fact is, player's won't come back to GFW, if anything, the stomping would only continue. If you understood anything about my comment prior, you'd know that Gallente are in a complete mess right now. Making us go in solo would promote q-syncing more, 8 man squad's reduces our need to. Mostly because Gallente, formerly like Caldari, are like chicken's with their heads cut-off. When there is light, shadow's lurk and fear reign's... Yet by the blade of knight's, mankind, was given hope.
nelo kazuma Ecce Initio RLC. RUST415 309	Posted - 2015.07.19 06:09:00 - [64] - Quote Ohh smokey remeber when u came to the cal chat n said cal aint ** n we stomped u n everyone sent u a message saying gal aint 3 matches in a row lol yea middas was there for that he our best ob pilot and has stomped u more times than I can count on his dust toon. Lol now if u wanna play dumb n say "who r u nelo" im the guy who tea bagged u almost everytime I kill u so u dnt forget FOR THE STATE ^(-_-) Cal Loyalist For Life**
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 225	Posted - 2015.07.19 06:13:00 - [65] - Quote nelo kazuma wrote: Ohh smokey remeber when u came to the cal chat n said cal aint ** n we stomped u n everyone sent u a message saying gal aint 3 matches in a row lol yea middas was there for that he our best ob pilot and has stomped u more times than I can count on his dust toon. Lol now if u wanna play dumb n say "who r u nelo" im the guy who tea bagged u almost everytime I kill u so u dnt forget Yes I remember the time I was trying to kick start fw by talking **, and was actually laughing my ass off at all that hatemail.. BUT I was solo, and you guys brought allur best synced up stompers to kill 1 guy.. That makes him better than me? Hiding behind a sync? Lol see me 1v1
No-one-ganks like-Gaston Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 332	Posted - 2015.07.19 06:15:00 - [66] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: nelo kazuma wrote: Ohh smokey remeber when u came to the cal chat n said cal aint ** n we stomped u n everyone sent u a message saying gal aint 3 matches in a row lol yea middas was there for that he our best ob pilot and has stomped u more times than I can count on his dust toon. Lol now if u wanna play dumb n say "who r u nelo" im the guy who tea bagged u almost everytime I kill u so u dnt forget Yes I remember the time I was trying to kick start fw by talking **, and was actually laughing my ass off at all that hatemail.. BUT I was solo, and you guys brought allur best synced up stompers to kill 1 guy.. That makes him better than me? Hiding behind a sync? Lol see me 1v1 You're an idiot if you think FWs need kickstarting anymore. I've seen FWs going constantly ever since 8 man squads were implemented. Just admit you were talking trash and got stomped in response.
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 225	Posted - 2015.07.19 06:19:00 - [67] - Quote No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: nelo kazuma wrote: Ohh smokey remeber when u came to the cal chat n said cal aint ** n we stomped u n everyone sent u a message saying gal aint 3 matches in a row lol yea middas was there for that he our best ob pilot and has stomped u more times than I can count on his dust toon. Lol now if u wanna play dumb n say "who r u nelo" im the guy who tea bagged u almost everytime I kill u so u dnt forget Yes I remember the time I was trying to kick start fw by talking , and was actually laughing my ass off at all that hatemail.. BUT I was solo, and you guys brought allur best synced up stompers to kill 1 guy.. That makes him better than me? Hiding behind a sync? Lol see me 1v1 You're an idiot if you think FWs need kickstarting anymore. I've seen FWs going constantly ever since 8 man squads were implemented. Just admit you were talking trash and got stomped in response. This was some time ago, and yes it was a kick start as I've done before and sincLol (ask Kirk or any other GFW regulars). As was mentioned earlier.. As demonstrated here.. If I wanted to talk I would come up with something alot better than Caldari ain't **.. Lol ..but yes I had to eat my words on that one.. Feel better? Good, now eat me..and nelo you might be a good player, but you rely on fotm weps so I guess we'll never know..
No-one-ganks like-Gaston Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 332	Posted - 2015.07.19 06:25:00 - [68] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: nelo kazuma wrote: Ohh smokey remeber when u came to the cal chat n said cal aint ** n we stomped u n everyone sent u a message saying gal aint 3 matches in a row lol yea middas was there for that he our best ob pilot and has stomped u more times than I can count on his dust toon. Lol now if u wanna play dumb n say "who r u nelo" im the guy who tea bagged u almost everytime I kill u so u dnt forget Yes I remember the time I was trying to kick start fw by talking , and was actually laughing my ass off at all that hatemail.. BUT I was solo, and you guys brought allur best synced up stompers to kill 1 guy.. That makes him better than me? Hiding behind a sync? Lol see me 1v1 You're an idiot if you think FWs need kickstarting anymore. I've seen FWs going constantly ever since 8 man squads were implemented. Just admit you were talking trash and got stomped in response. This was some time ago, and yes it was a kick start as I've done before and since .. As was mentioned earlier.. As demonstrated here.. If I wanted to talk I would come up with something alot better than Caldari ain't **.. Lol You have no smack game, though. Literally the best insults you've come up with here are 'you're a scrub, 1v1 me' and 'you're gay'. And considering the gay insult was directed at someone who is actually gay, that's pretty much 50% of your ammo taken away from you. I realize you come primarily from a community of shooters and telling people they're bad at the game and they're gay is all you're used to spilling out, but maybe I can help you out. I'm gay and I still banged your mom. There, now try to do one better. We can get through this. Together.
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 225	Posted - 2015.07.19 06:30:00 - [69] - Quote No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: nelo kazuma wrote: Ohh smokey remeber when u came to the cal chat n said cal aint ** n we stomped u n everyone sent u a message saying gal aint 3 matches in a row lol yea middas was there for that he our best ob pilot and has stomped u more times than I can count on his dust toon. Lol now if u wanna play dumb n say "who r u nelo" im the guy who tea bagged u almost everytime I kill u so u dnt forget Yes I remember the time I was trying to kick start fw by talking , and was actually laughing my ass off at all that hatemail.. BUT I was solo, and you guys brought allur best synced up stompers to kill 1 guy.. That makes him better than me? Hiding behind a sync? Lol see me 1v1 You're an idiot if you think FWs need kickstarting anymore. I've seen FWs going constantly ever since 8 man squads were implemented. Just admit you were talking trash and got stomped in response. This was some time ago, and yes it was a kick start as I've done before and since .. As was mentioned earlier.. As demonstrated here.. If I wanted to talk I would come up with something alot better than Caldari ain't **.. Lol You have no smack game, though. Literally the best insults you've come up with here are 'you're a scrub, 1v1 me' and 'you're gay'. And considering the gay insult was directed at someone who is actually gay, that's pretty much 50% of your ammo taken away from you. I realize you come primarily from a community of shooters and telling people they're bad at the game and they're gay is all you're used to spilling out, but maybe I can help you out. I'm gay and I still banged your mom. There, now try to do one better. We can get through this. Together. Hmm i don't mind calling a horse by its name, but I'm pretty sure I haven't accused anyone of being gay today.. And since that was the backbone of ur post, your ghey, and God hates you.. Better?
Golden Day Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2015.07.19 06:33:00 - [70] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: nelo kazuma wrote: Ohh smokey remeber when u came to the cal chat n said cal aint ** n we stomped u n everyone sent u a message saying gal aint 3 matches in a row lol yea middas was there for that he our best ob pilot and has stomped u more times than I can count on his dust toon. Lol now if u wanna play dumb n say "who r u nelo" im the guy who tea bagged u almost everytime I kill u so u dnt forget Yes I remember the time I was trying to kick start fw by talking , and was actually laughing my ass off at all that hatemail.. BUT I was solo, and you guys brought allur best synced up stompers to kill 1 guy.. That makes him better than me? Hiding behind a sync? Lol see me 1v1 You're an idiot if you think FWs need kickstarting anymore. I've seen FWs going constantly ever since 8 man squads were implemented. Just admit you were talking trash and got stomped in response. This was some time ago, and yes it was a kick start as I've done before and sincLol (ask Kirk or any other GFW regulars). As was mentioned earlier.. As demonstrated here.. If I wanted to talk I would come up with something alot better than Caldari ain't **.. Lol ..but yes I had to eat my words on that one.. Feel better? Good, now eat me..and nelo you might be a good player, but you rely on fotm weps so I guess we'll never know.. Bro you do know they've been using it even before it was fotm....you're salty Im just a glorified blueberry

demonkiller 12 TERRA R1SING New Eden's Heros 907	Posted - 2015.07.19 06:48:00 - [71] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: 1. Bring back "going negative if you fight against your own faction" 2. Give a VERY handsome reward for completing your LP bar in any given faction. I'm thinking an advanced bpo suit with all slots filled. Trust me its not EZ to get to fill your LP standing, but I propose we make it even harder (500,000 LP and 50 mil isk) to get the suit. Also YOU may ONLY have 1 loyalty suit at a time..This would completely negate the one sided qsyncs that have recently ruined fw for everyone. 3. We need 16 man sqds I'm done with dust until I see this happen.. It's impossible to find an evenly matched battle ATM. The people who used to be die hard loyalists have all quit in disgust. I really don't care I'm going to be playing the Division exclusively the second its released. Done wasting my life fighting the over 90% scr bolt pistol punks that run dust... any time i see you on gallente you have barely half a squad and caldari always has 2 squads either que syncing or just ending up in the same match, is this another thread about how teamwork is OP and needs a nerf? and if you increased the cost of APEX, NO ONE WOULD WANT THEM, YOU CAN LITERALLY BUY 3333 PROTO SUITS
No-one-ganks like-Gaston Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 332	Posted - 2015.07.19 06:56:00 - [72] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: Hmm i don't mind calling a horse by its name, but I'm pretty sure I haven't accused anyone of being gay today.. And since that was the backbone of ur post, your ghey, and God hates you.. Better? Nnnnthis, right here. Smoky The Bear wrote: You are however, very good at running ur manpleaser.. And im also a support player except I support my team by making sure we have links,hacking,cutting off supply lines.. I just happen to be a beast fps'r...You barking up the wrong tree talkig ** bout KDR.. That stat is irrevalent in dust.. How do you support your team? Repping some heavy and point whoring? Anyone else wanna take a shot at me for stating the obvious? You referred to my mouth as a 'manpleaser'. Therefor implying that I sucked the ding dang ding dong. Therefor implying gay. You edited it, though. Originally it only said I ran my 'manpleaser' and asked if anyone wanted to take a shot at you for stating the obvious. Implying 'yeah, I called him gay, what, you wanna fight about it'. Even with the edited extra content, your 'take a shot for stating the obvious' line doesn't make sense with anything else you said, because nothing else said correlates with something that's supposed to be 'obvious'. Unless it's supposed to be 'obvious' that I point *** as a logi, even though there's nothing at all even hinting that I do. And no, you and I support in much the same ways, assuming you're actually trying to support your team and not just going for the points. Destroying enemy up-links, placing my own, hacking objectives and installations, etc. I actually haven't logi'd much in a couple of weeks. I generally only go logi nowadays if we're in a close quarters domination match, since for some reason I'm one of the only logis my team ever has and we won't stand a chance if we don't keep the bouncers at the door in shape. But I always take the time to give everyone lacking armor some logi loving, too, and pull out my gun if needed just as a scare tactic, even if I'm not good with it. A few bullets keeps most people back. If we've got enough logis, though, I like to go forge gunner and one-shot the red heavies that think they can just barge in whenever they want. And no, your tactics are still poor. The 'God hates gays' thing is old and played out. Get creative with your remarks. My link to the salty .gif is still better than anything you've come up with so far, and I found that with idle browsing on imgur. It's like you aren't even trying to improve.
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 225	Posted - 2015.07.19 06:58:00 - [73] - Quote demonkiller 12 wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: 1. Bring back "going negative if you fight against your own faction" 2. Give a VERY handsome reward for completing your LP bar in any given faction. I'm thinking an advanced bpo suit with all slots filled. Trust me its not EZ to get to fill your LP standing, but I propose we make it even harder (500,000 LP and 50 mil isk) to get the suit. Also YOU may ONLY have 1 loyalty suit at a time..This would completely negate the one sided qsyncs that have recently ruined fw for everyone. 3. We need 16 man sqds I'm done with dust until I see this happen.. It's impossible to find an evenly matched battle ATM. The people who used to be die hard loyalists have all quit in disgust. I really don't care I'm going to be playing the Division exclusively the second its released. Done wasting my life fighting the over 90% scr bolt pistol punks that run dust... any time i see you on gallente you have barely half a squad and caldari always has 2 squads either que syncing or just ending up in the same match, is this another thread about how teamwork is OP and needs a nerf? and if you increased the cost of APEX, NO ONE WOULD WANT THEM, YOU CAN LITERALLY BUY 3333 PROTO SUITS Wow you should learn to read before posting.. We are talking about a new suit that would be reward for filling up ur loyalty bar.. And making that reward go away if you aren't loyal.. And qsyncing against a team you know damn well doesn't equal teamwork. I'm sure you could get you teamwork from an 8 man sqd.. And let's not forget that syncing is just an exploit used to gain advantage over an opponent.. So why not even the odds and make 16 man sqds?
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy No Context 4	Posted - 2015.07.19 06:58:00 - [74] - Quote This thread makes me doubt humanity and as such makes me sad. Plz lock before Smoky chokes on his own shtpost I am the Anti-FoTM Fear my Cal Assault and Amarr Scout!
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 225	Posted - 2015.07.19 07:02:00 - [75] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: This thread makes me doubt humanity and as such makes me sad. Plz lock before Smoky chokes on his own shtpost Eat a fatty, I'm taking on all fake mofos who think I'm gonna cave cuz you fotm bishs are 90% of dust and I gotta do it alone.. Im used to it.. It's called moral fortitude.. Something you cunts should try once in a while..
No-one-ganks like-Gaston Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 332	Posted - 2015.07.19 07:17:00 - [76] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: Wow you should learn to read before posting.. We are talking about a new suit that would be reward for filling up ur loyalty bar.. And making that reward go away if you aren't loyal.. And qsyncing against a team you know damn well is all randoms doesn't equal teamwork. I'm sure you could get you teamwork from an 8 man sqd.. And let's not forget that syncing is just an exploit used to gain advantage over an opponent.. So why not even the odds and make 16 man sqds? Rewarding level 10 faction loyalty with a special proto/advanced tier APEX suit won't make FW better. Putting 16 man platoons into FW won't make FW better. For the reasons listed below. Caldari is currently stomping Gallente very hard. Even for new players, getting to rank 10 in Caldari will be much easier than it would be for someone in Gallente. If Caldari players get their special rank 10 proto APEX suit they'll start using that against the Gallente, which means they can continue their stomp without any risk of ISK loss, one of the few deterrents to running all proto all the time in FW, while the Gallente will still be struggling, still unable to reach rank 10 because you only get Faction Standing on a win, and be losing ISK to people who won't be losing anything. 16 man platoons being placed into FW won't improve match quality because... Caldari is currently stomping Gallente with 'q-syncs'. Let's say they've got somewhere between 12 and 16 people at any given time. They're matched together constantly, they're organized, they all know each other, know how to communicate, know how to take and give orders. They will generally beat unorganized teams. Allowing 16 man platoons into FW so that people can pull randoms from the Squad Finder won't give you an advantage. It will just give you a bunch of stupid green dots instead of stupid blue dots. Changing the color of the dot does not raise their intelligence. They will still have the solo player mindset. They will still want to be independent, and if they don't agree with your order they won't talk to you about it reasonably, they'll tell you you're stupid and just flat out ignore you. And you'll still be fighting against the exact same Caldari stompers who are currently winning with their 'q-syncs'. Unless you're suggesting that you want 16 man platoons in FW so that you can pull in a bunch of your own organized buddies and win the day for Gallente? In which case, why don't you do that right now? With 8 man squads? And give Caldari a taste of their medicine?
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy No Context 4	Posted - 2015.07.19 07:20:00 - [77] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: LUGMOS wrote: This thread makes me doubt humanity and as such makes me sad. Plz lock before Smoky chokes on his own shtpost Eat a fatty, I'm taking on all fake mofos who think I'm gonna cave cuz you fotm bishs are 90% of dust and I gotta do it alone.. Im used to it.. It's called moral fortitude.. Something you cunts should try once in a while.. Bruh... 1 b 1 me (again) m8. I swer on me mum eyell rek u. Com at me, my Magsec will be waiting for your Serpentis APEX noobsoot. I am the Anti-FoTM Fear my Cal Assault and Amarr Scout!
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 225	Posted - 2015.07.19 07:21:00 - [78] - Quote No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: Wow you should learn to read before posting.. We are talking about a new suit that would be reward for filling up ur loyalty bar.. And making that reward go away if you aren't loyal.. And qsyncing against a team you know damn well is all randoms doesn't equal teamwork. I'm sure you could get you teamwork from an 8 man sqd.. And let's not forget that syncing is just an exploit used to gain advantage over an opponent.. So why not even the odds and make 16 man sqds? Rewarding level 10 faction loyalty with a special proto/advanced tier APEX suit won't make FW better. Putting 16 man platoons into FW won't make FW better. For the reasons listed below. Caldari is currently stomping Gallente very hard. Even for new players, getting to rank 10 in Caldari will be much easier than it would be for someone in Gallente. If Caldari players get their special rank 10 proto APEX suit they'll start using that against the Gallente, which means they can continue their stomp without any risk of ISK loss, one of the few deterrents to running all proto all the time in FW, while the Gallente will still be struggling, still unable to reach rank 10 because you only get Faction Standing on a win, and be losing ISK to people who won't be losing anything. 16 man platoons being placed into FW won't improve match quality because... Caldari is currently stomping Gallente with 'q-syncs'. Let's say they've got somewhere between 12 and 16 people at any given time. They're matched together constantly, they're organized, they all know each other, know how to communicate, know how to take and give orders. They will generally beat unorganized teams. Allowing 16 man platoons into FW so that people can pull randoms from the Squad Finder won't give you an advantage. It will just give you a bunch of stupid green dots instead of stupid blue dots. Changing the color of the dot does not raise their intelligence. They will still have the solo player mindset. They will still want to be independent, and if they don't agree with your order they won't talk to you about it reasonably, they'll tell you you're stupid and just flat out ignore you. And you'll still be fighting against the exact same Caldari stompers who are currently winning with their 'q-syncs'. Unless you're suggesting that you want 16 man platoons in FW so that you can pull in a bunch of your own organized buddies and win the day for Gallente? In which case, why don't you do that right now? With 8 man squads? And give Caldari a taste of their medicine? Thats alot of thoughts from such a small minded bish.. It would not be an overnight fix, but would address people jumping sides when ever the tide shifts.. Which is the reason Caldari is currently winning.. People got an GFW apex or two the decided to go over to Caldari cuz its easier.. If you can't understand that ..your just plain stupid or are playing the metagame
No-one-ganks like-Gaston Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 332	Posted - 2015.07.19 07:30:00 - [79] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: Thats alot of thoughts from such a small minded bish.. It would not be an overnight fix, but would address people jumping sides when ever the tide shifts.. Which is the reason Caldari is currently winning.. People got an GFW apex or two the decided to go over to Caldari cuz its easier.. If you can't understand that ..your just plain stupid or are playing the metagame And if Caldari syncs every match why would you not want an easier way to sqd up? Scared of losing the advantage? You still have absolutely no smack game. And what advantage would I lose? I don't play Caldari. Except for their 100% nanite injectors, which I already have plenty of from some matches I played a few months back, they offer not a single thing I actually want. Gallente and Minmatar are the only FW I'll ever actually play in. If I'm in Amarr or Caldari, it's so I can get on my forge gun and destroy all their installations and CRUs before leaving the match.
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 225	Posted - 2015.07.19 07:37:00 - [80] - Quote No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: [quote=Smoky The Bear]Thats alot of thoughts from such a small minded bish.. It would not be an overnight fix, but would address people jumping sides when ever the tide shifts.. Which is the reason Caldari is currently winning.. People got an GFW apex or two the decided to go over to Caldari cuz its easier.. If you can't understand that ..your just plain stupid or are playing the metagame And if Caldari syncs every match why would you not want an easier way to sqd up? Scared of losing the advantage? You still have absolutely no smack game. And what advantage would I lose? I don't play Caldari. Except for their 100% nanite injectors, which I already have plenty of from some matches I played a few months back, they offer not a single thing I actually want. Gallente and Minmatar are the only FW I'll ever actually play in. If I'm in Amarr or Caldari, it's so I can get on my forge gun and destroy all their installations and CRUs before leaving the match. Oooo I get it now..ur a window shopper Who wants to do all factions to get on piece of equipment from every faction.. Makes sense now

No-one-ganks like-Gaston Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 332	Posted - 2015.07.19 07:39:00 - [81] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: I'm convinced any naysayers are just trying to keep things one sided.. In that case, I'm convinced you're stupid. It's not about just saying 'no, I don't like that', it's about looking at something and recognizing what problems it may cause, not just how it might help some people. You want stronger APEX suits for faction loyalists? Yeah, sure, that's nifty keen. I actually like the idea of special gear for loyal fighters. But your suggestion will cause more problems than it will solve.
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 225	Posted - 2015.07.19 07:42:00 - [82] - Quote No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: I'm convinced any naysayers are just trying to keep things one sided.. In that case, I'm convinced you're stupid. It's not about just saying 'no, I don't like that', it's about looking at something and recognizing what problems it may cause, not just how it might help some people. You want stronger APEX suits for faction loyalists? Yeah, sure, that's nifty keen. I actually like the idea of special gear for loyal fighters. But your suggestion will cause more problems than it will solve. And yet you fail to mention what these 'problems' might be..or offer your solution to be disected by morons like yourself who have nothing to offer..
No-one-ganks like-Gaston Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 332	Posted - 2015.07.19 07:42:00 - [83] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: Oooo I get it now..ur a window shopper Who wants to do all factions to get on piece of equipment from every faction.. Makes sense now, ur the exact trash that I'm trying to take out.. You too good for ur home? You do realize I said I left those matches I sabotaged, right? Meaning I get nothing from them other than the enjoyment of making it difficult for Amarr/Caldari? Look, I'll even quote the specific thing I said for you. No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: If I'm in Amarr or Caldari, it's so I can get on my forge gun and destroy all their installations and CRUs before leaving the match. Not to mention I don't even do it that often. Once or twice a week, maybe.
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 225	Posted - 2015.07.19 07:45:00 - [84] - Quote No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: Oooo I get it now..ur a window shopper Who wants to do all factions to get on piece of equipment from every faction.. Makes sense now, ur the exact trash that I'm trying to take out.. You too good for ur home? You do realize I said I left those matches I sabotaged, right? Meaning I get nothing from them other than the enjoyment of making it difficult for Amarr/Caldari? Look, I'll even quote the specific thing I said for you. No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: If I'm in Amarr or Caldari, it's so I can get on my forge gun and destroy all their installations and CRUs before leaving the match. Not to mention I don't even do it that often. Once or twice a week, maybe. Goto ur home
No-one-ganks like-Gaston Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 332	Posted - 2015.07.19 07:47:00 - [85] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: And yet you fail to mention what these 'problems' might be.. No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Rewarding level 10 faction loyalty with a special proto/advanced tier APEX suit won't make FW better. Putting 16 man platoons into FW won't make FW better. For the reasons listed below. Caldari is currently stomping Gallente very hard. Even for new players, getting to rank 10 in Caldari will be much easier than it would be for someone in Gallente. If Caldari players get their special rank 10 proto APEX suit they'll start using that against the Gallente, which means they can continue their stomp without any risk of ISK loss, one of the few deterrents to running all proto all the time in FW, while the Gallente will still be struggling, still unable to reach rank 10 because you only get Faction Standing on a win, and be losing ISK to people who won't be losing anything. 16 man platoons being placed into FW won't improve match quality because... Caldari is currently stomping Gallente with 'q-syncs'. Let's say they've got somewhere between 12 and 16 people at any given time. They're matched together constantly, they're organized, they all know each other, know how to communicate, know how to take and give orders. They will generally beat unorganized teams. Allowing 16 man platoons into FW so that people can pull randoms from the Squad Finder won't give you an advantage. It will just give you a bunch of stupid green dots instead of stupid blue dots. Changing the color of the dot does not raise their intelligence. They will still have the solo player mindset. They will still want to be independent, and if they don't agree with your order they won't talk to you about it reasonably, they'll tell you you're stupid and just flat out ignore you. And you'll still be fighting against the exact same Caldari stompers who are currently winning with their 'q-syncs'. Right here ^^^. Special level 10 loyalty rank APEX suits will only make it easier for stompers to stomp, and 16 man platoons don't give randoms an advantage over organized players, it just gives them green dots instead of blue and makes getting a full stomp team organized easier for the people who already q-sync.
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 225	Posted - 2015.07.19 07:55:00 - [86] - Quote No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: And yet you fail to mention what these 'problems' might be.. No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Rewarding level 10 faction loyalty with a special proto/advanced tier APEX suit won't make FW better. Putting 16 man platoons into FW won't make FW better. For the reasons listed below. Caldari is currently stomping Gallente very hard. Even for new players, getting to rank 10 in Caldari will be much easier than it would be for someone in Gallente. If Caldari players get their special rank 10 proto APEX suit they'll start using that against the Gallente, which means they can continue their stomp without any risk of ISK loss, one of the few deterrents to running all proto all the time in FW, while the Gallente will still be struggling, still unable to reach rank 10 because you only get Faction Standing on a win, and be losing ISK to people who won't be losing anything. 16 man platoons being placed into FW won't improve match quality because... Caldari is currently stomping Gallente with 'q-syncs'. Let's say they've got somewhere between 12 and 16 people at any given time. They're matched together constantly, they're organized, they all know each other, know how to communicate, know how to take and give orders. They will generally beat unorganized teams. Allowing 16 man platoons into FW so that people can pull randoms from the Squad Finder won't give you an advantage. It will just give you a bunch of stupid green dots instead of stupid blue dots. Changing the color of the dot does not raise their intelligence. They will still have the solo player mindset. They will still want to be independent, and if they don't agree with your order they won't talk to you about it reasonably, they'll tell you you're stupid and just flat out ignore you. And you'll still be fighting against the exact same Caldari stompers who are currently winning with their 'q-syncs'. Right here ^^^. Special level 10 loyalty rank APEX suits will only make it easier for stompers to stomp, and 16 man platoons don't give randoms an advantage over organized players, it just gives them green dots instead of blue and makes getting a full stomp team organized easier for the people who already q-sync. These reasons are invalid sorry.. The benefits heavily outweigh the negatives that are extremely contrived and suspect..
No-one-ganks like-Gaston Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 332	Posted - 2015.07.19 08:00:00 - [87] - Quote If this is really all you've got for me, I'm going to bed. Remember to work on your wordplay. It's not enough to just call someone stupid, be verbose. Make an anecdote of it. Make it something they're going to remember and still be pissy about later. Practice in front of a mirror or something.
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 225	Posted - 2015.07.19 08:03:00 - [88] - Quote No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: If this is really all you've got for me, I'm going to bed. Remember to work on your wordplay. It's not enough to just call someone stupid, be verbose. Make an anecdote of it. Make it something they're going to remember and still be pissy about later. Practice in front of a mirror or something. Did you practice in the mirror to talk to me? Lol sad patetic little man
nelo kazuma Ecce Initio RLC. RUST415 309	Posted - 2015.07.19 20:57:00 - [89] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: nelo kazuma wrote: Ohh smokey remeber when u came to the cal chat n said cal aint ** n we stomped u n everyone sent u a message saying gal aint 3 matches in a row lol yea middas was there for that he our best ob pilot and has stomped u more times than I can count on his dust toon. Lol now if u wanna play dumb n say "who r u nelo" im the guy who tea bagged u almost everytime I kill u so u dnt forget Yes I remember the time I was trying to kick start fw by talking , and was actually laughing my ass off at all that hatemail.. BUT I was solo, and you guys brought allur best synced up stompers to kill 1 guy.. That makes him better than me? Hiding behind a sync? Lol see me 1v1 Lol dont flatter yourself wasnt for u just stomped u on the way to stomping the rest of ur team. Secondly hes stomped u before just like I have n many others not to say ur not good its fun seeing u on enemy team but ur not that good FOR THE STATE ^(-_-) Cal Loyalist For Life**
nelo kazuma Ecce Initio RLC. RUST415 309	Posted - 2015.07.19 21:01:00 - [90] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: nelo kazuma wrote: Ohh smokey remeber when u came to the cal chat n said cal aint ** n we stomped u n everyone sent u a message saying gal aint 3 matches in a row lol yea middas was there for that he our best ob pilot and has stomped u more times than I can count on his dust toon. Lol now if u wanna play dumb n say "who r u nelo" im the guy who tea bagged u almost everytime I kill u so u dnt forget Yes I remember the time I was trying to kick start fw by talking , and was actually laughing my ass off at all that hatemail.. BUT I was solo, and you guys brought allur best synced up stompers to kill 1 guy.. That makes him better than me? Hiding behind a sync? Lol see me 1v1 You're an idiot if you think FWs need kickstarting anymore. I've seen FWs going constantly ever since 8 man squads were implemented. Just admit you were talking trash and got stomped in response. This was some time ago, and yes it was a kick start as I've done before and sincLol (ask Kirk or any other GFW regulars). As was mentioned earlier.. As demonstrated here.. If I wanted to talk I would come up with something alot better than Caldari ain't .. Lol ..but yes I had to eat my words on that one.. Feel better? Good, now eat me..and nelo you might be a good player, but you rely on fotm weps so I guess we'll never know.. Flavor of the month weapon @.@ ive been using all caldari gear since I started this game didnt think rr n magsec were fotm or even caldari suits in general in fact theyre least used race unlike gal scout n shotty >.> wait dont u use that??? FOR THE STATE ^(-_-) Cal Loyalist For Life**

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.19 21:22:00 - [91] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: True Adamance wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: True Adamance wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: They aren't loyalists, just followers... Of course they are. A large number of them have struggled through the down periods of Cal FW and were instrumental in being able to draw together a player base as well as attract the attentions of those corps who act as balance breakers. They're all still there too. Yes there are exceptions to every rule... And those are what we call loyalists......almost by the very definition..... So wtf is you point? That I'm wrong because you have a couple exception s? That's a fallacy.. Use logic 101 You're assertion was that they were not loyalists. That kind of ignorance only served to present to me that you are not aware of what the role or the concept really entails. In response refuted that argument. If it please you I can list a dozen of the loyalists you are so quick to dismiss. It also occurs to be by your outburst that you are not truly aware of the how FW functions or why it is commonly called by its players the 'Pendulum War". Additionally having read your more recent posts it would suggest to me that you are also unaware of the general history as well as ebb and flow of FW in Dust over the last few years. I'm not interested in the rights and wrongs, nor the winner of this asinine argument. I'm merely correcting for the sake of what is and what isn't so that we remember that both sides in your FW setting both merit respect for efforts they have contributed in the name of their faction, have in fact been Q-Syncing/making use of organised channels and squads, and that in order to commit long term to FW one has to understand that the support players recieve outside of the traditional loyalist circles is what determines the success of a militia. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 235	Posted - 2015.07.20 05:54:00 - [92] - Quote nelo kazuma wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: nelo kazuma wrote: Ohh smokey remeber when u came to the cal chat n said cal aint ** n we stomped u n everyone sent u a message saying gal aint 3 matches in a row lol yea middas was there for that he our best ob pilot and has stomped u more times than I can count on his dust toon. Lol now if u wanna play dumb n say "who r u nelo" im the guy who tea bagged u almost everytime I kill u so u dnt forget Yes I remember the time I was trying to kick start fw by talking **, and was actually laughing my ass off at all that hatemail.. BUT I was solo, and you guys brought allur best synced up stompers to kill 1 guy.. That makes him better than me? Hiding behind a sync? Lol see me 1v1 Lol dont flatter yourself wasnt for u just stomped u on the way to stomping the rest of ur team. Secondly hes stomped u before just like I have n many others not to say ur not good its fun seeing u on enemy team but ur not that good Ya keep talking big while you roll with ur synced up protostompers everywhere.. If i felt like stooping to ur level and joined a big name corp and had unlimited proto at my disposal, you'd be singing a different tune .. Bottom line , I'm the best pure Scout in the game and always have been since closed beta.. Im fine with my underdog status but let's just keep it real ok,.. If I cared wtf u scrubs thought of me I'd go with a rifle and fukn own anyone that crossed my path, trust me.. Thing is this game blows as a fps, that's why I prefer to Scout and get wins for my team.. In fact Nelo, come join my corp and prove that you can shine without all that gear and backups.. Otherwise show some fukn respect scrub
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.07.20 06:00:00 - [93] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: Forum warrior's: keep it up I'm tiring of responding.. These arguments don't work on me.. Everyone know I'm team player and strive only for wins not points.. I really think it should be a proto suit but threw out the advanced because there would be little reason to use anything other than that suit.. And furthermore I don't really accept that GFW was ever EZ mode..it was simply solos vs solos until STF started syncing and Kirk came around and organized a sync in response.. Hell I didn't even join the gal channel until STF started syncing .. I'm not the one chump I agree, we should make FW solo queue only because those pesky syncers shouldn't play in Dust 514's most competitive game-mode outside of PC. Little cretins can go back to Molden He- Oh. I've been made. Who the hell said make fw solo queues? I said 16 man sqds you dumbass Do they call you smoky because of all the times you've been burned on the forums? Volunteer For The PSD! Design A SKIN 2
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 235	Posted - 2015.07.20 06:23:00 - [94] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: Forum warrior's: keep it up I'm tiring of responding.. These arguments don't work on me.. Everyone know I'm team player and strive only for wins not points.. I really think it should be a proto suit but threw out the advanced because there would be little reason to use anything other than that suit.. And furthermore I don't really accept that GFW was ever EZ mode..it was simply solos vs solos until STF started syncing and Kirk came around and organized a sync in response.. Hell I didn't even join the gal channel until STF started syncing .. I'm not the one chump I agree, we should make FW solo queue only because those pesky syncers shouldn't play in Dust 514's most competitive game-mode outside of PC. Little cretins can go back to Molden He- Oh. I've been made. Who the hell said make fw solo queues? I said 16 man sqds you dumbass Do they call you smoky because of all the times you've been burned on the forums? Who burned me? Not u.. I'm a warrior not a forum warrior, but I'll pwn u anytime u can find me.. In the game,in the forums and irl
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.20 06:38:00 - [95] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: And yet you fail to mention what these 'problems' might be.. No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Rewarding level 10 faction loyalty with a special proto/advanced tier APEX suit won't make FW better. Putting 16 man platoons into FW won't make FW better. For the reasons listed below. Caldari is currently stomping Gallente very hard. Even for new players, getting to rank 10 in Caldari will be much easier than it would be for someone in Gallente. If Caldari players get their special rank 10 proto APEX suit they'll start using that against the Gallente, which means they can continue their stomp without any risk of ISK loss, one of the few deterrents to running all proto all the time in FW, while the Gallente will still be struggling, still unable to reach rank 10 because you only get Faction Standing on a win, and be losing ISK to people who won't be losing anything. 16 man platoons being placed into FW won't improve match quality because... Caldari is currently stomping Gallente with 'q-syncs'. Let's say they've got somewhere between 12 and 16 people at any given time. They're matched together constantly, they're organized, they all know each other, know how to communicate, know how to take and give orders. They will generally beat unorganized teams. Allowing 16 man platoons into FW so that people can pull randoms from the Squad Finder won't give you an advantage. It will just give you a bunch of stupid green dots instead of stupid blue dots. Changing the color of the dot does not raise their intelligence. They will still have the solo player mindset. They will still want to be independent, and if they don't agree with your order they won't talk to you about it reasonably, they'll tell you you're stupid and just flat out ignore you. And you'll still be fighting against the exact same Caldari stompers who are currently winning with their 'q-syncs'. Right here ^^^. Special level 10 loyalty rank APEX suits will only make it easier for stompers to stomp, and 16 man platoons don't give randoms an advantage over organized players, it just gives them green dots instead of blue and makes getting a full stomp team organized easier for the people who already q-sync. These reasons are invalid sorry.. The benefits heavily outweigh your negatives that are extremely contrived and suspect.. Pretty sure u just want to continue playing for every faction... Pretty sure you average stomper won't take 6 month out of their life to grind for an advanced suit.. And we weren't talking about fixing pubstomping we were talking about fw.. Now ** off It is not your decision as to whether anothers arguments are invalid, that decision comes from a community of informed individuals... and the community of informed individuals is largely in disagreement with you. Gastons arguments are actually well supported and reasoned. We've asked you for clarifications, support for your arguments and reasoning behind said arguments... and you've failed to provide, everything said to you has been met with a resounding "LOL NOEP". You might want to take a look at this image: all of your arguments have been contradiction or below, none of us understand your reasoning because you've failed to explain it and you don't seem to want to listen to any arguments that actually refute yours. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.** I have a few alts.
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.07.20 06:40:00 - [96] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: Forum warrior's: keep it up I'm tiring of responding.. These arguments don't work on me.. Everyone know I'm team player and strive only for wins not points.. I really think it should be a proto suit but threw out the advanced because there would be little reason to use anything other than that suit.. And furthermore I don't really accept that GFW was ever EZ mode..it was simply solos vs solos until STF started syncing and Kirk came around and organized a sync in response.. Hell I didn't even join the gal channel until STF started syncing .. I'm not the one chump I agree, we should make FW solo queue only because those pesky syncers shouldn't play in Dust 514's most competitive game-mode outside of PC. Little cretins can go back to Molden He- Oh. I've been made. Who the hell said make fw solo queues? I said 16 man sqds you dumbass Do they call you smoky because of all the times you've been burned on the forums? Who burned me? Not u.. I'm a warrior not a forum warrior, but I'll pwn u anytime u can find me.. In the game,in the forums and irl You're so great of a warrior I have never heard of you, your corp, or your alliance, in the 3+ years I've been playing this game and the 9+ years I've played Eve Online. Volunteer For The PSD! Design A SKIN 2
Faquira Bleuetta Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 524	Posted - 2015.07.20 09:02:00 - [97] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: 1. Bring back "going negative if you fight against your own faction" 2. Give a VERY handsome reward for completing your LP bar in any given faction. I'm thinking an advanced bpo suit with all slots filled. Trust me its not EZ to get to fill your LP standing, but I propose we make it even harder (500,000 LP and 50 mil isk) to get the suit. Also YOU may ONLY have 1 loyalty suit at a time..This would completely negate the one sided qsyncs that have recently ruined fw for everyone. 3. We need 16 man sqds I'm done with dust until I see this happen.. It's impossible to find an evenly matched battle ATM. The people who used to be die hard loyalists have all quit in disgust. I really don't care I'm going to be playing the Division exclusively the second its released. Done wasting my life fighting the over 90% scr bolt pistol punks that run dust... GûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûäGûäGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûä GûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûäGûäGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûä GûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûäGûäGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûê GûÆGûÆGûÆGûäGûêGûêGûêGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇGûêGûêGûÇGûêGûêGûîGûêGûêGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇGûêGûêGûêGûê GûÆGûÆGûÉGûÇGûêGûêGûêGûêGûîGûÇGûêGûêGûîGûÇGûÉGûêGûîGûêGûêGûêGûêGûîGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûî GûÆGûÆGûêGûÆGûÆGûÇGûêGûêGûÇGûÇGûÉGûêGûÉGûêGûîGûêGûîGûÇGûÇGûêGûêGûîGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûê GûÆGûÆGûêGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûî GûÆGûÆGûÆGûîGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûÇ GûÆGûÆGûÆGûÇGûäGûôGûôGûôGûÆGûêGûêGûêGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÇGûæGûôGûôGûÆGûÉGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûÇGûÇGûÆ GûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûæGûæGûÆGûÆGûÉGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûÇGûÇGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆ GûÆGûÆGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûÇGûÇGûÇGûÇGûÇGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆ GûÆGûÆGûÆGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûÆGûÆ
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.20 10:17:00 - [98] - Quote Looking back on the whole 16 Q-Sync argument I'm in some ways still on the fence. It could theoretically help organised groups out a great deal considering they are already doing this anyway, at the same time it literally could make FW a player wherein the individual player has not place,,,,, That's certainly not what I want, a peaceful (as peaceful and immortal clone warfare gets) it what the ideal medium would be. A system that allows a degree of flexibility for players who don't want to be tied down the a faction while presenting the options with appropriate tone and maturity while also actively benefiting those who do wish to work solely for a faction. That being said I don't agree with Lvl 10 exclusive dropsuit skins and what not. That's not how FW should work, FW should only be measured in what you are willing to contribute to the faction and by what that faction offers you in return in LP. Nor am I a fan of having an Empire government just throw out 50,000,000 ISK packages at FW players .....with that out of the way I can just wait for Smokey to tell me I'm a faction hopping pseudo pub star with no sense of loyalty. When this happens this thread will be complete for me. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
Daddrobit You Can Call Me Daddy 1	Posted - 2015.07.20 13:48:00 - [99] - Quote True Adamance wrote: .....with that out of the way I can just wait for Smokey to tell me I'm a faction hopping pseudo pub star with no sense of loyalty. When this happens this thread will be complete for me. Aww hell True, I coulda' told you that! O.G. Pink Fluffy Bunny
Jammer Jalapeno Kirjuun Heiian 257	Posted - 2015.07.20 14:47:00 - [100] - Quote NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Smokey Come Back!!!!! MmMmMm Glitter

Zan Azikuchi G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance 251	Posted - 2015.07.20 16:37:00 - [101] - Quote Jammer Jalapeno wrote: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Smokey Come Back!!!!! Please don't start singing..... When there is light, shadow's lurk and fear reign's... Yet by the blade of knight's, mankind, was given hope.
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 236	Posted - 2015.07.20 20:35:00 - [102] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: And yet you fail to mention what these 'problems' might be.. No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Rewarding level 10 faction loyalty with a special proto/advanced tier APEX suit won't make FW better. Putting 16 man platoons into FW won't make FW better. For the reasons listed below. Caldari is currently stomping Gallente very hard. Even for new players, getting to rank 10 in Caldari will be much easier than it would be for someone in Gallente. If Caldari players get their special rank 10 proto APEX suit they'll start using that against the Gallente, which means they can continue their stomp without any risk of ISK loss, one of the few deterrents to running all proto all the time in FW, while the Gallente will still be struggling, still unable to reach rank 10 because you only get Faction Standing on a win, and be losing ISK to people who won't be losing anything. 16 man platoons being placed into FW won't improve match quality because... Caldari is currently stomping Gallente with 'q-syncs'. Let's say they've got somewhere between 12 and 16 people at any given time. They're matched together constantly, they're organized, they all know each other, know how to communicate, know how to take and give orders. They will generally beat unorganized teams. Allowing 16 man platoons into FW so that people can pull randoms from the Squad Finder won't give you an advantage. It will just give you a bunch of stupid green dots instead of stupid blue dots. Changing the color of the dot does not raise their intelligence. They will still have the solo player mindset. They will still want to be independent, and if they don't agree with your order they won't talk to you about it reasonably, they'll tell you you're stupid and just flat out ignore you. And you'll still be fighting against the exact same Caldari stompers who are currently winning with their 'q-syncs'. Right here ^^^. Special level 10 loyalty rank APEX suits will only make it easier for stompers to stomp, and 16 man platoons don't give randoms an advantage over organized players, it just gives them green dots instead of blue and makes getting a full stomp team organized easier for the people who already q-sync. These reasons are invalid sorry.. The benefits heavily outweigh your negatives that are extremely contrived and suspect.. Pretty sure u just want to continue playing for every faction... Pretty sure you average stomper won't take 6 month out of their life to grind for an advanced suit.. And we weren't talking about fixing pubstomping we were talking about fw.. Now **** off It is not your decision as to whether anothers arguments are invalid, that decision comes from a community of informed individuals... and the community of informed individuals is largely in disagreement with you. Gastons arguments are actually well supported and reasoned. We've asked you for clarifications, support for your arguments and reasoning behind said arguments... and you've failed to provide, everything said to you has been met with a resounding "LOL NOEP". You might want to take a look at this image: all of your arguments have been contradiction or below, none of us understand your reasoning because you've failed to explain it and you don't seem to want to listen to any arguments that actually refute yours. Lolololol really? I have stated and restated..explained and re explained... It's not rocket science, just common sense an 8 year old could comprehend.. Maybe you should read again.. And you don't decide what the community asna whole agrees or disagreesnwith bish.. I see maybe 3 or 4 people and their alts taking random shots at me and refusing to address the actual post.. LIKE YOU.. Forum warriors whondont play the game clearly.. From fotm protostomping majority which is 90% in the game and 80% in life.. If we were only concerned with the majority, and fuq anyone who wants to have a different loadout than literally everyone reading this, we would have everyone doing the exact same crap.. No diversity at all.. O wait that's exactly what's already happening... You don't speak for me, or others who refuse to cave to the fotm protostomping forum majority , hence the post.. Nice try scrub
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 236	Posted - 2015.07.20 20:45:00 - [103] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Looking back on the whole 16 Q-Sync argument I'm in some ways still on the fence. It could theoretically help organised groups out a great deal considering they are already doing this anyway, at the same time it literally could make FW a player wherein the individual player has not place,,,,, That's certainly not what I want, a peaceful (as peaceful and immortal clone warfare gets) it what the ideal medium would be. A system that allows a degree of flexibility for players who don't want to be tied down the a faction while presenting the options with appropriate tone and maturity while also actively benefiting those who do wish to work solely for a faction. That being said I don't agree with Lvl 10 exclusive dropsuit skins and what not. That's not how FW should work, FW should only be measured in what you are willing to contribute to the faction and by what that faction offers you in return in LP. Nor am I a fan of having an Empire government just throw out 50,000,000 ISK packages at FW players .....with that out of the way I can just wait for Smokey to tell me I'm a faction hopping pseudo pub star with no sense of loyalty. When this happens this thread will be complete for me. Wtf are you people stupid? Seriously.. 50 million packages? Wtf are you talking about? 50 mil was my suggestion to make it HARDER to buy the level 10 suit.. And half a mil lp too.. You don't want to be tied down to one faction? To get 'loyalty' points? Lolololol u realize that's a direct contradiction to the word? Clearly you are disloyal and don't need to be getting loyalty points ints cuz ur dumb..got it now? Asshat
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.20 22:00:00 - [104] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: Wtf are you people stupid? Seriously.. 50 million packages? Wtf are you talking about? 50 mil was my suggestion to make it HARDER to buy the level 10 suit.. And half a mil lp too.. You don't want to be tied down to one faction? To get 'loyalty' points? Lolololol u realize that's a direct contradiction to the word? Clearly you are disloyal and don't need to be getting loyalty points ints cuz ur dumb..got it now? Asshat Sorry misinterpretation of your OP....that being said...... me disloyal? Clearly being in the oldest Pro-Amarr corporation/Alliance in the game, restricting myself to only Amarrian technology, and those 3 years of sticking to Amarr FW don't mean anything. Thank you this thread is now complete. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
Victor889 WarRavens RUST415 284	Posted - 2015.07.20 22:05:00 - [105] - Quote I have never played FW Once I realised you have to wait for up to 10 minutes for one game I simply didn't bother
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 238	Posted - 2015.07.20 22:07:00 - [106] - Quote Victor889 wrote: I have never played FW Once I realised you have to wait for up to 10 minutes for one game I simply didn't bother This is rarely the case these days.. Seems to be a full on sync waiting for the solos to q up..
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.20 22:08:00 - [107] - Quote Victor889 wrote: I have never played FW Once I realised you have to wait for up to 10 minutes for one game I simply didn't bother You don't really. Depending on the times you play you could be in matches within seconds, other times you have to wait all of 2-3 minutes. I see a great deal of your corp members in FW going about their business. You should join them and fight for your faction. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 240	Posted - 2015.07.21 01:48:00 - [108] - Quote Bit late for that unfortunately
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 1	Posted - 2015.07.21 04:29:00 - [109] - Quote Golden Day wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: They aren't loyalists, just followers... Starlights Nelo Squaggs Songs and more aren't followers also good bye make sure to biomass Are they your hero's "Anybody order chaos?"
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 247	Posted - 2015.07.21 20:17:00 - [110] - Quote Bradric Banewolf wrote: Golden Day wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: They aren't loyalists, just followers... Starlights Nelo Squaggs Songs and more aren't followers also good bye make sure to biomass Are they your hero's Heroes don't use fotm while hiding behind proto syncs, so they can talk big to real players out here doing it.. I'm batman mofo.. Want my autograph?

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.21 20:55:00 - [111] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: Golden Day wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: They aren't loyalists, just followers... Starlights Nelo Squaggs Songs and more aren't followers also good bye make sure to biomass Are they your hero's Heroes don't use fotm while hiding behind proto syncs, so they can talk big to real players out here doing it.. I'm batman mofo.. Want my autograph? I think you genuinely don't understand the function of these kinds of players. They aren't there to be individually skilled players though some certainly are they function as organisers or even symbols of the faction. More than anything they are content providers though some like Kirk take it that step further and produce lore savvy youtube clips. In FW individual skill has lack real and quantifiable merit when compared to the efforts of a fire team as more often than not a group of communicating players will always have a wide range of options for achieving the task at hand. Same can be said for individual performance in FW. It is no use scoring 18/2 or 15/0 in an HAV as I saw others doing over the weekend in our 6 man fire team's sole loss if it means you are compromising your ability to hold and objective or press one. Moreover consider that in terms of what I run....... I've run the same things for 2.5 years. All Amarr suits and weapons all the time. I'm not about to skill out of them or sully 12 years of PIE Inc traditions because some asshats are calling it FoTM. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
VikingKong iBUN 0uter.Heaven 519	Posted - 2015.07.21 21:33:00 - [112] - Quote I think fighting for one faction reducing your standing for the opposing faction is definitely a thing that should be brought back. There is no loyalty any more. I would like a Gallente SMG. TUNNEL SNAKES RULE


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