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Jade Dragonis GRIM MERCS 447	Posted - 2015.06.11 05:48:00 - [1] - Quote I Doubt it cause it wont make them as much money as silly skins. +1 if you want new heavy weapons as well. Follow me on Youtube

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 24	Posted - 2015.06.11 06:47:00 - [2] - Quote I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat. It was kind of fun. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 408	Posted - 2015.06.11 06:51:00 - [3] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat. It was kind of fun. So... Like a big laser flashlight then? Because if that's what you're going for I give you The Batlight! Part baseball bat, part flashlight. All Batlight. Seriously though, maybe a heavy melee weapon isn't a bad idea. *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!* > --Killer of Snowfall Station--
SLENDER M4N Xer Cloud Consortium 555	Posted - 2015.06.11 06:56:00 - [4] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat. It was kind of fun. Take that idea, but add more minmatar to it. 3 bursts of awesome with a small clip and a reasonable reload time. Wait....I think we have that gun already Jadek! I have kidnapped one of your alts! Pay the ransom or you'll never see him again!
Thaddeus Reynolds Facepunch Security 290	Posted - 2015.06.11 07:08:00 - [5] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat. It was kind of fun. Do I sense a multi-laser? Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper. Vehicle Re-vamp Proposal
Jack Boost Zarena Family 839	Posted - 2015.06.11 07:32:00 - [6] - Quote Peak-and-boo with stake-burst-gun? http://i.ytimg.com/vi/PQc7x8eY5Aw/maxresdefault.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQc7x8eY5Aw Not much time left...
DJIPS Affectionate Moon Warmth Gentle Earth 13	Posted - 2015.06.11 07:38:00 - [7] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat. It was kind of fun. Can that weapon use charge burst ?
VAHZZ Corrosive Synergy No Context 2	Posted - 2015.06.11 07:49:00 - [8] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat. It was kind of fun. Make that a Scrambler Lance bruh. Join the Campaign
Ceadda Sai Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 115	Posted - 2015.06.11 08:24:00 - [9] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: [quote=CCP Rattati] Seriously though, maybe a heavy melee weapon isn't a bad idea. Can we give heavys a giant hammer??? Like a seriously big one. "I love the smell of Warbarge Laser Strikes in the morning... Smells like, Victory!"
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 408	Posted - 2015.06.11 08:33:00 - [10] - Quote Ceadda Sai wrote: Galm Fae wrote: [quote=CCP Rattati] Seriously though, maybe a heavy melee weapon isn't a bad idea. Can we give heavys a giant hammer??? Like a seriously big one. Like this? We shall call it Mjolnir. *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!* > --Killer of Snowfall Station--

The Eristic Art.of.Death 1	Posted - 2015.06.11 08:36:00 - [11] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat. It was kind of fun. This seems like it could also be the basis for a light Burst Scrambler Rifle variant, with rounds in the burst increasing with charge. Similarly, have you tried making a heavy Scrambler charge up, then fire a beam laser for X seconds based on charge? Also, 100% AV efficiency? Reality is the original Rorschach. Verily! So much for all that.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.06.11 08:54:00 - [12] - Quote So like a destiny fusion rifle? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 24	Posted - 2015.06.11 08:58:00 - [13] - Quote DJIPS wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat. It was kind of fun. Can that weapon use charge burst ? Sadly no, that was literally what I was aiming for "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Isaac Fernandez 0uter.Heaven 0	Posted - 2015.06.11 09:19:00 - [14] - Quote I take you having those type of ideas and testing them as a very good sign of progress. Having that said the scrambler rifle is for lack of a more accurate concept "too op" and it has been for a really long time, I would not like to meet his big brother. P.S. nerf that thing already. Can we talk about Dust on ps4?
Mina Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.06.11 09:26:00 - [15] - Quote So I'm not sure how the architecture is set up rattati... but is it not possible to run both a rail-rifle style spool-up alongside an amarr style weapons heat? So have whatever you want the spool-up to be. Set the fire rate INSANELY high. Set the max heat value very low and the overheat sieze to whatever you want it to be, so that it's ~~practically~~ guaranteed to overheat once it gets its 'burst' off, but that just means you have to 'reset' after the (lets say .2s) overheat. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
WeapondigitX V7 The Exemplars 428	Posted - 2015.06.11 09:48:00 - [16] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: DJIPS wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat. It was kind of fun. Can that weapon use charge burst ? Sadly no, that was literally what I was aiming for here is a way to mostly mimic that weapon you wanted rattati make the heavy Scrambler weapon act like a rail rifle with a charge up of approx. 2.5 seconds. Give it a high full auto ROF, give it a large heat cost, give it a large amount of default damage per bullet, small clip size of 24-30, and very quick cooldown rates like the ion pistol (when it does not sieze up), give it long sieze duration (approx 10 seconds) and moderate sieze damage (approx. 100 hp damage). It might not increase in damage per bullet after every consecutive bullet is fired. It also does not have a duel function of either (charging up and firing burst of bullets) and (firing a burst of uncharged bullets). But it is similar. I think players would be happy with it. It mimics are high DPS burst weapon.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 9	Posted - 2015.06.11 10:16:00 - [17] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: DJIPS wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat. It was kind of fun. Can that weapon use charge burst ? Sadly no, that was literally what I was aiming for You accepting submissions? WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H No Context 653	Posted - 2015.06.11 10:20:00 - [18] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat. It was kind of fun. The Scrambler Lance?! Raticate, you now have my undying attention Click me
DJIPS Affectionate Moon Warmth Gentle Earth 13	Posted - 2015.06.11 10:27:00 - [19] - Quote Hmm... By the way, Is there any ideas or tests of Gal heavy weapon ? I want powerful flamethrower !
Nirwanda Vaughns 1	Posted - 2015.06.11 10:27:00 - [20] - Quote we just need a Heavy shield based AV. Gallente Plasma Forge or an Ammar Laser Forge would be nice. Laser/Scrambler probs be nice. Charge up and a big single shot to put the hurt of Pythons and Gunnlogis You'll never have enough ISK to buy my C-II BPO

gabriel login Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 96	Posted - 2015.06.11 10:28:00 - [21] - Quote what i would like to know is who is making it an whos the target an what effect it has on the targets stats. you cant just build a gun an give it random numbers as damage, you must be able to see the weapons, suits an gear as all one, you must think of the game like a real world an put your self in the seat of a real weapons builder, you must ask what is it like on the battle field an what problems a weapon or suit might face. like mobility, power use,how much cpu use, an ammo max an use , what the suit it was made to beat, the suite that counters it , an the suite that is so. you must ask things like what is the ammo type, the damage type , what each stat is doing to both counter an aid the weapon as well as the suit. only then when you see it all like that then balance will be found.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 9	Posted - 2015.06.11 10:33:00 - [22] - Quote gabriel login wrote: what i would like to know is who is making it an whos the target an what effect it has on the targets stats. you cant just build a gun an give it random numbers as damage, you must be able to see the weapons, suits an gear as all one, you must think of the game like a real world an put your self in the seat of a real weapons builder, you must ask what is it like on the battle field an what problems a weapon or suit might face. like mobility, power use,how much cpu use, an ammo max an use , what the suit it was made to beat, the suite that counters it , an the suite that is so. you must ask things like what is the ammo type, the damage type , what each stat is doing to both counter an aid the weapon as well as the suit. only then when you see it all like that then balance will be found. What the ever living bejeezuz are you talking about? He was testing a concept weapon, not invalidating balance concerns. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.06.11 10:51:00 - [23] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: gabriel login wrote: what i would like to know is who is making it an whos the target an what effect it has on the targets stats. you cant just build a gun an give it random numbers as damage, you must be able to see the weapons, suits an gear as all one, you must think of the game like a real world an put your self in the seat of a real weapons builder, you must ask what is it like on the battle field an what problems a weapon or suit might face. like mobility, power use,how much cpu use, an ammo max an use , what the suit it was made to beat, the suite that counters it , an the suite that is so. you must ask things like what is the ammo type, the damage type , what each stat is doing to both counter an aid the weapon as well as the suit. only then when you see it all like that then balance will be found. What the ever living bejeezuz are you talking about? He was testing a concept weapon, not invalidating balance concerns. Specifically he was trying to get firing mechanics to work properly for the weapon he wants to make. Charged burst fire from what it sounds like. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Omega Nox Consolidated Dust 85	Posted - 2015.06.11 10:53:00 - [24] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: DJIPS wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat. It was kind of fun. Can that weapon use charge burst ? Sadly no, that was literally what I was aiming for take a RR model, make it approximate the bolt pistol in function and make it a Cal heavy. US SOF uses the mk46 use it as a reference and it's characteristics as opposed to a RL hmg. Mordu's walking quafe mascot.
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H No Context 654	Posted - 2015.06.11 10:54:00 - [25] - Quote gabriel login wrote: what i would like to know is who is making it an whos the target an what effect it has on the targets stats. you cant just build a gun an give it random numbers as damage, you must be able to see the weapons, suits an gear as all one, you must think of the game like a real world an put your self in the seat of a real weapons builder, you must ask what is it like on the battle field an what problems a weapon or suit might face. like mobility, power use,how much cpu use, an ammo max an use , what the suit it was made to beat, the suite that counters it , an the suite that is so. you must ask things like what is the ammo type, the damage type , what each stat is doing to both counter an aid the weapon as well as the suit. only then when you see it all like that then balance will be found. He isn't even sure if he made the weapon the way he wanted it yet you're already crying its OP? For crying out loud man, you "SCRUMBLERZ IS OP" people are getting really annoying Click me
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H No Context 654	Posted - 2015.06.11 10:55:00 - [26] - Quote Omega Nox wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: DJIPS wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat. It was kind of fun. Can that weapon use charge burst ? Sadly no, that was literally what I was aiming for take a RR model, make it approximate the bolt pistol in function and make it a Cal heavy. US SOF uses the mk46 use it as a reference and it's characteristics as opposed to a RL hmg. You already have a heavy weapon,its Amarr and Gallente's turn Click me
Mina Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.06.11 11:08:00 - [27] - Quote Georgia Xavier wrote: Omega Nox wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: DJIPS wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat. It was kind of fun. Can that weapon use charge burst ? Sadly no, that was literally what I was aiming for take a RR model, make it approximate the bolt pistol in function and make it a Cal heavy. US SOF uses the mk46 use it as a reference and it's characteristics as opposed to a RL hmg. You already have a heavy weapon,its Amarr and Gallente's turn TBH I think all races should have a heavy AI and AV weapon. A twin-linked heavy rail weapon could work pretty well for caldari. Give it a big magazine and only a moderate RoF, have its targeting reticule be something like ( o o ) when moving but as you stand still (or 'aim' it) the individual rails align so it goes like (o o) to (oo), maybe something like 230-240dps per rail. This allows it to be used at long range without being 'OP' because it's likely only hitting with one rail (but it has the magazine to do it ALL DAY LONG) but as targets get closer it can bring that second rail into play causing it to do substantially more DPS. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H No Context 654	Posted - 2015.06.11 11:43:00 - [28] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: TBH I think all races should have a heavy AI and AV weapon. A twin-linked heavy rail weapon could work pretty well for caldari. Give it a big magazine and only a moderate RoF, have its targeting reticule be something like ( o o ) when moving but as you stand still (or 'aim' it) the individual rails align so it goes like (o o) to (oo), maybe something like 230-240dps per rail. This allows it to be used at long range without being 'OP' because it's likely only hitting with one rail (but it has the magazine to do it ALL DAY LONG) but as targets get closer it can bring that second rail into play causing it to do substantially more DPS. Heavy anti infantry and anti vehicle weapons would be a dream come true Click me
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 6	Posted - 2015.06.11 12:10:00 - [29] - Quote Public Service Announcement for any Sentinels reading this thread The Scout community has long had The Barbershop thread in the Locker Room forum to discuss Scout balancing and other Scout issues internally. Rattati has taken to using The Barbershop as a focus group when he is trying to get feedback on Scout balancing ideas. Now we Sentinels have our own hangout, called The Bastion. If you consider yourself a Sentinel, then drop by The Bastion and let us know what Sentinel suits you run so we can add you to the Sentinel Registry. The Bastion is a great place to talk about Heavy weapons with other Sentinels and to discus the prose and cons of various fits, etc. Rattati has already started using The Bastion as a Sentinel Focus group, and posts there when he is making a change effecting Sentinels. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Omega Nox Consolidated Dust 85	Posted - 2015.06.11 12:57:00 - [30] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I was actually testing an idea, a scrambler rifle (heavy) that shot approximately 5-7 shots in a very quick burst, but only had the same amount of shots in the clip, so needed a long reload after each one. It could put the hurt on anyone, but could not be rapid fired due to overheat. It was kind of fun. I can appreciate the constraints that you and your team face in regards to resource allocation, so please just let me throw this out. Since the Caldari are alinged with the Ammar would it be lore friendly to take the forge model and make it into a shot gun of sorts? a lot of small plasma particles being realeased in burst. at your ZERO'd range these plasma particles would concentrate and give maximum damage, then after the zero point start to spread again, the spread pattern is an X with the crossing being your zero'd point. since maximum damage is a distant point, the damage profile up close would be more like " Bird shot" . Seize it at 3 bursts, but allow melee? the blast animation should be insane! Mordu's walking quafe mascot.



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