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demens grimwulff
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.05.11 19:06:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Okay, here it goes AGAIN.
If you kill me say, 15 times in a match, and i kill you 5. I'm wearing BPOs, your in full proto. Who made more money?
You go negative ISK, and I go positive. Over a series of matches with the same results (you're 15/5 to me and I'm 5/15 to you) you will eventually be unable to play because you're out of money, while I have made nothing but profit because it costs nothing to run my suits.
ISK efficiency is the true metric for determining skill in this game. Kdr only matters in games where everyone is on relatively equal footing and there are no other metrics to determine aptitude, see COD. Because of the great disparity between BPO and proto suits in terms of raw power (APEX have slightly closed that gap) kdr is almost a worthless metric because a proto sentineversus a bunch of starter suits takes no skill on the sentinel's part because he is so much stronger than the militia crap he's killing. Isk efficiency? That's poor people talk lol
Yea, my piggy bank don't care about no isk efficiency.
If I need isk I am sitting on 5 balac smgs, and a good deal of other officer weapons
As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
8638
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Posted - 2015.05.11 19:11:00 -
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demens grimwulff wrote:Reign Omega wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Okay, here it goes AGAIN.
If you kill me say, 15 times in a match, and i kill you 5. I'm wearing BPOs, your in full proto. Who made more money?
You go negative ISK, and I go positive. Over a series of matches with the same results (you're 15/5 to me and I'm 5/15 to you) you will eventually be unable to play because you're out of money, while I have made nothing but profit because it costs nothing to run my suits.
ISK efficiency is the true metric for determining skill in this game. Kdr only matters in games where everyone is on relatively equal footing and there are no other metrics to determine aptitude, see COD. Because of the great disparity between BPO and proto suits in terms of raw power (APEX have slightly closed that gap) kdr is almost a worthless metric because a proto sentineversus a bunch of starter suits takes no skill on the sentinel's part because he is so much stronger than the militia crap he's killing. Isk efficiency? That's poor people talk lol Yea, my piggy bank don't care about no isk efficiency. If I need isk I am sitting on 5 balac smgs, and a good deal of other officer weapons
I have over 50 cala SMGs
I didn't figure anyone would want them.
There's never enough sh**posting going on, so let's add a few more teaspoons of the guy posting after me to the recipie!
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
6510
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Posted - 2015.05.11 19:22:00 -
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KDR is only important if you have the context to interpret it.
For instance a KDR of 2 is...
Fantastic for a Logi.
Quite Good for an Assault.
Not so good for a Sniper.
Terrible for a Tanker.
Someone with a KDR of 0.8 might be a really good Logi, or a not very good Sentinel.
Someone with a KDR of 5 might be a very good Assault, or a Redline Sniper.
KDR is a good way to measure your own progress because you have the context to interpret it properly, but I would not advise using KDR to judge someone else unless you know their play styles in great detail.
As for winning matches, KDR is only really relevant in Ambush, or if a team gets cloned in other game modes, and even then, revives are not recorded, so a Logi with 0.5 KDR may still have saved enough clones to have a positive contribution.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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demens grimwulff
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
332
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Posted - 2015.05.11 19:58:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:
I didn't figure anyone would want them.
I know someone who will buy them all on the spot
As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end
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elric the enchanter
xCosmic Voidx
428
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Posted - 2015.05.12 07:05:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:demens grimwulff wrote:Reign Omega wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Okay, here it goes AGAIN.
If you kill me say, 15 times in a match, and i kill you 5. I'm wearing BPOs, your in full proto. Who made more money?
You go negative ISK, and I go positive. Over a series of matches with the same results (you're 15/5 to me and I'm 5/15 to you) you will eventually be unable to play because you're out of money, while I have made nothing but profit because it costs nothing to run my suits.
ISK efficiency is the true metric for determining skill in this game. Kdr only matters in games where everyone is on relatively equal footing and there are no other metrics to determine aptitude, see COD. Because of the great disparity between BPO and proto suits in terms of raw power (APEX have slightly closed that gap) kdr is almost a worthless metric because a proto sentineversus a bunch of starter suits takes no skill on the sentinel's part because he is so much stronger than the militia crap he's killing. Isk efficiency? That's poor people talk lol Yea, my piggy bank don't care about no isk efficiency. If I need isk I am sitting on 5 balac smgs, and a good deal of other officer weapons I have over 50 cala SMGs I didn't figure anyone would want them.
I like 'em
I've still got maybe 30+ but when I run out I may give you a call
Cosmic Void Minister of Silly Weapons
Heinz Guderian predicted Tank514
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Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
1397
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Posted - 2015.05.12 07:44:00 -
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Genral69 death wrote:In my recent months playing I've noticed that a large majority don't care about there KD at all but why? I can understand logis, there relying on someone else as they are weak (meaning less hp as assault and heavys). This game is mainly about performance getting your sp up as fast as you can, to acquire better items (which is great) but however not many care about kd and I like to know why .
I get that most people including myself weren't great when we first started this game but surly you've improved over time playing
I enjoy it when my KD goes up, its shows that I'm slowing improving . Went from 1.89 to 2.08 in maybe a month =ƒÿÅ
Please leave Postive feedback why you think it doesn't matter to most people
Let me put it this way. I have a lot of ISK due to trading and playing the game itself. So losing 8+ suits a match doesn't really bother me.
I would rather sacrifice my suit, my isk, and my kdr for victory and reap the rewards (and tears).
Today's special:
PAIN
Comes with a side of salads and mash potatoes.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
8652
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Posted - 2015.05.12 09:05:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:
I would rather sacrifice my suit, my isk, and my kdr for victory and reap the rewards (and tears).
This guy gets it.
There's never enough sh**posting going on, so let's add a few more teaspoons of the guy posting after me to the recipie!
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Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
1398
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Posted - 2015.05.12 09:07:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:
I would rather sacrifice my suit, my isk, and my kdr for victory and reap the rewards (and tears).
This guy gets it.
Have to fill my bathtub somehow.
Today's special:
PAIN
Comes with a side of salads and mash potatoes.
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clown babee
All Up In Your Butt
6
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Posted - 2015.05.12 23:57:00 -
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Albyat Tyre wrote:I worked my kdr up to 1.34 but I wasn't having fun. So then, I said f*** it . Spent one entire dom match in free suit suicide leap from mcc. Had a blast. Died 32 times before match was over. Kdr down to 1.18 and I'm having fun again. Didn't care who i pissed off but it was fun watching the mass exedus from the match. My wife says I'm an a $$hole. What do you think. Do I care . NOT.
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clown babee
All Up In Your Butt
6
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Posted - 2015.05.13 00:15:00 -
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Genral69 death wrote:So theres mixed reasons according to you guys
.No benefits
. Not having fun (apparently)
. Diffident roles (logi)
Yet for some reason you all love it when your on the top of the leader board because of WP. Its more challenging to get kills than WP . Personally more satisfying when I kill a proto assault instead of 2 team spawns . But however you have enlightened me to why alit of you don't care and I thank you for that
Wow this really made me think for a minute....
You're right. I love being on the top of the board for wp. i don't even think about my kills. Now when i am spending all my time repping and reviving that might make some sense. But I don't always focus on logi. I wonder if psychologically i'm just excusing myself because I'm not very good at killing. Because I have had rare matches with a lot of kills and those are a lot of fun too. A lot for me anyway. I think my record is 16 kills.
But I also think of this. I'm still fairly new. When I hit my record recently of 3300 wp from logi i was rewarded with a s*ton of sp which i need. When I get 16 kills and hopefully a few hacks or whatever i get significantly less sp. i think the metric should be how are you helping the team and I think both of those help. Is repping more important than kills? maybe sometimes. Can I steal warpoints by hacking outside installations while the real battle is in the middle of the map? yes i can. so wp doesn't necessarily define help to the team....
I don't know the answer and I"m sorry for the rambling post but personally i look for wp more than kills. that's my short answer. i think longterm we need to look at rewards for behaviour |
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