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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.05.21 02:29:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:They hop out mid fight to throw lai dais along with their passengers.
They roll with AV on their suit as well for maximum ball licking.
This game is bad, sure. But the players are why its dead.
This is primarily why I suggest having some sort of embarking or disembarking modifier for vehicles.
This is a huge issue with Tank Combat in this game right now. A Tanker will effectively win the fight or their opponent make a mistake, rather than the winning pilot being rewarded or the losing tanker being punished, they pathetically are rewarded instead for losing.
What is the purpose of fighting in Tanks anyway if you simply hop out when you lose to use high Alpha AV to trivialise the fight.
Would it be fair if every time I would normally lose a dropsuit I transform instantly into an HAV?
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.05.21 04:12:00 -
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I generally think the majority of you are missing the point of this post.
The issue here is that in a tank engagement we have a situation where one party beats his opponent yet that opponent can instantly escape death, then apply an insane amount of anti-vehicle fire and essentially punish the other player for winning the fight.
E.G- I am shooting at Aero for some reason. I am winning. He instantly changes location appearing with more armour and shield and starts apply damage from homing grenades and possibly a homing rocket launcher or or rapid fire machinegun.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.05.21 04:37:00 -
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No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote:So the issue here is that the pilot doesn't 'go down with the ship' and instead tries to actually win the fight while he's still able?
I'm sorry, but I don't see the problem with someone attempting to still win an engagement even after they've lost their largest asset against someone who still has their largest asset. Maybe I don't understand the frustration because I'm not a tanker, but the fact that the opposing tank has a person inside it who can still get out and shoot shouldn't be that surprising and it shouldn't be that upsetting when they keep fighting after they've lost their tank, either.
No Mr Alt it's that this specific mechanics punishes someone who is superior within their medium by instantly allowing another player to transfer from that medium into a a counter role while at the same time reaping the benefits of already having inflicted a large amount of damage.
The fact is that this does not make for 'good' or 'enjoyable' gameplay and only serves to be a frustrating cop out.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.05.21 04:47:00 -
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SLENDER M4N wrote:*grabs poop corn* Yes, I typed poop corn. Deal with it 
You eat poop corn?
As in the corn that you poop out?
Interesting........
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.05.21 05:07:00 -
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No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote:True Adamance wrote:No Mr Alt it's that this specific mechanics punishes someone who is superior within their medium by instantly allowing another player to transfer from that medium into a a counter role while at the same time reaping the benefits of already having inflicted a large amount of damage.
The fact is that this does not make for 'good' or 'enjoyable' gameplay and only serves to be a frustrating cop out. I'm assuming 'Mr. Alt' is an insult and I have no idea why you would be insulting me just because I'm not posting on my main. We can have a reasonable discussion without being rude. I just like this name better. It makes me chuckle, and I hoped others would, too. If I could rename my main I totally would. Back on subject; again, yeah, it sucks, but those are risks you're well aware of when you get onto the field. Now I admit that being able to immediately jump out of the tank is pretty ******, and if there were some sort of delay on exiting, like was suggested on the previous page, it'd probably do wonders for tank engagements. Not only would it make it far more difficult for them to get out last second, you would know they had escaped their tank when they stop firing for a couple of seconds and you would then know to be on the lookout. It would have the added benefit of making them a much easier target while they tried to escape. My thing is that it seems like people are acting like they have literally no way to defend themselves when someone does get out last second. Did you destroy a tank that had a +2 next to the pilot's name, but you only got two kills when it was destroyed? Assume someone got out and either retreat to recover or be on high alert. Do you see the guy charging up their forge gun, plasma cannon, or swarm launcher? GTFO ASAP or hope you can get them before they get you. Did they kill you before you even noticed they escaped? Tough luck, it could have been anyone else in the vicinity who happened to have an AV weapon and it'd suck just as hard.
It's not an insult it's a matter of fact as your yourself admitted. A fair few people on the forums like to make snarky comments on alts for the sake of it...... unlike myself who like to make snarky comments on his main.
I am well aware its a risk I take on when I deploy the vehicle the only reason I comment on it is because I believe it to be bad mechanic that punishes a victorious player for being better than their counter part. Once that player vacates their vehicle they are immediately free of the death they should have incurred instead reappearing in a dropsuit with full HP, an AV weapon, and more oft than not close to your damaged HAV with a powerful anti-tank grenade that leaves little in the way of time to react given they home in on your vehicle.
"Crush all who complain!"
- Arkena Wyrnspire
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.05.21 21:14:00 -
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Magnus Belmont wrote:So, the smart thing to do is scrubby?
Just so I'm clear, as long as they blow up and die "honorably" by what ever standards you pull out of your butt, it's okay?
Again it's not about honourable. I have no expectations of an enemy player, I do not expect them to play by any rules that I would be prepared to dictate to them as 'honour' as I hate that term in video gaming as well.
However as I've said three or four times in this thread so far it is not about 'honour' or anything like that it is simply, in my opinion, a poor mechanic that only serves to punish the winning player arbitrarily.
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- Arkena Wyrnspire
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