Sounds like a scrubby tactic to me.

They hop out mid fight to throw lai dais along with their passengers.

They roll with AV on their suit as well for maximum ball licking.

This game is bad, sure. But the players are why its dead.

Would it be fair if every time I would normally lose a dropsuit I transform instantly into an HAV?

FTFY!

That would be the coolest thing I ever saw.

the only way to deal with a tank just dont **** with them there like umm a snake they only **** with u if u provoke them so just leave them be or wait for av support

If we had pilot suits which would ideally be a scout suit with only a sidearm and tanks could only accept drivers in pilot suits, this wouldn't be an issue.

But alas...

If a snake hisses and lunges at me, I will sure as hell retaliate.

I generally thing the majority of you are missing the point of this post.

The issue here is that in a tank engagement we have a situation where one party beats his opponent yet that opponent can instantly escape death, then apply an insane amount of anti-vehicle fire and essentially punish the other player for winning the fight.

The point of the thread is pretty self evident, to complain about the tactic. But this is a pretty a good starting point for a conversation, the solution would seem to be a pretty obvious one as well.

Leaving any vehicle in the game should require a player to hold down the escape button for X amount of time. Perhaps accompanied with some extra UI to show a progress bar for the actual leaving of the vehicle. Starting the progress bar immediately locks up the controls of the vehicles and makes you or anyone else in the vehicle unable to shoot or aim. At the point where the progress bar fills everyone is ejected at once. Gunners/Passengers can leave independently of the pilot if they so choose without effecting the vehicle mechanics. Pilots leaving cause the entire vehicle to shut down.

Kills 2 birds with 1 stone. It'll allow pilots to force eject and recall if they so choose and still allows gunners to exit and enter freely while making it so the meta surrounding jumping out of a tank and spamming Lai Dais more of a commitment. ie. you won't be able to leave a tank right before it explodes unless you'd already been charging the exit bar.

Additional mechanics to consider? Maybe the pilot leaving the vehicle causes any vehicle modules to shut down, making it easier for someone to kill a player trying to escape their vehicle.

So the issue here is that the pilot doesn't 'go down with the ship' and instead tries to actually win the fight while he's still able?

I'm sorry, but I don't see the problem with someone attempting to still win an engagement even after they've lost their largest asset against someone who still has their largest asset. Maybe I don't understand the frustration because I'm not a tanker, but the fact that the opposing tank has a person inside it who can still get out and shoot shouldn't be that surprising and it shouldn't be that upsetting when they keep fighting after they've lost their tank, either.

Making vehicles ONLY accept pilot suits would just kill vehicles imo. Forcing someone to skill into a suit just to use a vehicle isn't right. I do like the fact that it would fix pilots with AV, but while it's scrubby, it's still a viable tactic, and if the passengers jump out with it, that's still teamwork.

Personally, I think a simple an exit delay would fix this, but that's just me.




Though I would LOVE to see the pilot suit.

*grabs poop corn* Yes, I typed poop corn. Deal with it

No Mr Alt it's that this specific mechanics punishes someone who is superior within their medium by instantly allowing another player to transfer from that medium into a a counter role while at the same time reaping the benefits of already having inflicted a large amount of damage.

The fact is that this does not make for 'good' or 'enjoyable' gameplay and only serves to be a frustrating cop out.

I'm assuming 'Mr. Alt' is an insult and I have no idea why you would be insulting me just because I'm not posting on my main. We can have a reasonable discussion without being rude. I just like this name better. It makes me chuckle, and I hoped others would, too. If I could rename my main I totally would.

Back on subject; again, yeah, it sucks, but those are risks you're well aware of when you get onto the field. Now I admit that being able to immediately jump out of the tank is pretty ******, and if there were some sort of delay on exiting, like was suggested on the previous page, it'd probably do wonders for tank engagements. Not only would it make it far more difficult for them to get out last second, you would know they had escaped their tank when they stop firing for a couple of seconds and you would then know to be on the lookout. It would have the added benefit of making them a much easier target while they tried to escape.

My thing is that it seems like people are acting like they have literally no way to defend themselves when someone does get out last second. Did you destroy a tank that had a +2 next to the pilot's name, but you only got two kills when it was destroyed? Assume someone got out and either retreat to recover or be on high alert. Do you see the guy charging up their forge gun, plasma cannon, or swarm launcher? GTFO ASAP or hope you can get them before they get you. Did they kill you before you even noticed they escaped? Tough luck, it could have been anyone else in the vicinity who happened to have an AV weapon and it'd suck just as hard.

They hop out mid fight to throw lai dais along with their passengers.

They roll with AV on their suit as well for maximum ball licking.

This game is bad, sure. But the players are why its dead.