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Operative 1174 Uuali
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.05.09 20:55:00 -
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My p*nis is an adequate length, I have a real girl, I do not shy away from reality, I periodically leave my house.
Therefore, this kdr thing means nothing to me. I do not need an epeen.
Death is a serious businessGǪ So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
8510
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Posted - 2015.05.09 21:02:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:I have a real girl,
And you cannot stick an epeen into this real girl, nor would I think she would be impressed by it.
Well said.
There's never enough sh**posting going on, so let's add a few more teaspoons of the guy posting after me to the recipie!
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
0uter.Heaven
Back and Forth
3556
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Posted - 2015.05.09 21:55:00 -
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I like to get a good K/D, but there are other things that are more important. W/L, for example, is much more important than K/D to me. If you're doing your job right, your K/D doesn't matter - especially in PC.
K/D is also a very dodgy stat. It can be easily inflated by camping or sniping, and it can be unfairly brought down by lag or glitches.
To summarise, K/D is not a reliable stat to gauge a player's skill.
That being said, I still get really annoyed if I go negative. 
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Talos Vagheitan
Ancient Exiles.
1223
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Posted - 2015.05.09 22:50:00 -
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It's all personal preference.
What do you care about? Being a deadly slayer and getting tons of kills? Then sure, KD will probably be important to you.
I like to win games (as long as they're not completely one-sided), so for me as long as the team wins I don't care at all about a KD.
Who cares what some sniper has to say.
**--CCP, let's push for the license of Dust/Legion on both current Gen consoles-
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clown babee
All Up In Your Butt
2
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Posted - 2015.05.09 22:57:00 -
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As a fairly new player I must admit that I get excited when I see a positive KDR after a match ( I guess I mean over 1 as positive). However I don't care at all when I have a lower one. When I see 7 kills 5 assists and 13 deaths (which is pretty consistent) I feel satisfied. I also usually end with 1k warpoints minimum and a nice isk and sp payout so that helps a lot.
I guess my point is that I would love to increase my kdr but the way i play, which is either logi or complete madman assault rush, I don't think i'll ever get to 1 and if i do it won't get much higher.
but like a lot of others said - i have a great time when i play. i play a lot of solo and i die a lot more then but i still usually do well and when i have a team i do better but still die a lot. I think, though, i usually make A LOT more isk then i spend. |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
18876
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Posted - 2015.05.09 23:05:00 -
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Short answer to the long question is that personally I value winning over personally doing well (in a competitive match) so I can and am willing to throw myself time and time again at something if it secures the win.
Outside of those competitive matches I don't care enough to bother with preservation of KD or farming for KD.
"MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!"
- Mobius Wyvern
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
1198
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Posted - 2015.05.09 23:05:00 -
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Foo Fighting wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Foo Fighting wrote:The amount people "say" they care is inversely proportional to their KDR.
People do actually care.
But it doesn't actually matter.
The only people who care about K/D are people who. Take themselves seriously and think an arbitrary stat in a video game matters. My positive win/loss ratio means more to me than KD both when I was running solidly positive and after I let my KD flush itself. I like winning. I will do whatever it takes to push the enemies' collective sh*t in. If this means sacrificing my KD to do so? So be it. I agree and have a similar philosophy in game. The point I was making is that it's useful/important to ones self and not a useful metric in comparing with others. My w/l ratio does not mean a lot to me as I play solo a lot and have little control over who else is in my matches and will frequently get dumped into matches that are already lost but I play through for the experience and eom salvage. KDR is a much easier stat to manipulate than w/l for those who are that way inclined.
Rubbish. Join squad, proto stomp nubs manipulate w/l pretty much same as how to get kd and wp up. |
Megaman Trigger
Ready to Play
320
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Posted - 2015.05.09 23:06:00 -
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The overall result and supporting the team is more important to me than my K/D
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
4660
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Posted - 2015.05.09 23:24:00 -
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Genral69 death wrote:In my recent months playing I've noticed that a large majority don't care about there KD at all but why? I can understand logis, there relying on someone else as they are weak (meaning less hp as assault and heavys). This game is mainly about performance getting your sp up as fast as you can, to acquire better items (which is great) but however not many care about kd and I like to know why .
I get that most people including myself weren't great when we first started this game but surly you've improved over time playing
I enjoy it when my KD goes up, its shows that I'm slowing improving . Went from 1.89 to 2.08 in maybe a month =ƒÿÅ
Please leave Postive feedback why you think it doesn't matter to most people
Working towards improving within the game is fun and rewarding no doubt 
That being said KDR isn't the clearest metric for tracking personal improvement within Dust, and it's even less valuable for tracking comparative skill/team contribution.
- ISK destroyed vs ISK lost per death.
- War Points earned per death.
- Revives and total HP repaired per death.
- Vehicle damage points/destruction's per death.
- Hacks per death.
- Objective counter hacks per death.
- W/L ratio.
All of these are more useful direct indicators than simple KDR, sadly most of them are not directly tracked and presented to the player and KD in the right contexts can imply a certain degree of these in a very rough way.
Then there's the question of "death" as recorded by KDR. Every time a merc drops to the downed status KDR records it as a "death" thus encouraging some players to sacrifice good tactics (getting picked up) in favor of good stats (higher KDR).
Now not every pick up is created equally and there are times when even outright suicide holds the best tactical value, but on balance a team is helped towards the win by its players taking a risky revive as opposed to 'zerging' to respawn. Yet the current accounting system for KDR punishes that valuable tactical risk with a higher potential stat loss and players respond accordingly.
And all of that is without even touching on active stat padding, or instilling highly risk averse activities into players.
(A player can get a very high KDR in a match, and repeat this as a match to match average, while engaging in behaviors that contribute minimally to either keeping your teammates alive and active or securing the match victory.)
Leaving the questions of good tactics and specific metric reporting aside there's the "boredom factor" also distorts the value KD can hold as a stat for many players. If you become more reckless, in any of a vast array of possible ways, when there isn't a lot happening in a match, you become more likely to die as a result of hostile action or your own and that of course impacts your KD. If you have semi-frequent matches that devolve into a less than active state you're KD is then reflecting not your personal talent curve so much as your personal response to matchmaking et al.
So while striving to be a positive factor in winning the match, and trying to minimize clone loss for your team, is totally worth while. And tracking your stats for self-improvement can be useful and fun.
There are many reasons why KDR in Dust 514 isn't a highly viable or useful stat most of the time.
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Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
1482
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Posted - 2015.05.10 00:21:00 -
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when you see a guy , as example, named McLovin619 go 17-0 with 0 wp in an ambush when his buds are on opposing side..and then go 10-4 when he on their side... you realize kdr is a joke |
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Albyat Tyre
Glitched Connection
125
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Posted - 2015.05.10 00:23:00 -
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I worked my kdr up to 1.34 but I wasn't having fun. So then, I said f*** it . Spent one entire dom match in free suit suicide leap from mcc. Had a blast. Died 32 times before match was over. Kdr down to 1.18 and I'm having fun again. Didn't care who i pissed off but it was fun watching the mass exedus from the match. My wife says I'm an a $$hole. What do you think. Do I care . NOT.
To live as one shall live, I prefer killing red dots.
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LOL KILLZ
LulKlz
64
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Posted - 2015.05.10 00:28:00 -
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Albyat Tyre wrote:I worked my kdr up to 1.34 but I wasn't having fun. So then, I said f*** it . Spent one entire dom match in free suit suicide leap from mcc. Had a blast. Died 32 times before match was over. Kdr down to 1.18 and I'm having fun again. Didn't care who i pissed off but it was fun watching the mass exedus from the match. My wife says I'm an a $$hole. What do you think. Do I care . NOT.
You sir inspire me.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
8532
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Posted - 2015.05.10 00:57:00 -
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Albyat Tyre wrote:I worked my kdr up to 1.34 but I wasn't having fun. So then, I said f*** it . Spent one entire dom match in free suit suicide leap from mcc. Had a blast. Died 32 times before match was over. Kdr down to 1.18 and I'm having fun again. Didn't care who i pissed off but it was fun watching the mass exedus from the match. My wife says I'm an a $$hole. What do you think. Do I care . NOT.
You, my boy, have a bright future in AWOXING Planetary conquest.
There's never enough sh**posting going on, so let's add a few more teaspoons of the guy posting after me to the recipie!
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Lynn Beck
Delta Vanguard 6
2421
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Posted - 2015.05.10 01:01:00 -
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Albyat Tyre wrote:I worked my kdr up to 1.34 but I wasn't having fun. So then, I said f*** it . Spent one entire dom match in free suit suicide leap from mcc. Had a blast. Died 32 times before match was over. Kdr down to 1.18 and I'm having fun again. Didn't care who i pissed off but it was fun watching the mass exedus from the match. My wife says I'm an a $$hole. What do you think. Do I care . NOT.
You should get an entire squad into it(on alts of course) and see how quickly you can clone yourselves out.
General John Ripper
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cris bleu
Carbon 7
144
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Posted - 2015.05.10 01:27:00 -
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One of the things I like about Dust is there are different ways to "win", eg win the match, earn a high KDR or a bunch of ISK or (for me) SP advancement. I dunno if any necessarily mean you're good at the game, I think anyone can legitimately set their own personal goal and that's great if it means they have fun.
Personally, I don't care much about KDR (logi), but I can't deny a small feeling of satisfaction when it eventually crept above 1.00 after a year of play. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
8538
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Posted - 2015.05.10 01:31:00 -
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Are you enjoying playing? If yes move to second question.
Do the people you play with (like squads) enjoy your company? If yes, move to next section
CONGRATULATIONS! You're good at DUST 514.
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Eros Adonai
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
290
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Posted - 2015.05.10 01:44:00 -
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Genral69 death wrote:In my recent months playing I've noticed that a large majority don't care about there KD at all but why? I can understand logis, there relying on someone else as they are weak (meaning less hp as assault and heavys). This game is mainly about performance getting your sp up as fast as you can, to acquire better items (which is great) but however not many care about kd and I like to know why .
I get that most people including myself weren't great when we first started this game but surly you've improved over time playing
I enjoy it when my KD goes up, its shows that I'm slowing improving . Went from 1.89 to 2.08 in maybe a month =ƒÿÅ
Please leave Postive feedback why you think it doesn't matter to most people
Worrying about KD doesn't make a good player, or win matches...Also, a lot of people play video games for the sake of having fun. Many people with high KD's have taken all the fun out of this game for themselves by obsessing over numbers that nobody else gives a sh**t about. I've seen too many supposed 'elite' players leave potentialy fantastic matches, when faced with stiff competition, for fear of having their precious numbers dented. In short, I don't care because I'm not that kind of crazy
Director - Corrosive Synergy
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1357
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Posted - 2015.05.10 01:44:00 -
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Cuz in games like Dust kd has no meaning.
It has no meaning because of how easy it is to get high kd with little effort.
KD matters in games where you win rounds by killing.
By killing players on your level.
Caldari Loyalist
thecreaturehub fan
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Balts Xryiel
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2015.05.10 01:47:00 -
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Genral69 death wrote:At least it sounds like you had a goal . 1kill for 1 death. Taking one of those damn red berry's with you =ƒÿä
That feel when you die and manage to take down a red berry with you.....it feels GOOD
-One does not just RE a Heavy-
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castba
Rogue Instincts
New Eden's Heros
875
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Posted - 2015.05.10 01:57:00 -
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K/D shouldn't even be recorded in Dust.
Battles would be more chaotic (especially with BPO fits) since ISK would be the major drawback for dying - as it should be for this game.
Also when the most effective player in a skirmish can be one that doesn't even get a kill (cloaked speed hacker) or the clone-saving Logi in Ambush or even the tank/DS scaring or destroying dedicated AVer, perhaps a better question should be why should K/D matter?
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The Lion ElJonson
1st Legion The Dark Angels
Learning Alliance
198
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Posted - 2015.05.10 13:30:00 -
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i joined a veteran corp, first thing they asked was 'whats your k/d?' i laughed and quit the corp. Silly noobs
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Eros Adonai
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
290
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Posted - 2015.05.10 13:51:00 -
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The Lion ElJonson wrote:i joined a veteran corp, first thing they asked was 'whats your k/d?' i laughed and quit the corp. Silly noobs
Respect o7
Director - Corrosive Synergy
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The KTM DuKe
Dead Man's Game
194
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Posted - 2015.05.10 13:58:00 -
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Kd whores are those that make this game unbalanceble as they ruin every matchmaking logic
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Edau Skir2
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
1191
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Posted - 2015.05.10 14:13:00 -
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The KTM DuKe wrote:Kd whores are those that make this game unbalanceble as they ruin every matchmaking logic
Ha, says the guy who was Thaling earlier today.
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Michael Epic
Horizons' Edge
No Context
863
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Posted - 2015.05.10 15:07:00 -
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Please look here
What does this get me? I'll worry about KDR when it gets me something. When I get bpo's or officer weapons for maintaining a bad ass KDR then I'll worry about it. Until then, I just wanna have fun with my corp mates and play my favorite game Dust 514
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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN
New Eden's Heros
2187
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Posted - 2015.05.10 15:11:00 -
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Genral69 death wrote:In my recent months playing I've noticed that a large majority don't care about there KD at all but why? I can understand logis, there relying on someone else as they are weak (meaning less hp as assault and heavys). This game is mainly about performance getting your sp up as fast as you can, to acquire better items (which is great) but however not many care about kd and I like to know why .
I get that most people including myself weren't great when we first started this game but surly you've improved over time playing
I enjoy it when my KD goes up, its shows that I'm slowing improving . Went from 1.89 to 2.08 in maybe a month =ƒÿÅ
Please leave Postive feedback why you think it doesn't matter to most people
I got a K/D of like 2.4. Could be higher but I don't give a damn. I only care about net gains of ISK. I rarely ever run proto and I enjoy jilhading tanks and running suicide clear out the objective fits.
"Skill for thee but no skill for me" so is the saying of the swarm infantry.
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soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
1301
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Posted - 2015.05.10 15:18:00 -
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Genral69 death wrote:In my recent months playing I've noticed that a large majority don't care about there KD at all but why? I can understand logis, there relying on someone else as they are weak (meaning less hp as assault and heavys). This game is mainly about performance getting your sp up as fast as you can, to acquire better items (which is great) but however not many care about kd and I like to know why .
I get that most people including myself weren't great when we first started this game but surly you've improved over time playing
I enjoy it when my KD goes up, its shows that I'm slowing improving . Went from 1.89 to 2.08 in maybe a month =ƒÿÅ
Please leave Postive feedback why you think it doesn't matter to most people
Dust is a game on life support, at this point most folks just no longer care about their kd as a result.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
11616
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Posted - 2015.05.10 15:49:00 -
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Mainly because of my play style. I'm not a logi but I am technically a slayer in some form. I'm a dedicated ninja knifer running around in a flimsy Minmatar scout suit. So my KDR suffers greatly especially when I have difficulty trying to catch someone by surprise. I learned to get use to it because what matters to me more right now is how I got my kill. It's not often you get to kill a tank with a pair of knives.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
11616
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Posted - 2015.05.10 15:50:00 -
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soulreaper73 wrote:Genral69 death wrote:In my recent months playing I've noticed that a large majority don't care about there KD at all but why? I can understand logis, there relying on someone else as they are weak (meaning less hp as assault and heavys). This game is mainly about performance getting your sp up as fast as you can, to acquire better items (which is great) but however not many care about kd and I like to know why .
I get that most people including myself weren't great when we first started this game but surly you've improved over time playing
I enjoy it when my KD goes up, its shows that I'm slowing improving . Went from 1.89 to 2.08 in maybe a month =ƒÿÅ
Please leave Postive feedback why you think it doesn't matter to most people Dust is a game on life support, at this point most folks just no longer care about their kd as a result.
Actually, I stopped caring about my KDR long before Dust even came out of beta.
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Green Living
Gallente Gay Swag Club
1520
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Posted - 2015.05.10 16:19:00 -
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I play FPS solely for the K/D ratio stat. I enjoy killing while not being killed. It's just how I get my kicks. |
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