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JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 737	Posted - 2015.06.23 02:43:00 - [1] - Quote We've been going off CCP's words for a few months now but I'm getting tired of being caldera. And why is a ScR +20 to shields if shields stack less than armor. Caldari Loyalist. ( -í° -£-û -í°) They see me rollin they Hating (..) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (..)
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.06.23 02:46:00 - [2] - Quote JARREL THOMAS wrote: We've been going off CCP's words for a few months now but I'm getting tired of being caldera. And why is a ScR +20 to shields if shields stack less than armor. Because Explosives are +20% vs Armoured Targets. "Crush all who complain!" `- Arkena Wyrnspire`
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 6	Posted - 2015.06.23 02:47:00 - [3] - Quote EvE online "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
Sicerly Yaw Quantum times 331	Posted - 2015.06.23 02:47:00 - [4] - Quote no one said you had to stick with caldari, you can always buy a respec the way I see it I can only get better, if I am playing "hard mode" and doing well with it then I'll just be that much better if it ever does get buffed otherwise I will still do well regardless even if I happen to be at a disadvantage it's a challenge that I'm willing to take head on https://dust514.com/recruit/kWK05m/
thor424 Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 460	Posted - 2015.06.23 02:54:00 - [5] - Quote When the port is announced
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 737	Posted - 2015.06.23 02:55:00 - [6] - Quote Sicerly Yaw wrote: no one said you had to stick with caldari, you can always buy a respec the way I see it I can only get better, if I am playing "hard mode" and doing well with it then I'll just be that much better if it ever does get buffed otherwise I will still do well regardless even if I happen to be at a disadvantage it's a challenge that I'm willing to take head on So your answer is get a respect I'm sorry but that's just ridiculous hard-mode mpg whatever I don't care what you say nothing will convince me otherwise those things are OP that's fact and they should be fixed already its been months since the Nerf was confirmed its beginning to seem like legion. Caldari Loyalist. ( -í° -£-û -í°) They see me rollin they Hating (..) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (..)
Eruditus 920 Nemo Malus Felix 2	Posted - 2015.06.23 02:57:00 - [7] - Quote It's not really being nerfed. CCP is just moving numbers around. It's called "sleight of hand". "Now run along son, you bother me. Step right up...." "Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
Vesta Opalus Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 803	Posted - 2015.06.23 02:57:00 - [8] - Quote True Adamance wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: We've been going off CCP's words for a few months now but I'm getting tired of being caldera. And why is a ScR +20 to shields if shields stack less than armor. Because Explosives are +20% vs Armoured Targets. Which would matter if explosives had anywhere near the dps, range, and direct zippy zap laser accuracy a scrambler does
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 737	Posted - 2015.06.23 02:59:00 - [9] - Quote True Adamance wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: We've been going off CCP's words for a few months now but I'm getting tired of being caldera. And why is a ScR +20 to shields if shields stack less than armor. Because Explosives are +20% vs Armoured Targets. Fair enough. But they need some tuning super range, damage and rate of fire kind of seem to be a bit much. Caldari Loyalist. ( -í° -£-û -í°) They see me rollin they Hating (..) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (..)
Squagga Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 816	Posted - 2015.06.23 03:06:00 - [10] - Quote Why is the most op shield weapon in the game +20 against shields, when the only race that is shield based barely does any explosives? C'mon man, you know times is tough for the Caldari. Been tryin to get a shield buff for months now. Oh, not to mention ARs are getting a buff too. Smh. But people are pretty convinced the bolt pistol needs a nerf Shields, the silent killer.

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.06.23 03:22:00 - [11] - Quote Vesta Opalus wrote: True Adamance wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: We've been going off CCP's words for a few months now but I'm getting tired of being caldera. And why is a ScR +20 to shields if shields stack less than armor. Because Explosives are +20% vs Armoured Targets. Which would matter if explosives had anywhere near the dps, range, and direct zippy zap laser accuracy a scrambler does And yet I distinctly recall all of those instant death Core Locus and Contact Grenades as well as the period of time during which the Mass Driver was arguably one of the most potent weapons in the game. This tit for tat nonsense gets up nowhere though. "Crush all who complain!" `- Arkena Wyrnspire`
MrCriminal High Power 51	Posted - 2015.06.23 03:35:00 - [12] - Quote Aww more complaints about SCRs. Make me so happy to see cal assaults whine 24/7. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ¤.°n+ín+ƒGÿåGùÅ°.LASERS BTCH!!!!!! El Diablo 666
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 737	Posted - 2015.06.23 03:42:00 - [13] - Quote MrCriminal High Power wrote: Aww more complaints about SCRs. Make me so happy to see cal assaults whine 24/7. Shut up, your whining about my whining fixes nothing. Caldari Loyalist. ( -í° -£-û -í°) They see me rollin they Hating (..) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (..)
MrCriminal High Power 51	Posted - 2015.06.23 03:44:00 - [14] - Quote JARREL THOMAS wrote: MrCriminal High Power wrote: Aww more complaints about SCRs. Make me so happy to see cal assaults whine 24/7. Shut up, your whining about my whining fixes nothing. I'm not whining I'm laughing cause Cal users whine about SCRs more than anyone. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ¤.°n+ín+ƒGÿåGùÅ°.LASERS BTCH!!!!!! El Diablo 666
Reign Omega T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1	Posted - 2015.06.23 03:45:00 - [15] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: It's not really being nerfed. CCP is just moving numbers around. It's called "sleight of hand". "Now run along son, you bother me. Step right up...." Prestidigitation. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 737	Posted - 2015.06.23 04:12:00 - [16] - Quote MrCriminal High Power wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: MrCriminal High Power wrote: Aww more complaints about SCRs. Make me so happy to see cal assaults whine 24/7. Shut up, your whining about my whining fixes nothing. I'm not whining I'm laughing cause Cal users whine about SCRs more than anyone. I wonder why Caldari Loyalist. ( -í° -£-û -í°) They see me rollin they Hating (..) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (..)
Vesta Opalus Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 804	Posted - 2015.06.23 04:17:00 - [17] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Vesta Opalus wrote: True Adamance wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: We've been going off CCP's words for a few months now but I'm getting tired of being caldera. And why is a ScR +20 to shields if shields stack less than armor. Because Explosives are +20% vs Armoured Targets. Which would matter if explosives had anywhere near the dps, range, and direct zippy zap laser accuracy a scrambler does And yet I distinctly recall all of those instant death Core Locus and Contact Grenades as well as the period of time during which the Mass Driver was arguably one of the most potent weapons in the game. This tit for tat nonsense gets up nowhere though. And then they got nerfed. Just like the SCR will be. Whats your point?
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.06.23 04:22:00 - [18] - Quote Vesta Opalus wrote: True Adamance wrote: Vesta Opalus wrote: True Adamance wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: We've been going off CCP's words for a few months now but I'm getting tired of being caldera. And why is a ScR +20 to shields if shields stack less than armor. Because Explosives are +20% vs Armoured Targets. Which would matter if explosives had anywhere near the dps, range, and direct zippy zap laser accuracy a scrambler does And yet I distinctly recall all of those instant death Core Locus and Contact Grenades as well as the period of time during which the Mass Driver was arguably one of the most potent weapons in the game. This tit for tat nonsense gets up nowhere though. And then they got nerfed. Just like the SCR will be. Whats your point? No point. Just reminding people of what was so that they can consider the irony of their own statements was while they whine about what is. "Crush all who complain!" `- Arkena Wyrnspire`
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 2	Posted - 2015.06.23 07:45:00 - [19] - Quote CCP shanghai doesnt like shields thus never MrCriminal High Power wrote: I am whining but pretendingin I am not fixed
Kiiran-B Seraphim Initiative. 219	Posted - 2015.06.23 10:08:00 - [20] - Quote Hehehe it even melts armour in rapid time. A Scram takes off shield and arnour faster than a Rail takes down just armour. LOLZ Although we all know what's going to happen: CCP will nerf the Scram to death and it'll be AR514 again. Don't ya just love devs? Xxxxx

ThePlayerkyle13 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 218	Posted - 2015.06.23 11:08:00 - [21] - Quote JARREL THOMAS wrote: We've been going off CCP's words for a few months now but I'm getting tired of being caldera. And why is a ScR +20 to shields if shields stack less than armor. I don't know why you're complaining, your Rail Rife can outmatch the ScR at range & as a Caldari you suppose to stay distant from your opponents, the RR can actually destroy Amarr armor if you can hold the Kick, I have a Caldari Alt Character & i'm doing pretty well, I'm playing racially btw, like focusing on Shield tanking like the Caldari do, but i could say is that the shields need some love, considering armour been getting loads of that...
Spaceman-Rob Dead Man's Game 843	Posted - 2015.06.23 11:50:00 - [22] - Quote Scrambler is a joke and anyone who uses it and thinks they're good are a joke too.
FabryX10 Eliters Brotherhood RUST415 149	Posted - 2015.06.23 12:07:00 - [23] - Quote ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: We've been going off CCP's words for a few months now but I'm getting tired of being caldera. And why is a ScR +20 to shields if shields stack less than armor. I don't know why you're complaining, your Rail Rife can outmatch the ScR at range & as a Caldari you suppose to stay distant from your opponents, the RR can actually destroy Amarr armor if you can hold the Kick, I have a Caldari Alt Character & i'm doing pretty well, I'm playing racially btw, like focusing on Shield tanking like the Caldari do, but i could say is that the shields need some love, considering armour been getting loads of that... Rail rifle doesn't have a charge shot that do 4x damage! I think that charge shot should be removed/nerfed to balance scr. @CCP Rattati: How to fix Assault's shields
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 10	Posted - 2015.06.23 12:10:00 - [24] - Quote True Adamance wrote: whining But better balance is a step in the right direction, right? Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.06.23 12:17:00 - [25] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: True Adamance wrote: whining But better balance is a step in the right direction, right? I want to see data from CCP before the scrambler gets nerfed. The market data doesn't support a nerf.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 10	Posted - 2015.06.23 12:20:00 - [26] - Quote Varoth Drac wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: True Adamance wrote: whining But better balance is a step in the right direction, right? I want to see data from CCP before the scrambler gets nerfed. The market data doesn't support a nerf. Rattati has mentioned disproportionate kill/spawn efficiency more than once now, IIRC. Do you think ScR Efficiency might have changed? Edit: Came across another thread which suggested holding off on AR buffs until we've seen what comes of strafe changes. If this point were successfully argued to Rattati, stands to reason that the same "wait-and-see" argument might be made for the ScR. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.06.23 12:41:00 - [27] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Rattati has mentioned disproportionate kill/spawn efficiency more than once now, IIRC. Do you think ScR Efficiency might have changed? Edit: Came across another thread which suggested holding off on AR buffs until we've seen what comes of strafe changes. If this point were successfully argued to Rattati, stands to reason that the same "wait-and-see" argument might be made for the ScR. He has mentioned it, but it was quite a while ago and he didn't give us the data. Things do change, though I don't think much will have affected the scrambler rifle. Strafe changes may well, as they are likely to affect everything. It might take some time for the effects of that change to stabilise. Regardless, it would be nice to know that up to date data supports a balancing change before one is implemented.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 10	Posted - 2015.06.23 12:43:00 - [28] - Quote Varoth Drac wrote: ... it would be nice to know that up to date data supports a balancing change before one is implemented. Absolutely agree. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
Loyal Glasses G.L.O.R.Y 79	Posted - 2015.06.23 12:50:00 - [29] - Quote Would it not be an easy fix if we went with EVE damage profiles? Glasses of the Loyal Variety > "The dead are notoriously unproductive "
ThePlayerkyle13 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 218	Posted - 2015.06.23 12:53:00 - [30] - Quote FabryX10 wrote: ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: We've been going off CCP's words for a few months now but I'm getting tired of being caldera. And why is a ScR +20 to shields if shields stack less than armor. I don't know why you're complaining, your Rail Rife can outmatch the ScR at range & as a Caldari you suppose to stay distant from your opponents, the RR can actually destroy Amarr armor if you can hold the Kick, I have a Caldari Alt Character & i'm doing pretty well, I'm playing racially btw, like focusing on Shield tanking like the Caldari do, but i could say is that the shields need some love, considering armour been getting loads of that... Rail rifle doesn't have a charge shot that do 4x damage! I think that charge shot should be removed/nerfed to balance scr. Dude the ScR overheats like a motherfcker (if you're not using a Assault Suit), the gun is fine as it is & since i use the gun everyday it's not as powerful as you think it is, unless Mr Rattitaki himself can pull up statistics that encourages any changes to the gun then fine. Oh and the charge shot does 2x the damage, with the Headshot it's 4x, plus that's suppose to be the purpose of the weapon & hence the name "Scrambler", because it scrambles brains, even the developer that designed the gun said that during one of their Dev Vlogs... Oh and just one dude saying "I keep getting killed by this gun, NERF NERF!!! Whine* Whine" isn't going to encourage any changes...



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