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Genral69 death Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 236	Posted - 2015.05.09 13:52:00 - [1] - Quote In my recent months playing I've noticed that a large majority don't care about there KD at all but why? I can understand logis, there relying on someone else as they are weak (meaning less hp as assault and heavys). This game is mainly about performance getting your sp up as fast as you can, to acquire better items (which is great) but however not many care about kd and I like to know why . I get that most people including myself weren't great when we first started this game but surly you've improved over time playing I enjoy it when my KD goes up, its shows that I'm slowing improving . Went from 1.89 to 2.08 in maybe a month =ƒÿÅ Please leave Postive feedback why you think it doesn't matter to most people General limited: warming failure to pay, may lead to death,massive amount of pain or even lose of family. Since 1995
Raz Sidona M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command Lokun Listamenn 87	Posted - 2015.05.09 14:03:00 - [2] - Quote It's partly cause warpoints are more important. They determine your sp rewards, idk rewards, and your position on the leaderboard after battles. Why worry about kd? Worry about warpoints to
LT SHANKS You In The Nutz 5834	Posted - 2015.05.09 14:13:00 - [3] - Quote Two months ago, I dropped from a 1.73 KD/R to 1.72. It hasn't gone back up and even nearing 50k kills, I couldn't care less about it because 1.0 was the goal I had set out to achieve many moons ago.
Sicerly Yaw Quantum times 138	Posted - 2015.05.09 14:16:00 - [4] - Quote Genral69 death wrote: In my recent months playing I've noticed that a large majority don't care about there KD at all but why? I can understand logis, there relying on someone else as they are weak (meaning less hp as assault and heavys). This game is mainly about performance getting your sp up as fast as you can, to acquire better items (which is great) but however not many care about kd and I like to know why . I get that most people including myself weren't great when we first started this game but surly you've improved over time playing I enjoy it when my KD goes up, its shows that I'm slowing improving . Went from 1.89 to 2.08 in maybe a month =ƒÿÅ Please leave Postive feedback why you think it doesn't matter to most people because KD means almost nothing when you get put up against proto stompers or complete noobs meaning if you play against mostly new players you'll have a better kd but if you get put up against proto you'll have a harder time then there are those who play the I must not die at all cost type and sit back in the redline with a sniper rifle in a heavy suit or in a tank or those that only play in a squad specifically to keep them alive so KD does NOT = skill so whether or not you are getting better or getting luckier is really up to the type of players you are getting put up against a good way to know how good you are is by the amount of hater & or amount of hate mail you get when playing legitly
Genral69 death Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 236	Posted - 2015.05.09 14:18:00 - [5] - Quote At least it sounds like you had a goal . 1kill for 1 death. Taking one of those damn red berry's with you =ƒÿä General limited: warming failure to pay, may lead to death,massive amount of pain or even lose of family. Since 1995
DUST Fiend 16970	Posted - 2015.05.09 14:18:00 - [6] - Quote Its a very small niche game with no true competitive scene, and is very easy to farm obscene amounts of kills in. AKA, KD is an emotional stat This thread is now a dance party ~ Dances Boldly ~ DUST STUFF
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 8478	Posted - 2015.05.09 14:19:00 - [7] - Quote There is no benefit to a high K/D. Results are the metric that matter in battle and those results are rewarded with warpoints. You can go 10/2 with a K/D of 5. You will receive a respectable 500 warpoints, which represents a solid overall contribution to the fight. But if I go on a vehicle dedestroying orgy, stopping to hack points along the way I might go (on a good day) 8/13 but finish with 1500+ warpoints and the satisfaction of the destruction of several million ISK in other people's assets. Your 5 KDR is nice. You're going to walk away with around 150,000-170,000 ISK. I'm walking away with 300,000-500,000 ISK and probably a lot of tears and hatemail sent for me to cherish. Also in comparison, if I instead go full assault, berserk the enemy and hack everything in sight, getting 1300 warpoints but going 20/20 and the team wins, which is more valuable? KDR or the end result of the battle? Violently aggressive players tend to reap more rewards than cautious ones who get a high K/D but accomplish very little. Bragging rights aren't valued by everyone, and especially with rattati's upcoming theory of changing match payouts, the ruthless pragmatists who care about results ate going to reap more rewards than those who seek bragging rights. There's never enough sh**posting going on, so let's add a few more teaspoons of the guy posting after me to the recipie!
shaman oga Dead Man's Game 4627	Posted - 2015.05.09 14:19:00 - [8] - Quote Genral69 death wrote: This game is mainly about performance getting your sp up as fast as you can, The game should be about fun, not all players are good marksman, according to what you say they should be all sniping. I'm glad that many people do not care about KDR. Shaman's Shack - A place to trade Training to be a packed RE master launcher
Scheneighnay McBob And the ButtPirates 6484	Posted - 2015.05.09 14:20:00 - [9] - Quote KD is meaningless. The most important stat to me is ISK lost per WP. Kills don't matter because there's more to the game than killing, and deaths don't matter because a death could mean losing anywhere from 10K isk to a million ISK in Dust. Bang for your buck is what's important. Some details can be ignored
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 780	Posted - 2015.05.09 14:22:00 - [10] - Quote Eve players were going to hire us to defend their planetary assets (PI factories, mineral harvesters, Cloud City gas harvester?). They were going to have a mercenary market and make contracts based on our performance statistics. Eve players were going to play mercenaries against each other like playing cards. You think you can take my Robotics Factory? I'll hire kazukia sniper to defend it, even though his rates are sky high. Scotty was never supposed to do the matchmaking, it was supposed to be the Eve "Spreadsheet Junkies" who arranged marches. Now our matches are based on our previous match performance. If you have an amazing game, the matches just get harder and harder until you're only playing vs mad-skills Asians. If you have a bad round, you're rewarded with an easy round full of wholesale n00b slaughter...which really isn't that great either when you realize STD weapons are overkill vs MLT. Without any reasonable expectation of long-term benefits from stats (Eve connection), and the certainty of escalating difficulty, and my extensive collection of BPOs, I just play for the minute by minute experience of FPS action with 0 ISK costs. I'm mostly saving ISK for the day I can buy collectable BPOs. The matches have gotten better lately, my ISK efficiency is better, I've had more fun, and my K/D has steadily declined. There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]

TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 1151	Posted - 2015.05.09 14:23:00 - [11] - Quote Genral69 death wrote: In my recent months playing I've noticed that a large majority don't care about THEIR KD at all but why? I can understand logis, THEY'RE relying on someone else as they are weak (meaning less hp as assault and heavys). This game is mainly about performance getting your sp up as fast as you can, to acquire better items (which is great) but however not many care about kd and I like to know why . I get that most people including myself weren't great when we first started this game but surly you've improved over time playing I enjoy it when my KD goes up, its shows that I'm slowing improving . Went from 1.89 to 2.08 in maybe a month =ƒÿÅ Please leave Postive feedback why you think it doesn't matter to most people FTFY. I could not stand the error.
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 3903	Posted - 2015.05.09 14:26:00 - [12] - Quote Funny how TF2 (also a very team oriented game) does not show kd on the leaderboards, only points scored (aka WP) Because KD is a selfish stat, that's why. Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons First to PM me with common name wins (no Hyansaru, u win too much ;P)
DAAAA BEAST Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 1656	Posted - 2015.05.09 14:31:00 - [13] - Quote Because KD won't change at all my experience. I know some nova knifers that love to go flawless and only pick on the noob targets. They go like 3/0 , hiding all match. I go 20 / 6 and I'm having a blast. Even 6/20 , I'm still having a blast. Why the f* would KD matter ? Looking for a tax-free , friendly and active corp ?** Join Corrosive Synergy !
Summa Militum TotalAscendancy 424	Posted - 2015.05.09 14:32:00 - [14] - Quote Raz Sidona wrote: It's partly cause warpoints are more important. They determine your sp rewards, idk rewards, and your position on the leaderboard after battles. Why worry about kd? Worry about warpoints to You are looking at the KDR stat the wrong way and I think that is why you don't see the importance. A person's KDR at the end of any particular match does not matter, it's your overall KDR that matters. People who care about their KDR on a match-by-match basis are going about reading that stat wrong. WarPoints on the other hand is something that you would measure on a match-by-match basis.
Powerh8er The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 765	Posted - 2015.05.09 14:34:00 - [15] - Quote What realm am I in? Whos time of man is I upon my gaze unto? Have you got anymore exploding carrots?
Foo Fighting Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 295	Posted - 2015.05.09 14:41:00 - [16] - Quote The amount people "say" they care is inversely proportional to their KDR. People do actually care. But it doesn't actually matter. For me it's my own measure of personal progress as my playstyle is roughly a constant but I can draw no conclusions comparing it with others.
Genral69 death Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 237	Posted - 2015.05.09 14:43:00 - [17] - Quote DAAAA BEAST wrote: Because KD won't change at all my experience. I know some nova knifers that love to go flawless and only pick on the noob targets. They go like 3/0 , hiding all match. I go 20 / 6 and I'm having a blast. Even 6/20 , I'm still having a blast. Why the f*** would KD matter ? KD is competitive between friends. No it may not help on the battlefield its self but it will make me think twice before I rush several enemy's. As for nova knifes I couldn't care less about them as long as there not all up in my face General limited: warming failure to pay, may lead to death,massive amount of pain or even lose of family. Since 1995
Genral69 death Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 237	Posted - 2015.05.09 14:45:00 - [18] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: Genral69 death wrote: In my recent months playing I've noticed that a large majority don't care about THEIR KD at all but why? I can understand logis, THEY'RE relying on someone else as they are weak (meaning less hp as assault and heavys). This game is mainly about performance getting your sp up as fast as you can, to acquire better items (which is great) but however not many care about kd and I like to know why . I get that most people including myself weren't great when we first started this game but surly you've improved over time playing I enjoy it when my KD goes up, its shows that I'm slowing improving . Went from 1.89 to 2.08 in maybe a month =ƒÿÅ Please leave Postive feedback why you think it doesn't matter to most people FTFY. I could not stand the error. Fast typing, small phone and my awful spelling leads to mistakes. No ones perfect =ƒæî General limited: warming failure to pay, may lead to death,massive amount of pain or even lose of family. Since 1995
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 8483	Posted - 2015.05.09 14:51:00 - [19] - Quote Foo Fighting wrote: The amount people "say" they care is inversely proportional to their KDR. People do actually care. But it doesn't actually matter. The only people who care about K/D are people who. Take themselves seriously and think an arbitrary stat in a video game matters. My positive win/loss ratio means more to me than KD both when I was running solidly positive and after I let my KD flush itself. I like winning. I will do whatever it takes to push the enemies' collective sht in. If this means sacrificing my KD to do so? So be it. There's never enough sh*posting going on, so let's add a few more teaspoons of the guy posting after me to the recipie!
JJ'S Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 120	Posted - 2015.05.09 15:02:00 - [20] - Quote Genral69 death wrote: In my recent months playing I've noticed that a large majority don't care about there KD at all but why? I can understand logis, there relying on someone else as they are weak (meaning less hp as assault and heavys). This game is mainly about performance getting your sp up as fast as you can, to acquire better items (which is great) but however not many care about kd and I like to know why . I get that most people including myself weren't great when we first started this game but surly you've improved over time playing I enjoy it when my KD goes up, its shows that I'm slowing improving . Went from 1.89 to 2.08 in maybe a month =ƒÿÅ Please leave Postive feedback why you think it doesn't matter to most people I think most bitter casuals that play 4-5 hours a week hate the concept of K/D. Because largely it is a number that makes them feel inadequate and marginalized. Stopping them from being able to join certain corporations or participate in certain past events because of the lack of efficiency in competitive matches. So instead these players do the classic Helicopter parenting mindset and go for "Participation points".. Aka war-points. So they get a ribbon that tells everyone they participated then mock the people who get 1st, 2nd and 3rd. calling them try-hards and proto stompers. The rest of the player base that is ultra competitive, See's K/D as a number that can be constantly improved and representative at how efficient they are in the New Eden galaxy at removing threats before they go down, Some at 6-8 K/D while spending a majority of their DUST career in PC in ultra competitive circumstances with full proto type on the field. It's the mindset that CCP has coddled in this game and largely created. DUST 514 started with hardcore FPS players, PLayers that where tired of BF3 and CoD and saw EVE online's hardcore nature, Players that where watching MAG die and looking for another home, Extremely talented fps players from Soccom... The hardcore players from EVE online, largely mainly PC fps players. And we had an ultra competitive dynamic player base.. What alot of Developers dream of. Where there was 100 good corporation options to join with amazing talented FPS players teaching and bringing players up... CCP has spent 3 years dumbing DUST down while removing as many items from the game as they have added. This game has largely just spun it's wheels in the mud for 3 years while trying to chase a casual player in the bush while alienating their hardcore FPS player base. Now CCP is left with maybe 200 veterans from beta.. And 20-30k completely new cycled in population. Killing someone now happens in 1-2 seconds, you forget their name 2-5 seconds later and it means nothing.... Opposed to DUST without Aim assist, where duels where edge of your seat, Every muscle in your body tensed.. every bit of skill you have been practicing put to the test.... Then afterwards mutual respect between the players after doing this dance for a match. They tore the heart out of DUST 514 to try and grab a few CoD players. It's sad.. but it shows exactly what CCP Shanghai is

Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 7370	Posted - 2015.05.09 15:04:00 - [21] - Quote There are other ways of getting better rewards than just killing. I prefer being a Ghost Hacker rather than a murderous maniac.
Foo Fighting Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 297	Posted - 2015.05.09 15:12:00 - [22] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Foo Fighting wrote: The amount people "say" they care is inversely proportional to their KDR. People do actually care. But it doesn't actually matter. The only people who care about K/D are people who. Take themselves seriously and think an arbitrary stat in a video game matters. My positive win/loss ratio means more to me than KD both when I was running solidly positive and after I let my KD flush itself. I like winning. I will do whatever it takes to push the enemies' collective sh*t in. If this means sacrificing my KD to do so? So be it. I agree and have a similar philosophy in game. The point I was making is that it's useful/important to ones self and not a useful metric in comparing with others. My w/l ratio does not mean a lot to me as I play solo a lot and have little control over who else is in my matches and will frequently get dumped into matches that are already lost but I play through for the experience and eom salvage. KDR is a much easier stat to manipulate than w/l for those who are that way inclined.
Genral69 death Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 237	Posted - 2015.05.09 15:18:00 - [23] - Quote Foo Fighting wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Foo Fighting wrote: The amount people "say" they care is inversely proportional to their KDR. People do actually care. But it doesn't actually matter. The only people who care about K/D are people who. Take themselves seriously and think an arbitrary stat in a video game matters. My positive win/loss ratio means more to me than KD both when I was running solidly positive and after I let my KD flush itself. I like winning. I will do whatever it takes to push the enemies' collective sh*t in. If this means sacrificing my KD to do so? So be it. I agree and have a similar philosophy in game. The point I was making is that it's useful/important to ones self and not a useful metric in comparing with others. My w/l ratio does not mean a lot to me as I play solo a lot and have little control over who else is in my matches and will frequently get dumped into matches that are already lost but I play through for the experience and eom salvage. KDR is a much easier stat to manipulate than w/l for those who are that way inclined. I agree but not with the whole manipulating kd/r . It is much easier to get your KD up due to its relying on you but however wl/r is relying on your whole team. Not just 1 person General limited: warming failure to pay, may lead to death,massive amount of pain or even lose of family. Since 1995
Foo Fighting Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 297	Posted - 2015.05.09 15:34:00 - [24] - Quote Genral69 death wrote: Foo Fighting wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Foo Fighting wrote: The amount people "say" they care is inversely proportional to their KDR. People do actually care. But it doesn't actually matter. The only people who care about K/D are people who. Take themselves seriously and think an arbitrary stat in a video game matters. My positive win/loss ratio means more to me than KD both when I was running solidly positive and after I let my KD flush itself. I like winning. I will do whatever it takes to push the enemies' collective sh*t in. If this means sacrificing my KD to do so? So be it. I agree and have a similar philosophy in game. The point I was making is that it's useful/important to ones self and not a useful metric in comparing with others. My w/l ratio does not mean a lot to me as I play solo a lot and have little control over who else is in my matches and will frequently get dumped into matches that are already lost but I play through for the experience and eom salvage. KDR is a much easier stat to manipulate than w/l for those who are that way inclined. I agree but not with the whole manipulating kd/r . It is much easier to get your KD up due to its relying on you but however wl/r is relying on your whole team. Not just 1 person You agree entirely - you may just need to read it again
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 8488	Posted - 2015.05.09 15:38:00 - [25] - Quote I run solo almost exclusively. Even when I'm losing, and alone, I'm going to kill as many proto stompers as I can. Most of what KDR involves is mindset. If your headspace has the rule of KD is most important how will you react when I come waddling up behind you in a quafe suit and shoot you in the back of the head, lowering your K/D? what happens if during the process of you coming to attack me in the place I am entrenched and I instablap you with a forge gun? Do you grit your teeth and soldier on, chalking it up as a setback? Or do you get mad, cuss yell about how it's unfair and generally get buttmad? Guess which one I'd rather listen to in comms. I've had people ditch my squad because a tank I happened to be in the process of exterminating happened to kill them. They were mad that I was apparently unable to "do my job" when I was charging my third shot, and the meta at the time required 5. K/D whoring engenders a lot of utterly contemptible behavior, and I refuse to be that guy who flings his controller and shrilly screams like an angry 5 year old when a proto fit gets vaped. And god help you if you scream in my ear because you got your ass killed. I will wound your inner child right before I TK you nonstop until match ends or you leave. That's why KDR has no value to me, more than any other factor. There's never enough sh**posting going on, so let's add a few more teaspoons of the guy posting after me to the recipie!
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 16500	Posted - 2015.05.09 15:47:00 - [26] - Quote I long gave up on K/DR when I stopped playing regularly. Every time I get back I need a decent time to adjust, and by the time I do adjust I go on a DUSTcation again. This adjustment time just KILLS my K/DR like you wouldn't believe. "Breakin, PS3's and PS4's can't mate. They're incompatible. Unlike Apache's and Cappuccino machines." - *Cat wisdom*
LOL KILLZ LulKlz 59	Posted - 2015.05.09 17:23:00 - [27] - Quote IDGAFF, I'll rush a full squad of Protos countless times over and over again. By myself, why? For the lulz. Nothing brings me more pleasure than annoying the living S* out of people that care too much about a game. Kill me 20-30-40 times, doesn't matter.... OOOOO CAN I HAZ A SUIT THAT BLOWNS UP ON MY OPPONENTS!!!!! Kamikaze style?just to show how many f** I give about KD CEO of LulKlz/ chat channel LulKlz, code 0000 <--- numbers
Knightshade Belladonna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 1478	Posted - 2015.05.09 18:49:00 - [28] - Quote KD is crap , I prefer isk efficiency. That is how I have always been n Eve Online as well... I might have lost a bunch of ships, but I made a lot more wallets emptier than mine in the process. Too bad on here you can't keep track of stats like that , you only get the observation of knowing you just killed a few proto users while dying several times in a standard cheap fit. My eve stats are something like 8 billion isk lost since 2006.... with oh, around 600 billion destoryed with no supers/titans in them stats
Eruditus 920 Nemo Malus Felix 1822	Posted - 2015.05.09 19:16:00 - [29] - Quote It seems the players who have a good K/DR care the most about it, but it's a circle because if it matters to you, you probably play with a style that protects it. There's nothing wrong with wanting a good one, or striving to get better, but I like to play aggressively and not worry about it. My goal in DUST is to have fun. Worrying about a stat isn't on my priority list. The real question is: Do I ever actually have fun? "Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 19526	Posted - 2015.05.09 20:06:00 - [30] - Quote I laugh in the fact of 12 to 1 odds as their suits glistens in gil mine glistens in quafe my mind wanders to the paycheck payout ill be getting. CPM 1, Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= ADV HAVs =// Unlocked



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