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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.07.19 02:10:00 -
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Smoky The Bear wrote:They aren't loyalists, just followers...
Of course they are. A large number of them have struggled through the down periods of Cal FW and were instrumental in being able to draw together a player base as well as attract the attentions of those corps who act as balance breakers.
They're all still there too.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.07.19 03:17:00 -
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Smoky The Bear wrote:True Adamance wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:They aren't loyalists, just followers... Of course they are. A large number of them have struggled through the down periods of Cal FW and were instrumental in being able to draw together a player base as well as attract the attentions of those corps who act as balance breakers. They're all still there too. Yes there are exceptions to every rule...
And those are what we call loyalists......almost by the very definition.....
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.07.19 21:22:00 -
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Smoky The Bear wrote:True Adamance wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:True Adamance wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:They aren't loyalists, just followers... Of course they are. A large number of them have struggled through the down periods of Cal FW and were instrumental in being able to draw together a player base as well as attract the attentions of those corps who act as balance breakers. They're all still there too. Yes there are exceptions to every rule... And those are what we call loyalists......almost by the very definition..... So wtf is you point? That I'm wrong because you have a couple exception s? That's a fallacy.. Use logic 101
You're assertion was that they were not loyalists. That kind of ignorance only served to present to me that you are not aware of what the role or the concept really entails. In response refuted that argument. If it please you I can list a dozen of the loyalists you are so quick to dismiss.
It also occurs to be by your outburst that you are not truly aware of the how FW functions or why it is commonly called by its players the 'Pendulum War".
Additionally having read your more recent posts it would suggest to me that you are also unaware of the general history as well as ebb and flow of FW in Dust over the last few years.
I'm not interested in the rights and wrongs, nor the winner of this asinine argument. I'm merely correcting for the sake of what is and what isn't so that we remember that both sides in your FW setting both merit respect for efforts they have contributed in the name of their faction, have in fact been Q-Syncing/making use of organised channels and squads, and that in order to commit long term to FW one has to understand that the support players recieve outside of the traditional loyalist circles is what determines the success of a militia.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.07.20 10:17:00 -
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Looking back on the whole 16 Q-Sync argument I'm in some ways still on the fence. It could theoretically help organised groups out a great deal considering they are already doing this anyway, at the same time it literally could make FW a player wherein the individual player has not place,,,,,
That's certainly not what I want, a peaceful (as peaceful and immortal clone warfare gets) it what the ideal medium would be. A system that allows a degree of flexibility for players who don't want to be tied down the a faction while presenting the options with appropriate tone and maturity while also actively benefiting those who do wish to work solely for a faction.
That being said I don't agree with Lvl 10 exclusive dropsuit skins and what not. That's not how FW should work, FW should only be measured in what you are willing to contribute to the faction and by what that faction offers you in return in LP. Nor am I a fan of having an Empire government just throw out 50,000,000 ISK packages at FW players
.....with that out of the way I can just wait for Smokey to tell me I'm a faction hopping pseudo pub star with no sense of loyalty. When this happens this thread will be complete for me.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.07.20 22:00:00 -
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Smoky The Bear wrote:
Wtf are you people stupid? Seriously.. 50 million packages? Wtf are you talking about? 50 mil was my suggestion to make it HARDER to buy the level 10 suit.. And half a mil lp too.. You don't want to be tied down to one faction? To get 'loyalty' points? Lolololol u realize that's a direct contradiction to the word? Clearly you are disloyal and don't need to be getting loyalty points ints cuz ur dumb..got it now? Asshat
Sorry misinterpretation of your OP....that being said...... me disloyal? Clearly being in the oldest Pro-Amarr corporation/Alliance in the game, restricting myself to only Amarrian technology, and those 3 years of sticking to Amarr FW don't mean anything.
Thank you this thread is now complete.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.07.20 22:08:00 -
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Victor889 wrote:I have never played FW
Once I realised you have to wait for up to 10 minutes for one game I simply didn't bother
You don't really. Depending on the times you play you could be in matches within seconds, other times you have to wait all of 2-3 minutes.
I see a great deal of your corp members in FW going about their business. You should join them and fight for your faction.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.07.21 20:55:00 -
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Smoky The Bear wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:Golden Day wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:They aren't loyalists, just followers... Starlights Nelo Squaggs Songs and more aren't followers also good bye make sure to biomass Are they your hero's  Heroes don't use fotm while hiding behind proto syncs, so they can talk big to real players out here doing it.. I'm batman mofo.. Want my autograph?
I think you genuinely don't understand the function of these kinds of players. They aren't there to be individually skilled players though some certainly are they function as organisers or even symbols of the faction. More than anything they are content providers though some like Kirk take it that step further and produce lore savvy youtube clips.
In FW individual skill has lack real and quantifiable merit when compared to the efforts of a fire team as more often than not a group of communicating players will always have a wide range of options for achieving the task at hand. Same can be said for individual performance in FW. It is no use scoring 18/2 or 15/0 in an HAV as I saw others doing over the weekend in our 6 man fire team's sole loss if it means you are compromising your ability to hold and objective or press one.
Moreover consider that in terms of what I run....... I've run the same things for 2.5 years. All Amarr suits and weapons all the time. I'm not about to skill out of them or sully 12 years of PIE Inc traditions because some asshats are calling it FoTM.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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