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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.05.28 02:53:00 -
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Are they going to be addressed anytime soon?
The aim adhesion of those things are completely ridiculous
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GeorgeN76
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.28 02:55:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Are they going to be addressed anytime soon?
The aim adhesion of those things are completely ridiculous
I have nightmares about these things 
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Forever ETC
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
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Posted - 2015.05.28 02:55:00 -
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Agreed, I remember in the sidearm event seeing that always in the killfeed and people saying it was fine... I miss the old Bolt Pisstole
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Nocturnal Soul
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Posted - 2015.05.28 02:58:00 -
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Remove its AA completely
/solved
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LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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Faquira Bleuetta
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Posted - 2015.05.28 03:19:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Are they going to be addressed anytime soon?
The aim adhesion of those things are completely ridiculous
u no liek 360 noscope headshot git gud scrub #SHREKT |
Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.05.28 03:36:00 -
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Faquira Bleuetta wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Are they going to be addressed anytime soon?
The aim adhesion of those things are completely ridiculous u no liek 360 noscope headshot git gud scrub #SHREKT
That weapon makes me sick.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
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Posted - 2015.05.28 03:41:00 -
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Just like those charged shots eh Kirk?
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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.05.28 03:45:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Just like those charged shots eh Kirk? Oh god if I had the charge shot work like the Bolt Pistol did you'd see a lot more Ion Pistol Videos.
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Shadowed Cola
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Posted - 2015.05.28 03:46:00 -
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Bolt Pistols - that moment when you think you've won your 1v1 and he switches to side arm and one shots you. |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.05.28 03:52:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:True Adamance wrote:Just like those charged shots eh Kirk? Oh god if I had the charge shot work like the Bolt Pistol did you'd see a lot more Ion Pistol Videos.
Sometimes it looks a bit like there is some unspoken of magnetism as every shot goes right into a Caldari head.
Then I remember there are those blessed with 'Godplasma' or 'Plasmalight' and that they are awesome to have on your team.
I miss Hali Tari Tari and Commander Marquess......
"Crush all who complain!"
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Cody Sietz
Random Gunz
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Posted - 2015.05.28 04:00:00 -
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V9Wq1A3u1uk
If only they would drop AA and bullet magnetism...
Still not sure why they buffed it, it was one of those why moments.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.05.28 04:06:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V9Wq1A3u1uk
If only they would drop AA and bullet magnetism...
Still not sure why they buffed it, it was one of those why moments.
*Looks at date*
2014
This has been a problem for about a year now and still nothing has been done.
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JIMvc2
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.05.28 04:12:00 -
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Don't even remind me of the side arm event = Blot pistol in was freaking killfeed EVER TIME = /-_-/ /_______/
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Squagga
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Posted - 2015.05.28 04:13:00 -
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I sometimes wonder how OP the Caldari pistol, that I've come to love, is. I definitely didn't enjoy it, when the fire rate was higher. I use it pretty frequently, and there definitely isn't any magnetism there. It takes a lot of aiming, and people who stage really well, are good at avoiding my shots. Mostly frantic scout types. I still haven't tried the Ion Pistol, so I can't say. All I can say, is maybe the bolt pistol needs a nerf
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Posted - 2015.05.28 04:22:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Are they going to be addressed anytime soon?
The aim adhesion of those things are completely ridiculous
Most people can strafe through my BP shots -- so a would-be headshot is just a wasted round.
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Cody Sietz
Random Gunz
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Posted - 2015.05.28 04:29:00 -
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Songs of Seraphim wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Are they going to be addressed anytime soon?
The aim adhesion of those things are completely ridiculous Most people can strafe through my BP shots -- so a would-be headshot is just a wasted round. I WOULD WRITW MORE BUT I HOTTA GET ON STAGE TO PLAY
Heh, Drunk.
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Oswald Rehnquist
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Posted - 2015.05.28 04:33:00 -
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I believe the bolt pistol's magnetism is the exact same as the breach scrambler pistol's magnetism.
Flaylock is Aoe, and the Ion can rapid fire.
I'm all about sidearm balance, as I really love running sidearm only fits, I'd honestly wish there were sidearm suits specialized in dust.
The bolt pistol is the number 2 sidearm but the gap between number 2 and number 1 is massive (BrSMG). Attacking the bolt pistol before the SMG seems to display alternative motives rather than balance because the first thing that comes to mind when I think of sidearm parity is equalizing the smg to the other sidearms.
That doesn't mean that sidearm parity wouldn't nerf the bolt pistol in a particular manner, but clearly not looking at the biggest offender in sidearm imbalance is suspect.
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Posted - 2015.05.28 04:56:00 -
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Sees blip on tacnet fires bolt pistol +50 kill no dropsuit on ground ...... the guy was behind me LOL
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Songs of Seraphim
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Posted - 2015.05.28 05:16:00 -
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I can't even hear my own thoughts. Damn gig is loud.
There's similar aim adhesion across pistols (yes, I'm trying my hand at the Ion Pistol -- dat charged headshot doe).
More so on the Scrambler Pistol, it seems. There is higher user error on the Bolt Pistol, but the damage overrides that a tad.
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Archduke Ferd1nand
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Posted - 2015.05.28 05:20:00 -
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Ill admit that it is the best pistol....
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Posted - 2015.05.28 05:59:00 -
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Archduke Ferd1nand wrote:Ill admit that it is the best pistol....
The Kaalakiota BP has nothing on the TY-5 Breach Scrambler Pistol.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
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Posted - 2015.05.28 06:04:00 -
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So a Gallente zealot is appealing for the nerf of a Caldari weapon?
Hmm... 
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nelo kazuma
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Posted - 2015.05.28 06:11:00 -
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To those saying its op -_- ill take a nerve on bolt pistol when flaylock takes its nerve as well I do miss six bullets though
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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.05.28 06:12:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:So a Gallente zealot is appealing for the nerf of a Caldari weapon? Hmm...
Yep, that's what this is all about. Nothing else, Nerf Caldari MCCs as well.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
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Posted - 2015.05.28 06:50:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:So a Gallente zealot is appealing for the nerf of a Caldari weapon? Hmm... Yep, that's what this is all about. Nothing else, Nerf Caldari MCCs as well.
It was just a light troll, old bean. 
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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.05.28 06:52:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:So a Gallente zealot is appealing for the nerf of a Caldari weapon? Hmm... Yep, that's what this is all about. Nothing else, Nerf Caldari MCCs as well. It was just a light troll, old bean.
Damn son, I was rolling with it.
ALS challenge man
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Genral69 death
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Posted - 2015.05.28 08:35:00 -
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'sneaks up to group of enemy's, unclocks.' Died
Yet again the damn bolt pistol to the back
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noob cavman
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Posted - 2015.05.28 09:20:00 -
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Yet all bow before wolfmans
I want to be a caveman!
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Posted - 2015.05.28 09:37:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:Yet all bow before wolfmans
that thing is a joke...i caught sight of Skeletor Voltron (i don't remember his last name) running a wolfman's and a calas....now its outclassed by the kubo's scrambler pistol
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Diablo Gamekeeper
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Posted - 2015.05.28 10:37:00 -
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I do fine with it and i rarely use it....
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Moochie Cricket
The Templis Dragonaurs
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Posted - 2015.05.28 11:31:00 -
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QQ moar Kirk. Gallente tears are delicious.
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.05.28 11:46:00 -
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You gallentians can't stand the superiority of Bolt Pistol over your pesky ion toy.
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Posted - 2015.05.28 11:47:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Are they going to be addressed anytime soon?
The aim adhesion of those things are completely ridiculous
Only if the SMG loses a similar amount.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2015.05.28 12:56:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:I believe the bolt pistol's magnetism is the exact same as the breach scrambler pistol's magnetism.
Flaylock is Aoe, and the Ion can rapid fire.
I'm all about sidearm balance, as I really love running sidearm only fits, I'd honestly wish there were sidearm suit specialization in dust.
The bolt pistol is the number 2 sidearm but the gap between number 2 and number 1 is massive (BrSMG). Attacking the bolt pistol before the SMG seems to display alternative motives rather than balance because the first thing that comes to mind when I think of sidearm parity is equalizing the smg to the other sidearms.
That doesn't mean that sidearm parity wouldn't nerf the bolt pistol in a particular manner, but clearly not looking at the biggest offender in sidearm imbalance is suspect.
Nonono, you don't understand. You are never supposed to call kirk out on factional bias - everything that's gallente is underpowered (even when it's not) and everything that's caldari is overpowered AND bullshit. Listen and Believe, don't contradict the narrative. I mean look at how weak that gallente assault bonus is? It needs to be 200% range, 400% rate of fire and 10000% damage per level!
The bolt pistol does occasionally seem to have wierd magnetism on its hipfire though, but actually aiming it can cause utterly stupid misses cause wigglewigglewiggle & ferroscales (HOW DARE MY WIGGLEWIGGLE BE NERFED BY ACTUAL ARMOR PLATES!)
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noob cavman
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Posted - 2015.05.28 13:08:00 -
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Nachos wrote:noob cavman wrote:Yet all bow before wolfmans that thing is a joke...i caught sight of Skeletor Voltron (i don't remember his last name) running a wolfman's and a calas....now its outclassed by the kubo's scrambler pistol
Ehhh the kubos is basically the old crath. Also skele and his hot dog water can't aim for **** with a scrambler pistol XD
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Posted - 2015.05.28 13:11:00 -
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Don't make be ***** slap you with my plasma cannon =ƒÿÄ
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Posted - 2015.05.28 14:15:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Are they going to be addressed anytime soon?
The aim adhesion of those things are completely ridiculous
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Posted - 2015.05.28 14:37:00 -
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Fear my assault scrambler pistol!
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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.05.28 14:47:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Oswald Rehnquist wrote:I believe the bolt pistol's magnetism is the exact same as the breach scrambler pistol's magnetism.
Flaylock is Aoe, and the Ion can rapid fire.
I'm all about sidearm balance, as I really love running sidearm only fits, I'd honestly wish there were sidearm suit specialization in dust.
The bolt pistol is the number 2 sidearm but the gap between number 2 and number 1 is massive (BrSMG). Attacking the bolt pistol before the SMG seems to display alternative motives rather than balance because the first thing that comes to mind when I think of sidearm parity is equalizing the smg to the other sidearms.
That doesn't mean that sidearm parity wouldn't nerf the bolt pistol in a particular manner, but clearly not looking at the biggest offender in sidearm imbalance is suspect. Nonono, you don't understand. You are never supposed to call kirk out on factional bias - everything that's gallente is underpowered (even when it's not) and everything that's caldari is overpowered AND bullshit. Listen and Believe, don't contradict the narrative. I mean look at how weak that gallente assault bonus is? It needs to be 200% range, 400% rate of fire and 10000% damage per level! The bolt pistol does occasionally seem to have wierd magnetism on its hipfire though, but actually aiming it can cause utterly stupid misses cause wigglewigglewiggle & ferroscales (HOW DARE MY WIGGLEWIGGLE BE NERFED BY ACTUAL ARMOR PLATES!)
I like how you automatically result throwing your agenda immediately.
God forbid I complain about a Caldari weapon, I'm not allowed to at all because I'm Gallente. You guys really need to get it together and grow up because this is extremely annoying. No one bats an eye when I talk about Scrambler Rifles or buffing shields but you guys all love to detect it when I notice that something Caldari is overpowered.
You people suffer from the most sever case of confirmation biased I've ever seen and it is a complete joke.
However, thanks for your over exaggeration of my actions again. I thought you were doing better with that now but I can see you're not.
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MINA Longstrike
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Posted - 2015.05.28 15:08:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:
I like how you automatically result throwing your agenda immediately.
God forbid I complain about a Caldari weapon, I'm not allowed to at all because I'm Gallente. You guys really need to get it together and grow up because this is extremely annoying. No one bats an eye when I talk about Scrambler Rifles or buffing shields but you guys all love to detect it when I notice that something Caldari is overpowered.
You people suffer from the most sever case of confirmation biased I've ever seen and it is a complete joke.
However, thanks for your over exaggeration of my actions again. I thought you were doing better with that now but I can see you're not.
Oh no, did I upset you Mr.I want to be cpm? How dare someone highlight your bias (let alone four people in the same thread lol).
What agenda am I throwing around here kirk? Have I shouted about how caldari things need to be buffed? No, I've only called out your bias. Also lol the hypocrisy and doublestandards in "When i talk about SCR or buffing shields" cause when I do the same about AR, Gal assault or Ion pistol you show up to shout "YOU'RE NOT GALLENTE AND I DONT CARE IF YOU HAVE AN ALT THATS SKILLED INTO GALLENTE THINGS YOU DONT PLAY IT 52 HOURS A DAY! SO YOUR EXPERIENCE DOESN'T COUNT!".
It's kind of hilarious that a few people calling you out can reduce you to a gibbering caricature.
Find a real ****ing problem to complain about.
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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.05.28 15:18:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:
I like how you automatically result throwing your agenda immediately.
God forbid I complain about a Caldari weapon, I'm not allowed to at all because I'm Gallente. You guys really need to get it together and grow up because this is extremely annoying. No one bats an eye when I talk about Scrambler Rifles or buffing shields but you guys all love to detect it when I notice that something Caldari is overpowered.
You people suffer from the most sever case of confirmation biased I've ever seen and it is a complete joke.
However, thanks for your over exaggeration of my actions again. I thought you were doing better with that now but I can see you're not.
Oh no, did I upset you Mr.I want to be cpm? How dare someone highlight your bias (let alone four people in the same thread lol). Find a real ****ing problem to complain about.
You heard it here First.
Bolt Pistol isn't a problem guys.
Talk about bias
Your post are fine when they don't contain your massive amounts of angst but I see you're in one of your moods again so ill set you aside until you because reasonable again.
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7th Son 7
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.28 15:23:00 -
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So I take it I won't be seeing a Bolt Pistol montage from Sgt Kirk anytime soon, check
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MINA Longstrike
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Posted - 2015.05.28 15:29:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:You heard it here First. Bolt Pistol isn't a problem guys. Talk about bias Your post are fine when they don't contain your massive amounts of angst but I see you're in one of your moods again so ill set you aside until you because reasonable again.
Hey, at least I come out of my 'moods'. You've wedged your head so far up your butt it's astonishing.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.05.28 15:31:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:You heard it here First. Bolt Pistol isn't a problem guys. Talk about bias Your post are fine when they don't contain your massive amounts of angst but I see you're in one of your moods again so ill set you aside until you because reasonable again. Hey, at least I come out of my 'moods'. You've wedged your head so far up your butt it's astonishing.
Would you just stop..? I mean, seriously...
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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.05.28 15:31:00 -
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7th Son 7 wrote:So I take it I won't be seeing a Bolt Pistol montage from Sgt Kirk anytime soon, check
I didn't even use the AR when it was OP because I have an immense hatred of anything easy mode.
(save for my tank, but tanks insight such bloodlust you can't be in one that's not OP or you'll die in a second)
Ahh ****, I should have been working on my car while its still not hot outside
I will upload a video possibly tomorrow, haven't uploaded one in a while.
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7th Son 7
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.28 15:41:00 -
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Everybody should stop fighting because apparently this sidearm is the only weopon you will ever need in Dust
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MINA Longstrike
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Posted - 2015.05.28 15:41:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:You heard it here First. Bolt Pistol isn't a problem guys. Talk about bias Your post are fine when they don't contain your massive amounts of angst but I see you're in one of your moods again so ill set you aside until you because reasonable again. Hey, at least I come out of my 'moods'. You've wedged your head so far up your butt it's astonishing. Would you just stop..? I mean, seriously...
Say please.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.05.28 15:46:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:You heard it here First. Bolt Pistol isn't a problem guys. Talk about bias Your post are fine when they don't contain your massive amounts of angst but I see you're in one of your moods again so ill set you aside until you because reasonable again. Hey, at least I come out of my 'moods'. You've wedged your head so far up your butt it's astonishing. Would you just stop..? I mean, seriously... Say please.
No, dude, you're being ******* rude for rudeness sake. There's nothing objective about what you're saying and you're just bashing the dude because you don't like him.
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MINA Longstrike
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Posted - 2015.05.28 15:56:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:No, dude, you're being ******* rude for rudeness sake. There's nothing objective about what you're saying and you're just bashing the dude because you don't like him.
I don't mind kirk when he isn't being an idiot, unfortunately he seems to get some sort of perverse thrill out of missing the point which quite honestly makes him sound like an idiot quite frequently. Unfortunately Aeon, I am being pretty objective about this - kirk has historically demonstrated hilarious bias in the past.
I mean lets look back to the breach AR when it was overpowered, Kirk shows up screaming that absolutely nothing is wrong with it and it's fine, cause gallente ra-ra-ra-freedom!
Before you start making comparisons with me here, you might want to reread my initial post here (a couple of times, I know you can be a little bit slow and reading comprehension is hard) - I have outright said that the bolt pistol does seem to have weird magnetism at times: I am not in the process of denying what is clearly observable.
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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.05.28 16:11:00 -
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Just before I head out, thanks for the personal attacks looks good on you.
Second, once again even though we already trashed this claim when you and your buddy adipdi were trying to convince people of it I clearly said in multiple threads that it just needs a slight tone down, nothing drastic, or just change its functionality completely, comparing it to the ARR when no one found a problem with that.
But if course, not going with the hive mind mob mentality of the forums asking a weapon to be nerfed to the ground clearly makes me bias because it is a Gallente weapon.
Last post before I seriously head out
But you suffer from conformation bias. You know what that is?
Its is the tendency to search for, interpret, or recall information in a way that confirms one's beliefs or hypotheses. It is a type of cognitive bias and a systematic error of inductive reasoning. People display this bias when they gather or remember information selectively, or when they interpret it in a biased way. The effect is stronger for emotionally charged issues and for deeply entrenched beliefs. People also tend to interpret ambiguous evidence as supporting their existing position.
That's you, to a tee.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2015.05.28 16:14:00 -
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Sure thing jingo. Why don't you go find another 'overpowered' thing that belongs to the caldari to complain about. I mean god rail weaponry is so long ranged! It's not fair!
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.05.28 16:30:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Sure thing jingo. Why don't you go find another 'overpowered' thing that belongs to the caldari to complain about. I mean god rail weaponry is so long ranged! It's not fair!
Look, another example. Great job
I've never said anything remotely similar to that. You want me to so desperately though.
People also blame me for lag and making them DC as well. Clearly I'm just some evil mastermind
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Verdia DeMosays
Alexylva Paradox
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Posted - 2015.05.28 16:35:00 -
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Ooh, good show!
*popcorn*
Sorry, I'm used to wormhole space, what are these Empire thingies?
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.05.28 16:46:00 -
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Verdia DeMosays wrote:Ooh, good show!
*popcorn*
I agree, this is getting ridiculous.
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Vesta Opalus
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.28 16:57:00 -
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Bolt pistol is in a good spot, but the SMG is clearly better all around. Not sure why the bolt pistol is so rage inducing for people, but I think its fine myself, and the crappy sidearms (scrambler pistol/ion pistol/magsec) should be brought up to the SMG/flaylock/bolt pistol/nove knife level, not the other way around. |
Vesta Opalus
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.28 17:01:00 -
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How does he even do this? When I use the burst scp the reticle jumps out so far on the first burst that the only bullet that ever hits is the first shot of the first burst |
7th Son 7
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.28 17:03:00 -
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Vesta Opalus wrote:How does he even do this? When I use the burst scp the reticle jumps out so far on the first burst that the only bullet that ever hits is the first shot of the first burst
I honestly have no idea man, I thought the same thing.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.05.28 17:07:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:
I don't mind kirk when he isn't being an idiot, unfortunately he seems to get some sort of perverse thrill out of missing the point which quite honestly makes him sound like an idiot frequently... In short kirk often under-represents his intelligence or lets some other factor grab ahold of him, which turns him from a somewhat reasonable individual into a frothing jingoist. Unfortunately Aeon, I am being pretty objective about this - kirk has historically demonstrated hilarious bias in the past.
-Glances up-
MINA Longstrike wrote:Sure thing jingo. Why don't you go find another 'overpowered' thing that belongs to the caldari to complain about. I mean god rail weaponry is so long ranged! It's not fair!
-Looks down-
Dude, are you high?
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.05.28 17:30:00 -
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It was confirmed by Rattati and Videos that the bolt pistol does fire rounds that Follow the Targets Head/Body |
Dreis ShadowWeaver
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.05.28 23:00:00 -
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It was my understanding that the Bolt Pistol was intentionally given bullet magnetism to compensate for it's poor hit detection.
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tal mrak-thanl
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2015.05.28 23:03:00 -
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Is bullet magnetism a trait of all the weapons, with most having no or low value? Is the Bolt Pistol the only weapon with high magnetism?
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Oswald Rehnquist
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Posted - 2015.05.28 23:13:00 -
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Vesta Opalus wrote:Bolt pistol is in a good spot, but the SMG is clearly better all around. Not sure why the bolt pistol is so rage inducing for people, but I think its fine myself, and the crappy sidearms (scrambler pistol/ion pistol/magsec) should be brought up to the SMG/flaylock/bolt pistol/nove knife level, not the other way around.
Kind of my line of thought, I honestly want all the sidearms to be competitive, including the Ion and magsec (the two weakest). I don't pretend to not be sidearm biased, I want to see them fielded more often and for more combinations of duel sidearm fits to be viable.
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GRIM GEAR
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Posted - 2015.05.28 23:25:00 -
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The bolt pistols hip fire magnetism is far too strong; you don't even have to aim directly at your targets head and you get your +60 war points points. It is in-fact harder to get a headshot with the bolt pistol aiming down sights, now that is totally back to front.( inb4 some scrub suggests increasing the bp ads magnetism to match the hip fire magnetism)
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Songs of Seraphim
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Posted - 2015.05.28 23:30:00 -
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GRIM GEAR wrote:The bolt pistols hip fire magnetism is far too strong; you don't even have to aim directly at your targets head and you get your +60 war points. It is in-fact harder to get a headshot with the bolt pistol aiming down sights, now that is totally back to front.( inb4 some scrub suggests increasing the bp ads magnetism to match the hip fire magnetism)
Increez magnits fo da headshot plox
I'd rather bring up the sidearms up to par. Mainly any variant other than Breach for the Scrambler Pistol, the Magsec, and the Ion's heat/seizure.
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killertojo42
KnightKiller's inc.
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Posted - 2015.05.28 23:36:00 -
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Old bolt pistol = slightly less than half the damage and twice the clip, still would be bery powerful, i loved the old BP, it was perfect
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Imp Smash
molon labe.
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Posted - 2015.05.29 00:33:00 -
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Amazing sidearm thanks to aim assist. Almost always lands its shot in hipfire. Stops shotgun scouts all day. Almost never lands its shot (strafing +hit detection) when ADS, therefore without aim assist easily a terrible sidearm.
Still weaker than the SMG line. Should fix THOSE first... |
Oswald Rehnquist
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Posted - 2015.05.29 00:47:00 -
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Imp Smash wrote:Amazing sidearm thanks to aim assist. Almost always lands its shot in hipfire. Stops shotgun scouts all day. Almost never lands its shot (strafing +hit detection) when ADS, therefore without aim assist easily a terrible sidearm.
Still weaker than the SMG line. Should fix THOSE first...
Using magsec/BrScP now, but it seems like I need to try this hipfire more, as I always use ADS, a habit I picked up when the BP first came out. I don't find the ADS with the bolt terrible that bad though.
Also just to explain my position biases, I ran nothing buts scouts since closed beta, so all of my approaches involve flanking, which means the target isn't dancing or actively fighting back, which is why I ADS most of my shots.
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2015.05.29 01:26:00 -
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DAT BScP doh...
DAT IoP charge shot doh...
DAT SMG hipfire doh...
Seriously, every sidearm has considerable magnetism... Not sure what's new here.
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Pocket Rocket Girl
Psygod9
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Posted - 2015.05.29 01:39:00 -
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Songs of Seraphim wrote:I can't even hear my own thoughts. Damn gig is loud.
There's similar aim adhesion across pistols (yes, I'm trying my hand at the Ion Pistol -- dat charged headshot doe).
More so on the Scrambler Pistol, it seems. There is higher user error on the Bolt Pistol, but the damage overrides that a tad.
dont know about that. for me with the bolt pistol its pew pew+50 pewpew+50 reload pewpew +50 pewpew+50 reload pew miss pewpew+50 pew reload
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Vesta Opalus
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.29 03:00:00 -
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Imp Smash wrote:Amazing sidearm thanks to aim assist. Almost always lands its shot in hipfire. Stops shotgun scouts all day. Almost never lands its shot (strafing +hit detection) when ADS, therefore without aim assist easily a terrible sidearm.
Still weaker than the SMG line. Should fix THOSE first...
Theres nothing wrong with the SMG... what is the deal with you guys who think all the sidearms should be ****?
Or do you think the SMG is better than any of the rifles or something? |
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
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Posted - 2015.05.29 03:07:00 -
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Vesta Opalus wrote:Imp Smash wrote:Amazing sidearm thanks to aim assist. Almost always lands its shot in hipfire. Stops shotgun scouts all day. Almost never lands its shot (strafing +hit detection) when ADS, therefore without aim assist easily a terrible sidearm.
Still weaker than the SMG line. Should fix THOSE first... Theres nothing wrong with the SMG... what is the deal with you guys who think all the sidearms should be ****? Or do you think the SMG is better than any of the rifles or something?
The SMG is still king of the sidearms.
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Oswald Rehnquist
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Posted - 2015.05.29 03:27:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Vesta Opalus wrote:Imp Smash wrote:Amazing sidearm thanks to aim assist. Almost always lands its shot in hipfire. Stops shotgun scouts all day. Almost never lands its shot (strafing +hit detection) when ADS, therefore without aim assist easily a terrible sidearm.
Still weaker than the SMG line. Should fix THOSE first... Theres nothing wrong with the SMG... what is the deal with you guys who think all the sidearms should be ****? Or do you think the SMG is better than any of the rifles or something? The SMG is still king of the sidearms.
Precisely, after all the other hot topics get covered, sidearm balancing will be needed. Hopefully bringing it up to the level of the SMG rather than bring everything down, which is why I don't endorse the OP just yet because the aim of it is misguided (pun intended).
The biggest challenges will be the Ion and Magsec due to comparative light weapons that compete within its range and function. The SMG became king because it has a unique function and range which doesn't step any any light weapon to warrant a complaint. Ion has to be careful of not offending shotgunners, and magsecs have to be careful in not offending the battle rifles. For these I think the mechanism need to be made more extreme to allow dominance in the role its given.
but that discussion is for another thread
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Oswald Rehnquist
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Posted - 2015.05.29 09:42:00 -
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For the record though, I take no issues with reducing hipfire magnetism of the bolt pistol. Its not needed to be what it is. ADS is there for a reason and the bolt should be built for ADSing.
That being said, greater sidearm parity is still needed.
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.05.29 11:46:00 -
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On a simple look, the Bolt Pistol is insanely OP
I have ran it since release, was happier with the first setup 5 in clip w/less DMG..
The 'Buff' added overkill but given the fact you lost a bullet in clip, kills take longer if you miss
So far balancing, reverting back to the old BP would be great.
However.. To claim the BP is in a worse state than any other sidearm is biased and false.
- Bolt Pistol - Aplha DMG too high, simply adding the old stats provides a clean fix.
- ScR Pistol - Depends on variants, the regular is needle accurate, the Breach is an Amarr BP.
- Ion Pistol - I would claim this as the OP sidearm - Charge shots almost hitting 1k DMG.
- Flaylock - 4 in a clip more than a rocket pistol, thats job is usually complete in 1/2 shots needs
- SMG - The mini Combat Rifle still shreds in CQC
- Magsec - Can be decent, but clearly the 'worst' sidearm
- Nove Knives - WTF!! is this aim adhesion!! please pick range / aim adhesion.. not both
People are going to read through and be like 'Dafuq!, he just claimed the Ion Pistol is OP!'
I'll back it with some explanation... I have used the Bolt Pistol since release, formerly it was the BrScRP as the rewards for accuracy on these weapons is OP, so I like them  After countless squads ranting and hatemail over my scrubby use of a BP
I got bored...Used the spare SP to get Ion Pistol 5 with some core skills for it, and daaayyyyyyyuumm
The Ion Pistol is a pocket shotgun!! in 10-20m I crap my pants facing one. Using it, I never had so many OHK's outside of using a Plasma Cannon. As usual what confuses Dust mercs is it has a role, CQC, not fighting a range instead of realizing this, many will ask for a buff, so it can do both..
Ion is a really good sidearm, a buff could lead to it being the new SMG (used on most fits)
- Any buff/nerfs wont really affect me with my ignorance L5 along with all sidearms L5
- FOR ONCE!! while balancing, can we look at all the issues rather than lining 1 weapon up for QQ
As many players are demonstrating, wait, bait n' charge shot in da face = 50wp
But of course, a weapon that takes 'skill' and it 'overheats' has enough drawback that it needs an OP feature
It's not like this has not ened up very, very messy before... *glances at ScR*
- My long barbaric rants can be summed up pretty quickly.
TL;DR - All sidearms benefit too much from AA, along with a stupid headshot multiplier
- Adding these together is just asking for tears, luckily CCP usually go out collecting with buckets
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Imp Smash
Molon Labe.
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Posted - 2015.05.30 04:07:00 -
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Vesta Opalus wrote:Imp Smash wrote:Amazing sidearm thanks to aim assist. Almost always lands its shot in hipfire. Stops shotgun scouts all day. Almost never lands its shot (strafing +hit detection) when ADS, therefore without aim assist easily a terrible sidearm.
Still weaker than the SMG line. Should fix THOSE first... Theres nothing wrong with the SMG... what is the deal with you guys who think all the sidearms should be ****? Or do you think the SMG is better than any of the rifles or something?
I don't think the SMG should be ****. But it competes on virtually even ground with a light weapon -- with less skill required.
Same with the BP. It competes with light weapons, same skill level required.
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Posted - 2015.05.30 05:10:00 -
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Let us take a simple look at your sidearm. (I will get to BP soon. I just wanted to address this when I can.)
It's hit detection isn't perfect, although it is decent. A charge shot can easily OHK a PRO Caldari Assault. (Spoken from experience. GG to Kubo for that though. A basic sidearm OHKing you... fun.) It's not 'horribly UP.' like I hear, but instead decent, although I would say fixing dispersion on it would very much fix the 'Hit Detection' problem.
Now, Bolt Pistol.
Well, I would say it is borderline OP. Not exactly OP, but close. I have been bested countless times due to it's charge, and hipfire. (Which is, if you use it, not all it's made to seem.)
The damage is the main reason I use it, when I fail to kill with my PLC, I whip it out and fire, this works about 65% of the time.
I'd rather buff the others though, instead of nerfing this weapon.
@Kirk
I have a few questions.
1) Do you use the BP? I ask because you mention not using what you consider 'OP' weapons, and you clearly consider this OP.
2) Unrelated, but I would like to hear your opinion on the Magsec.
3) Why counter attack MINA? Don't feed the trolls man. (Just pointing out that I do not see any bias here, although I have before.)
EDIT: It's Adipem Nothi, I know you dislike him, but at least spell his name correctly.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.05.30 05:32:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Let us take a simple look at your sidearm. (I will get to BP soon. I just wanted to address this when I can.)
It's hit detection isn't perfect, although it is decent. A charge shot can easily OHK a PRO Caldari Assault. (Spoken from experience. GG to Kubo for that though. A basic sidearm OHKing you... fun.) It's not 'horribly UP.' like I hear, but instead decent, although I would say fixing dispersion on it would very much fix the 'Hit Detection' problem.
Now, Bolt Pistol.
Well, I would say it is borderline OP. Not exactly OP, but close. I have been bested countless times due to it's charge, and hipfire. (Which is, if you use it, not all it's made to seem.)
The damage is the main reason I use it, when I fail to kill with my PLC, I whip it out and fire, this works about 65% of the time.
I'd rather buff the others though, instead of nerfing this weapon.
@Kirk
I have a few questions.
1) Do you use the BP? I ask because you mention not using what you consider 'OP' weapons, and you clearly consider this OP.
2) Unrelated, but I would like to hear your opinion on the Magsec.
3) Why counter attack MINA? Don't feed the trolls man. (Just pointing out that I do not see any bias here, although I have before.)
EDIT: It's Adipem Nothi, I know you dislike him, but at least spell his name correctly.
First, I do like the Ion Pistol, It's not terribly bad but then I remember I have max skills and just then it's 50% 50% and gets slightly better chances after getting the feel for the weapon's functionality while strafing for 2 years.
I do have a Caldari alt as well as Minmatar with 35+ million SP each that I use when I'm tired of being the primary target of everyone on the enemy team. Bolt Pistol, while I thought it was decent when it first came out, the main problem was it being heavily outshined by the OP flaylock of the day and the hit detection issues that were the same as the Ion Pistols.
Even with the huge buff it got, still my only issue with the weapon is the magnetism of the weapon and that's it.
Magsec, while I think is a really awesome weapon providing a unique take on the SMG could still use a bit of a tune up. I don't use it nor expect it to be used like the Minmatar SMG but a longer ranged variant and it treats me well. I have to respool it sometimes in laggy matches because it doesn't want to register that it's firing yet still uses up rounds....but that's a problem with all rails for some reason.
Like you said about the Ion Pistol, that reduction to dispersion will most likely fix the weapon, anything more to the weapon might put it in OP territory.
Yeah, I should learn when I'm just being baited. I've had some pretty ridiculous claims said against me (wasn't kidding when I said some people think I have a hack that makes people DC, lag and perma scan [I don't even run logistics] in my favor) so that's another thing I need to learn to just ignore.
Lastly, a lot of people jumped exaggeration, strawman and hyperbole with the original statement. All I asked was is they were going to be addressed anytime soon, amongst the many things I gripe about in this game I found it odd I haven't talked about the Bolt Pistol as much as I have with other things of the same annoyance.
Also, sorry that this is a bit jumbled but I was just about to head to sleep, just wanted to peak my head in the forums before I clocked out for the night.
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Cody Sietz
Random Gunz
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Posted - 2015.05.30 15:05:00 -
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I'm just glad they can't strafe and hipfire while doing crazy amounts of dmg
http://m.imgur.com/w1zg98a oh wait...
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lowdevil
Savage Bullet
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.05.30 15:10:00 -
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just remove all aim assist. fixed. |
Cody Sietz
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.05.30 15:12:00 -
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lowdevil wrote:just remove all aim assist. fixed.
And bullet magnatisim.
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.05.30 15:27:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Are they going to be addressed anytime soon?
The aim adhesion of those things are completely ridiculous
Point at enemy.
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killertojo42 wrote:Old bolt pistol = slightly less than half the damage and twice the clip, still would be bery powerful, i loved the old BP, it was perfect
That's another good point: why was it changed in the first place? The old Bolt Pistol's stats were perfectly fine.
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Posted - 2015.05.30 15:30:00 -
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I think that the headshot multiplier on the bolt pistol should be toned down; the scrambler pistol is supposed to be the one to crack open clone craniums.
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