DUST Search - Soooo, Bolt Pistols

MINA Longstrike wrote:

Oswald Rehnquist wrote:

I believe the bolt pistol's magnetism is the exact same as the breach scrambler pistol's magnetism.

Flaylock is Aoe, and the Ion can rapid fire.

I'm all about sidearm balance, as I really love running sidearm only fits, I'd honestly wish there were sidearm suit specialization in dust.

The bolt pistol is the number 2 sidearm but the gap between number 2 and number 1 is massive (BrSMG). Attacking the bolt pistol before the SMG seems to display alternative motives rather than balance because the first thing that comes to mind when I think of sidearm parity is equalizing the smg to the other sidearms.

That doesn't mean that sidearm parity wouldn't nerf the bolt pistol in a particular manner, but clearly not looking at the biggest offender in sidearm imbalance is suspect.

Nonono, you don't understand. You are never supposed to call kirk out on factional bias - everything that's gallente is underpowered (even when it's not) and everything that's caldari is overpowered AND bullshit. Listen and Believe, don't contradict the narrative. I mean look at how weak that gallente assault bonus is? It needs to be 200% range, 400% rate of fire and 10000% damage per level!

The bolt pistol does occasionally seem to have wierd magnetism on its hipfire though, but actually aiming it can cause utterly stupid misses cause wigglewigglewiggle & ferroscales (HOW DARE MY WIGGLEWIGGLE BE NERFED BY ACTUAL ARMOR PLATES!)

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Moochie Cricket The Templis Dragonaurs 1	Posted - 2015.05.28 11:31:00 - [31] - Quote QQ moar Kirk. Gallente tears are delicious. FOR THE STATE
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.05.28 11:46:00 - [32] - Quote You gallentians can't stand the superiority of Bolt Pistol over your pesky ion toy. Caldari Loyalist Uka ki onuoto Kirjuun. Nei ya arekaini saaja hui ka Heiian! Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 9	Posted - 2015.05.28 11:47:00 - [33] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Are they going to be addressed anytime soon? The aim adhesion of those things are completely ridiculous Only if the SMG loses a similar amount. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.05.28 12:56:00 - [34] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: I believe the bolt pistol's magnetism is the exact same as the breach scrambler pistol's magnetism. Flaylock is Aoe, and the Ion can rapid fire. I'm all about sidearm balance, as I really love running sidearm only fits, I'd honestly wish there were sidearm suit specialization in dust. The bolt pistol is the number 2 sidearm but the gap between number 2 and number 1 is massive (BrSMG). Attacking the bolt pistol before the SMG seems to display alternative motives rather than balance because the first thing that comes to mind when I think of sidearm parity is equalizing the smg to the other sidearms. That doesn't mean that sidearm parity wouldn't nerf the bolt pistol in a particular manner, but clearly not looking at the biggest offender in sidearm imbalance is suspect. Nonono, you don't understand. You are never supposed to call kirk out on factional bias - everything that's gallente is underpowered (even when it's not) and everything that's caldari is overpowered AND bullshit. Listen and Believe, don't contradict the narrative. I mean look at how weak that gallente assault bonus is? It needs to be 200% range, 400% rate of fire and 10000% damage per level! The bolt pistol does occasionally seem to have wierd magnetism on its hipfire though, but actually aiming it can cause utterly stupid misses cause wigglewigglewiggle & ferroscales (HOW DARE MY WIGGLEWIGGLE BE NERFED BY ACTUAL ARMOR PLATES!) Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
noob cavman Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 2	Posted - 2015.05.28 13:08:00 - [35] - Quote Nachos wrote: noob cavman wrote: Yet all bow before wolfmans that thing is a joke...i caught sight of Skeletor Voltron (i don't remember his last name) running a wolfman's and a calas....now its outclassed by the kubo's scrambler pistol Ehhh the kubos is basically the old crath. Also skele and his hot dog water can't aim for **** with a scrambler pistol XD I want to be a caveman! psn: marko_blues Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Full steam ahead into the enemies booty yarrr.
Genral69 death Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 305	Posted - 2015.05.28 13:11:00 - [36] - Quote Don't make be ***** slap you with my plasma cannon =ƒÿÄ General limited: warming failure to pay, may lead to death,massive amount of pain or even lose of family. Since 1995
Corvo Wolfear Academy Inferno E-R-A 228	Posted - 2015.05.28 14:15:00 - [37] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Are they going to be addressed anytime soon? The aim adhesion of those things are completely ridiculous Dat bolt made me protostomper.
Regnier Feros Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 378	Posted - 2015.05.28 14:37:00 - [38] - Quote Fear my assault scrambler pistol! ZariaOwnsWhips
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.05.28 14:47:00 - [39] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Oswald Rehnquist wrote: I believe the bolt pistol's magnetism is the exact same as the breach scrambler pistol's magnetism. Flaylock is Aoe, and the Ion can rapid fire. I'm all about sidearm balance, as I really love running sidearm only fits, I'd honestly wish there were sidearm suit specialization in dust. The bolt pistol is the number 2 sidearm but the gap between number 2 and number 1 is massive (BrSMG). Attacking the bolt pistol before the SMG seems to display alternative motives rather than balance because the first thing that comes to mind when I think of sidearm parity is equalizing the smg to the other sidearms. That doesn't mean that sidearm parity wouldn't nerf the bolt pistol in a particular manner, but clearly not looking at the biggest offender in sidearm imbalance is suspect. Nonono, you don't understand. You are never supposed to call kirk out on factional bias - everything that's gallente is underpowered (even when it's not) and everything that's caldari is overpowered AND bullshit. Listen and Believe, don't contradict the narrative. I mean look at how weak that gallente assault bonus is? It needs to be 200% range, 400% rate of fire and 10000% damage per level! The bolt pistol does occasionally seem to have wierd magnetism on its hipfire though, but actually aiming it can cause utterly stupid misses cause wigglewigglewiggle & ferroscales (HOW DARE MY WIGGLEWIGGLE BE NERFED BY ACTUAL ARMOR PLATES!) I like how you automatically result throwing your agenda immediately. God forbid I complain about a Caldari weapon, I'm not allowed to at all because I'm Gallente. You guys really need to get it together and grow up because this is extremely annoying. No one bats an eye when I talk about Scrambler Rifles or buffing shields but you guys all love to detect it when I notice that something Caldari is overpowered. You people suffer from the most sever case of confirmation biased I've ever seen and it is a complete joke. However, thanks for your over exaggeration of my actions again. I thought you were doing better with that now but I can see you're not. Sgt Kirk's Gallente Propaganda Youtube Channel
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.05.28 15:08:00 - [40] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: I like how you automatically result throwing your agenda immediately. God forbid I complain about a Caldari weapon, I'm not allowed to at all because I'm Gallente. You guys really need to get it together and grow up because this is extremely annoying. No one bats an eye when I talk about Scrambler Rifles or buffing shields but you guys all love to detect it when I notice that something Caldari is overpowered. You people suffer from the most sever case of confirmation biased I've ever seen and it is a complete joke. However, thanks for your over exaggeration of my actions again. I thought you were doing better with that now but I can see you're not. Oh no, did I upset you Mr.I want to be cpm? How dare someone highlight your bias (let alone four people in the same thread lol). What agenda am I throwing around here kirk? Have I shouted about how caldari things need to be buffed? No, I've only called out your bias. Also lol the hypocrisy and doublestandards in "When i talk about SCR or buffing shields" cause when I do the same about AR, Gal assault or Ion pistol you show up to shout "YOU'RE NOT GALLENTE AND I DONT CARE IF YOU HAVE AN ALT THATS SKILLED INTO GALLENTE THINGS YOU DONT PLAY IT 52 HOURS A DAY! SO YOUR EXPERIENCE DOESN'T COUNT!". It's kind of hilarious that a few people calling you out can reduce you to a gibbering caricature. Find a real **ing problem to complain about. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.** I have a few alts.

Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.05.28 15:18:00 - [41] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: I like how you automatically result throwing your agenda immediately. God forbid I complain about a Caldari weapon, I'm not allowed to at all because I'm Gallente. You guys really need to get it together and grow up because this is extremely annoying. No one bats an eye when I talk about Scrambler Rifles or buffing shields but you guys all love to detect it when I notice that something Caldari is overpowered. You people suffer from the most sever case of confirmation biased I've ever seen and it is a complete joke. However, thanks for your over exaggeration of my actions again. I thought you were doing better with that now but I can see you're not. Oh no, did I upset you Mr.I want to be cpm? How dare someone highlight your bias (let alone four people in the same thread lol). Find a real ****ing problem to complain about. You heard it here First. Bolt Pistol isn't a problem guys. Talk about bias Your post are fine when they don't contain your massive amounts of angst but I see you're in one of your moods again so ill set you aside until you because reasonable again. Sgt Kirk's Gallente Propaganda Youtube Channel
7th Son 7 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.05.28 15:23:00 - [42] - Quote So I take it I won't be seeing a Bolt Pistol montage from Sgt Kirk anytime soon, check Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ----- OSHO
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.05.28 15:29:00 - [43] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: You heard it here First. Bolt Pistol isn't a problem guys. Talk about bias Your post are fine when they don't contain your massive amounts of angst but I see you're in one of your moods again so ill set you aside until you because reasonable again. Hey, at least I come out of my 'moods'. You've wedged your head so far up your butt it's astonishing. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 10	Posted - 2015.05.28 15:31:00 - [44] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: You heard it here First. Bolt Pistol isn't a problem guys. Talk about bias Your post are fine when they don't contain your massive amounts of angst but I see you're in one of your moods again so ill set you aside until you because reasonable again. Hey, at least I come out of my 'moods'. You've wedged your head so far up your butt it's astonishing. Would you just stop..? I mean, seriously... Design a Skin Challenge POLL (Vote Now!)
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.05.28 15:31:00 - [45] - Quote 7th Son 7 wrote: So I take it I won't be seeing a Bolt Pistol montage from Sgt Kirk anytime soon, check I didn't even use the AR when it was OP because I have an immense hatred of anything easy mode. (save for my tank, but tanks insight such bloodlust you can't be in one that's not OP or you'll die in a second) Ahh ****, I should have been working on my car while its still not hot outside I will upload a video possibly tomorrow, haven't uploaded one in a while. Sgt Kirk's Gallente Propaganda Youtube Channel
7th Son 7 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.05.28 15:41:00 - [46] - Quote Everybody should stop fighting because apparently this sidearm is the only weopon you will ever need in Dust http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7_WurACsQAg Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ----- OSHO
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.05.28 15:41:00 - [47] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: You heard it here First. Bolt Pistol isn't a problem guys. Talk about bias Your post are fine when they don't contain your massive amounts of angst but I see you're in one of your moods again so ill set you aside until you because reasonable again. Hey, at least I come out of my 'moods'. You've wedged your head so far up your butt it's astonishing. Would you just stop..? I mean, seriously... Say please. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 10	Posted - 2015.05.28 15:46:00 - [48] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: You heard it here First. Bolt Pistol isn't a problem guys. Talk about bias Your post are fine when they don't contain your massive amounts of angst but I see you're in one of your moods again so ill set you aside until you because reasonable again. Hey, at least I come out of my 'moods'. You've wedged your head so far up your butt it's astonishing. Would you just stop..? I mean, seriously... Say please. No, dude, you're being ******* rude for rudeness sake. There's nothing objective about what you're saying and you're just bashing the dude because you don't like him. Design a Skin Challenge POLL (Vote Now!)
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.05.28 15:56:00 - [49] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: No, dude, you're being ***** rude for rudeness sake. There's nothing objective about what you're saying and you're just bashing the dude because you don't like him. I don't mind kirk when he isn't being an idiot, unfortunately he seems to get some sort of perverse thrill out of missing the point which quite honestly makes him sound like an idiot quite frequently. Unfortunately Aeon, I am being pretty objective about this - kirk has historically demonstrated hilarious bias in the past. I mean lets look back to the breach AR when it was overpowered, Kirk shows up screaming that absolutely nothing is wrong with it and it's fine, cause gallente ra-ra-ra-freedom! Before you start making comparisons with me here, you might want to reread my initial post here (a couple of times, I know you can be a little bit slow and reading comprehension is hard) - I have outright said that the bolt pistol does seem to have weird magnetism at times: I am not in the process of denying what is clearly observable. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.** I have a few alts.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.05.28 16:11:00 - [50] - Quote Just before I head out, thanks for the personal attacks looks good on you. Second, once again even though we already trashed this claim when you and your buddy adipdi were trying to convince people of it I clearly said in multiple threads that it just needs a slight tone down, nothing drastic, or just change its functionality completely, comparing it to the ARR when no one found a problem with that. But if course, not going with the hive mind mob mentality of the forums asking a weapon to be nerfed to the ground clearly makes me bias because it is a Gallente weapon. Last post before I seriously head out But you suffer from conformation bias. You know what that is? Its is the tendency to search for, interpret, or recall information in a way that confirms one's beliefs or hypotheses. It is a type of cognitive bias and a systematic error of inductive reasoning. People display this bias when they gather or remember information selectively, or when they interpret it in a biased way. The effect is stronger for emotionally charged issues and for deeply entrenched beliefs. People also tend to interpret ambiguous evidence as supporting their existing position. That's you, to a tee. Sgt Kirk's Gallente Propaganda Youtube Channel

MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.05.28 16:14:00 - [51] - Quote Sure thing jingo. Why don't you go find another 'overpowered' thing that belongs to the caldari to complain about. I mean god rail weaponry is so long ranged! It's not fair! Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.05.28 16:30:00 - [52] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Sure thing jingo. Why don't you go find another 'overpowered' thing that belongs to the caldari to complain about. I mean god rail weaponry is so long ranged! It's not fair! Look, another example. Great job I've never said anything remotely similar to that. You want me to so desperately though. People also blame me for lag and making them DC as well. Clearly I'm just some evil mastermind Sgt Kirk's Gallente Propaganda Youtube Channel
Verdia DeMosays Alexylva Paradox Low-Class 3	Posted - 2015.05.28 16:35:00 - [53] - Quote Ooh, good show! popcorn Sorry, I'm used to wormhole space, what are these Empire thingies?
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.05.28 16:46:00 - [54] - Quote Verdia DeMosays wrote: Ooh, good show! popcorn I agree, this is getting ridiculous. Sgt Kirk's Gallente Propaganda Youtube Channel
Vesta Opalus Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 765	Posted - 2015.05.28 16:57:00 - [55] - Quote Bolt pistol is in a good spot, but the SMG is clearly better all around. Not sure why the bolt pistol is so rage inducing for people, but I think its fine myself, and the crappy sidearms (scrambler pistol/ion pistol/magsec) should be brought up to the SMG/flaylock/bolt pistol/nove knife level, not the other way around.
Vesta Opalus Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 765	Posted - 2015.05.28 17:01:00 - [56] - Quote 7th Son 7 wrote: Everybody should stop fighting because apparently this sidearm is the only weopon you will ever need in Dust http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7_WurACsQAg How does he even do this? When I use the burst scp the reticle jumps out so far on the first burst that the only bullet that ever hits is the first shot of the first burst
7th Son 7 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.05.28 17:03:00 - [57] - Quote Vesta Opalus wrote: 7th Son 7 wrote: Everybody should stop fighting because apparently this sidearm is the only weopon you will ever need in Dust http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7_WurACsQAg How does he even do this? When I use the burst scp the reticle jumps out so far on the first burst that the only bullet that ever hits is the first shot of the first burst I honestly have no idea man, I thought the same thing. Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ----- OSHO
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 10	Posted - 2015.05.28 17:07:00 - [58] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: I don't mind kirk when he isn't being an idiot, unfortunately he seems to get some sort of perverse thrill out of missing the point which quite honestly makes him sound like an idiot frequently... In short kirk often under-represents his intelligence or lets some other factor grab ahold of him, which turns him from a somewhat reasonable individual into a frothing jingoist. Unfortunately Aeon, I am being pretty objective about this - kirk has historically demonstrated hilarious bias in the past. -Glances up- MINA Longstrike wrote: Sure thing jingo. Why don't you go find another 'overpowered' thing that belongs to the caldari to complain about. I mean god rail weaponry is so long ranged! It's not fair! -Looks down- Dude, are you high? Design a Skin Challenge POLL (Vote Now!)
Apocalyptic Destroyerr Shining Flame Amarr Empire 186	Posted - 2015.05.28 17:30:00 - [59] - Quote It was confirmed by Rattati and Videos that the bolt pistol does fire rounds that Follow the Targets Head/Body
Dreis ShadowWeaver 0uter.Heaven 4	Posted - 2015.05.28 23:00:00 - [60] - Quote It was my understanding that the Bolt Pistol was intentionally given bullet magnetism to compensate for it's poor hit detection. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog Caldari blood, Matari heart <3



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