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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.05.13 20:50:00 -
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When you're redlined by the enemy team and trying to support your squad moving up with sniper fire and a blue-dot decides you're the sole reason they're losing and wastes time by:
- Standing in front of you - Shooting in front of you with a high-flash weapon (ASCR) - Pushing you around with an LAV - Blowing said LAV up because he realizes it can hurt you despite there not being friendly fire - Calling in an LAV on top of you - Constantly throwing grenades next to you to cause camera shake - Realizing they can waste all your nanohives by constantly throwing grenades
For real, the precedent you guys have set for Snipers - even snipers that are actually trying to turn things around by supporting their team as they move up in an already red-lined match - is just disgusting. This community has put such a negative light on redline snipers that even when you're 5-capped, out-numbered, and out-classed you will STILL be the lowest of the low instead of a valuable asset to the team.
Literally all you have to do is tell a half-decent sniper where you're wanting to breach and they can force just about anyone guarding the area into cover, which means -you- can move up and stomp them. But, feel free to waste time by doing any of the listed things because clearly said sniper isn't doing anything useful.
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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huopiang
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.13 20:56:00 -
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That's hilarious.
Thanks for the tips, bro! |
Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.05.13 20:58:00 -
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huopiang wrote:That's hilarious.
Thanks for the tips, bro!
Be sure not to hit the inertia dampeners on your way out of the MCC.
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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Scheneighnay McBob
And the ButtPirates
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Posted - 2015.05.13 21:05:00 -
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I remember back in closed beta, someone found out that driving at full speed toward a friendly sniper, then switching seats at the last second, would kill said sniper. The game would believe that the LAV managed to roll on top of them by itself. Ofc now, the E-brake goes on the instant someone leaves the driver's seat.
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BAD FURRY
Oh No You Didn't
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Posted - 2015.05.13 21:07:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:When you're redlined by the enemy team and trying to support your squad moving up with sniper fire and a blue-dot decides you're the sole reason they're losing and wastes time by:
- Standing in front of you - Shooting in front of you with a high-flash weapon (ASCR) - Pushing you around with an LAV - Blowing said LAV up because he realizes it can hurt you despite there not being friendly fire - Calling in an LAV on top of you - Constantly throwing grenades next to you to cause camera shake - Realizing they can waste all your nanohives by constantly throwing grenades
For real, the precedent you guys have set for Snipers - even snipers that are actually trying to turn things around by supporting their team as they move up in an already red-lined match - is just disgusting. This community has put such a negative light on redline snipers that even when you're 5-capped, out-numbered, and out-classed you will STILL be the lowest of the low instead of a valuable asset to the team.
Literally all you have to do is tell a half-decent sniper where you're wanting to breach and they can force just about anyone guarding the area into cover, which means -you- can move up and stomp them. But, feel free to waste time by doing any of the listed things because clearly said sniper isn't doing anything useful.
ez fix for this call in a railtank and tell him to F off !
unless im on the other team then your ******
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Reallusion GrimSleeper
Need Permission to Die LLC
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Posted - 2015.05.13 21:08:00 -
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A lot of snipers do absolutely nothing but go find a spot and sit there the entire game, while on the other hand you have some snipers (like me for instance) that look for critical access points to objectives and will post in an area to protect it as much as possible while shooting and moving and also swapping to a RR or so if need be. I personally swap roles back and forth, pending on what the team needs. Nobody cares enough about objectives in this game enough to try and win at all cost because the reward for doing so isn't really that significant. I dont see much SP/ISK gained difference from a win or a loss.
It's just like real wars... snipers are the most feared cause you never know where the F* they are, but they generally only take out leaders anyway so as a grunt you have no worries for him directly due to him not wanting to give his position away and risk his own life to kill someone that pretty much isn't going to change the course of the war.
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1913 DfLo
ScReWeD uP InC Smart Deploy
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Posted - 2015.05.13 21:08:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:
Be sure not to hit the inertia dampeners on your way out of the MCC.
Awesome tip and it's fun to do
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tal mrak-thanl
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.05.13 21:09:00 -
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There is a time and place to snipe, and it isn't in the redline when the point is red. There are many ways to play dust, if winning matches is your thing, strap some uplinks on and get shot a few times.
"That OB was like a wet fart" - Eros Adonai mini flux 2015
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Oswald Rehnquist
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Posted - 2015.05.13 21:15:00 -
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It is bad.
I honestly don't think people will let up on snipers unless they redo the sniper rifle. Honestly the only argument people have against it is "oh, red line, zero risk, high reward", I don't snipe because its low reward and boring, and very map dependent. I bet you if we cut its range and uped its stability and stopping power people would lose their argument line and still whine all the same.
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Minion Max
Solo Sniper Pays No Taxes
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Posted - 2015.05.13 21:16:00 -
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I call in a tank, hoping it drops on them, if not i invite them in as a second gunner. I race to the nearest turret overheating the main gun and jump out at the last second. So I might die, loose a tank, get more ISK and they die, problem solved.I go back to sniping or call another tank somewhere else. They are in every battle and most of the time they are 1-12 k/d or leave half way through butthurt.
Solo Sniper Pays No Taxes,
Semper Fi.
Cpl, 87-95
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Supernus Gigas
The Cooked Goose Coalition
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Posted - 2015.05.13 22:20:00 -
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Yeah, it sucks.
The circlejerk of hatred people have against certain roles is pretty pathetic.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
0uter.Heaven Back and Forth
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Posted - 2015.05.13 22:58:00 -
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The OP suggests that he was only sniping in the first place BECAUSE he was redlined.
Snipers are pretty much worthless. Anything a sniper can do (read: suppression), any other role/suit/weapon can do better.
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Scheneighnay McBob
And the ButtPirates
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Posted - 2015.05.13 22:59:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:It is bad.
I honestly don't think people will let up on snipers unless they redo the sniper rifle. Honestly the only argument people have against it is "oh, red line, zero risk, high reward", I don't snipe because its low reward and boring, and very map dependent. I bet you if we cut its range and uped its stability and stopping power people would lose their argument line and still whine all the same. I don't think the range should be cut. It's already a sniper rifle with less range than a RL assault rifle.
Real sniping is dead, and domination killed it. Nothing we can do about it without turning them into CoD snipers, which would cause Dust players everywhere to storm the CCP offices and kill everyone.
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VALCORE72
Vengeance Unbound RUST415
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Posted - 2015.05.13 23:11:00 -
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i will do all of the above now . snipers are a waste of space in game cause of the range and red lines . i hate snipers lol |
Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.05.13 23:17:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:The OP suggests that he was only sniping in the first place BECAUSE he was redlined. Snipers are pretty much worthless. Anything a sniper can do (read: suppression), any other role/suit/weapon can do better.
Go run at a wall of infantry when you're redlined without sniper support and see how well that plays out for you.
Be sure to record it so we can laugh at how stupid you are for dying over and over again.
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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VALCORE72
Vengeance Unbound RUST415
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Posted - 2015.05.13 23:21:00 -
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red lined = pro scout fully dampen . uplinks ........ poof no more red line lol . |
Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.05.13 23:25:00 -
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VALCORE72 wrote:red lined = pro scout fully dampen . uplinks ........ poof no more red line lol .
That explains why Dreis is being so uppity then I guess. EDIT: Which is great for someone fully specced into Scouts but for those of us that aren't, well, don't judge.
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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VALCORE72
Vengeance Unbound RUST415
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Posted - 2015.05.13 23:27:00 -
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its what the cloaks were made for .sorry been in too many games with 5 snipers not pushn the point . i am going to drop tanks on them now lol |
Tech De Ra
Electronic Sports League
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Posted - 2015.05.13 23:32:00 -
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99% of snipers are a detriment to the team
you cant push out of the redline without actually.... you know...pushing
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2015.05.13 23:35:00 -
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Snipers are useless now.
I am saddened by this, but they are. They are also constantly shamed for trying to play the hardest role in the game.
Has anyone ever thought about how terrible the SR's Hit Detection is? How they will have dropships hunting them? That they must have to perfect spot to avoid getting killed?
The true shame should be directed towards those who direct it towards Snipers.
Well... except for Commando Snipers... those guys are really only there for KDR.
Day 6/30 Calscout Knifer/Last of A Kind/Sneaky
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Oswald Rehnquist
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Posted - 2015.05.13 23:39:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Oswald Rehnquist wrote:It is bad.
I honestly don't think people will let up on snipers unless they redo the sniper rifle. Honestly the only argument people have against it is "oh, red line, zero risk, high reward", I don't snipe because its low reward and boring, and very map dependent. I bet you if we cut its range and uped its stability and stopping power people would lose their argument line and still whine all the same. I don't think the range should be cut. It's already a sniper rifle with less range than a RL assault rifle. Real sniping is dead, and domination killed it. Nothing we can do about it without turning them into CoD snipers, which would cause Dust players everywhere to storm the CCP offices and kill everyone.
The ScR functions like a high power short range sniper rifle. Its what I use if I want to be a "sniper", clears out shields and you can use a bolt pistol to clean up, its also easier to aim for headshots too, fixing the sniper rifle to be more within the line of the Laser rifle is not a radical suggestion.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2015.05.13 23:48:00 -
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I miss grenade ganking
There's never enough sh**posting going on, so let's add a few more teaspoons of the guy posting after me to the recipie!
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.05.13 23:50:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Oswald Rehnquist wrote:It is bad.
I honestly don't think people will let up on snipers unless they redo the sniper rifle. Honestly the only argument people have against it is "oh, red line, zero risk, high reward", I don't snipe because its low reward and boring, and very map dependent. I bet you if we cut its range and uped its stability and stopping power people would lose their argument line and still whine all the same. I don't think the range should be cut. It's already a sniper rifle with less range than a RL assault rifle. Real sniping is dead, and domination killed it. Nothing we can do about it without turning them into CoD snipers, which would cause Dust players everywhere to storm the CCP offices and kill everyone. The ScR functions like a high power short range sniper rifle. Its what I use if I want to be a "sniper", clears out shields and you can use a bolt pistol to clean up, its also easier to aim for headshots too, fixing the sniper rifle to be more within the line of the Laser rifle is not a radical suggestion.
Or just giving the Laser Rifle a scope and a range buff and making it a really awesome sniper rifle that rewards staying on target instead of maybe kinda/sorta getting lucky with hit detection.
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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Tech De Ra
Electronic Sports League
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Posted - 2015.05.14 00:10:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Oswald Rehnquist wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Oswald Rehnquist wrote:It is bad.
I honestly don't think people will let up on snipers unless they redo the sniper rifle. Honestly the only argument people have against it is "oh, red line, zero risk, high reward", I don't snipe because its low reward and boring, and very map dependent. I bet you if we cut its range and uped its stability and stopping power people would lose their argument line and still whine all the same. I don't think the range should be cut. It's already a sniper rifle with less range than a RL assault rifle. Real sniping is dead, and domination killed it. Nothing we can do about it without turning them into CoD snipers, which would cause Dust players everywhere to storm the CCP offices and kill everyone. The ScR functions like a high power short range sniper rifle. Its what I use if I want to be a "sniper", clears out shields and you can use a bolt pistol to clean up, its also easier to aim for headshots too, fixing the sniper rifle to be more within the line of the Laser rifle is not a radical suggestion. Or just giving the Laser Rifle a scope and a range buff and making it a really awesome sniper rifle that rewards staying on target instead of maybe kinda/sorta getting lucky with hit detection.
Dont you relegate my LR to a ******* cowards weapon, its perfect as is >:[
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thor424
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.14 00:16:00 -
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There's literally never a time where you are doing less for your team than when you decide to snipe.
The high uplink guys are even above snipers in my book. Nothing would be better for Dust than completely removing the sniper rifle (aside from a PS4 port).
If snipers ruin my match, I'll spend the remainder of that match putting equipment in front of them to screw up their view and standing in front of them. It's also funny scraping them off of towers with a dropship.
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2015.05.14 00:51:00 -
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thor424 wrote:There's literally never a time where you are doing less for your team than when you decide to snipe.
The high uplink guys are even above snipers in my book. Nothing would be better for Dust than completely removing the sniper rifle (aside from a PS4 port).
If snipers ruin my match, I'll spend the remainder of that match putting equipment in front of them to screw up their view and standing in front of them. It's also funny scraping them off of towers with a dropship. AFK. TKing Wasting time by messing with snipers.
Leave the snipers be and go fight, messing them up will do nothing except make them more helpful than you.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.05.14 00:59:00 -
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Tech De Ra wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Oswald Rehnquist wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Oswald Rehnquist wrote:It is bad.
I honestly don't think people will let up on snipers unless they redo the sniper rifle. Honestly the only argument people have against it is "oh, red line, zero risk, high reward", I don't snipe because its low reward and boring, and very map dependent. I bet you if we cut its range and uped its stability and stopping power people would lose their argument line and still whine all the same. I don't think the range should be cut. It's already a sniper rifle with less range than a RL assault rifle. Real sniping is dead, and domination killed it. Nothing we can do about it without turning them into CoD snipers, which would cause Dust players everywhere to storm the CCP offices and kill everyone. The ScR functions like a high power short range sniper rifle. Its what I use if I want to be a "sniper", clears out shields and you can use a bolt pistol to clean up, its also easier to aim for headshots too, fixing the sniper rifle to be more within the line of the Laser rifle is not a radical suggestion. Or just giving the Laser Rifle a scope and a range buff and making it a really awesome sniper rifle that rewards staying on target instead of maybe kinda/sorta getting lucky with hit detection. Dont you relegate my LR to a ******* cowards weapon, its perfect as is >:[
Can I at least have a variant?
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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Minion Max
Solo Sniper Pays No Taxes
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Posted - 2015.05.14 01:01:00 -
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thor424 wrote:There's literally never a time where you are doing less for your team than when you decide to snipe.
The high uplink guys are even above snipers in my book. Nothing would be better for Dust than completely removing the sniper rifle (aside from a PS4 port).
If snipers ruin my match, I'll spend the remainder of that match putting equipment in front of them to screw up their view and standing in front of them. It's also funny scraping them off of towers with a dropship.
Funny you would post, I dropped you a couple of times in one match unless there is more than on person with the "thor##" name. You had to come hunt me down and empty the magazine on me, talk about a butthurt revenge kill. In the last 11 matches, Dom and Skirm, I have 105K, 21A and 8D so I have not helped out one bit as a sniper. I snipe from spots that are between the redline boundaries or to the sides of the map. I have sat at the point with light suit,sniper/pistol defending and dropping spawn and ammo on maps that I am no help from 400m. The people that do nothing for the team stand in front of snipers, knock them off buildings or stand in front of them. They do nothing to win, just cause people to quit playing. You know they guy in high school that kept getting their a55 kicked by the middle school girls for their lunch money and do crap like you do to feel like they have a set of usable balls.
Solo Sniper Pays No Taxes,
Semper Fi.
Cpl, 87-95
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.05.14 01:02:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Snipers are useless now. I am saddened by this, but they are. They are also constantly shamed for trying to play the hardest role in the game. Has anyone ever thought about how terrible the SR's Hit Detection is? How they will have dropships hunting them? That they must have to perfect spot to avoid getting killed? The true shame should be directed towards those who direct it towards Snipers. Well... except for Commando Snipers... those guys are really only there for KDR. Only good sniper is the Thale's. |
Heimdallr69
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Posted - 2015.05.14 01:03:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I remember back in closed beta, someone found out that driving at full speed toward a friendly sniper, then switching seats at the last second, would kill said sniper. The game would believe that the LAV managed to roll on top of them by itself. Ofc now, the E-brake goes on the instant someone leaves the driver's seat. Brought to you by the Imps.. I did that wayyy too much, it wasn't a thing till dingle made a thread about it letting people know our dirty secrets
^Dingle was not his name
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