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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.07.19 21:22:00 -
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Smoky The Bear wrote:True Adamance wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:True Adamance wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:They aren't loyalists, just followers... Of course they are. A large number of them have struggled through the down periods of Cal FW and were instrumental in being able to draw together a player base as well as attract the attentions of those corps who act as balance breakers. They're all still there too. Yes there are exceptions to every rule... And those are what we call loyalists......almost by the very definition..... So wtf is you point? That I'm wrong because you have a couple exception s? That's a fallacy.. Use logic 101
You're assertion was that they were not loyalists. That kind of ignorance only served to present to me that you are not aware of what the role or the concept really entails. In response refuted that argument. If it please you I can list a dozen of the loyalists you are so quick to dismiss.
It also occurs to be by your outburst that you are not truly aware of the how FW functions or why it is commonly called by its players the 'Pendulum War".
Additionally having read your more recent posts it would suggest to me that you are also unaware of the general history as well as ebb and flow of FW in Dust over the last few years.
I'm not interested in the rights and wrongs, nor the winner of this asinine argument. I'm merely correcting for the sake of what is and what isn't so that we remember that both sides in your FW setting both merit respect for efforts they have contributed in the name of their faction, have in fact been Q-Syncing/making use of organised channels and squads, and that in order to commit long term to FW one has to understand that the support players recieve outside of the traditional loyalist circles is what determines the success of a militia.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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Smoky The Bear
THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2015.07.20 05:54:00 -
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nelo kazuma wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:nelo kazuma wrote:Ohh smokey remeber when u came to the cal chat n said cal aint **** n we stomped u n everyone sent u a message saying gal aint **** 3 matches in a row lol yea middas was there for that he our best ob pilot and has stomped u more times than I can count on his dust toon. Lol now if u wanna play dumb n say "who r u nelo" im the guy who tea bagged u almost everytime I kill u so u dnt forget Yes I remember the time I was trying to kick start fw by talking ****, and was actually laughing my ass off at all that hatemail.. BUT I was solo, and you guys brought allur best synced up stompers to kill 1 guy.. That makes him better than me? Hiding behind a sync? Lol see me 1v1 Lol dont flatter yourself wasnt for u just stomped u on the way to stomping the rest of ur team. Secondly hes stomped u before just like I have n many others not to say ur not good its fun seeing u on enemy team but ur not that good
Ya keep talking big while you roll with ur synced up protostompers everywhere.. If i felt like stooping to ur level and joined a big name corp and had unlimited proto at my disposal, you'd be singing a different tune .. Bottom line , I'm the best pure Scout in the game and always have been since closed beta.. Im fine with my underdog status but let's just keep it real ok,.. If I cared wtf u scrubs thought of me I'd go with a rifle and fukn own anyone that crossed my path, trust me.. Thing is this game blows as a fps, that's why I prefer to Scout and get wins for my team.. In fact Nelo, come join my corp and prove that you can shine without all that gear and backups.. Otherwise show some fukn respect scrub
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.07.20 06:00:00 -
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Smoky The Bear wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:
Forum warrior's: keep it up I'm tiring of responding.. These arguments don't work on me.. Everyone know I'm team player and strive only for wins not points.. I really think it should be a proto suit but threw out the advanced because there would be little reason to use anything other than that suit..
And furthermore I don't really accept that GFW was ever EZ mode..it was simply solos vs solos until STF started syncing and Kirk came around and organized a sync in response.. Hell I didn't even join the gal channel until STF started syncing .. I'm not the one chump
I agree, we should make FW solo queue only because those pesky syncers shouldn't play in Dust 514's most competitive game-mode outside of PC. Little cretins can go back to Molden He- Oh. I've been made. Who the hell said make fw solo queues? I said 16 man sqds you dumbass
Do they call you smoky because of all the times you've been burned on the forums?
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Smoky The Bear
THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2015.07.20 06:23:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:
Forum warrior's: keep it up I'm tiring of responding.. These arguments don't work on me.. Everyone know I'm team player and strive only for wins not points.. I really think it should be a proto suit but threw out the advanced because there would be little reason to use anything other than that suit..
And furthermore I don't really accept that GFW was ever EZ mode..it was simply solos vs solos until STF started syncing and Kirk came around and organized a sync in response.. Hell I didn't even join the gal channel until STF started syncing .. I'm not the one chump
I agree, we should make FW solo queue only because those pesky syncers shouldn't play in Dust 514's most competitive game-mode outside of PC. Little cretins can go back to Molden He- Oh. I've been made. Who the hell said make fw solo queues? I said 16 man sqds you dumbass Do they call you smoky because of all the times you've been burned on the forums?
Who burned me? Not u.. I'm a warrior not a forum warrior, but I'll pwn u anytime u can find me.. In the game,in the forums and irl |
MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2015.07.20 06:38:00 -
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Smoky The Bear wrote:No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:And yet you fail to mention what these 'problems' might be.. No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote:Rewarding level 10 faction loyalty with a special proto/advanced tier APEX suit won't make FW better. Putting 16 man platoons into FW won't make FW better. For the reasons listed below.
Caldari is currently stomping Gallente very hard. Even for new players, getting to rank 10 in Caldari will be much easier than it would be for someone in Gallente. If Caldari players get their special rank 10 proto APEX suit they'll start using that against the Gallente, which means they can continue their stomp without any risk of ISK loss, one of the few deterrents to running all proto all the time in FW, while the Gallente will still be struggling, still unable to reach rank 10 because you only get Faction Standing on a win, and be losing ISK to people who won't be losing anything.
16 man platoons being placed into FW won't improve match quality because... Caldari is currently stomping Gallente with 'q-syncs'. Let's say they've got somewhere between 12 and 16 people at any given time. They're matched together constantly, they're organized, they all know each other, know how to communicate, know how to take and give orders. They will generally beat unorganized teams. Allowing 16 man platoons into FW so that people can pull randoms from the Squad Finder won't give you an advantage. It will just give you a bunch of stupid green dots instead of stupid blue dots. Changing the color of the dot does not raise their intelligence. They will still have the solo player mindset. They will still want to be independent, and if they don't agree with your order they won't talk to you about it reasonably, they'll tell you you're stupid and just flat out ignore you. And you'll still be fighting against the exact same Caldari stompers who are currently winning with their 'q-syncs'. Right here ^^^. Special level 10 loyalty rank APEX suits will only make it easier for stompers to stomp, and 16 man platoons don't give randoms an advantage over organized players, it just gives them green dots instead of blue and makes getting a full stomp team organized easier for the people who already q-sync. These reasons are invalid sorry.. The benefits heavily outweigh your negatives that are extremely contrived and suspect.. Pretty sure u just want to continue playing for every faction... Pretty sure you average stomper won't take 6 month out of their life to grind for an advanced suit.. And we weren't talking about fixing pubstomping we were talking about fw.. Now **** off
It is not your decision as to whether anothers arguments are invalid, that decision comes from a community of informed individuals... and the community of informed individuals is largely in disagreement with you.
Gastons arguments are actually well supported and reasoned. We've asked you for clarifications, support for your arguments and reasoning behind said arguments... and you've failed to provide, everything said to you has been met with a resounding "LOL NOEP".
You might want to take a look at this image: all of your arguments have been contradiction or below, none of us understand your reasoning because you've failed to explain it and you don't seem to want to listen to any arguments that actually refute yours.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.07.20 06:40:00 -
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Smoky The Bear wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:
Forum warrior's: keep it up I'm tiring of responding.. These arguments don't work on me.. Everyone know I'm team player and strive only for wins not points.. I really think it should be a proto suit but threw out the advanced because there would be little reason to use anything other than that suit..
And furthermore I don't really accept that GFW was ever EZ mode..it was simply solos vs solos until STF started syncing and Kirk came around and organized a sync in response.. Hell I didn't even join the gal channel until STF started syncing .. I'm not the one chump
I agree, we should make FW solo queue only because those pesky syncers shouldn't play in Dust 514's most competitive game-mode outside of PC. Little cretins can go back to Molden He- Oh. I've been made. Who the hell said make fw solo queues? I said 16 man sqds you dumbass Do they call you smoky because of all the times you've been burned on the forums? Who burned me? Not u.. I'm a warrior not a forum warrior, but I'll pwn u anytime u can find me.. In the game,in the forums and irl
You're so great of a warrior I have never heard of you, your corp, or your alliance, in the 3+ years I've been playing this game and the 9+ years I've played Eve Online.
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Faquira Bleuetta
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.07.20 09:02:00 -
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Smoky The Bear wrote:1. Bring back "going negative if you fight against your own faction"
2. Give a VERY handsome reward for completing your LP bar in any given faction. I'm thinking an advanced bpo suit with all slots filled. Trust me its not EZ to get to fill your LP standing, but I propose we make it even harder (500,000 LP and 50 mil isk) to get the suit. Also YOU may ONLY have 1 loyalty suit at a time..This would completely negate the one sided qsyncs that have recently ruined fw for everyone.
3. We need 16 man sqds
I'm done with dust until I see this happen.. It's impossible to find an evenly matched battle ATM. The people who used to be die hard loyalists have all quit in disgust. I really don't care I'm going to be playing the Division exclusively the second its released. Done wasting my life fighting the over 90% scr bolt pistol punks that run dust... GûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûäGûäGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûä GûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûäGûäGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûä GûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûäGûäGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûê GûÆGûÆGûÆGûäGûêGûêGûêGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇGûêGûêGûÇGûêGûêGûîGûêGûêGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇGûêGûêGûêGûê GûÆGûÆGûÉGûÇGûêGûêGûêGûêGûîGûÇGûêGûêGûîGûÇGûÉGûêGûîGûêGûêGûêGûêGûîGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûî GûÆGûÆGûêGûÆGûÆGûÇGûêGûêGûÇGûÇGûÉGûêGûÉGûêGûîGûêGûîGûÇGûÇGûêGûêGûîGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûê GûÆGûÆGûêGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûî GûÆGûÆGûÆGûîGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûÇ GûÆGûÆGûÆGûÇGûäGûôGûôGûôGûÆGûêGûêGûêGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÇGûæGûôGûôGûÆGûÉGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûÇGûÇGûÆ GûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûæGûæGûÆGûÆGûÉGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûÇGûÇGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆ GûÆGûÆGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûÇGûÇGûÇGûÇGûÇGûÇGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆGûÆ GûÆGûÆGûÆGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûÆGûÆ |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.07.20 10:17:00 -
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Looking back on the whole 16 Q-Sync argument I'm in some ways still on the fence. It could theoretically help organised groups out a great deal considering they are already doing this anyway, at the same time it literally could make FW a player wherein the individual player has not place,,,,,
That's certainly not what I want, a peaceful (as peaceful and immortal clone warfare gets) it what the ideal medium would be. A system that allows a degree of flexibility for players who don't want to be tied down the a faction while presenting the options with appropriate tone and maturity while also actively benefiting those who do wish to work solely for a faction.
That being said I don't agree with Lvl 10 exclusive dropsuit skins and what not. That's not how FW should work, FW should only be measured in what you are willing to contribute to the faction and by what that faction offers you in return in LP. Nor am I a fan of having an Empire government just throw out 50,000,000 ISK packages at FW players
.....with that out of the way I can just wait for Smokey to tell me I'm a faction hopping pseudo pub star with no sense of loyalty. When this happens this thread will be complete for me.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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Daddrobit
You Can Call Me Daddy
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Posted - 2015.07.20 13:48:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:
.....with that out of the way I can just wait for Smokey to tell me I'm a faction hopping pseudo pub star with no sense of loyalty. When this happens this thread will be complete for me.
Aww hell True, I coulda' told you that!
O.G. Pink Fluffy Bunny
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Jammer Jalapeno
Kirjuun Heiian
257
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Posted - 2015.07.20 14:47:00 -
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Smokey Come Back!!!!!
MmMmMm Glitter
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Zan Azikuchi
G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance
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Posted - 2015.07.20 16:37:00 -
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Jammer Jalapeno wrote:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Smokey Come Back!!!!!
Please don't start singing.....
When there is light, shadow's lurk and fear reign's... Yet by the blade of knight's, mankind, was given hope.
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Smoky The Bear
THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2015.07.20 20:35:00 -
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Mina Longstrike wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:And yet you fail to mention what these 'problems' might be.. No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote:Rewarding level 10 faction loyalty with a special proto/advanced tier APEX suit won't make FW better. Putting 16 man platoons into FW won't make FW better. For the reasons listed below.
Caldari is currently stomping Gallente very hard. Even for new players, getting to rank 10 in Caldari will be much easier than it would be for someone in Gallente. If Caldari players get their special rank 10 proto APEX suit they'll start using that against the Gallente, which means they can continue their stomp without any risk of ISK loss, one of the few deterrents to running all proto all the time in FW, while the Gallente will still be struggling, still unable to reach rank 10 because you only get Faction Standing on a win, and be losing ISK to people who won't be losing anything.
16 man platoons being placed into FW won't improve match quality because... Caldari is currently stomping Gallente with 'q-syncs'. Let's say they've got somewhere between 12 and 16 people at any given time. They're matched together constantly, they're organized, they all know each other, know how to communicate, know how to take and give orders. They will generally beat unorganized teams. Allowing 16 man platoons into FW so that people can pull randoms from the Squad Finder won't give you an advantage. It will just give you a bunch of stupid green dots instead of stupid blue dots. Changing the color of the dot does not raise their intelligence. They will still have the solo player mindset. They will still want to be independent, and if they don't agree with your order they won't talk to you about it reasonably, they'll tell you you're stupid and just flat out ignore you. And you'll still be fighting against the exact same Caldari stompers who are currently winning with their 'q-syncs'. Right here ^^^. Special level 10 loyalty rank APEX suits will only make it easier for stompers to stomp, and 16 man platoons don't give randoms an advantage over organized players, it just gives them green dots instead of blue and makes getting a full stomp team organized easier for the people who already q-sync. These reasons are invalid sorry.. The benefits heavily outweigh your negatives that are extremely contrived and suspect.. Pretty sure u just want to continue playing for every faction... Pretty sure you average stomper won't take 6 month out of their life to grind for an advanced suit.. And we weren't talking about fixing pubstomping we were talking about fw.. Now **** off It is not your decision as to whether anothers arguments are invalid, that decision comes from a community of informed individuals... and the community of informed individuals is largely in disagreement with you. Gastons arguments are actually well supported and reasoned. We've asked you for clarifications, support for your arguments and reasoning behind said arguments... and you've failed to provide, everything said to you has been met with a resounding "LOL NOEP". You might want to take a look at this image: all of your arguments have been contradiction or below, none of us understand your reasoning because you've failed to explain it and you don't seem to want to listen to any arguments that actually refute yours.
Lolololol really? I have stated and restated..explained and re explained... It's not rocket science, just common sense an 8 year old could comprehend.. Maybe you should read again.. And you don't decide what the community asna whole agrees or disagreesnwith bish.. I see maybe 3 or 4 people and their alts taking random shots at me and refusing to address the actual post.. LIKE YOU.. Forum warriors whondont play the game clearly.. From fotm protostomping majority which is 90% in the game and 80% in life.. If we were only concerned with the majority, and fuq anyone who wants to have a different loadout than literally everyone reading this, we would have everyone doing the exact same crap.. No diversity at all.. O wait that's exactly what's already happening... You don't speak for me, or others who refuse to cave to the fotm protostomping forum majority , hence the post.. Nice try scrub |
Smoky The Bear
THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2015.07.20 20:45:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Looking back on the whole 16 Q-Sync argument I'm in some ways still on the fence. It could theoretically help organised groups out a great deal considering they are already doing this anyway, at the same time it literally could make FW a player wherein the individual player has not place,,,,,
That's certainly not what I want, a peaceful (as peaceful and immortal clone warfare gets) it what the ideal medium would be. A system that allows a degree of flexibility for players who don't want to be tied down the a faction while presenting the options with appropriate tone and maturity while also actively benefiting those who do wish to work solely for a faction.
That being said I don't agree with Lvl 10 exclusive dropsuit skins and what not. That's not how FW should work, FW should only be measured in what you are willing to contribute to the faction and by what that faction offers you in return in LP. Nor am I a fan of having an Empire government just throw out 50,000,000 ISK packages at FW players
.....with that out of the way I can just wait for Smokey to tell me I'm a faction hopping pseudo pub star with no sense of loyalty. When this happens this thread will be complete for me.
Wtf are you people stupid? Seriously.. 50 million packages? Wtf are you talking about? 50 mil was my suggestion to make it HARDER to buy the level 10 suit.. And half a mil lp too.. You don't want to be tied down to one faction? To get 'loyalty' points? Lolololol u realize that's a direct contradiction to the word? Clearly you are disloyal and don't need to be getting loyalty points ints cuz ur dumb..got it now? Asshat |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.07.20 22:00:00 -
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Smoky The Bear wrote:
Wtf are you people stupid? Seriously.. 50 million packages? Wtf are you talking about? 50 mil was my suggestion to make it HARDER to buy the level 10 suit.. And half a mil lp too.. You don't want to be tied down to one faction? To get 'loyalty' points? Lolololol u realize that's a direct contradiction to the word? Clearly you are disloyal and don't need to be getting loyalty points ints cuz ur dumb..got it now? Asshat
Sorry misinterpretation of your OP....that being said...... me disloyal? Clearly being in the oldest Pro-Amarr corporation/Alliance in the game, restricting myself to only Amarrian technology, and those 3 years of sticking to Amarr FW don't mean anything.
Thank you this thread is now complete.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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Victor889
WarRavens RUST415
284
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Posted - 2015.07.20 22:05:00 -
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I have never played FW
Once I realised you have to wait for up to 10 minutes for one game I simply didn't bother |
Smoky The Bear
THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2015.07.20 22:07:00 -
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Victor889 wrote:I have never played FW
Once I realised you have to wait for up to 10 minutes for one game I simply didn't bother
This is rarely the case these days.. Seems to be a full on sync waiting for the solos to q up.. |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.07.20 22:08:00 -
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Victor889 wrote:I have never played FW
Once I realised you have to wait for up to 10 minutes for one game I simply didn't bother
You don't really. Depending on the times you play you could be in matches within seconds, other times you have to wait all of 2-3 minutes.
I see a great deal of your corp members in FW going about their business. You should join them and fight for your faction.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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Smoky The Bear
THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2015.07.21 01:48:00 -
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Bit late for that unfortunately |
Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD RUST415
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Posted - 2015.07.21 04:29:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:They aren't loyalists, just followers... Starlights Nelo Squaggs Songs and more aren't followers also good bye make sure to biomass
Are they your hero's
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Smoky The Bear
THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo
247
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Posted - 2015.07.21 20:17:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:Golden Day wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:They aren't loyalists, just followers... Starlights Nelo Squaggs Songs and more aren't followers also good bye make sure to biomass Are they your hero's
Heroes don't use fotm while hiding behind proto syncs, so they can talk big to real players out here doing it.. I'm batman mofo.. Want my autograph? |
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.07.21 20:55:00 -
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Smoky The Bear wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:Golden Day wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:They aren't loyalists, just followers... Starlights Nelo Squaggs Songs and more aren't followers also good bye make sure to biomass Are they your hero's Heroes don't use fotm while hiding behind proto syncs, so they can talk big to real players out here doing it.. I'm batman mofo.. Want my autograph?
I think you genuinely don't understand the function of these kinds of players. They aren't there to be individually skilled players though some certainly are they function as organisers or even symbols of the faction. More than anything they are content providers though some like Kirk take it that step further and produce lore savvy youtube clips.
In FW individual skill has lack real and quantifiable merit when compared to the efforts of a fire team as more often than not a group of communicating players will always have a wide range of options for achieving the task at hand. Same can be said for individual performance in FW. It is no use scoring 18/2 or 15/0 in an HAV as I saw others doing over the weekend in our 6 man fire team's sole loss if it means you are compromising your ability to hold and objective or press one.
Moreover consider that in terms of what I run....... I've run the same things for 2.5 years. All Amarr suits and weapons all the time. I'm not about to skill out of them or sully 12 years of PIE Inc traditions because some asshats are calling it FoTM.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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VikingKong iBUN
0uter.Heaven
519
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Posted - 2015.07.21 21:33:00 -
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I think fighting for one faction reducing your standing for the opposing faction is definitely a thing that should be brought back. There is no loyalty any more.
I would like a Gallente SMG.
TUNNEL SNAKES RULE
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