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Jade Dragonis
GRIM MERCS
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Posted - 2015.06.11 05:48:00 -
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I Doubt it cause it wont make them as much money as silly skins.
+1 if you want new heavy weapons as well.
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
24
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Posted - 2015.06.11 06:47:00 -
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I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat.
It was kind of fun.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Galm Fae
Eskola Ergonomics
408
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Posted - 2015.06.11 06:51:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat.
It was kind of fun. So... Like a big laser flashlight then? Because if that's what you're going for I give you The Batlight!
Part baseball bat, part flashlight. All Batlight.
Seriously though, maybe a heavy melee weapon isn't a bad idea.
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Ra ra ra!
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SLENDER M4N
Xer Cloud Consortium
555
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Posted - 2015.06.11 06:56:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat.
It was kind of fun. Take that idea, but add more minmatar to it. 3 bursts of awesome with a small clip and a reasonable reload time. Wait....I think we have that gun already
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Thaddeus Reynolds
Facepunch Security
290
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Posted - 2015.06.11 07:08:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat.
It was kind of fun.
Do I sense a multi-laser?
Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper.
Vehicle Re-vamp Proposal
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Jack Boost
Zarena Family
839
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Posted - 2015.06.11 07:32:00 -
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Peak-and-boo with stake-burst-gun?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQc7x8eY5Aw
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DJIPS
Affectionate Moon Warmth Gentle Earth
13
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Posted - 2015.06.11 07:38:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat.
It was kind of fun.
Can that weapon use charge burst ?
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VAHZZ
Corrosive Synergy No Context
2
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Posted - 2015.06.11 07:49:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat.
It was kind of fun.
Make that a Scrambler Lance bruh.
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Ceadda Sai
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
115
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Posted - 2015.06.11 08:24:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:[quote=CCP Rattati] Seriously though, maybe a heavy melee weapon isn't a bad idea.
Can we give heavys a giant hammer??? Like a seriously big one.
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Galm Fae
Eskola Ergonomics
408
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Posted - 2015.06.11 08:33:00 -
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Ceadda Sai wrote:Galm Fae wrote:[quote=CCP Rattati] Seriously though, maybe a heavy melee weapon isn't a bad idea. Can we give heavys a giant hammer??? Like a seriously big one. Like this?
We shall call it Mjolnir.
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Teknikiara!
Kanpai kameitsamuu!
Ra ra ra!
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The Eristic
Art.of.Death
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Posted - 2015.06.11 08:36:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat.
It was kind of fun.
This seems like it could also be the basis for a light Burst Scrambler Rifle variant, with rounds in the burst increasing with charge. Similarly, have you tried making a heavy Scrambler charge up, then fire a beam laser for X seconds based on charge? Also, 100% AV efficiency?
Reality is the original Rorschach.
Verily! So much for all that.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
3
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Posted - 2015.06.11 08:54:00 -
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So like a destiny fusion rifle?
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
24
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Posted - 2015.06.11 08:58:00 -
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DJIPS wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat.
It was kind of fun. Can that weapon use charge burst ?
Sadly no, that was literally what I was aiming for
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Isaac Fernandez
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.06.11 09:19:00 -
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I take you having those type of ideas and testing them as a very good sign of progress. Having that said the scrambler rifle is for lack of a more accurate concept "too op" and it has been for a really long time, I would not like to meet his big brother. P.S. nerf that thing already.
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Mina Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
3
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Posted - 2015.06.11 09:26:00 -
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So I'm not sure how the architecture is set up rattati... but is it not possible to run both a rail-rifle style spool-up alongside an amarr style weapons heat?
So have whatever you want the spool-up to be. Set the fire rate INSANELY high. Set the max heat value very low and the overheat sieze to whatever you want it to be, so that it's practically guaranteed to overheat once it gets its 'burst' off, but that just means you have to 'reset' after the (lets say .2s) overheat.
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WeapondigitX V7
The Exemplars
428
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Posted - 2015.06.11 09:48:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:DJIPS wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat.
It was kind of fun. Can that weapon use charge burst ? Sadly no, that was literally what I was aiming for
here is a way to mostly mimic that weapon you wanted rattati
make the heavy Scrambler weapon act like a rail rifle with a charge up of approx. 2.5 seconds. Give it a high full auto ROF, give it a large heat cost, give it a large amount of default damage per bullet, small clip size of 24-30, and very quick cooldown rates like the ion pistol (when it does not sieze up), give it long sieze duration (approx 10 seconds) and moderate sieze damage (approx. 100 hp damage). It might not increase in damage per bullet after every consecutive bullet is fired. It also does not have a duel function of either (charging up and firing burst of bullets) and (firing a burst of uncharged bullets). But it is similar. I think players would be happy with it. It mimics are high DPS burst weapon.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
9
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Posted - 2015.06.11 10:16:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:DJIPS wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat.
It was kind of fun. Can that weapon use charge burst ? Sadly no, that was literally what I was aiming for
You accepting submissions?
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H No Context
653
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Posted - 2015.06.11 10:20:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat.
It was kind of fun. The Scrambler Lance?! Raticate, you now have my undying attention
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DJIPS
Affectionate Moon Warmth Gentle Earth
13
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Posted - 2015.06.11 10:27:00 -
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Hmm...
By the way, Is there any ideas or tests of Gal heavy weapon ?
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Nirwanda Vaughns
1
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Posted - 2015.06.11 10:27:00 -
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we just need a Heavy shield based AV. Gallente Plasma Forge or an Ammar Laser Forge would be nice. Laser/Scrambler probs be nice. Charge up and a big single shot to put the hurt of Pythons and Gunnlogis
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gabriel login
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
96
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Posted - 2015.06.11 10:28:00 -
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what i would like to know is who is making it an whos the target an what effect it has on the targets stats. you cant just build a gun an give it random numbers as damage, you must be able to see the weapons, suits an gear as all one, you must think of the game like a real world an put your self in the seat of a real weapons builder, you must ask what is it like on the battle field an what problems a weapon or suit might face. like mobility, power use,how much cpu use, an ammo max an use , what the suit it was made to beat, the suite that counters it , an the suite that is so. you must ask things like what is the ammo type, the damage type , what each stat is doing to both counter an aid the weapon as well as the suit. only then when you see it all like that then balance will be found. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
9
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Posted - 2015.06.11 10:33:00 -
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gabriel login wrote:what i would like to know is who is making it an whos the target an what effect it has on the targets stats. you cant just build a gun an give it random numbers as damage, you must be able to see the weapons, suits an gear as all one, you must think of the game like a real world an put your self in the seat of a real weapons builder, you must ask what is it like on the battle field an what problems a weapon or suit might face. like mobility, power use,how much cpu use, an ammo max an use , what the suit it was made to beat, the suite that counters it , an the suite that is so. you must ask things like what is the ammo type, the damage type , what each stat is doing to both counter an aid the weapon as well as the suit. only then when you see it all like that then balance will be found.
What the ever living bejeezuz are you talking about? He was testing a concept weapon, not invalidating balance concerns.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
3
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Posted - 2015.06.11 10:51:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:gabriel login wrote:what i would like to know is who is making it an whos the target an what effect it has on the targets stats. you cant just build a gun an give it random numbers as damage, you must be able to see the weapons, suits an gear as all one, you must think of the game like a real world an put your self in the seat of a real weapons builder, you must ask what is it like on the battle field an what problems a weapon or suit might face. like mobility, power use,how much cpu use, an ammo max an use , what the suit it was made to beat, the suite that counters it , an the suite that is so. you must ask things like what is the ammo type, the damage type , what each stat is doing to both counter an aid the weapon as well as the suit. only then when you see it all like that then balance will be found. What the ever living bejeezuz are you talking about? He was testing a concept weapon, not invalidating balance concerns.
Specifically he was trying to get firing mechanics to work properly for the weapon he wants to make. Charged burst fire from what it sounds like.
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Omega Nox
Consolidated Dust
85
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Posted - 2015.06.11 10:53:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:DJIPS wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat.
It was kind of fun. Can that weapon use charge burst ? Sadly no, that was literally what I was aiming for
take a RR model, make it approximate the bolt pistol in function and make it a Cal heavy. US SOF uses the mk46 use it as a reference and it's characteristics as opposed to a RL hmg.
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H No Context
654
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Posted - 2015.06.11 10:54:00 -
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gabriel login wrote:what i would like to know is who is making it an whos the target an what effect it has on the targets stats. you cant just build a gun an give it random numbers as damage, you must be able to see the weapons, suits an gear as all one, you must think of the game like a real world an put your self in the seat of a real weapons builder, you must ask what is it like on the battle field an what problems a weapon or suit might face. like mobility, power use,how much cpu use, an ammo max an use , what the suit it was made to beat, the suite that counters it , an the suite that is so. you must ask things like what is the ammo type, the damage type , what each stat is doing to both counter an aid the weapon as well as the suit. only then when you see it all like that then balance will be found. He isn't even sure if he made the weapon the way he wanted it yet you're already crying its OP? For crying out loud man, you "SCRUMBLERZ IS OP" people are getting really annoying
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H No Context
654
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Posted - 2015.06.11 10:55:00 -
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Omega Nox wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:DJIPS wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat.
It was kind of fun. Can that weapon use charge burst ? Sadly no, that was literally what I was aiming for take a RR model, make it approximate the bolt pistol in function and make it a Cal heavy. US SOF uses the mk46 use it as a reference and it's characteristics as opposed to a RL hmg. You already have a heavy weapon,its Amarr and Gallente's turn
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Mina Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
3
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Posted - 2015.06.11 11:08:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:Omega Nox wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:DJIPS wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat.
It was kind of fun. Can that weapon use charge burst ? Sadly no, that was literally what I was aiming for take a RR model, make it approximate the bolt pistol in function and make it a Cal heavy. US SOF uses the mk46 use it as a reference and it's characteristics as opposed to a RL hmg. You already have a heavy weapon,its Amarr and Gallente's turn
TBH I think all races should have a heavy AI and AV weapon. A twin-linked heavy rail weapon could work pretty well for caldari.
Give it a big magazine and only a moderate RoF, have its targeting reticule be something like ( o o ) when moving but as you stand still (or 'aim' it) the individual rails align so it goes like (o o) to (oo), maybe something like 230-240dps per rail. This allows it to be used at long range without being 'OP' because it's likely only hitting with one rail (but it has the magazine to do it ALL DAY LONG) but as targets get closer it can bring that second rail into play causing it to do substantially more DPS.
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H No Context
654
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Posted - 2015.06.11 11:43:00 -
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Mina Longstrike wrote:TBH I think all races should have a heavy AI and AV weapon. A twin-linked heavy rail weapon could work pretty well for caldari.
Give it a big magazine and only a moderate RoF, have its targeting reticule be something like ( o o ) when moving but as you stand still (or 'aim' it) the individual rails align so it goes like (o o) to (oo), maybe something like 230-240dps per rail. This allows it to be used at long range without being 'OP' because it's likely only hitting with one rail (but it has the magazine to do it ALL DAY LONG) but as targets get closer it can bring that second rail into play causing it to do substantially more DPS. Heavy anti infantry and anti vehicle weapons would be a dream come true
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
6
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Posted - 2015.06.11 12:10:00 -
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Public Service Announcement for any Sentinels reading this thread
The Scout community has long had The Barbershop thread in the Locker Room forum to discuss Scout balancing and other Scout issues internally. Rattati has taken to using The Barbershop as a focus group when he is trying to get feedback on Scout balancing ideas.
Now we Sentinels have our own hangout, called The Bastion. If you consider yourself a Sentinel, then drop by The Bastion and let us know what Sentinel suits you run so we can add you to the Sentinel Registry. The Bastion is a great place to talk about Heavy weapons with other Sentinels and to discus the prose and cons of various fits, etc.
Rattati has already started using The Bastion as a Sentinel Focus group, and posts there when he is making a change effecting Sentinels.
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Omega Nox
Consolidated Dust
85
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Posted - 2015.06.11 12:57:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat.
It was kind of fun.
I can appreciate the constraints that you and your team face in regards to resource allocation, so please just let me throw this out.
Since the Caldari are alinged with the Ammar would it be lore friendly to take the forge model and make it into a shot gun of sorts? a lot of small plasma particles being realeased in burst.
at your ZERO'd range these plasma particles would concentrate and give maximum damage, then after the zero point start to spread again, the spread pattern is an X with the crossing being your zero'd point.
since maximum damage is a distant point, the damage profile up close would be more like " Bird shot" .
Seize it at 3 bursts, but allow melee?
the blast animation should be insane!
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Clobnarr
Art.of.Death
27
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Posted - 2015.06.11 13:02:00 -
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Ceadda Sai wrote:Galm Fae wrote:[quote=CCP Rattati] Seriously though, maybe a heavy melee weapon isn't a bad idea. Can we give heavys a giant hammer??? Like a seriously big one.
Jumpy heavy + giant hammer = Smash Bros style f*** you up
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Omega Nox
Consolidated Dust
85
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Posted - 2015.06.11 13:10:00 -
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Clobnarr wrote:Ceadda Sai wrote:Galm Fae wrote:[quote=CCP Rattati] Seriously though, maybe a heavy melee weapon isn't a bad idea. Can we give heavys a giant hammer??? Like a seriously big one. Jumpy heavy + giant hammer = Smash Bros style f*** you up
In the blue corner weighing in at a svelt 246kg Clobber "the Hammer" Clobnarr....and in the red corner, Glitchy "The Scout" Finklemen.......let's get ready to rummmmbllle!
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ANAHEIM Darko
Corrosive Synergy No Context
750
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Posted - 2015.06.11 13:15:00 -
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I'm not a huge fan of melee weapons. Nova Knives make sense, but a heavy suit with a giant hammer? Really?
I'll stick to my Freedom AHMG thank you.
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ANAHEIM Darko
Corrosive Synergy No Context
750
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Posted - 2015.06.11 13:17:00 -
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What I'd really like to see though is Amarr/Gallente heavy weapons before we see more Min/Cal variants.
Scrambler lance for Amarr (Anti-Infantry), and some sort of anti-vehicle plasma weapon for the Gallente. 2 AI, 2 AV. Balance.
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MrCriminal High Power
Art.of.Death
44
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Posted - 2015.06.11 13:40:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat.
It was kind of fun. Yes the Amarr will finally get their own HMG.!!
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Koch Rosenzweig
THE LAST H0PE. RUST415
221
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Posted - 2015.06.11 13:44:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat.
It was kind of fun.
Damm, Ratis, you are a beast, keep with da gud work
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Tech Ohm Eaven
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.06.11 13:47:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat.
It was kind of fun.
thanks but not what i had in mind three years ago
three years ago i asked for the logi healing gun to work on enemies by slowing them down and DISrepairing enemy shields-armor
along with a heavy laser weapon with a full frontal shield module but only at 180 degrees leaving the other 180 degrees vulnerable
just a few lines of code to turn a regular laser into a heavy weapon laser just a few lines of code for a heavy laser shield module
but always no
thanks for your hard work on dust 514 but these days i game on the ps4
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idlerowl
Old-Type Loud and Dawn
23
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Posted - 2015.06.11 15:08:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:DJIPS wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat.
It was kind of fun. Can that weapon use charge burst ? Sadly no, that was literally what I was aiming for
Huum..... That heavy weapon is Amarr. Gallente heavy weapon is comming same time ...? And forge gun rebalance ..?
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
2
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Posted - 2015.06.11 15:10:00 -
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Jade Dragonis wrote:I Doubt it cause it wont make them as much money as silly skins.
+1 if you want new heavy weapons as well.
Performance before new toys,
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Nirwanda Vaughns
1
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Posted - 2015.06.11 15:20:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat.
It was kind of fun. thanks but not what i had in mind three years ago three years ago i asked for the logi healing gun to work on enemies by slowing them down and DISrepairing enemy shields-armor
sounds like the stasis webbifier idea i had many moons ago too. works similar to the EVE version where its a targetted beam that slows enemy vehicles down by a fixed %age depending on meta level. the rep tool model could be used and it'd encourage more 2nd gunners in order to shoot at infantry webbing you
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Jade Dragonis
GRIM MERCS
450
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Posted - 2015.06.11 15:24:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Jade Dragonis wrote:I Doubt it cause it wont make them as much money as silly skins.
+1 if you want new heavy weapons as well. Performance before new toys,
2 years of performance work ........ its time........
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Scheneighnay McBob
Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary
7
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Posted - 2015.06.11 20:05:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat.
It was kind of fun. This is just playing around with existing models, right?
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2015.06.11 20:10:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat.
It was kind of fun.
Make the swarms and PLC heavy weapons.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary
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Posted - 2015.06.11 20:17:00 -
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DJIPS wrote:Hmm... By the way, Is there any ideas or tests of Gal heavy weapon ? I want powerful flamethrower ! It's called the plasma mortar.
That's all we know
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Scheneighnay McBob
Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary
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Posted - 2015.06.11 20:18:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat.
It was kind of fun. Make the swarms and PLC heavy weapons. Actual rocket launchers are actually pretty light.
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Thokk Nightshade
Montana Militia
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Posted - 2015.06.11 20:49:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat.
It was kind of fun. Make the swarms and PLC heavy weapons.
Swarm that is single fire and will lock on to clones. Low ROF, 200-250 DPS. Lol
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Thokk Nightshade
Montana Militia
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Posted - 2015.06.11 20:57:00 -
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Give us the Javelin from Iron Man as a heavy weapon. Shoots 1 round using R1, L1 to detonate (like an RE) and it rains down individual mortars in a circular pattern that explode on impact. Higher the detonation, bitter spread. Closer to ground, more concentrated. Must be initially set off 10 M or higher to allow activstion. 5-7-9 shells for std/adv/pri. 7 meter blast radius per shell, 300 DPS. 1 round magazine, 20 second reload time, 8 rounds carried.
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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge No Context
1
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Posted - 2015.06.11 20:58:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:we just need a Heavy shield based AV. Gallente Plasma Forge or an Ammar Laser Forge would be nice. Laser/Scrambler probs be nice. Charge up and a big single shot to put the hurt of Pythons and Gunnlogis What if we used the existing forge gun, changed it to a red ball and called it a laser forge?
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.11 21:06:00 -
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My vote is either chicken launcher or burrito bomber. Target hit by burrito bomber overwhelmed with burrito goodness: 40 percent penalty to movement.
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H No Context
661
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Posted - 2015.06.11 21:10:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:My vote is either chicken launcher or burrito bomber. Target hit by burrito bomber overwhelmed with burrito goodness: 40 percent penalty to movement. I wouldn't call being rained on by burrito a penalty
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William Harold
highland marines Immortals of War
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Posted - 2015.06.11 21:54:00 -
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Omega Nox wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:DJIPS wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat.
It was kind of fun. Can that weapon use charge burst ? Sadly no, that was literally what I was aiming for take a RR model, make it approximate the bolt pistol in function and make it a Cal heavy. US SOF uses the mk46/mk48 use the 48 as a reference and it's characteristics as opposed to a RL hmg, with the bolt pistols trigger characteristics. While the mk 46 uses NATO 5.56, the mk48 uses a 7.62, it would be a long range, heavy hitting weapon with accuracy, but limited by the bolt pistols trigger characteristics. Lore + risk/reward. Rail guns in the real world do not have recoil, they use smaller projectiles and kill by kinetic energy as opposed to high recoil, high ROF, high caliber "rifled" weapons. the problem with balancing the RR's in dust is the use of high caliber, high ROF and high damage at the expense of handling. Make it an accurate, long range kinetic kill weapon with a lower ROF-make this work and you'll be able to fix infanty/assault variants with the same lower ROF, accuracy, long range, and kinetic ability. A MK.48-type of weapon would be cool as hell and true SAW-like addition to DUST.
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
1
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:35:00 -
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I feel like the Heavy weapons should be divided into Heavy Anti-Personnel and Heavy Anti-Vehicle.
We have two heavy weapons right now.
The Minmatar HMG, clearly an Anti-Personnel weapon that you could argue is effective against personnel.
The Caldari Forge Gun, clearly an Anti-Vehicle weapon that you could argue is effective against vehicles.
The Caldari Forge Gun however is NOT effective against personnel as a conventional weapon. You can kill people with it, no duh, but it's not effective at all at doing that.
The Caldari deserve a heavy weapon that is efficient for Anti-Personnel battles.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
9
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:38:00 -
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the terrifying thing is what rattati's describing actually matches one of the weapon proposals I submitted through the CPM. Described slightly different, of course, but charge-burst-fire
I am horridly, morbidly curious to see if that's where this idea came from.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
G0DS AM0NG MEN New Eden's Heros
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Posted - 2015.06.11 23:06:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat.
It was kind of fun. The heavy weapon should have slightly more damage per shot than its light varient if the ROF isn't much higher.
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deezy dabest
2
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Posted - 2015.06.11 23:18:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat.
It was kind of fun.
I feel like this weapon wold not be very popular. Having one chance to hit a scout before his combat rifle shreds through your suit just seems like a big no go. Since it is a laser weapon it will either end up seriously under powered against armor or shield users will scream for a nerf until the end of all time.
Amarr heavies (and really all of them in general) need a new cqc weapon. It is VERY boring knowing that if you plan on doing point defense you are just going to be sitting there with a HMG waiting on a scout to assault you.
If you want to just mesh something together just make a laser HMG. AScR + HMG would mean we atleast have an option in the heavy suit. |
Darken-Sol
Intruder Excluder
1
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Posted - 2015.06.11 23:31:00 -
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A breach shotgun with more rounds. Better range and mediocre reload.
Crush them
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Greiv Rabbah
ROGUE RELICS
320
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Posted - 2015.06.14 18:12:00 -
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DJIPS wrote:Hmm... By the way, Is there any ideas or tests of Gal heavy weapon ? I want powerful flamethrower !
have been suggesting a flamethrower for over 2 years. would be a great idea i think, if implemented well. extreme close range (in line with blaster tech) cone of death (in line with heavy weapons) increasing damage over time (in line with weapons that cook an enemy) with overheat (in line with weapons that generate massive power through usage) but no seize (providing opportunities to overheat weapon in order to finish off an opponent) and deals double damage to user once it overheats (in order to balance out lack of seize).
theres an idea of a gal heavy weapon for you. if you like it, spread the word :) i really wanna see this introduced someday even though i'm a shield based scout (and therefore would hate to have this used on me)
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
9
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Posted - 2015.06.14 18:17:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:
I feel like this weapon wold not be very popular. Having one chance to hit a scout before his combat rifle shreds through your suit just seems like a big no go. Since it is a laser weapon it will either end up seriously under powered against armor or shield users will scream for a nerf until the end of all time.
Amarr heavies (and really all of them in general) need a new cqc weapon. It is VERY boring knowing that if you plan on doing point defense you are just going to be sitting there with a HMG waiting on a scout to assault you.
If you want to just mesh something together just make a laser HMG. AScR + HMG would mean we atleast have an option in the heavy suit.
Please ignore everything this man has said.
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Greiv Rabbah
ROGUE RELICS
320
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Posted - 2015.06.14 18:28:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:the terrifying thing is what rattati's describing actually matches one of the weapon proposals I submitted through the CPM. Described slightly different, of course, but charge-burst-fire using the scrambler rifle model. I just had it twigged as a light AV weapon.
I am horridly, morbidly curious to see if that's where this idea came from. any good reason this couldnt be an AV-capable weapon? i'd like to see something like this used to knock dropships around a little/scare away tanks/blow up cars. a question ive got though is why make it light av when its not a light weapon? better heavy weapon options for AV would reduce the incidence of swarms being king of AV wouldnt it? IMO, swarms/mass driver/plasma cannon should be light AV unless used by commandos and heavy weapons should be able to take on a stronger role in AV. is there any serious problem with that logic?
a heavy pulse laser like this with an AV profile would make an ideal counter to a minmatar HAV (if they ever get added)
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Nirwanda Vaughns
1
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Posted - 2015.06.14 19:43:00 -
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Bright Steel wrote:Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:we just need a Heavy shield based AV. Gallente Plasma Forge or an Ammar Laser Forge would be nice. Laser/Scrambler probs be nice. Charge up and a big single shot to put the hurt of Pythons and Gunnlogis What if we used the existing forge gun, changed it to a red ball and called it a laser forge?
i battered out an idea about 18months ago of either using the existing forge model in a silver/green colour of gallente and having the Gallente Plasma Forge Gun or using the PLC model but making it a heavy slot and working in the same way as a forge. essentially the Breach FG is the gallente variant. we just need a heavy shield based AV and then we'd finally be able to have proper balance in vehicles as well as AV
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