DUST Search - Factional is broken..here's the Very EZ fix..

Smoky The Bear wrote:

No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote:

Smoky The Bear wrote:

And yet you fail to mention what these 'problems' might be..

No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote:

Rewarding level 10 faction loyalty with a special proto/advanced tier APEX suit won't make FW better. Putting 16 man platoons into FW won't make FW better. For the reasons listed below.

Caldari is currently stomping Gallente very hard. Even for new players, getting to rank 10 in Caldari will be much easier than it would be for someone in Gallente. If Caldari players get their special rank 10 proto APEX suit they'll start using that against the Gallente, which means they can continue their stomp without any risk of ISK loss, one of the few deterrents to running all proto all the time in FW, while the Gallente will still be struggling, still unable to reach rank 10 because you only get Faction Standing on a win, and be losing ISK to people who won't be losing anything.

16 man platoons being placed into FW won't improve match quality because... Caldari is currently stomping Gallente with 'q-syncs'. Let's say they've got somewhere between 12 and 16 people at any given time. They're matched together constantly, they're organized, they all know each other, know how to communicate, know how to take and give orders. They will generally beat unorganized teams. Allowing 16 man platoons into FW so that people can pull randoms from the Squad Finder won't give you an advantage. It will just give you a bunch of stupid green dots instead of stupid blue dots. Changing the color of the dot does not raise their intelligence. They will still have the solo player mindset. They will still want to be independent, and if they don't agree with your order they won't talk to you about it reasonably, they'll tell you you're stupid and just flat out ignore you. And you'll still be fighting against the exact same Caldari stompers who are currently winning with their 'q-syncs'.

Right here ^^^. Special level 10 loyalty rank APEX suits will only make it easier for stompers to stomp, and 16 man platoons don't give randoms an advantage over organized players, it just gives them green dots instead of blue and makes getting a full stomp team organized easier for the people who already q-sync.

These reasons are invalid sorry.. The benefits heavily outweigh your negatives that are extremely contrived and suspect..

Pretty sure u just want to continue playing for every faction...

Pretty sure you average stomper won't take 6 month out of their life to grind for an advanced suit.. And we weren't talking about fixing pubstomping we were talking about fw.. Now **** off


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MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.19 02:07:00 - [1] - Quote 1) Clarify please. 2) This isn't balanced 3) This isn't balanced, and it wouldn't fix any of the problems you're having in Gallente FW. In fact it would only lead to you being crushed even harder. Goodbye and good riddance. By the way I was thoroughly amused when you came into STF the other day and threw a tantrum about all the 'qsyncers' there (which we haven't had to actually do in a while), it was funny cause no one was on voice in the channel and five plus separate 8 man squads were running. This tantrum is incredibly ironic given your desire for 16man squads because that would just lead to you losing even worse and harder. Guess being a gallente loyalist isn't so good anymore now that it's no longer easy mode. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.20 06:38:00 - [2] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Smoky The Bear wrote: And yet you fail to mention what these 'problems' might be.. No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Rewarding level 10 faction loyalty with a special proto/advanced tier APEX suit won't make FW better. Putting 16 man platoons into FW won't make FW better. For the reasons listed below. Caldari is currently stomping Gallente very hard. Even for new players, getting to rank 10 in Caldari will be much easier than it would be for someone in Gallente. If Caldari players get their special rank 10 proto APEX suit they'll start using that against the Gallente, which means they can continue their stomp without any risk of ISK loss, one of the few deterrents to running all proto all the time in FW, while the Gallente will still be struggling, still unable to reach rank 10 because you only get Faction Standing on a win, and be losing ISK to people who won't be losing anything. 16 man platoons being placed into FW won't improve match quality because... Caldari is currently stomping Gallente with 'q-syncs'. Let's say they've got somewhere between 12 and 16 people at any given time. They're matched together constantly, they're organized, they all know each other, know how to communicate, know how to take and give orders. They will generally beat unorganized teams. Allowing 16 man platoons into FW so that people can pull randoms from the Squad Finder won't give you an advantage. It will just give you a bunch of stupid green dots instead of stupid blue dots. Changing the color of the dot does not raise their intelligence. They will still have the solo player mindset. They will still want to be independent, and if they don't agree with your order they won't talk to you about it reasonably, they'll tell you you're stupid and just flat out ignore you. And you'll still be fighting against the exact same Caldari stompers who are currently winning with their 'q-syncs'. Right here ^^^. Special level 10 loyalty rank APEX suits will only make it easier for stompers to stomp, and 16 man platoons don't give randoms an advantage over organized players, it just gives them green dots instead of blue and makes getting a full stomp team organized easier for the people who already q-sync. These reasons are invalid sorry.. The benefits heavily outweigh your negatives that are extremely contrived and suspect.. Pretty sure u just want to continue playing for every faction... Pretty sure you average stomper won't take 6 month out of their life to grind for an advanced suit.. And we weren't talking about fixing pubstomping we were talking about fw.. Now ** off It is not your decision as to whether anothers arguments are invalid, that decision comes from a community of informed individuals... and the community of informed individuals is largely in disagreement with you. Gastons arguments are actually well supported and reasoned. We've asked you for clarifications, support for your arguments and reasoning behind said arguments... and you've failed to provide, everything said to you has been met with a resounding "LOL NOEP". You might want to take a look at this image: all of your arguments have been contradiction or below, none of us understand your reasoning because you've failed to explain it and you don't seem to want to listen to any arguments that actually refute yours. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.** I have a few alts.