This is primarily why I suggest having some sort of embarking or disembarking modifier for vehicles.

This is a huge issue with Tank Combat in this game right now. A Tanker will effectively win the fight or their opponent make a mistake, rather than the winning pilot being rewarded or the losing tanker being punished, they pathetically are rewarded instead for losing.

What is the purpose of fighting in Tanks anyway if you simply hop out when you lose to use high Alpha AV to trivialise the fight.

Would it be fair if every time I would normally lose a dropsuit I transform instantly into an HAV?

They hop out mid fight to throw lai dais along with their passengers.

They roll with AV on their suit as well for maximum ball licking.

This game is bad, sure. But the players are why its dead.

They hop out mid fight to throw lai dais along with their passengers.

They roll with AV on their suit as well for maximum ball licking.

This game is bad, sure. But the players are why its dead.

They hop out mid fight to throw lai dais along with their passengers.

They roll with AV on their suit as well for maximum ball licking.

This game is bad, sure. But the players are why its dead.

I remember a time where two other forge gunners and I would drive our LAV up to tanks, simultaneously jump out, and managed to wreak havoc on the unsuspecting pilots.

Pilot Suit
* Squishy, low-profile scout-like frame (w/cloak)
* Sidearm only, no grenades
* Needed to competently pilot a vehicle

Vehicles piloted by a pilot travel at 100% of today's movement speeds. Vehicles piloted by a non-pilot travel at 70% of today's movement speeds. If movement penalties alone are insufficient to set the pilot apart, could also penalties to turret rotation, damage, and so on.

This is primarily why I suggest having some sort of embarking or disembarking modifier for vehicles.

This is a huge issue with Tank Combat in this game right now. A Tanker will effectively win the fight or their opponent make a mistake, rather than the winning pilot being rewarded or the losing tanker being punished, they pathetically are rewarded instead for losing.

What is the purpose of fighting in Tanks anyway if you simply hop out when you lose to use high Alpha AV to trivialise the fight.

Would it be fair if every time I would normally lose a dropsuit I transform instantly into an HAV?

Someone is salty they got straight rekt @the butthurt general. Maybe you should learn how to not get face gapped by a blaster tank before you go hide in GD bring it to the war room...... Or you to scarred to get your tags laughed at LOLFA

Someone is salty they got straight rekt @the butthurt general. Maybe you should learn how to not get face gapped by a blaster tank before you go hide in GD bring it to the war room...... Or you to scarred to get your tags laughed at LOLFA

Pilot dropsuits could be required to receive vehicle skill bonuses.

E.g. Vehicle Electronics gives 5% more vehicle CPU per level. If you are piloting it in an assault, sentinel, or scout dropsuit you do not get that extra 5% CPU per level, which could potentially invalidate your fitting.

So, the smart thing to do is scrubby?

Just so I'm clear, as long as they blow up and die "honorably" by what ever standards you pull out of your butt, it's okay?

So, the smart thing to do is scrubby?

Just so I'm clear, as long as they blow up and die "honorably" by what ever standards you pull out of your butt, it's okay?

Pilot Suit
* Squishy, low-profile scout-like frame (w/cloak)
* Sidearm only, no grenades
* Needed to competently pilot a vehicle

Vehicles piloted by a pilot travel at 100% of today's movement speeds. Vehicles piloted by a non-pilot travel at 70% of today's movement speeds. If movement penalties alone are insufficient to set the pilot apart, could also include penalties to turret rotation, damage, and so on.

So the issue here is that the pilot doesn't 'go down with the ship' and instead tries to actually win the fight while he's still able?

I'm sorry, but I don't see the problem with someone attempting to still win an engagement even after they've lost their largest asset against someone who still has their largest asset. Maybe I don't understand the frustration because I'm not a tanker, but the fact that the opposing tank has a person inside it who can still get out and shoot shouldn't be that surprising and it shouldn't be that upsetting when they keep fighting after they've lost their tank, either.

Pilot Suit
* Squishy, low-profile scout-like frame (w/cloak)
* Sidearm only, no grenades
* Needed to competently pilot a vehicle

Vehicles piloted by a pilot travel at 100% of today's movement speeds. Vehicles piloted by a non-pilot travel at 70% of today's movement speeds. If movement penalties alone are insufficient to set the pilot apart, could also include penalties to turret rotation, damage, and so on.

If a snake hisses and lunges at me, I will sure as hell retaliate.

You said it yourself...YOU ARE NOT A TANKER. Bye bye.

The point of the thread is pretty self evident, to complain about the tactic. But this is a pretty a good starting point for a conversation, the solution would seem to be a pretty obvious one as well.

Leaving any vehicle in the game should require a player to hold down the escape button for X amount of time. Perhaps accompanied with some extra UI to show a progress bar for the actual leaving of the vehicle. Starting the progress bar immediately locks up the controls of the vehicles and makes you or anyone else in the vehicle unable to shoot or aim. At the point where the progress bar fills everyone is ejected at once. Gunners/Passengers can leave independently of the pilot if they so choose without effecting the vehicle mechanics. Pilots leaving cause the entire vehicle to shut down.

Kills 2 birds with 1 stone. It'll allow pilots to force eject and recall if they so choose and still allows gunners to exit and enter freely while making it so the meta surrounding jumping out of a tank and spamming Lai Dais more of a commitment. ie. you won't be able to leave a tank right before it explodes unless you'd already been charging the exit bar.

Additional mechanics to consider? Maybe the pilot leaving the vehicle causes any vehicle modules to shut down, making it easier for someone to kill a player trying to escape their vehicle.

That would be the coolest thing I ever saw.

Sounds like a viable tactic to me.

Sounds like a double dipping, scrub tactic that relies on shoddy power player game mechanics to compete. Low class. To be expected from third world asymetrical warfare types.

Using babies as shields seems valid too. Why not?

I remember a time where two other forge gunners and I would drive our LAV up to tanks, simultaneously jump out, and managed to wreak havoc on the unsuspecting pilots.